Another weird, weird connection between Hurley and Locke has just been revealed.

What?? Randy was hurleys boss?? Seriously?? If thats true, then if hurley really owns lockes box company, then he is Randys boss. Kinda. right...

Anybody else notice that Locke called Hurley "Hugo" THREE times? I was screaming at the TV, "Dude, ask him how he knows your name!!!"

Was Randy Hurley's friend in the flashbacks? Because if so, he is definitely NOT Locke's boss.

Are you saying its the same guy, or they both had bosses named Randy? Cause if you mean the first one, thats not the same guy

No, in the flashbacks, Randy was Hurley's boss at Mr. Cluck's. If that really is the same guy though, that's weird because they looked nothing alike.

Randy was the name of Hurley's boss. I don't think that it was the same Randy, just had the same name.

Randy was the boss at Mr. Kluk's.

He's also the boss of Locke in "Walkabout."

Definately the same guy.

Yeah you notice that happens a lot in these threads ....wonder why.

Two people who don't anything a like and don't have the same name,...but yet people feel compelled to post a theory that they are one and the same.

Couldnt be, cause Locke worked at the box company around the same time Hurley hit the lottery, so you mean to tell me Randy works two jobs and is both those guys bosses? It didnt even look like him

Anybody else notice that Locke called Hurley "Hugo" THREE times? I was screaming at the TV, "Dude, ask him how he knows your name!!!"

I noticed EVERYBODY calling him Hugo tonight. Rose did. I'm pretty sure Jack did too. As I recall, the only person Hurley told his real name to was Jack. Not like people talk or anything. :biggrin: But I did pick up on them using Hugo instead of Hurley tonight.

Same Guy playing Randy - The boss of Locke & Hurley

Walkabout....
Originally aired: Wednesday October 13, 2004 on ABC

Writer: [David Fury
Director: [Jack Bender
Guest Stars: [Meilinda Soerjo] (Chrissy) , John Simon Jones (http://www.tv.com/john-simon-jones/person/40888/summary.html)(Travel Agent) , Billy Ray Gallion (Randy) , Stephen J. Rafferty](Warren)
Production Code: 103

Everybody Hates Hugo
Originally aired: Wednesday October 12, 2005 on ABC
Writer: Adam Horowitz, Edward Kitsis
Director: Alan Taylor
Guest Stars: Raj K. Bose (Pakistani shop clerk) , DJ Qualls(Johnny) , Billy Ray Gallion (Randy) , Marguerite Moreau[ (Starla) ,Kimberley Joseph (Flight Attendant) , Lillian Hurst[Carmen) , Sam Anderson (Bernard)

It's kind a funny you guys don't realize what a haircut and a shave will do for you.

i thought they looked very much alike. once we found out his name was randy too...icing on the cake.

Same Guy playing Randy - The boss of Locke & Hurley

Walkabout....
Originally aired: Wednesday October 13, 2004 on ABC

Writer: David Fury (http://www.tv.com/david-fury/person/368/summary.html)
Director: Jack Bender (http://www.tv.com/jack-bender/person/8024/summary.html)
Guest Stars: Meilinda Soerjoko (http://www.tv.com/meilinda-soerjoko/person/322991/summary.html) (Chrissy) , John Simon Jones (http://www.tv.com/john-simon-jones/person/40888/summary.html) (Travel Agent) , Billy Ray Gallion (http://www.tv.com/billy-ray-gallion/person/50882/summary.html) (Randy) , Stephen J. Rafferty (http://www.tv.com/stephen-j.-rafferty/person/327203/summary.html) (Warren)
Production Code: 103

Everybody Hates Hugo
Originally aired: Wednesday October 12, 2005 on ABC
Writer: Adam Horowitz (http://www.tv.com/adam-horowitz/person/30634/summary.html), Edward Kitsis (http://www.tv.com/edward-kitsis/person/30633/summary.html)
Director: Alan Taylor (http://www.tv.com/alan-taylor/person/23783/summary.html)
Guest Stars: Raj K. Bose (http://www.tv.com/raj-k.-bose/person/394783/summary.html) (Pakistani shop clerk) , DJ Qualls (http://www.tv.com/dj-qualls/person/108414/summary.html) (Johnny) , Billy Ray Gallion (http://www.tv.com/billy-ray-gallion/person/50882/summary.html) (Randy) , Marguerite Moreau (http://www.tv.com/marguerite-moreau/person/19800/summary.html) (Starla) , Kimberley Joseph (http://www.tv.com/kimberley--joseph/person/394782/summary.html) (Flight Attendant) , Lillian Hurst (http://www.tv.com/lillian-hurst/person/11336/summary.html) (Carmen) , Sam Anderson (http://www.tv.com/sam-anderson/person/768/summary.html) (Bernard)
Production Code: 204

Where did this come from?

http://www.tv.com/lost/everybody-hates-hugo/episode/486481/summary.html

http://www.tv.com/lost/walkabout/episode/350765/summary.html

Oh My Goodness!! I just checked the cast listings of Walkabout and Everybody Hates Hurley and both featured an actor named Billy Ray Gallion in the role of Randy! Great catch, Bobby! Makes you wonder...

Check out the following link for Billy Ray Gallion and it will show that he played the same character in BOTH episodes:

http://www.tv.com/billy-ray-gallion/person/50882/appearances.html

Yeah you notice that happens a lot in these threads ....wonder why.

Two people who don't anything a like and don't have the same name,...but yet people feel compelled to post a theory that they are one and the same.

Whats with the snide comments?

Dudes - the reason they think it is the same person is... because it is.
Played by the same actor and the character has the same name -- don't know why they would think its the same person though... crazy nuts!
Billy Ray Gallion= um.. Billy Ray Gallion who plays Randy and Randy.

He is not credited at IMDB with the Walkabout episode. He is credited with tonites however. Hmmm, I wonder why not

Well, pass the humble pie..I was wrong....they were both jerks, so I guess it shouldn't be that surprising.

That being said, there are still too many of these false double threads.

It's kind a funny you guys don't realize what a haircut and a shave will do for you.


Actually, I remember thinking that it kinda looked like a wig to me...

OHHH Great catch!!!! I didn't notice!!! The plot thickens!!
Thanks!
Jami

Yeah you notice that happens a lot in these threads ....wonder why.

Two people who don't anything a like and don't have the same name,...but yet people feel compelled to post a theory that they are one and the same.

Oh it most definitely IS the same guy! He looks exactly like Locke's boss- minus the goatee, but still with the same snarky attitude- and his name is Randy. It would be weirder to think that the writers would give two different rude bosses the same name.

Definitely a good catch on the part of those who caught it! ;) My husband yelled out- "THAT'S LOCKE'S BOSS!" the second he showed on the screen tonight. :D I didn't believe him at first either, but we rewound it and were as sure as we could be that it was him. Then when we heard Hurley's friend refer to him as "Randy", we knew for certain!

nice, i just caught that, too on the second watch!
awesome!
wonder now about the box company, too

Weird... guess Randy's moving up in the world... or down.

Hurley must have won the lottery a little earlier since we know Randy was Locke's boss right before he went to Australia. Hmmm.

Ah, true newfgirl. Guess his people skillz got him the box company job. :p

My husband yelled out- "THAT'S LOCKE'S BOSS!"

That was me screaming to my son.

He looks exactly like Locke's boss- minus the goatee, but still with the same snarky attitude- and his name is Randy.

That is what I thought. But as we know he worked at the box company before Locke went to Austrailia. So Randy must had managed the chicken place before then.

Any thoughts?

Remember, Hugo won the lottery about a year before all this happened.

And also, when I saw it at first...I had to do a double take because he looked so familiar...and then it hit me.

It's a couple of years or so in between Hurley winning the lottery and Locke's time at the Box company. There's lots of crazy things that happen on this show, but someone moving from one job to another over the course of two or more years (or even two or more months) is far from the craziest.

Well, I guess Randy did need to look for a new job when the Chicken Shack got hit by the meteor, well meteorite. Must have found one at the box factory

great catch! Do we know what states the box company and mr. clucks are located in?

He is not credited at IMDB with the Walkabout episode. He is credited with tonites however. Hmmm, I wonder why not

Because IMDB is one of the most UNRELIABLE sources of information. Take everything you read there with a grain of salt, it's user editable. The guest credits for Adrift changed 5 times the day Adrift first aired.

The irony of Hurley ending up Randys' boss, and not knowing it probably. Actually, i guess he was Hurley was Lockes' boss as well.

Maybe Hurley gave Randy the job at the box factory because he
felt guilty about the meteorite. You know, he said the numbers gave
everyone around him bad luck.

Guilt will make you do weird things, even give hateful ex-bosses a new job.

OK, so the Chicken Shack gets taken out by a meteorite....Hurley feels responsible, so he gives all the Cluckers (ummm Randy) new jobs at his "Box Factory".



*edit* beat me to it pengbear

Since everything happens for a reason on this show.... what is the significance other than a fun coincidence?

If I were Hurley, I woulda bought Mr. Cluck's just so I could FIRE Randy


Yeah, me too. After I gave out 20 napkins and free chicken to ANYBODY who walked in off the street.

Jerk Randy. I swear, I've worked for him before.

First post here, but I remembered something while reading this thread.
After Hurley had first won the lotto, he was talking with his stock broker (I'm assuming), and I think the broker was telling Hurley that a lot of his stocks were doing badly except for some little box company somewhere. I can't remember all the details, but does anyone else remember that conversation? So was that Locke's box company then?

Since everything happens for a reason on this show.... what is the significance other than a fun coincidence?


THAT is the question. Maybe it's an example of the writers sitting around and one of them saying, "Hey let's really mess with them (us) and make Locke's boss, Hurley's boss too. For no reason whatsoever...ha ha ha ha "

THAT is the question. Maybe it's an example of the writers sitting around and one of them saying, "Hey let's really mess with them (us) and make Locke's boss, Hurley's boss too. For no reason whatsoever...ha ha ha ha "

LOL B&L! I was thinking the same thing - the purpose is to see us all go ape-s*** on the message boards!

While I guess it has never been officially confirmed, the consensus is that Locke worked for Hurley's box company in Tustin, CA

I don't believe that is the same Randy,

You can got to http://lost-media.com . There they have every episode of lost, with still pictures of every seen in the show.

When you confirm it is not the same Randy, then please let us know. I would go check myself, but I am too darn tired. Please let us know who was right. :starwars:

I don't believe that is the same Randy,

You can got to http://lost-media.com . There they have every episode of lost, with still pictures of every seen in the show.

When you confirm it is not the same Randy, then please let us know. I would go check myself, but I am too darn tired. Please let us know who was right. :starwars:

Trust me - its the same person. This was confirmed on the spoiler boards weeks ago.

If you need more info - check yourself.

** note- secretarial skills not on my resume.

Maybe Hurley gave Randy the job at the box factory because he
felt guilty about the meteorite. You know, he said the numbers gave
everyone around him bad luck.

Guilt will make you do weird things, even give hateful ex-bosses a new job.

Thats what I was thinking...Maybe with all the bad luck he would think doing a good deed for a bad guy might change his luck (although Hurley was unaware he even owned a box company, right?)

Also, once again he said he WON 156 million, after he told Jack two weeks ago he won 114.

THAT is the question. Maybe it's an example of the writers sitting around and one of them saying, "Hey let's really mess with them (us) and make Locke's boss, Hurley's boss too. For no reason whatsoever...ha ha ha ha "

They do that A LOT. Just look at all the tidbits of false or misleading information they give us in the form of websites, etc. Just think about the preview from last week that had Jin talking perfect english. Yes Jin did speak english... but it was in Hurley's dream.

They give us just enough rope for us to hang ourselves on. They know that if they give us a small pebble... we'll blow it up into a boulder.

That's all part of the fun though. We get to guess and hypothesize on what will happen next.

Are we sure the name given showing the guy played both roles is correct? We've had quite a few wrongly named actors on some Lost sites. Do we have second confirmation on that?

Also if it is true then it may not mean anything. Reusing actors isnt at all uncommon. Hell, this show has even switched extras around at the last moment, changing their roles.

But being as how this is Lost I wouldnt doubt I soon eat my words.

Thats what I was thinking...Maybe with all the bad luck he would think doing a good deed for a bad guy might change his luck (although Hurley was unaware he even owned a box company, right?)

Also, once again he said he WON 156 million, after he told Jack two weeks ago he won 114.

Ohhhh good point. It was mentioned he owned a box company. I guess that depends on the timeline of when Hurley won the lottery.

Wasnt there another actress who played two different roles last season? The girl that sold Hurley the lottery ticket and she was the woman in Outlaws as well (and incidentally Harold Perrineau's wife in real life!)

Here's the boss from Walkabout.

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=22&pos=291

I don't have a cap of Randy from tonight's episode.

C'mon people.... it's the same actor, same name... SAME character. Even if it's not incredibly significant, it falls right in line with what the producers were saying about connections between the characters becoming more and more common as we find out abut them.

It's funny, AND it might one day mean something.

Here...

http://lost.cubit.net/pics/randyvsrandy.jpg

Here's the boss from Walkabout.

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=22&pos=291

I don't have a cap of Randy from tonight's episode.

Hahaha, is that an Apollo Bar in his hand?? LOL

Maybe people know Hurley's name is Hugo from the manifest? I don't recall if anyone other than Hurley and Sawyer looked at the manifest, but I would think that is possible. (Sorry if this is in the wrong thread -- I was just reading the earlier posts).

Also, once again he said he WON 156 million, after he told Jack two weeks ago he won 114.

He told Charlie he was WORTH 156 million dollars. Remember the accountant telling Hurley that he had made a ton of money since winning the lottery.

114 ---> 156

Incidentally, Hurley made FORTY TWO million dollars. ;)

Great catch! The chicken place was hit by a meteor, uh meteorite, and the box company burned - right"

Actually the sneaker factory in Canada burned down, not the box company. :)

man, these are some killer catches! my memory sucks -- y'all are killing me with your ability to just flip back in your mental televisions and quote an episode, or place a character's line to a specifc episode, etc.

i've been staring at those juxtaposed Randy pics for 5 minutes straight, and i canNOT tell if it's the same guy or not. Locke's Randy looks haggard -- scruffy, with bags under his eyes, bushy eyebrows, etc. Hugo's Randy looks younger, his features somehow..."tighter" or something. not the kinds of things i'd attribute to make-up, either. the bags, for example, look like the kind you're either born with or not -- not the kind you get from not getting enough rest.

anyhoo...i'll go back to staring now...:drowsy:

He told Charlie he was WORTH 156 million dollars. Remember the accountant telling Hurley that he had made a ton of money since winning the lottery.

114 ---> 156

Incidentally, Hurley made FORTY TWO million dollars. ;)

Im gonna check you on that, I swore he corrected Charlie saying he won 156, I just think its hard to believe (and maybe its just me) that in under a year you can almost make 42 million dollars. its not like you get the money all at once, maybe he WON 156 but actually got 114 after taxes, now I'd be able to believe that

man, these are some killer catches! my memory sucks -- y'all are killing me with your ability to just flip back in your mental televisions and quote an episode, or place a character's line to a specifc episode, etc.

i've been staring at those juxtaposed Randy pics for 5 minutes straight, and i canNOT tell if it's the same guy or not. Locke's Randy looks haggard -- scruffy, with bags under his eyes, bushy eyebrows, etc. Hugo's Randy looks younger, his features somehow..."tighter" or something. not the kinds of things i'd attribute to make-up, either. the bags, for example, look like the kind you're either born with or not -- not the kind you get from not getting enough rest.

anyhoo...i'll go back to staring now...:drowsy:

I feel the same way. I know they have the same names, but check out their ears. Lockes boss has earlobes that hang, while Hurley's boss' earlobes are clearly connected. *thats it, Ive officially gone off the deep end!*

Im gonna check you on that, I swore he corrected Charlie saying he won 156, I just think its hard to believe (and maybe its just me) that in under a year you can almost make 42 million dollars. its not like you get the money all at once, maybe he WON 156 but actually got 114 after taxes, now I'd be able to believe that

Well I checked "Numbers" before I posted and Hurley definitely says "worth" 156 million dollars. And in tonight's episode Charlie says "worth" too. Check it out. ;)

It's definetely the same guy, good catch! I thought he looked kind of familiar when I was tuned in earlier tonight, but I didn't make the connection...

Also, that comparative pic might be misleading because the still from tonight's episode is stretched horizontally, making his face look wider than it should.

Wow, that sounds freaky! I just want to push a pie in that smart azz's face
who is taunting Locke!! Whether same boss or not, he is a total creep!!

For the love of god...just click on the link to the actor's website that was posted on page 2 of this thread!!
http://www.tv.com/billy-ray-gallion/person/50882/appearances.html

Also, that comparative pic might be misleading because the still from tonight's episode is stretched horizontally, making his face look wider than it should.

I replaced the image, same link, with a non-stretched version. I have a widescreen TV, but no HD, so I have my TV set to the stretch mode by default. Fixed it now: http://lost.cubit.net/pics/randyvsrandy.jpg

I was thinking the exact same thing. It has to be the same dude. I recognized his mouth. lol Is that weird?

I recognized his mouth too! I remember thinking he was a cutie in the first episode he was in and I recognized him right away tonight.

LOL! His attitude very much turned me off.

Right when I saw Hurley's boss tonight I said to myself, hey that looks like Randy, Locke's boss. When they said his name on this episode was Randy I was like, whoa it is him. Crazy.

I'm going to take the comparison pic and draw a soul patch, and beard on Randy (locke's boss) hehe hope this works..

But it does look like they have the same undereye bags, nose.. Yeah I do think they're the same guy.

It's a bad job.. but makes them look a bit more alike. :P


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/ambersumiko/randyvsrandy.jpg

First post here, but I remembered something while reading this thread.
After Hurley had first won the lotto, he was talking with his stock broker (I'm assuming), and I think the broker was telling Hurley that a lot of his stocks were doing badly except for some little box company somewhere. I can't remember all the details, but does anyone else remember that conversation? So was that Locke's box company then?

yes, it was the company Locke was at...thats why there's almost a running joke about all the times a box company is mentioned.....the only thing is I don't think Hurley was even aware about his ownership in the company from their conversation...maybe though he was just distracted with all the bad luck around him...nice catch on the same character btw...lol that guy deserved more than to be told off with lawn gnomes

Well, I guess Randy did need to look for a new job when the Chicken Shack got hit by the meteor, well meteorite. Must have found one at the box factory
That's exactly what I was thinking too! Ironic though that the meteorite (Hurley believes that he caused) hit his former place of employment and then his hated boss ends up working for him. Evidently, it wasn't a "come to Jesus" moment for Randy though as he was as nasty or nastier when he was working for the box company. :)

I think it's more than just a coincedence that the same guy was both Hurley & Locke's boss. I bet the dude works for Hanso and was part of the Dharma project. Randy's job was to push both of them to make decisions....decisions that the Dharma group have been studying for years.

;)

it is the same guy....then where is the timeline there?
Hurley's job scene must take place before Locke's work scene.

In the first season it was said that Hurley's box company was doing very well. This would imply that they were hiring (i.e. you expand when business is good). Randy could have simply been one of the people hired. Randy had experience in managing people.

The dual boss thing could work from a Locke perspective as well, with Randy (the new guy in the company) becoming Locke's boss (even though Locke is older and arguably more experienced, nicer and professional) which would fit into the *everything in Locke's life simply sucked pre-island* theme.

Maybe Hurley gave Randy the job at the box factory because he
felt guilty about the meteorite. You know, he said the numbers gave
everyone around him bad luck.

Guilt will make you do weird things, even give hateful ex-bosses a new job.

Bingo! Give that man a prize!

Randy must have been one of those people looking for a handout, allowing everyone to hate Hugo!

Bingo! Give that man a prize!

Ahh I dont know about that Hurley seemed surprised that he even owned a box factory when he was talking to his accountant.

Of course we also don't know the exact timeline here... but I am just going by that original conversation.

About the timeline...

Well, Hurley won the lottery about a year before the crash. Locke's office scene was right before the crash. So, there is almost a year for Randy to leave Mr. Cluck's and begin working at the box factory and grow his hair out.

As to the 156 million vs. 114 million, someone asked Jorge Garcia about that over on his threads a while back and he said Hurley had made some investments.

Also, once again he said he WON 156 million, after he told Jack two weeks ago he won 114.

I think he did win 114 million but due to his investments and lawsuit with the police that he is now (or at least at the time of the crash) worth 156 million. I believe that would be the reason for the discrepency.

edited to add: I just read farther on down in the thread and saw that someone else posted the same thing, so just ignore me. I'm still half asleep!!

Not only did I think that they looked alike, I thought they both had the same prickish attitude. I can't way to see more of this Randy character and something bad happening to him. You know, like Hugo discovering he's a boss/manager at the box company he has so much stock in and firing him, promoting Locke to be in a higher position...something good where Randy can't get even (unemployment with being fired), but will want to quit, such as Locke being promoted above him.

I was going to scream when I didn't see this on the first page but then I saw it at the very bottom with many, many replies already. I never notice anything first and was going to be surprised if it happened last night. It seemed really apparent to me...

I think he did win 114 million but due to his investments and lawsuit with the police that he is now (or at least at the time of the crash) worth 156 million. I believe that would be the reason for the discrepency.

edited to add: I just read farther on down in the thread and saw that someone else posted the same thing, so just ignore me. I'm still half asleep!!

I thought they mentioned the huge surge in his worth was due to the insurance money from the Sneaker factory burning down. I remember it was a sequence where Hurley is thinking the more money he has the worse off he is, and he was happy to hear the factory burned down from his accountant (his luck had changed), but then moments later he was a bit miffed to find out he MADE money on it due to being overinsured for it. He might have banged his head against the window or something. The accountant didn't understand why he was so upset about making money...

Wasnt there another actress who played two different roles last season? The girl that sold Hurley the lottery ticket and she was the woman in Outlaws as well (and incidentally Harold Perrineau's wife in real life!)

Diabolo, we don't know that those were two different roles. But yes, Harold's wife plays the Lotto Girl and the girl seen with Sawyer when he encounters Hibbs. It's possible it's the same character.

I thought they mentioned the huge surge in his worth was due to the insurance money from the Sneaker factory burning down. I remember it was a sequence where Hurley is thinking the more money he has the worse off he is, and he was happy to hear the factory burned down from his accountant (his luck had changed), but then moments later he was a bit miffed to find out he MADE money on it due to being overinsured for it. He might have banged his head against the window or something. The accountant didn't understand why he was so upset about making money...
You are so right. He did make a fortune off of the insurance money for the shoe factory. I think the investment advisor (or whatever the heck he is) said the factory was actually over insured. I had totally forgotten about that.

I thought Hurley felt responsible for the meteorite hitting Mr.Clucks :52:, so he gave everyone a new job at one of his companies. So, manager Randy goes to the box company .

Ahh I dont know about that Hurley seemed surprised that he even owned a box factory when he was talking to his accountant.

Of course we also don't know the exact timeline here... but I am just going by that original conversation.


He could still have given Randy a job and not known about the box company. As much as Hurley seems to know about his investments (not much it seems) it seems rational that he would have told his accountant or someone else helping him with his finances to "take care" of the people from the restaurant by giving them jobs at his companies (not even knowing what they are).

He is not credited at IMDB with the Walkabout episode. He is credited with tonites however. Hmmm, I wonder why not

Because IMDB is not reliable whatsoever. I can post that Diablo237 played the box of candybars without the DHARMA logo on IMDB.

Hurley's boss: http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=748&pos=189

Locke's boss: http://www.lost-tv.com/pictures/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=120

Enjoy.

Thanks for the caps. I would have never noticed. Besides the mouth, they look nothing alike to me. Oh well, guess I'm easily fooled by a haircut and a shave. ;)

http://www.losthatch.com/transcripts.aspx

Ken: I would think you'd be happy. Every 1 of your stocks is up. Your interest in orange futures skyrocketed after those tropical storms hit Florida. And, you are now the majority shareholder in a box company in Tustin.

Hurley: A box company?

Ken: Mmhmm. They make boxes, lucrative business. Everybody needs boxes. Which reminds me, your sneaker company in Canada...

Hurley: I have a sneaker company in Canada?

Ken: Well, not any more. It was destroyed in a fire last month.

Hurley: Of course it was.

Ken: You might have read about it 8 something people died. But, the good news is we over insured it. It's going to yield you a windfall of cash. And, when we add in the generous settlement from the LAPD for your false arrest you almost doubled your net worth in a few short months. I still can't imagine how the police mistook you for a drug dealer.

Hurley: Bad luck.

Maybe Hurley gave Randy the job at the box factory because he
felt guilty about the meteorite. You know, he said the numbers gave
everyone around him bad luck.

Guilt will make you do weird things, even give hateful ex-bosses a new job.

That's what I was thinking. Maybe after meteorite tore up Mr. Clucks, Hurley felt sorry for Randy.

I wonder how long TPTB will let us stew over this - afterall, we still don't know how Locke got in a wheelchair. I guess the theory that all the lostaways are connected in someway is proving to be true..

Randy + Randy = http://lost.cubit.net/pics/randyvsrandy.jpg

You guys are SO gullible.

Just because Hurley owned a box company and Locke worked for one and they both had bosses named Randy and both were played by Billy Ray Gallion you automatically assume it's the same character.

...wait a sec.

You guys are SO gullible.

Just because Hurley owned a box company and Locke worked for one and they both had bosses named Randy and both were played by Billy Ray Gallion you automatically assume it's the same character.

...wait a sec.
LOL!

talk about beating a dead horse! 10 pages worth of people trying to figure out whether or not it was the same "Randy". c'mon, it obviously was. and we all know that the characters are all intertwined, one way or another as this is not the first time there's been a coinkydink like this, especially involving Hurley.

just a thought - Hurley doesn't know it, but his luck may not be all bad. if his buddy didn't quit his job at the same time that Hurley did, maybe he woulda been working at the time the meteorite hit? its almost like one of those "god works in mysterious ways" type of things. however, there is no silver lining in his grandfather dying, so i'm probably wrong.

It's a bad job.. but makes them look a bit more alike. :P
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/ambersumiko/randyvsrandy.jpg

:rotflmao:awesome artwork! I'm still laughing... ok.. yes I would say that they're the same person - but your version of him is better than the real one:biggrin:

You guys are SO gullible.

Just because Hurley owned a box company and Locke worked for one and they both had bosses named Randy and both were played by Billy Ray Gallion you automatically assume it's the same character.

...wait a sec.
:Jumpy:

I'm most amused by how hard it is for some people to believe that Randy could be in one job and then a year or so later have another job. I wouldn't be surprised to see Randy working at some other company in someone else's flashback one day.

My feeling is that it won't end up meaning anything beyond showing that there are coincidences and connections among all the characters. When casting for the role, I'm sure someone said "Hey.... let's get the guy that played Locke's boss". Down the line, this may have significance, but I liken it more to this being like a prop that they stick in more than one scene just to see if eagle-eyed viewers (read: viewers with no lives) will pick up on it.

And I say viewers with no lives lovingly, because I'm one of you. I think ABC needs to do an After-School special on the dangers of over-analyzing a TV show...

My husband was asking if Randy was Locke's BOSS, or just a coworker....I couldn't remember the episode well enough to say definitely that he was his boss. Can someone verify that, with specific justification? Thanks.

it is the same guy,,,the beard is misleading, but it is the same guy!!

My husband was asking if Randy was Locke's BOSS, or just a coworker....I couldn't remember the episode well enough to say definitely that he was his boss. Can someone verify that, with specific justification? Thanks.

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I'm most amused by how hard it is for some people to believe that Randy could be in one job and then a year or so later have another job. I wouldn't be surprised to see Randy working at some other company in someone else's flashback one day.


How funny would it be if it turned out that Kate was married to him?

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To answer your question, I don't think it was ever stated that Randy was Lockes boss but certainly inferred. He had the authority to tell Locke what to do, access to his personnel records and Locke refrained from telling him off until he quit. At the very least the only way he should have access to his records is if he is his boss or works in HR (which didn't seem to be the case)

I was thinking that Hurley might have bought Mr. Clucks and because it was hit by a metorite, he made Randy go to work for him at the box company he ownned - a step down for Mr. Know It All. Maybe...

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To answer your question, I don't think it was ever stated that Randy was Lockes boss but certainly inferred. He had the authority to tell Locke what to do, access to his personnel records and Locke refrained from telling him off until he quit. At the very least the only way he should have access to his records is if he is his boss or works in HR (which didn't seem to be the case)

Thank you for the info both on Randy as Locke's boss, and on the bumping. I just figured a bump was better than starting a new thread; maybe I was wrong. Anyway, thanks for the answer. :)

Thank you for the info both on Randy as Locke's boss, and on the bumping. I just figured a bump was better than starting a new thread; maybe I was wrong. Anyway, thanks for the answer. :)

A bump's as good as a nod to a blind bat! Eh! Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more!

All of this ties in with 4 - Four degrees of separation.

maybe randy has a twin.

maybe randy has a twin.

Named Randy. Maybe they're the real life versions of my brother Darryl and my other brother Darryl?

I don't get how he goes from being Mr Clucks store manager to Box Company manager.

Randy is Hurley's manager at Mr Clucks, then when Hurley owns that box company, Randy works there? So then that means that Hurley is Randy's boss. How ironic and funny.

Maybe Randy begged to Hurley for money and Hurley made Randy work for him.

I don't get how he goes from being Mr Clucks store manager to Box Company manager.
I know this may be an off the wall impossibility, but maybe there was a job opening and he applied for it?

they're not recycling randys

I know this may be an off the wall impossibility, but maybe there was a job opening and he applied for it?

WANTED: Our growing company needs a shift supervisor in accounts recevable department. Managerial experience a must, 2+ years preferred. Must have excellent people skills and be willing to double as loss-prevention manager for the office supply cabinet. Call 1-800-BOX-4YOU

:biggrin:

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yes we do :mad: frown upon that, but seriously, nasty? :rolleyes:
that only comes after people disregard our politely pointing out the posting error. ;)

Is it possible that yes, it is the same actor playing both roles, but even though they are both named Randy, they are perhaps different characters? It seems like Locks Randy is a younger guy then Hurlys.
Remember the twins on the ship that kidnaped Walt? Maybe the two Randys fit in that way. I remeber one of the producers..forget who..said there was something to the fact that there were twins on that boat. Maybe that all ties in with Hanso?

It is the same guy, i checked the credits and it was the same actor ( for randy the boss)

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yes we do :mad: frown upon that, but seriously, nasty? :rolleyes:
that only comes after people disregard our politely pointing out the posting error. ;)

yea, I learned my lesson, I shall never bump again!

did that sound weird??

Maybe he changed jobs after a meteor hit his chicken shop.:grin:

they're not recycling randys
So, I'm assuming it was the same actor playing 2 different characters then? It wouldn't be the first time ;).

Same actor, same character name... I think he must be the same character. It would explain his extremely poor attitude toward Locke if he was walking around ticked off all the time that his former employee had millions.

I'm pretty sure that it's the same character, but maybe Randy didn't know Hurley was his boss. It didn't sound like Hurley went over to check out his box company very much. :smile:

I'm pretty sure that it's the same character, but maybe Randy didn't know Hurley was his boss. It didn't sound like Hurley went over to check out his box company very much. :smile:
yeah, it's gotta be the same character. I agree that it's also very likely that Hurley didn't know Randy worked there. Randy must have needed to find a new job when the meteor (or meteorite) hit Mr. Clucks :biggrin:

I have to agree. Hurley said, "I own a box company?" Like he didn't know. Plus I just looked at both scenes and Locke/Hurley's boss is pretty much an )*#*&($ in both. Knew a lot of guys like that back in the day. But that connects them right. Like Shannon and Jack are connected thru Shannon's dead father. Anyone know if there's a thread discussing a common thread between all of them?

Merging with existing thread. :)

I know this may be an off the wall impossibility, but maybe there was a job opening and he applied for it?


LOL...

That's pretty funny. But seriously, there has to be a logical explanation for how somoene could be working at a chicken restaurant one day, and a box factory a year or so later. Perhaps the boxes they put the chicken in came from Hurley's box factory. And Randy saw the name of the box company in his paperwork. How else could he possibly know about the box company? Like we're supposed to believe this box company posts it's openings in the newspaper or on Monster.com or something? *

There HAS to be some long drawn-out explanation for this. People don't just get jobs at two different types of companies over the course of their lives.







* darkpiranha is in no way affiliated with Monster.com or any of its affiliates.

Here...

http://lost.cubit.net/pics/randyvsrandy.jpg

Thank you!

Could he possibly be Desmond? If you gave him more hair and a different accent, he does remind me of Desmond.

He does look like he could be his kid brother or something, but it couldn't be him, cause he was Lockes boss right before Locke left for the walkabout. Desmond supposedly has been there for awhile...

He does look like he could be his kid brother or something, but it couldn't be him, cause he was Lockes boss right before Locke left for the walkabout. Desmond supposedly has been there for awhile...

He could be a twin, like the twins on the Other's boat.

Well just have a look at the actors file and you'll be convinced it's the same guy:
[check under: 'Notable TV Guest Appearances', he's in both episodes playing randy]

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0302965/

... so he might also be in episode 3.04... just kidding ;)

Great catch! In the DVD commentary for 'Hearts & Minds', the producers talked about the way all of these characters on the island had crossed paths long before they were on the island. They mentioned how they turned the show into a bit of a Where's Waldo game for us to spot the connections, and that they planned on including more. So this is yet another interesting connection that ties Locke and Hurley together! I suppose the big question is why. Why are all of these people so closely connected like this that they all ended up on this particularly strange island?

yea, I learned my lesson, I shall never bump again!

did that sound weird??

I dunno... R. Kelly didn't see anything wrong with a little bump and grind.... :biggrin: Ok, sorry 'bout that.


There HAS to be some long drawn-out explanation for this. People don't just get jobs at two different types of companies over the course of their lives.

Why do you find it soooo hard to believe, Jack? I've worked at Schoep's Ice Cream factory, been a purchasing assistant at a company that had something to do with paper development and printing(I think), been a corporate security officer at a credit union World HQ, been through 4 years of the Marine Corps, and now I'm a receptionist/switchboard operator at a World HQ for a multi-branded company while I go to school for computer information systems. That's A LOT more than 2 different types of companies...

I really don't think someone taking the jump from a fast food restaurant manager to a corporate job is too uncommon... especially when that fast food restaurant ceased to exist and he needed to find another job.

LOL...
That's pretty funny. But seriously, there has to be a logical explanation for how somoene could be working at a chicken restaurant one day, and a box factory a year or so later. Perhaps the boxes they put the chicken in came from Hurley's box factory. And Randy saw the name of the box company in his paperwork. How else could he possibly know about the box company? Like we're supposed to believe this box company posts it's openings in the newspaper or on Monster.com or something? *
There HAS to be some long drawn-out explanation for this. People don't just get jobs at two different types of companies over the course of their lives. * darkpiranha is in no way affiliated with Monster.com or any of its affiliates.
Hmmn true. What was I thinking? Applying for a job bwahahaha. Ok. Here's what really happened. Randy1 on World1 worked at the cluck shop. Randy2 worked on World2 at the box company. On World1, the Randy started as the guy who mops the floors and quickly rose to the position of shift manager. Hurley and Johnny were the counterpeople. On World2, the Randy got the job because of divine intervention.
On World3, there's yet another Randy! And he's in a chicken suit.

I just saw something and I think there may be a Jack->Hurley connection. I think the girl in Do No Harm who dies because of Jack's dad's mistake is actually the girl playing Starla(The girl Hugo crushes on). Can anyone get a good screen cap?

Update: Sorry, I just watched the episode all the cowboys, and Jack's dad consoles the victim's husband. I doubt that Starla is married. But after a second look doesn't he look like the guy in Desmond's photo?

It's a bad job.. but makes them look a bit more alike. :P


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/ambersumiko/randyvsrandy.jpg

ROFL - liking it :D

I dunno... R. Kelly didn't see anything wrong with a little bump and grind.....

And look where that got him!!! :grin:

LMAO Point taken!!!

LOL...

That's pretty funny. But seriously, there has to be a logical explanation for how somoene could be working at a chicken restaurant one day, and a box factory a year or so later. Perhaps the boxes they put the chicken in came from Hurley's box factory. And Randy saw the name of the box company in his paperwork. How else could he possibly know about the box company? Like we're supposed to believe this box company posts it's openings in the newspaper or on Monster.com or something? *

There HAS to be some long drawn-out explanation for this. People don't just get jobs at two different types of companies over the course of their lives.







* darkpiranha is in no way affiliated with Monster.com or any of its affiliates.

OK this probably wont apply to everyone but I have had like 20 different jobs. Fast food, resturants, telemarketing, construction, delivery services, sales, office management, all types of stuff, some people have had lots of dead end jobs.

What's your point. Could they just be different actors? People forget this is a T.V. show.

What's your point. Could they just be different actors? People forget this is a T.V. show.

Hmm... With a lack of any quotes, it's difficult to tell who you're speaking to. But, it's already been proven, many times, that the boss of Locke and Hurley ARE played by the same actor and we know that BOTH of them are named Randy.

There HAS to be some long drawn-out explanation for this. People don't just get jobs at two different types of companies over the course of their lives.


I believe this was a sarcastic comment....

Hmm... With a lack of any quotes, it's difficult to tell who you're speaking to. But, it's already been proven, many times, that the boss of Locke and Hurley ARE played by the same actor and we know that BOTH of them are named Randy.

Probably for the post above mine, since there weren't any quotes. Just so you know, because typing can be so ambiguous, it wasn't made to be snotty. :smile: Sorry if it sounded that way.

Thanks for pointing out that it's the same guy. I've been off the boards for a week. You can miss so much. I only read the first three pages of this post and then moved to the last page. I found the actors name for Walkabout but couldn't find who played Randy for EHH. Man, I looked at the screen caps. They really made that guy look different. One he looks a lot younger. I wonder if the Walkabout flashback with Locke was older like it took place before Hurley's. What if Randy was a supervisor at the Box company and got fired. He was forced to be a supervisor at a Fast Food restaurant. Just wishful thinking on my end because I thought the guy was a huge jerk.

Hmm, I get it now newfgirl. Thanks. =)

And yeh, I understand about missing a lot of stuff. I'm just sick of the people that come on with ONLY negative things to say about people's theories and even more sick of those people who say a negative thing about a 'theory' (how stupid or far-fetched or whatever) that has already been PROVEN true... LOL That's how you came across to me, and I apologize. But I understand it happening when you skip to the end of a thread. :biggrin:

And I don't think Locke's flashback could be before Hurley's because Locke's was pretty much right before they got on the cursed Flight 815 ... and Hurley's was quite a while before because after he'd won the lottery he had plenty of time to invest in the different companies and what-not.

"You don't get to quit." I was just waiting for Locke to say "This time." Did Hurley confide in Locke or did Locke figure out that Hurley/Hugo Reyes purchased the box company where he worked?

Did Locke quit the box company? Or did something else happen?


JOHN LOCKE: (v.o.) I have never felt so alive.

CUT TO:

[INT. LOCKE'S BEDROOM - NIGHT - FLASHBACK]

(Locke is on the phone.)

LOCKE: (to phone) Getting to finally tell Randy off was ... uh ... life-
changing.

FAR SHOT OF THE ONE-ROOM APARTMENT

(Locke is sitting upright on the bed. There's a large American flag pinned to
the wall over his dresser. The rest of the one-room apartment is cluttered.)

LOCKE: (to phone) I mean it. Now I'm free to do all those things I ever
wanted to do, things that I know I was destined to do, like we talked about,
Helen.

On Access Hollywood tonight (NBC), they mentioned this part and showed side by side clilps.

Yes. It is the same actor. They gave him a goatee and bad hair for Locke.

Same character name /same actor = same person.

-Tina

I'm just sick of the people that come on with ONLY negative things to say about people's theories and even more sick of those people who say a negative thing about a 'theory' (how stupid or far-fetched or whatever) that has already been PROVEN true... LOL

Yeah you said it.