"They took a lot of things." - Ana Lucia

Besides people? I wonder what she meant by that.

Teddy bears, apparently.

Sounded pretty personal...can't wait to find out next week.

Their feeling of security? Their compassion?

Maybe they stole Ana's heart :p

I immediately thought
.........they took lives

Ana's lesbian lover.

Their feeling of security? Their compassion?
That makes sense. Something intangible.

hahahah compassion! that made me laugh.

i wonder, though, more seriously, if it involved some kind of sexual things, violation, rape or anything. the women seem particularly on edge (more than say bernard or mr. eko). just a thought.

hahahah compassion! that made me laugh.

With me, not at me, right? Just saying, it's not hard for me to understand why she would want to leave Sawyer behind - she knows how close to death he is. And saving 8 lives or so seems better than losing them all.

She did help lift him up the cliff...she didn't have to do that.

i wonder, though, more seriously, if it involved some kind of sexual things, violation, rape or anything. the women seem particularly on edge (more than say bernard or mr. eko). just a thought.

Yes, I felt she meant something more - like the Others had stolen their faith in humanity.

oh totally with you jennylee. i mean, ana-lucia...not so compassionate. so maybe someone DID take her ability to be compassionate and sympathetic.

They probably also took a lot of the things that the tail enders had salvaged from the wreckage. Things that could have helped them defend themselves in addition to the intangibles.

Teddy bears, apparently.

Probably.. I wonder what other stuff they took?

They took all the peanuts and mini-booze. :)

hahahah compassion! that made me laugh.

i wonder, though, more seriously, if it involved some kind of sexual things, violation, rape or anything. the women seem particularly on edge (more than say bernard or mr. eko). just a thought.

Woah, this just made me think... maybe they take the women and children (for whatever purposes) and kill the men?

I believe the Others took the other surviving children.

I believe the Others took the other surviving children.

Definitely. But whose children are they? Ana-Lucia seems quite attached to them. But are they hers or did she just care for them in those 2 weeks because their parents had died in the crash?

Maybe they took all of the Tailaway's copies of "Oceanic Air", the award winning in-flite magazine!?

Maybe they harvested organs from some of the Tailees? Took kidneys or livers. Maybe even reproductive organs like eggs from the women. The Others certainly seem interested in children, perhaps they want to grow their own.

I think she might have meant rape. I sort of remember Ana Lucia turning to the psychiatrist a little after she said it. The psychiatrist looks like she might have been raped; the way she acts and responds to people and everything. Ana Lucia and other women might have been raped too.

I think she might have meant rape. I sort of remember Ana Lucia turning to the psychiatrist a little after she said it. The psychiatrist looks like she might have been raped; the way she acts and responds to people and everything. Ana Lucia and other women might have been raped too.

Wow I hadn't even thought of it that way. I was thinking she was just referring to the emotional torture they were put through. This is an interesting thought though.

I think Ana had a love interest in one of the men, the guy that was speared with
that long stick thing. Maybe the children were his, and they came back and
got them too, might have killed several of them and left their bodies to find
as a warning. Seems like they appear suddenly without sound, without
warning. Chilling! for sure!

Libby said earlier that they had "trust issues". Maybe the Others posed as survivors first, gained their trust, then attacked and took the children?

i'm leaning towards the idea that "the others" raped some of the tail section people. not to get too heavy, but i've heard rape survivors speak in these terms before.

maybe she was pregnant?

i don't think they took material things; i agree with the idea that ana was referring to trust, comapassion, security .

i doubt that they were raped - that would really push the boundaries a little too much and could be perceived as being prurient exploitation, especially if children are involved. perhaps if the show was on at 10pm, the writers could take it to that level of darkness. it could be a logical step since the others seem to need cildren, but - only if they took women captive. and then that all gets too complicated.

however, rape does work on a metaphorical level: the survivors have been stripped of their sense of security, violated emotionally, experienced real physical injuries and loss, and have even had to relinquish a certain amount of individual personality, merely to survive.

I think Ana had a love interest in one of the men, the guy that was speared with that long stick thing. Maybe the children were his, and they came back and got them too, might have killed several of them and left their bodies to find as a warning. Seems like they appear suddenly without sound, without warning. Chilling! for sure!

this makes a lot of sense and i agree, would be a really chilling plot development. even if there wasn't a love interest - to see someone killed and their children stolen; to not be able to stop it - man, that would mess with ya. and i doubt libby's had any time to help the survivors deal with their anguish via therapy.

Something tells me Disney wouldn't be into the rape aspect...

I think she might have meant rape. I sort of remember Ana Lucia turning to the psychiatrist a little after she said it. The psychiatrist looks like she might have been raped; the way she acts and responds to people and everything. Ana Lucia and other women might have been raped too.

That was my first instinct too - the look between the two women seems to hold a lot to me.

Maybe they harvested organs from some of the Tailees? Took kidneys or livers. Maybe even reproductive organs like eggs from the women. The Others certainly seem interested in children, perhaps they want to grow their own.

I think perhaps thats pushing it a small bit.

But did you guys see the inside of their hatch, aparently they took everything.

And if they kidnap women so easily, why if ana and other lady were raped would they still be in the group. Wouldn't they be in othersville or something in a cage or something.

Well, Ana didn't seemed to be in a relationship in the airport when she was talking to Jack, judging by the way she kind of flirted with him. So if they stole or killed her love interest I'm guessing it was another survivor. My guess is that there weren't really love interests, but there was a bond between the tail survivors just like our losties because they survived the crash. So when you survive something like that and then people start getting picked off, it would probably put you on edge. I agree with the theory that "the others" posed as survivors, because the tail survivors didn't have the manifest to compare the survivors to who was on the plane. If our losties hadn't had that, they wouldn't have figured Ethan out until he took Claire.

Anybody agree or have anything to add.

hahahah compassion! that made me laugh.

i wonder, though, more seriously, if it involved some kind of sexual things, violation, rape or anything. the women seem particularly on edge (more than say bernard or mr. eko). just a thought.

That was my thinking, too. Take the women, do things, and then send them back- like they did with Claire.

Something tells me Disney wouldn't be into the rape aspect...

I don't know about US shows, but many shows in the UK have dealt with rape (without actually showing it) before the watershed (before 9pm). In fact most of the soaps have used it many times and they are shown between 18:30 and 20:30. They managed to cope with Charlie's heroin use and subsequent withdrawl in quite a "fluffy" way, so I wouldn't discount the theory just because Disney is behind the series. They have already dealt with mercy killings, murder, adoption, confidence tricksters, disability, parental abandonment, and armed robbery.

I think perhaps thats pushing it a small bit.

But did you guys see the inside of their hatch, aparently they took everything.

And if they kidnap women so easily, why if ana and other lady were raped would they still be in the group. Wouldn't they be in othersville or something in a cage or something.
They could have escaped somehow.

"Do you remember what they did to us?" - Ana

Perhaps they were tortured? Taken then left for dead? I think Ana had a thing with a tall blonde fellow who may end up being the tail enders ETHAN

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Something tells me Disney wouldn't be into the rape aspect...

Obviously you don't know the Disney company very well.
They present themselves as a family friendly company.
But they have subsidies that produce the trash that has so much dollar value that they don't want to miss out on.
Disney owns film companies; Buena Vista, Touchstone, Walt Disney, Hollywood Pictures, Caravan Pictures, Miramax Films. That is just the tip of the iceberg

Newsweek reported that in 1996, Disney considered buying Ripe, a movie about the deflowering of 14-year-old twins. Bad publicity was all that stopped the deal from being made.

When Disney's Hollywood Records released an album by the band Sacred Reich, they sent thousands of marijuana bongs to radio stations as an advertising ploy to get them to play the record. Yet Disney claims a staunch and rabidly anti-drug stance.



So if you think Disney is a goody goody company think again
Do some research.
You can start here: http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Disney/Interests.html

I think perhaps thats pushing it a small bit.

But did you guys see the inside of their hatch, aparently they took everything.

And if they kidnap women so easily, why if ana and other lady were raped would they still be in the group. Wouldn't they be in othersville or something in a cage or something.

I don't know, it sort of fits with what happen to Locke. Maybe his lack of a kidney will come into play if he's captured by Others.