First off why would Everybody Hate Hugo? This title has me wondering, has to be another Hurley flashback story but do you think the title reflects how ppl felt about him after he became a millionaire or (more likely IMO) because he is getting more and more paranoid about the numbers and starts talking to more of the castaways about them. That is another reason he was in the psych ward - paranoia!

I'm thinking maybe *hopefully* this will be more of the backstory regarding why he went to the Psych Ward.

Maybe they hate Hugo because they will come to believe that his numbers are cursed, and he is to blame for all things LOST....

I'm thinking maybe *hopefully* this will be more of the backstory regarding why he went to the Psych Ward.

I was wondering about this title, too. I thought everyone loved Hurley! But anyway, this epi should tell us more about how he came to be in a pysch ward. Jorge said The next backstory we see about Hurley, will be when he is in the pysch ward.

I hope its why people hated him in his old life :( I don't want all the Lost characters to hate him.

I recall in an ep from season 1 that Hurley told someone that he was know as great warrior back home ( i dont remeber the exact words). But does anyone think that this may have led to him being commited to a psych ward?

Well the episode title "Everybody hates Hugo" is clearly referring to that sitcom called "Everybody loves Raymond", isn't it? It is the first thing that came to my mind when I read it. It won't have anything to do with that sitcom but it is a nice way to play with the title of that show.

Well the episode title "Everybody hates Hugo" is clearly referring to that sitcom called "Everybody loves Raymond", isn't it? It is the first thing that came to my mind when I read it. It won't have anything to do with that sitcom but it is a nice way to play with the title of that show.

I understand where you are coming from with that idea, but since Raymond was on CBS and Lost is on ABC, I doubt they would do such a direct reference to a competing network. I'm more thinking with what we have seen of Hurley's background so far. He may have suffered from a persecution complex at one point, feeling that everyone hated him or that he was not good enough by the expectations of others. It may have developed into some form of paranoia, which is why he was in the psychiatric hospital.

Well the episode title "Everybody hates Hugo" is clearly referring to that sitcom called "Everybody loves Raymond", isn't it? It is the first thing that came to my mind when I read it. It won't have anything to do with that sitcom but it is a nice way to play with the title of that show.

Or (though it's totally random) it almost shares a name with the show Everybody hates Chris.(I think it's supposed to be on UPN) (Umm, Made by Chris Rock) Although I Think there unrelated. I just kinda thought that was cool.

I understand where you are coming from with that idea, but since Raymond was on CBS and Lost is on ABC, I doubt they would do such a direct reference to a competing network. I'm more thinking with what we have seen of Hurley's background so far. He may have suffered from a persecution complex at one point, feeling that everyone hated him or that he was not good enough by the expectations of others. It may have developed into some form of paranoia, which is why he was in the psychiatric hospital.

You've certainly got a point there of course, I hadn't thought about that. *starts thinking* Then again, since ELR is no longer on air they should be safe to make that title reference, shouldn't they? Anyway, it was just an idea and as I said it was the first thing that came to my mind when I read the title of that ep. I am from Europe so I wouldn't be able to judge on it but I had a feeling since ELR was quite popular for years in the States that the title ELR was kind of iconic, something that most people knew one way or another, a bit like hearing a certain commercial slogan and knowing exactly what product it is for, you know?

I still feel it must be a reference of some sort - because otherwise it would be a pretty stupid ep title to begin with, wouldn't it? :biggrin:

Hi,
According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episodes_of_Lost_%28Season_2%29 everyone hates Hurley because
he struggles with an assigned task inside the hatch.
Poor Hugo!:sadwalk:

Is it just me, or does anyone else find the title interesting in that it's not "Everybody Hates Hurley," but rather "Everybody Hates HUGO?" It seems like no one really knows him as Hugo, so why would they use that particular name in the title?

I recall in an ep from season 1 that Hurley told someone that he was know as great warrior back home ( i dont remeber the exact words). But does anyone think that this may have led to him being commited to a psych ward?

yeah, I recall that too... but can't remember the exact words...

Maybe he was a professional wrestler and played the bad guy ...? :biggrin:

Is it just me, or does anyone else find the title interesting in that it's not "Everybody Hates Hurley," but rather "Everybody Hates HUGO?" It seems like no one really knows him as Hugo, so why would they use that particular name in the title?

Good point.

I am also curious as to how he got the nickname "Hurley." I remember in the episode (I can't remember the name, sorry!) where Hurley is doing the census, he's discussing with Jack the reason why they need to do one. He mentions something about the fact that Hurley isn't his real name, but doesn't want to go into why that's his nickname. Hmmm.

(Maybe he "hurled" a lot or something?? :eek:)

"Everybody Hates Hugo" is clearly a play on "Everybody Loves Raymond". But since it's Hugo and not Hurley it more likely has to do with him before the Island. When he was conducting the interview in "Numbers" he said something about putting his family through a lot lately. So I'd say that it probably has something to do with that.

"Everybody Hates Hugo" is clearly a play on "Everybody Loves Raymond". But since it's Hugo and not Hurley it more likely has to do with him before the Island. When he was conducting the interview in "Numbers" he said something about putting his family through a lot lately. So I'd say that it probably has something to do with that.

Ah, thank you. :) So it wasn't just me who came to that conclusion. As I said on page one it was the first thing that came to mind when I read the title for that episode.

And as you said it would make sense that it is all about Hugo's issues (mostly family issues) back when he was still living a normal life (even before the lottery win). And remember what Hurley said about the "meteor hitting the diner I was working at"? There have been pictures on lost-media that showed the location they used for ELH and that location was indeed a diner. So I guess we will see that meteor crashing down. :biggrin:

I'm rethinking what I originally said and now think maybe this eppy will be more about what happened before or caused Hurley to be in the psych ward. After several ppl questioned the title having Hugo and not Hurley in it.... well, that's what changed my mind. I'm thinking maybe paranoia is what put Hugo in the mental hospital (thinking everyone hated him) and that's where he got the Hurley nickname and possibly a little personality adjustment (which may now be unraveling)

I'm rethinking what I originally said and now think maybe this eppy will be more about what happened before or caused Hurley to be in the psych ward. After several ppl questioned the title having Hugo and not Hurley in it.... well, that's what changed my mind. I'm thinking maybe paranoia is what put Hugo in the mental hospital (thinking everyone hated him) and that's where he got the Hurley nickname and possibly a little personality adjustment (which may now be unraveling)

Good thinking! That would make also sense as far as the title is concerned as that certainly works well with a little paranoia. *g* It could also mean that Hugo is actually saying this about himself in a way talking about himself in third person and saying "Everybody hates Hugo".

In my honest opinion I believe (and this is just speculation) Hugo is playing to fool to everybody and he know much more than he's letting on. Hugo is the second guy in the Hatch.

He caused the Crash, He took stock of who survived on the island, and he was really in Australlia to check out Walt. The Islands only savior. Hurley is too much of a patsy not to know what's really going on....

At least that's what I think...

David A Dein

To me, Hurley was in Australia on his quest for the numbers... which scare him btw

Also, not sure we shall see the meteor thing, caus' it's happening AFTER Hurley used the numbers and the ep will probably show why/how Hurley went to the mental hospital ...

but it would be coool anyway...

What is really promising is that we get a chance to meet Lenny again :)

Also, not sure we shall see the meteor thing, caus' it's happening AFTER Hurley used the numbers and the ep will probably show why/how Hurley went to the mental hospital ...

Good catch! I didn't even think of that...:)

interesting, very interesting....remember Exodus2 when hurley gets on the plane he looks at will like it will be okay.... i made it... giving him (will) the thumbs up.
skybluelost

To me, Hurley was in Australia on his quest for the numbers... which scare him btw

Also, not sure we shall see the meteor thing, caus' it's happening AFTER Hurley used the numbers and the ep will probably show why/how Hurley went to the mental hospital ...


Gaaaah... you are right, of course, I hadn't thought of that. So we should be able to see him working in that diner but we won't see it being hit by that meteor. What a shame though... :biggrin: It would have been such a... Hurley moment! Very much like the "you've got some... Arzt on you" scene. Oh well, maybe we will have another Hurley-centric ep as the season goes along.

Don't forget, people, that Hurley was in the psych ward before he heard and played the numbers. We don't know why he was in the psych ward, but the numbers had nothing to do with why he was there... (unless Leondard knew that Hurley was 'the chosen one' and somehow drew him to the hospital with the numbers! lol.) So Hurley does something to get locked up in the mental hospital, meets Lenny, hears the numbers, gets out and plays them in the lotto, and life goes to hell.

Hell, I"m all for more Hurley flashbacks. Did I read that Jorge Garcia actually posts here?

Hell, I"m all for more Hurley flashbacks. Did I read that Jorge Garcia actually posts here?

Yes he does. His nickname is ThinkImGonnaHurley.

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/forumdisplay.php?f=52

I recall in an ep from season 1 that Hurley told someone that he was know as great warrior back home ( i dont remeber the exact words). But does anyone think that this may have led to him being commited to a psych ward?

There is a discussion (somewhere) about the possibility that the Knights of the Templar could be linked to Lost...if Hurley was telling people that he was a warrior (which got him locked up) then perhaps he thought he was (is) a knight/warrior.

Also could someone answer this question for me, it has probably been asked somewhere else...so sorry...but...how did Hurley pick his Lotto numbers? Did he pick the Nos at random, did they mean something to him or were they a lucky dip??

They were constantly repeated by his collegue in the psych ward, Leonard.

Just for clarities sake (and to recap a quote from Hurley), a meteor can never hit the earth. The second it hits anything on the ground, it is a meteorite. This means whatever hit Hurley's place of work (The chicken shack, which is shown in EHH w/ DJ Qualls as another employee) landed and was still intact afterwards.

I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but nothing on the surface of the earth can be struck by a meteor, because then the name changes. Just for clarities sake =]

First post, everyone!

In this episode, the synopsis says:

that Hurley has trouble with an assigned task in the hatch

could this mean that:


Hurley has to input the same "cursed" numbers into the computer inside the hatch?


What y'all think?

Okay got a bigger question -

How does Hurley get down into the hatch to have trouble with the assignment? Does Kate, Jack or Locke come out of the hatch? Does Hurley bring more of the castaways over to the hatch? With how freaked Hurley was to see those numbers on the hatch I just can't picture him willingly climbing down into it!

My speculation:

Hurley has to enter the numbers into the computer. He can't do it because he believes that the numbers are cursed. As a result, the Hatch blows up & the Lostaways lose the cool hideout & all of the supplies (& maybe even the female character who was rumored to die this season). As a result, everyone hates Hugo.

Bah, because this is episode in which we find out that Hurley is responsible indirectly for the crash. I'm thinking he may be the guy Des is supposed to meet...

Good point.

I am also curious as to how he got the nickname "Hurley." I remember in the episode (I can't remember the name, sorry!) where Hurley is doing the census, he's discussing with Jack the reason why they need to do one. He mentions something about the fact that Hurley isn't his real name, but doesn't want to go into why that's his nickname. Hmmm.

(Maybe he "hurled" a lot or something?? :eek:)

Personally, I think he invented the nickname Hurley for himself because he was sick of being Hugo (possibly "Hugo the fat kid"). I bet we'll see lots of fat jokes pointed in his direction in this episode.

I can't remember the exact wording, but did Hurley say to Jack "a meteor(ite) hit the place I worked at", or "used to work at"?

The question being, why was he working at a chicken place after he won the lottery, or if it hit after he quit, why was that such a curse on him (unless he had a friend working there or something). Sorry, worded badly, but you get my point.

Going out on a limb here cause its been mentioned in the past.

What if the task in question has nothing to do with the numbers, but with food. Twice Hurley has been accused of having food or not losing enough weight considering the circumstances. What if they find his food secret or catch him skimming from the supply room ?

Just a kooky theory, but I always felt it was an undelveloped angle that was left hanging from season 1.

Its gotta be about his curse, maybe everyone hates him, in his flashbacks, because they know that something bad will happen when he is around.

how would Hurley even get into the hatch. Locke had enuff trouble lowering Kate down. It will be interesting to see he gets lowered down there, if he gets lowered down there..

I'm curious about this episode's title as well and can't wait to see it next week. I don't really have much for a theory about what the title could mean but I do have something to ponder...

It seems most of you think that Hurley got himself committed to a psych hospital for some reason or another. For some reason, I never thought that he was sent there for being 'crazy'. I always thought he was at the psych hospital because he used to work there. I have nothing to prove that but it's something to ponder.

Based on the preview (and this isn't a spoiler, since everyone should have seen the preview by now... but just in case....)

I think it's because of the food issue. Did you see Hurley's face when he walked into the food storage room?? And then Charlie saying to him, "I know about the food..." I just took it to mean that maybe he "overindulged" on the rationing or something. .



But then again, it could have a totally different meaning.

Based on the preview (and this isn't a spoiler, since everyone should have seen the preview by now... but just in case....)

I think it's because of the food issue. Did you see Hurley's face when he walked into the food storage room?? And then Charlie saying to him, "I know about the food..." I just took it to mean that maybe he "overindulged" on the rationing or something. .



But then again, it could have a totally different meaning.

I think it's more likely that Hurley's "assigned task" is to guard the food so nobody else overindulges. Everyone is going to want some, right away, and Jack's the kind of leader who would forbid anyone from touching anything until they decide how to ration it. During the preview he says, "Nobody gets anything" and Hurley "responds" (yeah, we know how those sneaky preview editors like to piece things together!) with "Everyone's going to hate me."

I agree with a few others and suggest...

The title is about Hurley knowing about all the food in the hatch but not telling anybody because he has been asked to keep it a secret by Jack etc. Everybody thinks hes being a lard arse and keeping it to himself

Going out on a limb here cause its been mentioned in the past.

What if the task in question has nothing to do with the numbers, but with food. Twice Hurley has been accused of having food or not losing enough weight considering the circumstances. What if they find his food secret or catch him skimming from the supply room ?

Just a kooky theory, but I always felt it was an undelveloped angle that was left hanging from season 1.
u may have it ErrorF002, did u see him....oops i mean Hurly in the food storage locker...lol
skybluelost:-))

I've read an entire 4 pages of this thread and just couldn't bring myself to continue...much too hyped about posting my own theory....lol. So if i repeat anything already mentioned, please forgive me:biggrin: . I was waiting for this eppy ever since last season and was upset that the writers left us hanging about the "Hurley" situation. Anyway, I think I've posted this B4 about the Jack eppy...(the one where he sticks up for some chunky little kid who was getting knocked around the playground)...I always thought that kid was "Hurley". I don't have any facts to base this on, just my own gut instinct. I think "Hurley" was always picked on by his schoolmates and neighborhood kids. I think this drove him a bit psycho, hell maybe he even actually layed it into someone and beat them so severely it landed him on the ward. "Everybody Hates Hurley" could be a connection between 2 things....his past ( schoolmates, neighborhood bullies and family) and the present ( what happens that brings the castaways to dislike him or him thinking they do.

I think after showing us what they have shown us in orientation, it's the PERFECT time to show us good old Toomey in the psych ward, and see exactly what transpired between he and Hugo, and listen to Toomey talk about "The INCIDENT". ;)

It occured to me today that Toomey is probably the reason they have to enter in those numbers, and was the reason there was an "incident"to begin with. Down in the hatch, loses his mind, messes everything up, starts a countdown with a code to reset every 108 minutes which the sum of his favorite string of numbers. :)

Njc---------------

if you watch preview of the this episode hugo says Everybody is gonna hate me, while drinking something and probably eating all those stuff as clearly jacks says no body gets anything

Everyone will hate Hugo, aka Hurly because he will eat all of the food and everyone will be pissed. I know I would be if he ate all of the chocolate and din't leave me any.

how would Hurley even get into the hatch. Locke had enuff trouble lowering Kate down. It will be interesting to see he gets lowered down there, if he gets lowered down there..

He walked in the front door with Sayid half way through "Orientation" after Kate went to get them.

OMGimsointolost, The kid Jack stuck up for on the playground grew up to be the red headed man who was his best man at his wedding.

He walked in the front door with Sayid half way through "Orientation" after Kate went to get them.

OMGimsointolost, The kid Jack stuck up for on the playground grew up to be the red headed man who was his best man at his wedding.
like the red headed kid tie-in....did not know that he was the one at jack's wedding..
thanks
skybluelost:-)

how would Hurley even get into the hatch. Locke had enuff trouble lowering Kate down. It will be interesting to see he gets lowered down there, if he gets lowered down there..

he didn't down that hatch, but through the door Kate, Jack and Desmond used. the one that sticks.

I would think that the title would have something to do with Hurley's weight and how they are afraid that he is going to eat all of the food. Doesn't that make sense? We'll see in a few days. But seriously, why would everyone hate Hugo?

But seriously, why would everyone hate Hugo?

I don't know. What's not to like? :smile:

I can't believe the reason for the Hatred would be food related. That is juvenile.

I do think the promo's were made to lead us in that direction. But I'm not buying it. That would be an insult to Jorge.

I can't believe the reason for the Hatred would be food related. That is juvenile.

I do think the promo's were made to lead us in that direction. But I'm not buying it. That would be an insult to Jorge.

Agree that is the direction the previews lead us but

what if the problem is that Hurley is suppose to take his 'turn' entering the numbers into the computor. Now that would be a task he would really have trouble handling IMHO.
So what if everybody is going to hate him because he doesn't enter the numbers?

I would think that the title would have something to do with Hurley's weight and how they are afraid that he is going to eat all of the food. Doesn't that make sense? We'll see in a few days. But seriously, why would everyone hate Hugo?


There has been speculation on all the whys everyone would hate Hugo but I think if it is based on weight or fear he will eat all the food that would be too cruel. I expect better than that from the writers!

I think it may have something to do with the numbers... I know that

They put Hurley down there for awhile to punch in the numbers, since he's got them stuck in his head permanently. But we all know that he is afraid of those numbers, and thinks that they're bad luck. So maybe he doesn't push the execute number in time or something like that.. Also in the Canadian preview, Charlie says something about the food and " I thought you were my friend."

That's my guess....

I dont see why they would hate him for that unless there were really dread consequences but then wouldn't the storyline be over?

It's going to drive us crazy I think!

What if Hurley and DJ Qualls were suppose to buy lotto tickets together but he did not get any moeny from DJ so he did not share the winnings, or that Hurley bought other tickets as well and said that the ticket that won was not part of the ones that he bought with DJ and that is why Hugo is cursed and not becuase of the "numbers"

Agree that is the direction the previews lead us but

what if the problem is that Hurley is suppose to take his 'turn' entering the numbers into the computor. Now that would be a task he would really have trouble handling IMHO.
So what if everybody is going to hate him because he doesn't enter the numbers?
I'm with you and everyone else who posted this thought. Makes more sense than any food issue.

Maybe the title just has to do with Hurley's way of thinking. Maybe he feels less connected to the lostaways and wonders if they don't like him. He's demonstrated attempts to open up to Charlie and Jack... neither one responded too well to this.

I'm with you and everyone else who posted this thought. Makes more sense than any food issue.

Maybe the title just has to do with Hurley's way of thinking. Maybe he feels less connected to the lostaways and wonders if they don't like him. He's demonstrated attempts to open up to Charlie and Jack... neither one responded too well to this.

I'd rather have them stop pushing in the numbers sooner than later. I don't know why but I don't think it's going to be about that. The 3 new clips show him having a Food Fantasy.. so I think it will be about that.

:confused: :confused: :confused: I agree with everyone who thinks that hating Hugo over food issues would be pretty lame. I like the idea that it has something to do with his past. Maybe he used to feel like everyone hated him and that's how he wound up in an institution.

Who else thinks that Hurley's nickname came about from an eating disorder? Self-hatred is a prime aspect of people who suffer from them. Could explain why he thinks others hate him...