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Naughty Paws
10-05-2005, 08:55 AM
NUMBERS
* Episode takes place approx. 4 years prior to the crash
* Total of 4 people in the pit: Jin, Ana, Sawyer, and Michael
* Total of 4 things Desmond took with him: Backpack, food, injection gun, and injection bottles
* Desmond says in 15 minutes, Jack will be very right or very wrong
* When Hurley joins them, the conter is on 4 mins
* Desmond tells Jack the code for the computer (the numbers and execute)

* Other Numbers
* Francine complains her mom stole $30 from her
* Desmond has been on the island for 3 years
* Jack says the world is “gonna end in 45 minutes”
* Helen and Locke were dating for at least 6 months
* Dharma Initiative was created in 1970
* Orientation film was made in 1980
* The hatch is station 3 out of 6 of the Dharma Initiative
* The job is a 2 person job
* each duty lasts 540 days
* Button is pushed every 108 minutes
* Michael tells Ana Walt is 10 yrs old
* Helen wasted 20 yrs of her life being angry
* We see the timer at 5:00 minutes as Sayid is working on it
* Locke thinks the last number in the code is 32, not 42
* Counter is on 1:04 when the alarms gets louder
* Counter is on 0:01 when Jack finally hits EXECUTE…the counter resets to 108:00

* Other Deaths
* Kelvin died waiting for his replacements

Black, White, and Red All Over

Sawyer’s Nicknames
* Calls Ana Sweetheart, Sister, Cupcake
* Calls Jin Chewy
* Calls The leader Other Shaft
* Calls Jin the quite Korean guy

* Other Nicknames
* Desmond calls Jack *******, Brother

Daddy/Raised by Another Issues
* Locke shows major issues with Cooper, clearly Stalking his residence in anger, not being able to let go

De Ja Vu/Repeat lines
* Locke outside his father’s house crying and hitting the steering wheel
* Helen: I couldn’t do it alone (to Locke)
Locke: I can't do this alone, Jack.
* Locke: I need your help (to Kate)
Kate: I need your help (to Sayid)
* Locke to hatch: Why is this happening like this? What do you want? What do you-- What am I supposed to do?! Why are you doing this!? (from end scene in DEM)
* Helen: That's why it's called a leap of faith, John.
Locke: It's a leap of faith, Jack.
* Helen to Locke: You don't have to be alone. (Rose to Charlie)
* Desmond to Jack: See you in another life, yeah?

Car Accidents/Tire Blowouts
* Helen hits the back of Locke’s car when she catches him in front of his father’s house

Master List of Boxes
* Sayid and Hurley carry a large trunk along the beach
* Helen gives Locke a key to her house in a small gift box
* The circuit breaker box in the hatch

New Names/Characters
* Introduce Helen: Locke’s girlfriend, also in anger management. Unsure if it’s the Helen we already know about
* Francine: Girl in anger management group that Locke thinks is overreacting in group therapy
* Dr. Candle: Man speaking in film
* Gerald and Karen Degroot: two researchers who created the Dharma Initiative

Mirrors
*Jack: You understand that what he's saying, it's...it's insane. It's impossible.
Locke: Why is it insane?
Jack: Because the last time I saw the computer that was gonna save the world, it didn't look like that.
Locke: Is the reason you're so upset because he said he recognized you? Because that would be impossible. (both saying the other is impossible, when in fact we know at least one thing is certain)
* Desmond, who talks of believeing in miracles in the stadium says to Jack: If by some miracle, you manage to get that computer working again, you gotta enter the code--4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. Hit "execute." - Again-- 4, 8, 15, 16--

Eye Openers
* No eye. Opens on beach scene. Locke-centric.

Photos

References to Titles During Episodes
* The film explaining the Dharma Industries was titled Orientation for the newcomers

Breakdowns/PTSD
* Locke in the car after his father leaves
* Jack in the jungle about his (ex)wife when Desmond asks him

Left vs Right
* The front door to the hatch is “down the corridor to the left”.

Health Issues/Injuries
* Sawyer stands up and gets knocked out by the leader of the group on the beach.
* Kate hits Desmond on the head with the butt of a gun
* Sawyer gets stabbed in his wounded shoulder when trying to look out of the pit
* Ana was knocked unconcious during the plane crash by a hard case
* Ana hits Sawyer in the face


Echoes

Bird Flapping Sounds

People/Places Mentioned
* B.F. Skinner
* Alvar Hanso

QUESTIONS
* In Walkabout on the phone, Helen says she doesn’t meet customers. Same Helen or different one?

Locke‘s Major Character-Defining Moments and Quotes
* Locke had been attending anger management classes for a month
* Locke smokes
* Francine feels a little too much, if you ask me. You all do. I mean, seriously."So and so never called me back", "my mother stole $30.00 from me." I never even knew who my parents were. Couple years ago, my, uh, my birth mother found me, and, uh, she told me...I was special. And, uh, through her, I met my real father. Great news, right? Well, he pretended to love me just long enough to steal my kidney because he had to have a transplant. And then he dropped me back in the world like a piece of trash, just like he did on the day that I was born. (Locke is shouting now) You want your damn $30 back! I want my kidney back!
* Cooper: John, I know you like to drive through my neighborhood. And I know that every now and then you like to park outside my house. Now I thought it might all stop when I moved, but, uh, here you are. Now I admit, at first I thought it was funny. Now it's just annoying. So how about you tell me what the hell it is you want?
Locke: Why?
Cooper: There is no "why." You think you're the first person that ever got conned? You needed a father figure, and I needed a kidney, and that's what happened. Get over it. And, John, don't come back. You're not wanted.
Cooper gets out of the car, Locke sits there after his father gets out of the car. He tries to control his emotions but he begins to cry and pound the steering wheel.
* Helen: I wasted 20 years of my life being angry. I told myself I would get over it, but I...I couldn't do it alone. I needed to find help. You helped me, John. And I can help you. You just have to promise me that you're not gonna go to that place anymore.
Locke: All right.
* Locke: Jack, please, don't leave me here.
Jack: Good-bye, John. - You're on your own.
Locke: Why is this happening like this? What do you want? What do you-- What am I supposed to do?!
* Helen: He's not coming out of his house, John, because he doesn't care. I know why you're here, why you keep coming here. You're scared. You're scared of moving forward--with me, with us. You're gonna have to choose. Him or me?
Locke: No, I can't! I don't know how.
Helen: Because you don't know what's gonna happen. None of us do. That's why it's called a leap of faith, John. You don't have to be alone.
* Locke: I can't do this alone, Jack.
Jack: I don't want to.
Locke: It's a leap of faith, Jack.

QUOTES
* Helen: Oh, hell. You just said everything I've always wanted to say in there. Most of the time,
I want to stand up and scream, "get over it, freaks."
* Desmond: Oh, what did you do? What did you do? We're all gonna die. We're all gonna die. I have to fix it.
* Desmond: Do I know you?
* Kate: There's gotta be a front door in this place.
Desmond: Down the corridor to the left. Be persistent, the wheel sticks
* Desmond: "What was all that about?" I say.
Kelvin: "Just savin' the world"
* Hurley: Dude, I gotta say, I didn't think we were gonna get through the night. And I wasn't even here for that baby stealing part. It's about time things are finally returning to normalness.
* Locke: We're gonna need to watch that again. (my favorite!!)
* Sawyer: We're about to be the best thing that ever happened to you. 'Cause next time Shaft opens the cage, he's gonna get a surprising little howdy doody.
* Desmond: I push this button every 108 minutes. I don't get out much. Kelvin died waiting for his replacements.
* Jack: It says "quarantine" on the inside of the hatch to keep you down here, keep you scared. Did you ever think that maybe they put you down here to push a button every hundred minutes just to see if you would-- that all of this-- the computer, the button-- it's just a mind game, an experiment?
* Ana Lucia: How come you didn't use it when they grabbed you?
Sawyer: Gosh, I guess I was too busy getting hit in the face with a club.
* Jack: Nothing is going to happen. Some man takes you down there, shows you a movie, and you push a button on--on faith alone. Nothing is going to happen!
* Hurley: (realizes that John has the last number wrong and decides it easier to let him use the wrong code than to argue) You know what? Forget it. Go ahead. Do your thing.
Suddenly we hear Jack, he’s come back to the dome.
Jack: It's not 32. It's 42. He just told me-- Desmond. The last number's 42.
* Locke: No, you saw the film, Jack. This is a--this is a 2-person job, at least.

Random
* When Kate hit Desmond, his gun fired a bullet into the computer
* Now two people that we know of have gotten to the island because their boat crashed, two people were knocked unconcious on the head by a case that hit them
* Book: Turn of the Screw
* Hurley and Sayid are now in the hatch
* Ana is friends with the Others, and was in the pit as a spy
* Add Desmond to the list of tripping people LOL
* Hurley realizes that John has the last number wrong and decides it easier to let him use the wrong code than to argue until Jack ruins it
* Locke wouldn’t hit execute, and wouldn’t let Sayid do it either. He soley wanted Jack to do it.

mama
10-05-2005, 11:28 AM
from www.dictionary.com

o·ri·en·ta·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôr-n-tshn, -n-, r-)
n.
The act of orienting or the state of being oriented.
Location or position relative to the points of the compass.
The construction of a church so that its longitudinal axis has an east-west direction with the main altar usually at the eastern end.
The direction followed in the course of a trend, movement, or development.
A tendency of thought; a general inclination: a Marxist orientation.
Sexual orientation.

An adjustment or adaptation to a new environment, situation, custom, or set of ideas.
Introductory instruction concerning a new situation: orientation for incoming students.
Psychology. Awareness of the objective world in relation to one's self.

o·ri·en·teer·ing ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôr-n-tîrng, -n-, r-)
n. Sports
A cross-country race in which competitors use a map and compass to find their way through unfamiliar territory.


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[Alteration of Swedish orientering, from orientera, to orient, from French orienter, from orient, east. See orient.]
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ori·en·teer n.

Bradislost
10-05-2005, 02:41 PM
Nice!

Naughty Paws
10-05-2005, 08:47 PM
Thanks, Mama!

Skybluelost
10-05-2005, 10:58 PM
from www.dictionary.com

o·ri·en·ta·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôr-n-tshn, -n-, r-)
n.
The act of orienting or the state of being oriented.
Location or position relative to the points of the compass.
The construction of a church so that its longitudinal axis has an east-west direction with the main altar usually at the eastern end.
The direction followed in the course of a trend, movement, or development.
A tendency of thought; a general inclination: a Marxist orientation.
Sexual orientation.

An adjustment or adaptation to a new environment, situation, custom, or set of ideas.
Introductory instruction concerning a new situation: orientation for incoming students.
Psychology. Awareness of the objective world in relation to one's self.

o·ri·en·teer·ing ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôr-n-tîrng, -n-, r-)
n. Sports
A cross-country race in which competitors use a map and compass to find their way through unfamiliar territory.


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[Alteration of Swedish orientering, from orientera, to orient, from French orienter, from orient, east. See orient.]
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ori·en·teer n.
luv your post, did not know about orienteering.... amamzing fits right alongside Desmond's trip around the world.... bratha....:-)
thanks again
skybluelost:-)

Naughty Paws
10-05-2005, 11:08 PM
Locke centric—opens on beach scene
Jin was saying “others”

5 new characters seen on island

FB
Locke at AA (?), coming for a month
Francine speaks of 20 dollars 930?)
Coupla years after the Kidney donation
Locke’s very angry
Locke smokes cigarettes, mentio of kidney cancer
“Get over it, freaks” –Helen from AA? ACOA?

Kate to the rescue!!!

Kate hit Desmond, who’s gun fires into the computer
Were all gonna die!!! --Desmond



097 000 on the wall
Oh, Locke got some!! Katey Segal’s character: Helen (looked like a hotel room)
Locke parks outside Cooper’s house, even after he moved…he’s stalking him
Copper says “it’s annoying.”
John: Why?
Cooper: There is no why. You think youre the first person to get conned? You needed a father figure and I needed a kidney. Get over it.
Breakdowns: Locke when Cooper told him to get LOST

Left v. right Front door: down the corridor and to the left.
Jack: We’re taking a time out
Solar race around the world 3 yrs ago.
Kelvin (?) brings Desmond down the hatch. Tells him he saved the world.
Time: 84 or 34?

Locke: His word is all we have, Jack

Film: Orientation



Vincent is back, playing ball with Hurley
BOX: carried by Sayid and Hurley
Sawyer says: There could be 100 of ‘em out there!
Injury: The wild man stabbed Sawyer through the cage cover.
Enter new Character: Female (Ana Lucia)

BOX: Projector
Jack: You sure seem calm for osmeone who believes the world is gonna end in 45 mins.
Locke says Desmond’s recognizing Jack would be impossible

Numbers: 3 out of 6 (film)
Dr. Marvin Candle for stations 3…..?
Numbers: History: 1970 Gerald and Karen Degute. U of Michigan
BF Skinner
Communal research compound for many sciences
Alvard Honso?
“The Swan” (symbol)
originally a lab for electromagnetic flux form the island
Numbers: Incident resulting in: every 108 mins a button must be pushed.
Numbers: 4 mins from alarm to put in code.
The future of the project is in your hands….Good Luch The Dharma Initiative.
Desmond was a lab rat and thought Locke was his replacement?




FB
Numbers: Locke was dating Helen 6 months
Keys: She got him a present, only cost a buck (Key to her place)
Condition: He doesn’t leave anymoe when he wants to sit in front of his father’s house
Numbers: Helen wasted 20 yrs of her life being angry.

Locke watches the film again…Jack doesn’t

Sawyer calls Ana Sister (sista)
Ana: Flight 815?
Major Find: Passenger from the tail end of the plane
Ana woke up under water, claims she hasn’t seen Walt
Sawyer to Ana: Were about to be the best thing that ever happened to you

Numbers above Jack’s head: ??
Jack senses the experiment
49:00
Desmond shorts the circuit
Breakdowns: Desmond flips when the time hits 48:00
Desmond: Give him my best (Sayid)
Locke: Where are you going?
Desmon: As far as I can run, brother
Desmond calls Locke Brotha
Repeat: this isnt what was supposed to happen!!!! (Locke)

Time is now at 47:00??? Incontinuity> time reversal?
Locke left alone in the hatch



FB
Helens place…shot of Locke’s scar
He goes to sit at Cooper’s house again and she catches him
Repeat: Why are you doing this? (Locke)
Helen: You’re scared of moving forward. You’re going to have to choose. Him or me.
Mirror: Locke was telling himself what he can’t do while Helen was telling him he can
Helen:That’s why it’s called a leap of faith Jonh. You don’t have to be alone”
Repeat: You don’t have to be alone (Rose?) helen to Locke

Repeat: I need your help (John to Kate)
Hurley finds the cupboard

Sawyer calls Ana Sweetheart
Injury: Ana punches Sawyer, she’s a traitor!!!!!
Ana’s with the Other guy


\

Jack catches Desmond in the jungle running away
What did he say about a miracle????
Jack: and you push a butotn on faith alone
Desmond: In 15 minutes:…
Jack: You don’t even know what you’re running from!!!!!!!
Desmond recognizes Jack from the stadium…he tells him he married the “girl” (Sarah)

Repeat: See you in another live, yeah? (Desmond)
Breakdowns: Jack with Desmond in the jungle, about his wife, Sarah

Time: 5:00
Kate finds the breaker, gets power back on
4 of them in the hatch: Kate, Hurley, Locke, and Sayid
Hurley hears the “code” tells him to STOP again
Locke puts in 4 8 15 16 23 32, Jack corrects him
Left v. right: lefft/right arrows directly above the EXECUTE key

Locke: This is a 2 person job, at least
Locke: Why do you find it so hard to believe
Jack: Why do you find it so easy?
Locke: It’s never been easy!
Locke: Im (not gonna?) do this alone. I don’t want to. It’s a leap of faith, Jack

Timer runs out: resets to 108

Skybluelost
10-06-2005, 08:30 PM
Locke centric—opens on beach scene
Jin was saying “others”

5 new characters seen on island

FB
Locke at AA (?), coming for a month
Francine speaks of 20 dollars 930?)
Coupla years after the Kidney donation
Locke’s very angry
Locke smokes cigarettes, mentio of kidney cancer
“Get over it, freaks” –Helen from AA? ACOA?

Kate to the rescue!!!

Kate hit Desmond, who’s gun fires into the computer
Were all gonna die!!! --Desmond



097 000 on the wall
Oh, Locke got some!! Katey Segal’s character: Helen (looked like a hotel room)
Locke parks outside Cooper’s house, even after he moved…he’s stalking him
Copper says “it’s annoying.”
John: Why?
Cooper: There is no why. You think youre the first person to get conned? You needed a father figure and I needed a kidney. Get over it.
Breakdowns: Locke when Cooper told him to get LOST

Left v. right Front door: down the corridor and to the left.
Jack: We’re taking a time out
Solar race around the world 3 yrs ago.
Kelvin (?) brings Desmond down the hatch. Tells him he saved the world.
Time: 84 or 34?

Locke: His word is all we have, Jack

Film: Orientation



Vincent is back, playing ball with Hurley
BOX: carried by Sayid and Hurley
Sawyer says: There could be 100 of ‘em out there!
Injury: The wild man stabbed Sawyer through the cage cover.
Enter new Character: Female (Ana Lucia)

BOX: Projector
Jack: You sure seem calm for osmeone who believes the world is gonna end in 45 mins.
Locke says Desmond’s recognizing Jack would be impossible

Numbers: 3 out of 6 (film)
Dr. Marvin Candle for stations 3…..?
Numbers: History: 1970 Gerald and Karen Degute. U of Michigan
BF Skinner
Communal research compound for many sciences
Alvard Honso?
“The Swan” (symbol)
originally a lab for electromagnetic flux form the island
Numbers: Incident resulting in: every 108 mins a button must be pushed.
Numbers: 4 mins from alarm to put in code.
The future of the project is in your hands….Good Luch The Dharma Initiative.
Desmond was a lab rat and thought Locke was his replacement?




FB
Numbers: Locke was dating Helen 6 months
Keys: She got him a present, only cost a buck (Key to her place)
Condition: He doesn’t leave anymoe when he wants to sit in front of his father’s house
Numbers: Helen wasted 20 yrs of her life being angry.

Locke watches the film again…Jack doesn’t

Sawyer calls Ana Sister (sista)
Ana: Flight 815?
Major Find: Passenger from the tail end of the plane
Ana woke up under water, claims she hasn’t seen Walt
Sawyer to Ana: Were about to be the best thing that ever happened to you

Numbers above Jack’s head: ??
Jack senses the experiment
49:00
Desmond shorts the circuit
Breakdowns: Desmond flips when the time hits 48:00
Desmond: Give him my best (Sayid)
Locke: Where are you going?
Desmon: As far as I can run, brother
Desmond calls Locke Brotha
Repeat: this isnt what was supposed to happen!!!! (Locke)

Time is now at 47:00??? Incontinuity> time reversal?
Locke left alone in the hatch



FB
Helens place…shot of Locke’s scar
He goes to sit at Cooper’s house again and she catches him
Repeat: Why are you doing this? (Locke)
Helen: You’re scared of moving forward. You’re going to have to choose. Him or me.
Mirror: Locke was telling himself what he can’t do while Helen was telling him he can
Helen:That’s why it’s called a leap of faith Jonh. You don’t have to be alone”
Repeat: You don’t have to be alone (Rose?) helen to Locke

Repeat: I need your help (John to Kate)
Hurley finds the cupboard

Sawyer calls Ana Sweetheart
Injury: Ana punches Sawyer, she’s a traitor!!!!!
Ana’s with the Other guy


\

Jack catches Desmond in the jungle running away
What did he say about a miracle????
Jack: and you push a butotn on faith alone
Desmond: In 15 minutes:…
Jack: You don’t even know what you’re running from!!!!!!!
Desmond recognizes Jack from the stadium…he tells him he married the “girl” (Sarah)

Repeat: See you in another live, yeah? (Desmond)
Breakdowns: Jack with Desmond in the jungle, about his wife, Sarah

Time: 5:00
Kate finds the breaker, gets power back on
4 of them in the hatch: Kate, Hurley, Locke, and Sayid
Hurley hears the “code” tells him to STOP again
Locke puts in 4 8 15 16 23 32, Jack corrects him
Left v. right: lefft/right arrows directly above the EXECUTE key

Locke: This is a 2 person job, at least
Locke: Why do you find it so hard to believe
Jack: Why do you find it so easy?
Locke: It’s never been easy!
Locke: Im (not gonna?) do this alone. I don’t want to. It’s a leap of faith, Jack

Timer runs out: resets to 108
wow that was great, no wonder u r keeper of the list...
skybluelost:-))

Naughty Paws
10-06-2005, 10:26 PM
awe thanks. that's the notes i take when i watch live. but then i go watch it agian to really injest and understand.
when i finish adrift, i will put this regular episode list in the first (and second probably) post here.
:biggrin:

Naughty Paws
10-12-2005, 08:20 PM
ok, the list is up in the first post of this thread.

i had to leave out the additions because they wouldn't fit.

darnit!!

here they are:

ADDITION: How Desmond came to the island…
Desmond: It was three years ago. I was on a solo race around the world, and my boat crashed into the reef, and then Kelvin came. He comes runnin' out the jungle. "Hurry, hurry, come with me." He brings me down here. First thing he does, 'cause it's beepin' already, he types in the code, he pushes the button, and it stops. "What was all that about?" I say. "Just savin' the world," he says. His words, not mine. So I started pushing the button, too. And we saved the world together for awhile, and that was lovely. Then Kelvin died, and now here I am all alone. The end.

ADDITION: Orientation
"The Dharma Initiative/3 of 6/Orientation", fades to the symbol on the crates in the supple closet followed by "Dharma logo/Orientation/Station 3/The Swan". This sequence fades and a doctor is speaking to the camera.
Dr. Candle: Welcome. I'm Dr. Candle and this is the orientation film for station 3 of the Dharma Initiative. In a moment, you'll be given a simple set of instructions for how you and your partner will fulfill the responsibilities associated with this station. But first, a little history. The Dharma Initiative was created in 1970 and is the brainchild of Gerald and Karen Degroot, two doctoral candidates at the university of Michigan. Following in the footsteps of visionaries such as B.F. Skinner—(film jumps to a clip of a college campus, circuit 1970 and focuses on a man and a woman in an office, voice over of Dr. Candle) ...imagined a large-scale communal research compound, where scientists and free thinkers from around the globe could pursue research in meteorology, psychology, parapsychology, zoology(they show a picture of two polar bears fighting), electromagnetism and utopian social-- ...reclusive Danish industrialist and munitions magnate Alvar Hanso, whose financial backing made their dream of a multipurpose...social science research facility a reality. (film jumps back to Dr. Candle) You and your partner are currently located in station 3-- or the swan-- and will be for the next 540 days. Now station 3 was originally constructed as a laboratory where scientists could work to understand the unique electromagnetic fluctuations emanating from this sector of the island. Not long after the experiments began, however, there was... an incident. And since that time, the following protocol has been observed. Every 108 minutes, the button must be pushed. From the moment the alarm sounds, you will have four minutes to enter the code into the microcomputer processor. ...induction into the program. When the alarm sounds, either you or your partner must input the code. It is highly recommended that you and your partner take alternating shifts. In this manner, you will both stay as fresh and alert--...utmost importance that when the alarm sounds, the code be entered correctly and in a timely fashion. Now do not attempt to use the computer for any-- Congratulations, until your replacements arrive, the future of the project is in your hands. On behalf of the Degroots, Alvar Hanso and all of us at the Dharma Initiative, thank you. Namaste. And...good luck. (film fades to black and the following disclaimer is shown) "The Hanso Foundation, 1980. All Rights Reserved."

Dragonlily
10-13-2005, 06:44 PM
Didn't Desmond take the stuffed bunny too? 5 things?
Or didn't he take it?

Skybluelost
10-14-2005, 03:24 PM
Didn't Desmond take the stuffed bunny too? 5 things?
Or didn't he take it?
he took the bunny...
skybluelost:-)

granulated
10-15-2005, 06:23 AM
i posted to wrong episode !! ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooops !!!

Skybluelost
10-15-2005, 01:38 PM
i posted to wrong episode !! ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooops !!!
ur forgiven...lol...
skybluelost:-(