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Nay815 10-13-2005, 03:06 AM Could anyone tell what the symbol was on the wall or get a good screen capture? Most of the time it was in shadow.
Obviously, this hatch was cleared out ages ago. No furniture, nothing.
radical_lost 10-13-2005, 03:45 AM its the same dharma logo, but instead of a black background and a swan, theres an arrow pointing up...
found this on another thread
http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=otherdharma7kn.jpg
riceroy 10-13-2005, 03:48 AM looks like the same logo on the shark
http://www.ricestudios.com/lost/s2e02/logoonshark8no.jpg
Nay815 10-13-2005, 03:48 AM its the same dharma logo, but instead of a black background and a swan, theres an arrow pointing up...
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:smile:
I tried and tried to make it out and just couldn't.
Nay815 10-13-2005, 03:50 AM looks like the same logo on the shark
http://www.ricestudios.com/lost/s2e02/logoonshark8no.jpg
I think you are correct! Good catch.
Tom Chaney 10-13-2005, 04:08 AM "Arrow" on shark points side to side. In second hatch, points up.
Diela 10-13-2005, 04:59 AM "Arrow" on shark points side to side. In second hatch, points up.
Also, no "Dharma" wordage.
klalkis 10-13-2005, 09:20 AM "Arrow" on shark points side to side. In second hatch, points up.
In the Swan and the Arrow the "All three lines punctured" outside triads are BOTH in the North-East Position (top being north), so the outside should be standard in all station designs. Then the shark logo's center image is: Black background, with a white bar going from lower-left to upper-right
Islandgurl 10-13-2005, 09:55 AM Definately not the same logo as on the shark. Did that hatch also contain a computer at one point? Who looted all the stuff that was inside? Questions and more questions! But i love it
sledgeweb 10-13-2005, 10:25 AM How do you people look at those two logos (the shark and hatch 2) and conclude, "they are the same". Are you blind? The shark logo is mostly filled in black, with a light horizontal bar (which is most likely the word DHARMA just motion blurred). The hatch2 logo is mostly NOT FILLED IN, or WHITE, with a vertical dark bar, and DARK text that says DHARMA.
Look again: http://lost.cubit.net/pics/twoLogos.jpg
Nay815 10-14-2005, 01:12 AM How do you people look at those two logos (the shark and hatch 2) and conclude, "they are the same". Are you blind? The shark logo is mostly filled in black, with a light horizontal bar (which is most likely the word DHARMA just motion blurred). The hatch2 logo is mostly NOT FILLED IN, or WHITE, with a vertical dark bar, and DARK text that says DHARMA.
Look again: http://lost.cubit.net/pics/twoLogos.jpg
One is on a white background and one on a dark shark......could make a difference, ya think? Of course, I'm still awaiting the underwater hatch.
What interest me the most is why the Ana Lucia hatch is totally empty--at least what we have seen so far. So who took the furniture, etc? Was it the Dharma group or the Others?
MrPig 10-14-2005, 01:27 AM Well, guys. I think there´s an antenna on the logo. On the picture Sledge posted I can make out an antenna, and there got to be one on the island, right?
jericho73 10-14-2005, 01:44 AM One is on a white background and one on a dark shark......could make a difference, ya think? Of course, I'm still awaiting the underwater hatch.
Say you could lift both logos off their surfaces...the one of the shark would still have a black center and the one in the tailenders hatch would be clear in the center...if that makes any sense, lol.
RichardChesterton 10-14-2005, 07:25 AM How do you people look at those two logos (the shark and hatch 2) and conclude, "they are the same". Are you blind?
My thoughts exactly!
boredmale 10-14-2005, 07:40 AM anybody have a screenshot of the 2 hatch logos side by side i wonder how the outsides look compared to eachother
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/twoLogos.jpg courtesy of sledgeweb earlier in this thread
Whos Ethan? 10-14-2005, 09:59 AM the experiments there had concluded perhaps?
I have always beleived that the others were the scientists from dharma/hanso corp and the only ppossible people that could actually move/remove furniture from the islands, seeing as there the only people who actually know where they are, its also possible that the hatch was meant to be empty.............
conspiricytheory 10-14-2005, 11:02 AM The shark symbol and the second hatch symbol, definitely not the same. Not even close.
cool2no 10-14-2005, 11:09 AM If it was so hard for Lock and everyone to get into the hatch in the first place, why was it as simple as turning a handle in order for Desmond to leave? Why would it state "quarantine" on the hatch if Desmond could just walk out the back? Continuity error?
Boat_Drinks 10-14-2005, 04:15 PM Just wondering if alll the logos could be 'pointing' to the other hatch locations on the island...ie the swan northeast, the sharks logo east and the arrow logo north or south? with a possible central hidden hatch in the middle where the lines would cross?
palomarasoprez 10-14-2005, 05:54 PM Hello all -- newbie here, fell in love with the show end of last season and have now sacrificed my soul and social life to further pursue its mysteries :-)
In perusing this thread, I made an observation based on the shark logo and one of the other threads regarding the constellations (Swan and Arrow, etc . . . if I knew how to link to it I would, but again -- I'm new here!)
At any rate, it seems to me that, via vague extrapolation, the shark logo could be something like a shield, which would (to me) describe "Orion," the Hunter -- which is listed on that other thread as one of the six constellations connected to Apollo. It would make sense to me, too, since sharks are natural hunters, n'est-ce pas?
I bet that's the hatch that's underwater . . .
Another very obvious reason the logos are different besides the center circle:
The outside border of the new "arrow" hatch symbol is "hashed". It is not one continuous line around the outside like the Swan logo or the Shark logo (although the shark logo is blurry, but it still doesnt appear to be hashed).
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/twoLogos.jpg
See the hashed outer ring?
goddessblue 10-14-2005, 06:28 PM Hello all -- newbie here, fell in love with the show end of last season and have now sacrificed my soul and social life to further pursue its mysteries :-)
In perusing this thread, I made an observation based on the shark logo and one of the other threads regarding the constellations (Swan and Arrow, etc . . . if I knew how to link to it I would, but again -- I'm new here!)
At any rate, it seems to me that, via vague extrapolation, the shark logo could be something like a shield, which would (to me) describe "Orion," the Hunter -- which is listed on that other thread as one of the six constellations connected to Apollo. It would make sense to me, too, since sharks are natural hunters, n'est-ce pas?
I bet that's the hatch that's underwater . . .
I thought the arrow on the Dharma logo in Hatch 2 would would describe Orion the Hunter, more so than the shark logo. I like the underwater hatch theory. I would venture to guess the shark would come from there.
Sier, I did notice the hashed outer ring as well. Can only theorize at this point that all the logos have the octagonal shape and Dharma in common, but are individualized (constellations/animals/hashed outer ring) for each hatch. Finding more logos will be the only thing to prove this.
Nay815 10-14-2005, 06:33 PM I posted this somewhere once before but have forgotten where ??? but I got this screen capture from the season two trailer at Oceanic.
Doesn't this look like divers moving to an underwater hatch, or is just me?
http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=water30if.jpg
Yes, I know it's blurry-------that blue screen in the preview flewwwwwwwww by.
reyven 10-14-2005, 07:29 PM the hatching on the outer ring is because a stencil was used to paint it there... just like the stencil letters the military uses to label everything, you can't have a O stencil with a little peicce connecting to the inside of the O, same with the Dharma logos in bunker 2
the hatching on the outer ring is because a stencil was used to paint it there... just like the stencil letters the military uses to label everything, you can't have a O stencil with a little peicce connecting to the inside of the O, same with the Dharma logos in bunker 2
The Dharma logo in the swan station (the first logo we have seen) has a solid outer ring on the video, all the patches, the med cabinet, the food, everything. The "arrow" dharma symbol doesnt have a solid outer ring, which as you said, could be due to painting, but the original symbol in every other instance is totally solid on the outer ring.
Maybe if we get a better look at some of the other arrow Dharma symbols that arent painted on a wall this season we can see if it has a solid outer ring like the Swan logo.
davyhay 10-14-2005, 08:09 PM ok, on the subject of the other bunker. Sayid was talking about the amount a concrete in the Swan, and how it was similar to what was done to chernobyl. Is it possible that the 108 minute timer is some sort of reset for a reactor, and the crew un the second bunker did not push the button, or suffered some sort of malfunction? This would explain why so many of the tail survivors had died. Could be radiation poisoning.
getmeouttahere 10-14-2005, 08:27 PM ok, on the subject of the other bunker. Sayid was talking about the amount a concrete in the Swan, and how it was similar to what was done to chernobyl. Is it possible that the 108 minute timer is some sort of reset for a reactor, and the crew un the second bunker did not push the button, or suffered some sort of malfunction? This would explain why so many of the tail survivors had died. Could be radiation poisoning.
I was thinking the same thing. Also, to me the second hatch looks more like it was destroyed instead of just abandoned and the furniture moved out. It looks like they had electricity though.
I posted this somewhere once before but have forgotten where ??? but I got this screen capture from the season two trailer at Oceanic.
Doesn't this look like divers moving to an underwater hatch, or is just me?
http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=water30if.jpg
Yes, I know it's blurry-------that blue screen in the preview flewwwwwwwww by.
I can see it too. In the top image, it looks like a diver with his legs straight up and his body half in the hatch, and in the lower image his legs are bent. What episode is it from?
debispretty 10-15-2005, 02:51 AM The different logos seem to represent different experiments from the same organization. Maybe that explains the polar bears and other animals on the island, it would also explain why some of them are getting ill, everyone who have a different reaction to radiation.
MarkTheShark 10-15-2005, 04:03 AM its the same dharma logo, but instead of a black background and a swan, theres an arrow pointing up...
found this on another thread
http://img377.imageshack.us/my.php?image=otherdharma7kn.jpg
Thanks for posting the screen cap. I noticed the border of this logo is not a continuous line like the swan logo or even the logo on the shark, around the outside and the inside. So it's similar, but not the same... I wonder if that means anything.
radical_lost 10-15-2005, 04:20 AM we have three different logos now, the swan, the arrow, and well... the shark.. there are 6 stations right? so we have to look for three more... im looking forward to seeing the rest of the arrow station next week, hopefully we'll get more than just a quick glimpse this time..
radical_lost 10-15-2005, 04:21 AM Thanks for posting the screen cap. I noticed the border of this logo is not a continuous line like the swan logo or even the logo on the shark, around the outside and the inside. So it's similar, but not the same... I wonder if that means anything.
non-continuous=discontinued? might explain the lack of furniture and other stuff in the hatch.. might be reaching, but just a thought..
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