... forgive me if somebody has already pointed this out.

The title Man of Science, Man of Faith. Going in I thought (as most might have) that it was referring to Jack and Locke as per their discussion during the season finale.

However, after watching the show I think that it's clear that it was actually just a reference to Jack. While he's a man of science, the episode also dealt with his faith (in something) and how it effects him. His faith in himself, in science, and ultimately in miracles.

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The title certainly referred to both characters. Locke is going to see that the island isn't controlled by some strange force, but rather science.

It seems strange to me that Jack would continue to be a man without faith after witnessing the miracle of Sarah. It appears Christian really drove that aspect out of him.

How about this?

Locke appears to be the clearcut "man of faith" while Jack appears to be clearcut "the man of science." On the island, Jack's faith in science is being tested. He will (and has started to already) have to start taking some things on faith.

On the island, Locke's faith in....well, faith.....is being tested. I, too, think eventually there will be some logical/scientific explanation to what is going on. It'll be interesting to see if Locke and Jack can have some harmonic balance within themselves in regards to faith and science. And, of course, some harmonic balance with each other as well.

Somewhat off-topic: Considering the title and the theme of the show, I'm very surprised Rose was not more prominent.


Witchy (who's glad to be back after a long boring summer) :smile:

... forgive me if somebody has already pointed this out.

The title Man of Science, Man of Faith. Going in I thought (as most might have) that it was referring to Jack and Locke as per their discussion during the season finale.

However, after watching the show I think that it's clear that it was actually just a reference to Jack. While he's a man of science, the episode also dealt with his faith (in something) and how it effects him. His faith in himself, in science, and ultimately in miracles.

Just an observation. Please continue shopping.

Now that you say that, it makes total sense.

I don't think the title refers to Jack or Locke. I think the title refers to Desmond. Think about this. Desmond said that he wanted to be a doctor once. There is a fair bit of science involved in becoming a doctor. What if instead of a Doctor, Desmond decided to focus on the science instead. If he becaome a scinetist, he may have been one of the members of the french woman's research team. As for the faith part, he seems to have faith as he asked Jack if he believed in miracles. Therefore "Man of Science, Man of Faith." I think Desond is going to become quite a predominant character this season.

The title certainly referred to both characters. Locke is going to see that the island isn't controlled by some strange force, but rather science.

It seems strange to me that Jack would continue to be a man without faith after witnessing the miracle of Sarah. It appears Christian really drove that aspect out of him.

Agreed. I've always contended that faith/fate/destiny-based Locke will need to use the science/reason/math/logical approach employed by Jack to accomplish his end game. And similarly, Jack will need to eventually see the proper usage of faith/fate/destiny that Locke deems as the governing force to accomplish his. I believe faith and science will need to be used in synergy.

It would seem that each Jack and Locke are each steeped with the 'opposing force' that each refuses to employ. Jack does indeed have the faith within him to believe in miracles, or of the unexplained, as he witnessed one with Sarah, and the survival of the passengers. Perhaps this was supressed in his battles with his father (whom I recall using the words fate & destiny whilst talking to Jack, and to Sawyer), or in the journey towards traditional medicine, steeped in science.

I'm sure that Locke greatly understands mathematics, deduction, logic and reasoning, given his penchant for militaristic strategy, etc., and perhaps used them frequently in the past. Perhaps he made the faith-based process more prevalent when given back his ability to walk and start anew; would you also not espouse this miracle of faith and continue on such a profound 'religious' journey given the same?

The irony is that each of the two will be challenged, and it appears that Locke's begins now with the computers below.

Now, as to the title referring to Desmond, BlakAdder makes an intersting point as well.

Now, how about Kate? She seems to waver...

I don't think the title refers to Jack or Locke. I think the title refers to Desmond. Think about this. Desmond said that he wanted to be a doctor once. There is a fair bit of science involved in becoming a doctor. What if instead of a Doctor, Desmond decided to focus on the science instead. If he becaome a scinetist, he may have been one of the members of the french woman's research team. As for the faith part, he seems to have faith as he asked Jack if he believed in miracles. Therefore "Man of Science, Man of Faith." I think Desond is going to become quite a predominant character this season.
Oh, I hope so! I am so intrigued by Demsond! And I agree that I believe the title refers to Desmond ... an introduction, so to speak. "And now, Desmond, a man of faith and a man of science!" He seems the perfect middle-man for Locke and Jack. He has managed to blend both together. Maybe they will learn from him. I don't think he's evil. Protective of his "home?" Yes. Leary of those that blew open his hatch and just dropped in? Yes. But I won't be surprised if we see, in the next eppy that he's not that bad.

And remember that Locke said to Jack, about Kate, "She's fine." So, she's not been hurt by Desmond.