When Walt visited Hurley at santa rosa, he told hurley that "bentham" told him about the lie. there was something else as well. wonder how he knew that if locke didn't tell him tonight.

oh yeah, forgot about that

pretty strange they would leave that out

Locke didn't mention anything to Walt about his fake name in that encounter, nor "the lie"

did they meet again and it just wasn't showed?
that's a pretty big goof otherwise...

oh yeah, forgot about that

pretty strange they would leave that out

Locke didn't mention anything to Walt about his fake name in that encounter, nor "the lie"

did they meet again and it just wasn't showed?
that's a pretty big goof otherwise...

TPTB know their fans are rabid. They haven't goofed before. There's something significant in this.

They also failed to tell Walt that his father is most likely dead after the freighter blew up... Locke definatly knew about it,,, didnt have the guts to tell him... This leads me to believe that we are definatly not done with Walt,,, He will find out about his father and exact revenge on either Ben, Widmore, or maybe even Locke.

I agree, Walt will definitly have more to do with the story. Maybe a dead Locke visits Walt, or Walt told John he had been having dreams about him. Maybe he has a dream about John, and thats when he tells him.

I'm guessing it was a mistake... it would have been easy to add one more line about how Walt can't mention their meeting to anyone and he's going by a different name now. I really liked the scene, though. Very poignant. I want Walt back on the show!

TPTB know their fans are rabid. They haven't goofed before.

Yes, "TeePeeTeeBee" have goofed before. Multiple times.

Just take Sawyer knowing that Rousseau said the Others were "coming for the kid" in "Adrift", even though he had left the island on the raft before Rousseau said that to Sayid.

They also failed to tell Walt that his father is most likely dead after the freighter blew up... Locke definatly knew about it,,,
You sure Locke knew about it? He was in the room when Ben killed Keamy, setting off the bomb on the boat. He assumed at that point everyone on the boat, including the people on the chopper who went there, were dead.

But afterwards Alpert told Locke that the people on the chopper were alive and off the island and he had to go see them.

The only way I see that he could know if Michael was dead, is if Jin told him, but we didn't see that.

I'm thinking that what we saw was Locke's version of the conversations. You know what they say - there are always 3 sides to every story. Maybe we'll see what else transpired during the conversations in the Losties flashbacks. Of course, that would be really confusing. It just felt like there was stuff left out. But what's new? Here's hoping we'll be filled in later!

Locke also said something about C4 on the boat, which immediately struck me as strange. I haven't been back to check, but I have no recollection of him ever being told that (unless it happened when they were down in the Orchid).

Locke also said something about C4 on the boat, which immediately struck me as strange. I haven't been back to check, but I have no recollection of him ever being told that (unless it happened when they were down in the Orchid).
When Keamy explains his "dead man's trigger" thing to Ben & Locke, he does mention the "500 pounds of C4" that he's got rigged to the boat.

They also failed to tell Walt that his father is most likely dead after the freighter blew up... Locke definatly knew about it,,, didnt have the guts to tell him...

Sure? The same was thought about Jin. Then Locke found Jin to be alive, so I think he just cosidered the the same might apply to Michael.

we are forgetting that Walt can SEE things. he was having dream about Locke. We do not know what else he had visons/premonitions about.

As far as "the lie" Walt may have seen newspaper/TV stories about the O6....when they stated NO ONE ELSE SURVIVED, he of all people would immediately know THAT was a lie!

Regarding Michael being dead....I don't think John knew that one way or another. He told Walt the truth on that

Yes, "TeePeeTeeBee" have goofed before. Multiple times.

Just take Sawyer knowing that Rousseau said the Others were "coming for the kid" in "Adrift", even though he had left the island on the raft before Rousseau said that to Sayid.

Not that you hold a grudge or anything. :biggrin:

Yeah, there was a lot of information left out in the Walt-Locke exchange, based on what Walt told Hurley at Santa Rosa. It was good to see Walt again though... I sure wanted him to ask about Vincent! :grin:

Hmm, I was thinking about a different lie.

When Locke says, "As far as I know, your father is on a freighter near the Island.", Walt gives him a sort of knowing look and a little nod, as if to say "Ok, fine. Go ahead and lie to me. You're just like the rest of them." From that point in the conversation, Walt doesn't seem that interested anymore. "So why did you come to see me?" sounds like, "If you're just going to lie about everything, then what's the point of talking to me?"

Of course, if this was the intention, they blew it by having him sound so sincere about "doing good." He could have had a bit more sarcasm beneath it, to tell us "Oh, well he's not really doing so good considering his dad left him without a word and now Locke is lying about it"

i felt "gyped" by that conversation. After you escaped from some crazy island, have dreams about it, saved locke from dying in a premonition, you would think that Walt would have some more questions about what is going on there. He kind of dismisses him.

I hope that this isn't their way of writing Walt off, by Locke saying he's been through enough he doesn't need to go back.

It was great seeing Walt again.

Re: the lie - Are we to assume Walt told everyone the truth about what happened to him? If so, nobody believed him and is looking for the island. If not, isn't he lying as well (by omission if nothing else)?

How could they not lie? Who would have believed anything they said? Polar bears, smoke monster, "others", hatches, time traveling bunnies, the island disappearing . . . They would all be in Santa Rosa.

Will this be the last we see of Walt? If so, it's a shame.

I'm not black, but one small thing I don't really like about this show is that almost all of the black characters are being written out of the show... first Eko, then Bea, then Naomi, then Michael, and now Abaddon... and what now seems to be a great likelihood that we won't see walt again. The only continuing black character is apparently Rose.

could it be that walt's visit to hurley was actually in hurley's head? we know hurley has had other imagined visitors. this would explain the inconsistancies as well as walt's age difference since he was younger when he appeared to hurley than he was when he met locke.

hurley was conflicted about "the lie" so perhaps this visit, where walt questioned the lie, was hurley's sub-concious. just like the visits from charlie occured as a result of guilt over those they'd left behind.

I was disappointed with the Walt portion of the episode. I understand why Locke wouldn't ask Walt back, but I agreed with Abbaddon that Locke was supposed to get EVERYONE to come back.

As for the lie, I figured Walt either inferred it from the fact that Locke was off island, and the O6 hadn't said anything, or Walt was trying to trick Hurley into revealing something about Michael.

I hope they bring Walt back. I love the special bond he has with Locke.

Locke knows all ! lol.
I think Dead Locke visited people such as Walt much like Christian Shephard is.

Just take Sawyer knowing that Rousseau said the Others were "coming for the kid" in "Adrift", even though he had left the island on the raft before Rousseau said that to Sayid.

That's an example of Sawyer's incredible inductive powers. Sawyer "knew" that the Others had at least appeared to want Aaron before, when they captured Claire. It's not a big stretch.

People are not empty buckets into which information is poured. We jump to conclusions all the time. This is what Sawyer did in this case, I think.

Unless they admitted that they goofed on the writing.

I hope they bring Walt back. I love the special bond he has with Locke.

Island management is cyclical with the generations. Walt will replace Locke as the leader; they are both very, very special.