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Lost_In_Louisiana

10-05-2005, 04:32 PM

Personally, I can't wait to see her.
I'm real curious to know what kind of hell the other survivors have been through. Tonight's episode is gonna be really good, I can feel it!

Oh definitely! The writers have been bragging since this summer that the THIRD episode is gonna knock our socks off. With all the hype and buildup, I sure hope it doesn't disappoint. But somehow I think it will pull some punches and surprise the hell out of all of us!

Regarding Michelle Rodriguez - WOW, she comes with a lot of baggage eh??? I'm looking at her character through fresh eyes so I see a strong-willed woman with a never-say-die attitude. I have the feeling the viewers will be led into hating her only to get hit with some kind of emotional whammy once they feature her backstory and first 40 days on the island. (a la Jin!)

;)

JAZZYJ

10-05-2005, 04:58 PM

Oh definitely! The writers have been bragging since this summer that the THIRD episode is gonna knock our socks off. With all the hype and buildup, I sure hope it doesn't disappoint. But somehow I think it will pull some punches and surprise the hell out of all of us!

Regarding Michelle Rodriguez - WOW, she comes with a lot of baggage eh??? I'm looking at her character through fresh eyes so I see a strong-willed woman with a never-say-die attitude. I have the feeling the viewers will be led into hating her only to get hit with some kind of emotional whammy once they feature her backstory and first 40 days on the island. (a la Jin!)

;)

Yep, I think her back story is going to be excellent. I mean a lot of crazy stuff can happen in........:cnfused1: .........wait, how long have they been there, like 40 something days, well a lot can happen in that amount of time.

Jenn

10-05-2005, 05:02 PM

I for one cant wait for Ana. I see I may be the minority in this thread with liking Michelle but I cant wait for her to bring a bit of strong female wit to the island. Not to say the other ladies on the island are not strong or witty...but you know there is a tendency to be sort of timid or to kind of hold themselves back at times. I think with Ana we can guarantee none of that ;).

Personally I think Ana is a going to be a 'good' character, but at this point will have general distrust about anyone who isnt in her current circle of people. I suppose when she runs into Jack at some point that will all change.

Now the question I have (which im sure is most everyones question) is what is her backstory. Is she a business professional? You cant go by the cellphone because most everyone have those these days... Personally im thinking they are going to make her the antithesis of Kate in everyway. Wouldnt be surprised to find out she was a cop/detective/agent in LA as opposed to Kate's criminal backstory.

The possibilites are endless!

Lost_In_Louisiana

10-05-2005, 05:09 PM

Personally im thinking they are going to make her the antithesis of Kate in everyway. Wouldnt be surprised to find out she was a cop/detective/agent in LA as opposed to Kate's criminal backstory. The possibilites are endless!

Ooooooooooooh, nice antithesis theory - I'll be mulling on that one today!

:coolorng:

JAZZYJ

10-05-2005, 05:09 PM

PhillyGirl2873

10-05-2005, 05:14 PM

I learned last season not to trust the promos. They've mislead me before and they are bound to mislead me again. They could have edited it out of sequence for all we know.

BTW I love Michelle Rodriguez. I've seen most of her movies and loved her in all of them...Girl Fight, Resident Evil, Fast and the Furous, SWAT, Blue Crush. I'm a fan.

JAZZYJ

10-05-2005, 05:18 PM

I learned last season not to trust the promos. They've mislead me before and they are bound to mislead me again. They could have edited it out of sequence for all we know.

Oh yeah, the previews couldn't be more misleading, but they sure do make you want to watch, they always leave you wanting more. :jump1: :jump: :jump1:

árásarmaður

10-05-2005, 06:42 PM

Very Good Observation!! I agrree!!

So you would bet your house too?
:P

SawyersGlasses

10-05-2005, 08:08 PM

Just MHO. But beyond thinking she's rude, crude and has bad social manners, I haven't had time to form an opinion about her. :)

OMG! ME TOO! I can't stand the girl (Michelle OR her character). I don't really know why. Just have never liked her...and DEFINITELY not a fan of Ana Lucia, too! UGH!!!

Mithrandir

10-05-2005, 08:51 PM

She's so HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
I cant wait omg, shes so hot !!!! :thumbup:

Lost_In_Louisiana

10-05-2005, 09:17 PM

leaving Jack stuck with Ana Lucia, who is WAY too much woman for Jack to handle.

LOL! :lol:

What an understatement - you are SO right!

:biggrin:

pengbear

10-05-2005, 11:48 PM

Well I don't care for Ana Lucia. She has not shown one personality trait so far that is good. She is a floozy (hitting on Jack) insensitive (hitting on a grieving Jack) has bad manners (interrupting her conversation to take a cell phone call), she's a lush (drinking at 10 am)
doesn't take a hint (God made her plane crash, she landed underwater --stay down, Ana!)
she hit Sawyer (poor defenseless Sawyer) she lied, (acting like a prisoner)
she stole Sawyer's gun, and she has chipmunk cheeks. As far as I'm concerned, she probably was on the grassy knoll in Dallas.

go away Ana.

i_love_dmjgmfna

10-05-2005, 11:57 PM

At the moment, I greatly dislike Ana-Lucia.

Amber

10-06-2005, 12:49 AM

Ana Lucia = I'd hit it.

I like her character, she can stand up for herself and could actually win a fight against Sawyer hehe. I think I'd punch him in the face as well if he kept calling me sweetheart and cupcake. I'm sure she'll turn out to be not so bad. and I think you girlies aren't so fond of her because she may move in on your precious Sawyer!!!!!

Lost_In_Louisiana

10-06-2005, 09:49 AM

Well I think a lot of her actions will be better understood once we find out more of her backstory. The writers have said that her group of survivors did not fare nearly as well as Jack's group did - which I'm taking to mean they didn't find as many supplies (or luggage), food was scarce and perhaps water was hard to come by. Plus they may not have had a nice cave to shelter in. Who knows?

I think she is just suspicious of newcomers with a gun. I would be too!!!

We shall see.........

bluorchid2

10-06-2005, 09:52 AM

LuvMySayid

10-06-2005, 10:34 AM

rvarzea

10-06-2005, 10:42 AM

Is it tough to believe that the people that caught Mike, Jin and Sawyer aren't the "others"? Earlier in the thread someone mention (and I read this as well somewhere) that the other 815 survivors have had a hard go of it in comparison to what we've watched. So why not be suspicious of people you've never met when you're on an island trying to stay alive??

Further, she is obviously teamed up with the big black dude and the other captors there, so obvoiusly she interested in protecting them.

As for hiting Sawyer in the next episode... he obviously is going to try something Ana-Lucia: "Looking to get yourself a bit of revenge?" Then she decks him. She's protecting herself. I think any of us would have done the same in that situation.

paulitabonita

10-06-2005, 11:15 AM

I think if I were in her situation and had gone through hell, I would definitely be distrustful of everyone even people on the same plane. She is protecting herself and I don't blame her for it. I for one can't wait to see her interaction with Jack. She is going to whip him into shape. He is falling apart and I think she is going to help him get it together-I may of course be wrong in all of this. As for Michelle Rodriguez-I have liked her ever since Girlfight and have always loved the characters she plays. She is tough and gutsy and no-no nonsense. I also agree that she may be a policewoman/FBI whatever. She knew how to handle a gun and how to take care of herself. She has had training somewhere.

LuvMySayid

10-06-2005, 11:23 AM

Yeah, she's definitely been training in a gym. Look at those shoulders! Crimanentlies, no wonder she packs such a punch. But more to the point, we need to determine why a woman needs to be built like a boxer and have gun skills.

i'mLOST

10-06-2005, 11:25 AM

Don't forget - there is supposed to be an upcoming "love triangle" between Ana-Lucia, Kate and Jack!!!

Also - think about how many of the original 48 survivors have "decked" Sawyer -- or at least thought about it. lol That doesn't mean anything! Heck - Sayid tortured him!

On2ndThought

10-06-2005, 12:07 PM

I'm going to assume that Michelle Rodriques is playing Ana Lucia the way she's written----tough, aggressive, obnoxious, pushy. So, as far as Michelle, the actress, goes I'm saying she's doing a great job.

As for the character Ana Lucia, I have to say that I can't stand her-----people who are tough, aggressive, obnoxious and pushy don't sit well with me. I didn't like her from the first time she hit on Jack in the airport......she was insensitive and grating. It doesn't bother me that she was a woman doing this because I would have found the character equally obnoxious if the genders had been reversed. If I witnessed a guy hitting on a woman who had not only just lost her dad but had to go through the trauma of bringing the body back home, I would classify the guy as a major jerk. Same goes for Ana Lucia...... (Actually, if I'm really honest, I expect better behavior from one of my own, so maybe I am more annoyed at her doing that because she's a woman----unfair, but true!)

I'm sure things will be revealed about her that may temper my opinion of her. (It took me a while to really like Sawyer.....) I wouldn't be at all surprised if she turns out to be a cop or an FBI agent or something like that due to all the excessive toughness. She's obviously the survivor type.....

So, thumbs up to Michelle; thumbs down (for now) to Ana Lucia.....

(As for Ana Lucia decking Sawyer, I'm just going to assume she didn't like being called "cupcake"! :rolleyes: )

Mr. Find

10-06-2005, 12:32 PM

To my thinking, Ana Lucia doesn't come off as empowered, sexy or whatever. Everything about her, starting with her voice, I find obnoxious and irritating. I hope the actress who is playing her turns it down a notch or two, and remembers to blow her nose once in a while.

Just an opinion, folks. I'm sure there are characters I like that others can't stand. Regardless, nobody can dispute that, even taking into account a possible misfire with Ana Lucia, the producers have done an overall amazing job with the characters and casting.

KNJ

10-06-2005, 12:51 PM

I think she is going to be a cop, with Kate the criminal. I think these two women are going to open Jack's eye's a WHOLE lot. Why? Because Jack sees things in black and white. However, I think that it will show just because you are a cop, does not make you a good person, with good intentions, and just because you have been labeled a criminal does not mean you are a bad person with a hard heart. I think this will short term lead to a Jack/Ana togetherness, and in return push Kate toward Sawyer. I think Kate will see that's not the person she is or wants to be and she can overcome her past. Jack will realize Ana's not the person she is supposed to be "cop" and thus JaTE ha ha.

PrincessV

10-06-2005, 01:07 PM

The first thing that comes to mind when asked about AnaLucia is ANNOYING!!!!
She plays the same character every time!!! The annyoing, I'm a tough-girl, tom-boy and I won't take any crap from any guy I don't want to (although her boss is that huge jungle guy whom I know even rough and tough ana can't beat up! ha). There was no need for her to hit Sawyer, all three of the men were very polite, curteous and nice to her, they felt bad for her and wanted to help her.

She was annoying in the airport and she's annoying on the beach. Sorry NO WAY will there be ANY chemistry between her ans Sawyer!!! Possibly her and Jack b/c he didn't see her acting like an a$$ on the beach. None of our awesome lostaway ladies are going to like her! I hope Kate kicks her a$$

conspiricytheory

10-06-2005, 01:09 PM

So far I find her character quite manipulative and quite annoying. Then again after two scenes, we really can't have a good feel of her character.

flora

10-06-2005, 01:22 PM

Well, actually, I think it's the coolest thing ever that she can make a fist and punch out a guy as big and muscular as Sawyer. She won my respect (well, envy, really) with one punch in that particular situation. She's definitely empowered.

Yay, LuvMySayid! Me too...she knocked a couple of good punches inbetween this episode and the preview for next week!

I think she'll melt as soon as she sees Dr. McLovely (aka Jack) when this group of survivors/rapscallions/others-with-a-lower-case-o make Sawyer, Jin and Michael take them back to Camp Lostaway. I think her group of "others-with-a-lower-case-o" are just trying to surivive and are suspicious of any strangers in case they are Others (with a capital "O").

Besides...ringleader "Shaft"- shut your mouth!- is totally from the Beechcraft and if he's a badasssssss African drug runner, he's got some militant backbone for sure!

KNJ

10-06-2005, 01:26 PM

Or like i"ve said before she should just be eaten by a polar bear ha ha.

pterodactyl

10-06-2005, 01:41 PM

I have just been getting very defensive over the idea of this aggressive hardass chick joining our lostaways. It all feels very invasive. If it comes down to her or Kate in any way, it's Kate all the way. I can also see her clashing with Shannon, fighting for the right to be Queen Bitch of the Island.

Oh, but can't just just imagine if the four of them pair off in whatever way {Kate, Ana Lucia, Jack, & Sawyer}? They could go on double dates on the beach and eat guava by candlelight. Pfft.

porkinz

10-06-2005, 01:56 PM

I can understand the anxiety that would come from seeing new people on an island inhabited by the others and their pregnant lady child stealing ways, but why so different from our favorite castaways? When they first met Danielle for instance they were anxious but didn't beat her up and lock her in a cell. Maybe they would have if Sayid hadn't stopped them but I doubt it.

Funny that was what Danielle did when she first met Sayid perhaps our losters are a little too kind to strangers. Heck they let Desmond go even though Jack chased him through the jungle and he held a gun to them earlier.

These new castaways have taken a bit of time to dig a cell into the ground and fasten a secure locking mechanism, felt it necessary to form a ruse to find out the intentions of their new prisoners and I won't even go into greeting them with a swift club to the head without asking questions first.

Does this mentality come from the leader of the group? Perhaps someone with a police or military background (Ana)? Has taken charge of this group where as the lostaways have Jack the doctor. Just seems like a club to the head and a quick lockdown in a makeshift cell is a heck of a way to say hello to strangers. But as evidenced by Danielle maybe it's just the way you should react on this island. Maybe that's why she was so intrusive to Jack just a little nosey about the ring and she obviously is observant to notice.

Balguro

10-06-2005, 02:05 PM

I have just been getting very defensive over the idea of this aggressive hardass chick joining our lostaways. It all feels very invasive. If it comes down to her or Kate in any way, it's Kate all the way. I can also see her clashing with Shannon, fighting for the right to be Queen BITCHA of the Island.

Ana would kick Shannon's butt every day of the week.

I think we have yet to see whether Ana will be good or bad. I think Michael might have gotten some pull with her. This group might work with our group, but me thinks this area maybe near another “station”.

nesta411

10-06-2005, 02:09 PM

maybe they needed to fashion a cell because the "others" have already come into contact with them. maybe that is why they are weiry of sawyer, jin, and mike. i have heard that the others may have killed alot of the survivors.

flora

10-06-2005, 02:17 PM

A) Maybe that pit was already there and they just use it.
- or it was originally a BBQ pit for boar!
B) Shannon would totally shoot Ana-Lucia if she got beeyotch-slapped by her, though I do agree that in hand to hand combat it would be Ana-L. for sure.

Debisobsessed

10-06-2005, 05:05 PM

From the airport scene alone I thought that Ana was a cop. She was deperately trying to get info out of Jack at the airport and fled quickly when her phone rang. In this epi, she was extremely curious when she saw Sawyer's gun and visibly reacted when Sawyer said he got it from a fed marshal. She also disarmed him in an instant and clearly knew how to handle a weapon. I got a totally different vibe than that from Kate when she was shown handling a gun. As for good or bad, I think she is good but in full-on survival bad-*** mode. We've heard that she's going to be a love interest for Jack, but I just don't see it. My hubby's hoping for a Ana/Kate/Shannon love triangle :)

Fausage5440

10-06-2005, 05:20 PM

Debiso thats a good point with the cop thing. She seemed very able to question people and their backgrounds. She did it with Jack and with the group of guys. She says things to get information out of people. She may have gone down there to get questions but then obviously found out he had a gun. These survivors are the back of the plane im sure of it. Just think I mean if you didn't have access to the food or supplies that they had you would be very miltaristic in survival trying to fiend for anything you could get. And you did notice he picked her up on a airplane rope same like the ones locke'd used to go down the hatch. Another intersting thing..what if the current took them to the other side of the island?

sickotriz

10-06-2005, 06:25 PM

As many people have stated here, I think the survival of these other people has been pretty rocky, and their leadership has been much different than the original Lostaways. Perhaps they've had run-ins with The Others, or maybe some of them have gotten Sick and have had to be put down. Either way, the militaristic leadership of Shaft and Ana-L has gotten them this far. I can't wait to see how this group and the original survivors interact.

*edit*

Oh yeah, Ana Lucia is still hot.

Lost_In_Louisiana

10-06-2005, 07:11 PM

I think if I were in her situation and had gone through hell, I would definitely be distrustful of everyone even people on the same plane. She is protecting herself and I don't blame her for it..

I have the feeling that there is a good reason for all this distrust and self-protection. Even if this group hasn't been attacked by the Others, who's to say there wasn't some psycho survivor from the same plane crash that was stealing food, sabotaging their camp, or threatening & hurting other passengers? Or maybe there was more than one prisoner on that plane, with a different marshall? Ana may be thinking Sawyer is the partner of the crazy dude in their camp but they got separated in the crash and he killed the marshall for his gun or whatever.

All of this is WILD speculation on my part - I'm just thinking of reasons why they would act the way they did. And seeing what's happened on the island so far, I can think of a LOT of things that would make you scared and distrustful.

Everything about her, starting with her voice, I find obnoxious and irritating. I hope the actress who is playing her turns it down a notch or two, and remembers to blow her nose once in a while..

Blow her nose? I didn't notice it was running. I might have to rewatch that. Or did you mean it sounded stuffy? I didn't find her voice annoying.

Ana would kick Shannon's butt every day of the week..

Never underestimate the power of a manipulative bitch. Shannon seems to have a knack for turning attention on to someone else while she quietly plots her backstabbing.

We've heard that she's going to be a love interest for Jack, but I just don't see it. My hubby's hoping for a Ana/Kate/Shannon love triangle :)

:24:

Oh! That was a good one! LOL
Now you've got all the guys fantasizing....
:24:

hello earth

10-06-2005, 07:15 PM

I personally love Shannon, bad moods and everything. However, Shannon's flavor of bitchiness is not the girlfight kind. Shannon is definitely the plot behind your back, snark to your face kind of chick. If you are looking for a girlfight it will definitely be with Kate. As we saw from the bank robbery Kate knows how to kick *** and has no trouble doing it.

RamessesIX

10-07-2005, 12:47 PM

Sherry

10-07-2005, 01:34 PM

I think she is just trying to survive. I believe the group she is with has had it rough (The Others) and trust no one now. But, hey, I've been wrong before...

Lost_In_Louisiana

10-07-2005, 04:47 PM

I suspect that she'll be this season's antagonist, a la Sawyer last year. Now that Sawyer has made his peace with Jack and everyone else, he really can't pull off the 'renegade' act anymore. And let's face it, as much as we like to see Sawyer on the right side, it's bad for drama if everyone gets along.

I agree - Sawyer has softened up. But I think Ana-Lucia will bring out the snark in him! They'll probably have a few "verbal copulations" while Sawyer is planning his revenge. The enmity between them should provide some good drama! :argue:

;)

flora

10-07-2005, 05:02 PM

Drama? Nah, man I bet any future Ana-Lucia/Sawyer verbal spats will be showing up on the "funniest lines" threads for each episode. Oh man! I look so forward to that! ;):):)

JAZZYJ

10-07-2005, 05:22 PM

Drama? Nah, man I bet any future Ana-Lucia/Sawyer verbal spats will be showing up on the "funniest lines" threads for each episode. Oh man! I look so forward to that! ;):):)

Yeah, there is no way to shut Sawyer up and why would you want to, he is hillarious. :biggrin:

Sherry

10-07-2005, 05:24 PM

I much prefer the idea of Ana/Sawyer over Kate/Sawyer.

And, BTW, I know a very good way to shut Sawyer up...

JAZZYJ

10-07-2005, 05:25 PM

I much prefer the idea of Ana/Sawyer over Kate/Sawyer.

what what what :fear3: :shock: :surprise: :shock1: :fear2: :jawdrop: :scared: :whoa:

venicebeachbrat

10-07-2005, 05:28 PM

Based on her character with Jack at the airport she didn't seem so bad. I really don't know what to think about her on the Island. I really can't see her and Jack having a love affair on the Island. Will be interesting to see that unfold.......Would rather see her with Sayid......

Lost_In_Louisiana

10-07-2005, 07:24 PM

Lost_In_Louisiana

10-07-2005, 07:38 PM

OK, I have a question that's bugging me........

How many of you think Ana-Lucia is either a criminal or a police officer because of the way she held the gun??? I keep seeing posts claiming that "the average female" would not be able to disarm Sawyer like that. I can't think of anything further from the truth.

She was behind him (and the gun was tucked into the back of his pants), he wasn't paying any attention to what she was doing and he was distracted thinking about his plan and talking to Michael. How hard is it to grab it and point it? Errr, not hard. (I do have to admit though that her one-armed ascent up the rope was cool looking)

I have shot firearms but am no law enforcement officer or anything and I can tell you, just about anyone with guts could have done what Ana-Lucia did. But do the writers assume we stereotype women as weak and unable to handle a gun so if one can, then she must be professionally trained???

:confused:

Lost_In_Louisiana

10-07-2005, 07:41 PM

I keep seeing posts claiming that "the average female" would not be able to disarm Sawyer like that. I can't think of anything further from the truth.

Actually, in reality, women would be much more likely to be presented the opportunity to surprise and disarm someone, simply because men tend to underestimate women.

;)

green_eyed_colleen

10-07-2005, 10:09 PM

I agree with the manipulation --- Look how she twisted Jack into drinks with her on the plane.
I think she gets PAID to manipulate men. (no not THAT :wink3: way)

Give me a second. I will explain.

The whole time I watched them in the bar when Jack is doing his I WANT TO BE ALONE imitation and she keeps chipping away at his cold shoulder I kept saying to myself was PLANT. I think Jack might be going through a NASTY divorce and she was the P.I. who is suppose to manipulate him into flirting with her. It was like a scene out of a bad talk show.
"WE CAUGHT YOUR MAN CHEATING AND WE GOT IT ON TAPE."

As for her being able to punch out Sawyer and to her ability with guns and how she seemed REALLY ticked off when Sawyer said it was Marshall's gun. I say EX-COP.Maybe a DIRTY cop? :undecide: :police: Perfect foil for Kate.

Sherry

10-07-2005, 10:45 PM

Take a deep breath JazzyJ...Slowly in....and release...

Didn't mean to shock you but I think most people here know I'm not a huge Kate fan and don't want her anywhere near my Sawyer. :smile:

I hold the personal belief that she and the people she is with have had bad run-ins with "the Others" and are extremely distrustful and have gone Lord of the Flies. I'm HOPING they learn to trust our guys and join forces. I like her.

But since I am seldom right you can probably expect the opposite of anything I say. :ohwell:

KNJ

10-08-2005, 12:45 AM

I guess I just think she is a cop, because they want her to be opposite of Kate. I think she is a dirty cop because that will play with Jack's inner struggle.

Sherry

10-08-2005, 08:24 AM

Yes, my first thought when she started asking questions about the gun was that she was a federal marshall and was traveling with the other federal marshall in cognito in case Kate managed to get away from him again.

Lost_In_Louisiana

10-08-2005, 11:42 AM

I definitely think she could be a cop or ex-cop, simply because, as you said, she would be a perfect foil for Kate!

I just got my feminist sensibilities in a snit because a lot of posters assumed since she was a woman she obviously wouldn't be able to handle a gun - so she must be military or law enforcement. :drowsy:

It's especially funny in my household where every female knows how to shoot a gun AND a bow & arrow. My oldest daughter won first place in a target shooting competition hold at a local firing range when she was 10 years old (competing against much older kids). My middle daughter could nail a squirrel at 40 yards with her bow & arrow. My youngest started shooting the bow at 5 years old and surprised the hell out of people when she could hit the bullseye from 20 yards out. The bow was nearly as big as she was! :lol:

Maybe we're just a rare breed down here or something.......:tongue1:

Sherry

10-08-2005, 12:45 PM

Lost_In_Louisiana

10-08-2005, 01:13 PM

I learned to shoot when I was old enough to hold a gun and I qualify on M-16s regularly in the Air Force but none of that means I could actually disarm someone as quickly and efficiently as she did..

True. Shooting large weapons does not necessarily mean you are especially quick and nimble. But I mentioned in an earlier post that I didn't think she really had to be experienced to snatch the gun while he was distracted. She'd just have to have guts, which she obviously has. ;)

Watching her get pulled up the rope though, looked very militaristic. Man she has got some muscles! So maybe she's had military training, but I really think any of the hardcore chicks at my local gym could do the same.

I think they will make her occupation something in law enforcement simply to advance the Kate storyline - but I think that's a bit of a cop out and stereotypical of man-thinking: that a woman can only be tough if that's her job. I think dudes would be pretty surprised by what a 5'2" 110 lb woman can do when backed into a corner. :tongue1:

But think about it.......
Jack was a cushy surgeon in real life, yet he has stepped up to the fearless leader position and probably dove into more dangerous situations than he EVER thought he would.
Locke was a cubicle drone in real life. Now he's the Great White Hunter.
Jin was a businessman. Now he fishes, lives off the land and is quite comfortable making his home in a cave.

No one questions how these men were suddenly quite proficient at their skills. How did Jack, growing up in a silver-spoon-spoiled-rich-kid atmosphere learn about shooting and self-defense? There aren't threads running about how Jack was a weapons expert (he sure knew how to load and fire a weapon) or Jin was an undercover survivalist. Locke's sudden proficiency we are just supposed to accept on faith.....:rolleyes:

So why the suspicion surrounding Ana-Lucia? There's no difference between her and the guys - except that she is female.

But yes, there will always be that small minority of people that believe the "ME TARZAN, YOU JANE!" attitude.

Yeah, so let's start changing that attitude.... :biggrin:

Lost.In.Lost

10-08-2005, 02:38 PM

But think about it.......
Jack was a cushy surgeon in real life, yet he has stepped up to the fearless leader position and probably dove into more dangerous situations than he EVER thought he would.
Locke was a cubicle drone in real life. Now he's the Great White Hunter.
Jin was a businessman. Now he fishes, lives off the land and is quite comfortable making his home in a cave.
No one questions how these men were suddenly quite proficient at their skills.
:

Yknow that's true. None of these guys were "survivalists" in their real life. But they knew how to make campfires, find edible food, weave a fish net (well, Jin mighta learned that from his dad), throw knives, hunt boar, load and shoot unfamiliar guns, set up a trap for Ethan, follow tracks in the woods, and hey lets not forget - they never get lost! Now that is really unbelievable. Most people once they hit thick woods, get lost easily ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT.

KNJ

10-08-2005, 03:03 PM

Okay well I'm sure many girls can take care of themselves, I for one could not ha ha. I would be crying, wanting my cell phone to phone home ha ha. Yea I guess i'm a whimp, but that's not why I thought she was law inforcement, cause even though I'm such of a whimp I'm still going to take gun lesson's or whatever with my brother ha ha. I really think her being a cop will help several story lines, and lead Jack to Kate ha ha.

nesta411

10-08-2005, 03:18 PM

well kate had some survivalist skills as her being on the run probably helped her out. and locke was trying to go on a survivalist trip before he was denied. so he very well may have had studied and read up on things he would need. heck we might see that he had begun traing before the accident that caused him to use a wheelchair.

Ontological

10-08-2005, 05:49 PM

Ana-Lucia and Sawyer will probably be one step short from tearing each other's throats out this season. Can anybody say "love-hate relationship"?

If this was a male character, I honestly don't think anybody would have a problem with Ana-Lucia's attitude. After all, Sawyer became a quick fan favourite after the show's initial episodes. So why is it particularly grating when a woman acts this way? Just an observation...

IMHO, it's a pleasant change to see a female character taking charge and (I hope!) playing the leadership role. Kate comes really close, but she doesn't quite seem to make it the way Ana-Lucia does.

Sherry

10-08-2005, 07:16 PM

I still like her until she proves me beyond doubt that she is completely evil. And I'd like to see the spats between Ana and Sawyer. Yes, I'm sure there could be many sparks there!

Lost_In_Louisiana

10-09-2005, 07:20 AM

locke was trying to go on a survivalist trip before he was denied. so he very well may have had studied and read up on things he would need.

That's just it. Reading about hunting wild boar and actually DOING IT are 2 completely different things. You can read book upon book devoted especially to the habits of boar and still not be prepared for a face to face encounter. Boar are MEAN animals. If they think you are a threat, they will charge you and gore you with their tusks (and they can do some real damage). I don't care how much you know, when a boar THAT SIZE comes charging at you, you better have some real life experience. Locke brought back a boar the first time he went out hunting! :surprise:

If this was a male character, I honestly don't think anybody would have a problem with Ana-Lucia's attitude. After all, Sawyer became a quick fan favourite after the show's initial episodes. So why is it particularly grating when a woman acts this way? Just an observation...

IMHO, it's a pleasant change to see a female character taking charge and (I hope!) playing the leadership role. Kate comes really close, but she doesn't quite seem to make it the way Ana-Lucia does.

This was exactly my point! When a man is aggressive, dominant and immediately takes on a leadership role, people listen to him and do what he says. When a woman does the same thing she is viewed as a total BITCHA and the rest of the group openly bristles at the thought of her leading the charge.

I have a real-life example! :w00t:

Several years ago, as a kind of social experiment, I decided to start posting on a message board under the screen name LSUfan. I never said what gender I was but it was immediately assumed that I was a male football fan. I spoke my mind freely and even challenged the board administrators by insisting on certain changes. I didn't have ONE dissenting poster in my threads. They thought I was brave and good and an honorable leader for taking on the cause. They asked me advice on everything and whenever they had a question or complaint, they would discuss among themselves that "we should ask LSUfan first before we do anything." :rolleyes:

During this time of turmoil, I also registered as Birdie - again not stating my gender but it was assumed I was female. I espoused the same ideas and expressed the EXACT thoughts of my "alias poster" and I was immediately reprimanded by all the posters that supported "him". They would tell me I was a troublemaker and shouldn't be such a BITCHA. They chastised me for my BITCHAy attitude and basically wanted me to leave the board as they felt I had nothing important to contribute.

Most people do not realize how deep those stereotypes run. As a man I could make sexual comments and innuendo and not only would people laugh but female posters would openly flirt with me. As a woman I could say the exact same words (I even copied and pasted them) and was told, "this is not the place for that!" "shut your dirty mouth!" and "we don't want ho's like you here" :ohwell:

It was quite an eye opening experience for me!!! And now I am keenly aware of knee-jerk reactions to strong-willed women. You are SO right - if a man had done the same thing, no one would even be discussing this.

As for Kate, I see her as kind of a follower and hanger-on. She normally doesn't initiate any task herself - she just leeches on to whoever is going and tags along. She may be able to take care of herself, but she is definitely not leader material. Whereas Ana-Lucia seems to be the decision maker in her group so that should make for an interesting conflict if they meet up with the other survivors. :shock:

:D