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imajkt
11-10-2005, 01:09 AM
I posted this on the Season 2 board but I thought I should put it here as well since this was mentioned on tonight's episode....

I thought this was interesting information from Ana-Lucia:

She said on the first night the "others" took three of us. She then says they then waited fourteen days and took nine more.

I think it's a definite clue of some sort from the producers possibly foretelling something down the line...

The numbers that we have seen repeated over and over again were:
4 8 15 16 23 42

The tail's first number would be 3....Then 9 for the number of people captured on the 14th night.

3 9 14

What is the significance of these numbers? Who knows, but just as the original 48 members of the front of the plane had their numbers...I'm wondering if the tailenders have their own as well....

sier
11-10-2005, 01:13 AM
I was thinking about this as well. Having 3 important numbers mentioned, all one off from the original set is a bit strange.

addicted2much
11-10-2005, 01:43 AM
maybe the arrow station designation is 3 9 14 , while the swan station is 4 8 15 16 23 42

darkling
11-10-2005, 01:48 AM
I think you have a really interesting theory about the numbers corresponding to the arrow station versus the swan station.

If the numbers follow the same pattern of -1 then +1 the tailaways numbers would be 3 9 14 17 22 43.

sier
11-10-2005, 01:49 AM
They *did* have 23 survivors though...

sadams
11-10-2005, 02:01 AM
If you buy into the theory that Mister Eko isn't a crash survivor, then that would leave the number of survivors at 22.

3 9 14 __ 22 __

radical_lost
11-10-2005, 02:06 AM
great theory.. all the numbers were mentioned in one sentence, so they must be of some importnac... loved this eppy

sier
11-10-2005, 02:06 AM
Ah, that is true.

You know, when he first suggested to go into the jungle because the beach was a "penninsula" they couldnt cross, Ana said something to the effect of "how do you know?" and he said "It *could* be" (im totally paraphrasing here...I dont have the episode re-encoded yet...its like 5 gigs at the moment). My first thought was "What? Does that mean he had prior knowledge of the island?"

Then she said "You want to hurry up and get the cowboy back to his camp", which made me think "oh, I was way off...duh".

But I like the 22 theory. It makes me think I wasnt way off (I was).

Lija
11-10-2005, 02:10 AM
Ooh. Man, you guys are SMART! I never clued in to that.
Cheers!

uhohlisa
11-10-2005, 02:11 AM
you guys i'm really sorry... i haven't been a proper lost fan the past couple of weeks... but what's the theory with eko? why do people think he may actually be an other?

sier
11-10-2005, 02:14 AM
Also, if they came on the first night and waited two weeks to retun, thats the 15th night, which one of the magic numbers.

And uhohlisa (I see you on the LJ community), some people are specualting that he may not have been on the plane, but is one of the drug runners from the Nigerian plane that Boone died in. It's pure specualtion at this point though.

sier
11-10-2005, 02:16 AM
Actually, here is a thread talking about it:

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=25342

sadams
11-10-2005, 02:17 AM
I don't necessarily think that he's an 'other', but I think there's something more to him than meets the eye.

Here's my reasoning:

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=25342

Jezz1226
11-10-2005, 02:25 AM
Great theory, I feel that I'm definitly stretching it at this point but to get the number 17 one could figure: Ana Lucia said they took 12 (3 the first time, 9 the second), including Eko group had 23 to begin with and its at 5 now, that means 6 people are unaccounted for, possibly these are children. Maybe the others didn't take the children (assuming they had children with them from Libby's remark) at these times. If thats so then that would mean the original group had 17 adult members. Again I feel I'm really streching it but...

qorzm
11-10-2005, 02:25 AM
3 6 _ _ _ 52

6 is featured so much more compared to 9, and there have been threads discussing this even before season 2 has started.

uhohlisa
11-10-2005, 02:28 AM
thank you guys so much. and hello sier :)

Jezz1226
11-10-2005, 02:33 AM
3 6 _ _ _ 52

6 is featured so much more compared to 9, and there have been threads discussing this even before season 2 has started.

True but the other way it follows more of a pattern off of the "original" numbers, order proposed so far in this thread: 3 9 14 17 22 43 "original" numbers: 4 8 15 16 23 42, +1, -1. But you could be right and that could be a coincidence

sier
11-10-2005, 02:41 AM
Also, if you just use the actual numbers (not using 14 for "2 weeks", but using "2")

You have 3 + 9 + 2 = 14.

So 14 can still be found, even without converting the "two weeks" quote to 14.

dzdconfsed
11-10-2005, 03:15 AM
Personally, I think the odd numbers are keys to a different mystery. I know there is a thread somewhere on it here, but I can't find it now. If anyone knows it, please post it, but 3 has been a reoccurring number...Michael was on the 3rd floor at the hotel before the flight, Jack now having a connection to the deaths of 3 members of the same family and I know more that I am just too brain dead to think of right now. I think I also remember too that the writers said something about Jack's tattoo being worked into the show and he has a 5 on his arm. And the drug smuggler plane was 7 too. So if there is a connection, it would seem to be the odd numbers before and after our cursed numbers?

prittygurl03
11-10-2005, 03:25 AM
I really like this number theory. I figured they were significant (or at least could be), but I didn't notice they were one off from the numbers we know. Weird stuff.

ELTaino74
11-10-2005, 08:35 AM
I think you have a really interesting theory about the numbers corresponding to the arrow station versus the swan station.

If the numbers follow the same pattern of -1 then +1 the tailaways numbers would be 3 9 14 17 22 43.


I was thinking exactly the same thing .
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=25315

Nuj
11-10-2005, 09:32 AM
I like the number progression you guys came up with, but I don't think the number of survivors originally correlates. Remember, the fuselage started with 48 survivors, not 42.

LOSTsbp
11-10-2005, 01:03 PM
3 6 _ _ _ 52

6 is featured so much more compared to 9, and there have been threads discussing this even before season 2 has started.


Did anyone pick up references to the number 12? 3+9 = 12 Also, when Locke and Charlie were playing backgammon, somone rolled "double sixes." Either Locke or Charlie literally said outloud, "double sixes."

LOSTsbp
11-10-2005, 01:05 PM
3 6 _ _ _ 52

6 is featured so much more compared to 9, and there have been threads discussing this even before season 2 has started.

Did anyone pick up references to the number 12? 3+9 = 12

Also, when Locke and Charlie were playing backgammon, someone rolled "double sixes." Either Locke or Charlie literally said outloud, "double sixes."

nesta411
11-10-2005, 01:22 PM
eko(sp?) was on the plane. if you remember the preview from three weeks ago it shows eko helping people to land after the crash and it looks like he had a suit on at one point. i think he was wearing black dress pants maybe and a white long sleeve collared shirt.

conspiricytheory
11-10-2005, 01:23 PM
When thinking of this number theory I think we need to probably differenciate between the two sides of the island. Numbers like the double sixes would not apply to the number theory for the other side of the island. I think we will find out more next week to may make this theory a little more solid. It is a very good theory correct or not. But I don't think that we should try to make numbers from the front side of the island fit with the numbers for the tail section.

Petragrrl
11-10-2005, 02:24 PM
The "new" number sequence of 3 9 14 17 22 43 also would make most sense because it logically adds up to be (you guessed it) 108...

addicted2much
11-10-2005, 03:05 PM
The "new" number sequence of 3 9 14 17 22 43 also would make most sense because it logically adds up to be (you guessed it) 108...

So, could the other stations have sets of numbers that also add up to 108.
2,10,13,18,21,44
1,11,12,19,20,45
As long at you do the minus 1 plus 1 you get 108 :laughing:
I know that 20 has come up a lot and Sarah wore a shirt that had the number 44

m_tyson
11-11-2005, 12:23 PM
I saw the double sixes as an homage to the just released Star Wars ROTS DVD, and a sign that perceived friendlies would start to execute losties...


When thinking of this number theory I think we need to probably differenciate between the two sides of the island. Numbers like the double sixes would not apply to the number theory for the other side of the island. I think we will find out more next week to may make this theory a little more solid. It is a very good theory correct or not. But I don't think that we should try to make numbers from the front side of the island fit with the numbers for the tail section.

astrojones
11-11-2005, 12:38 PM
Petra, that is awesome. I hadn't realized, or even considered, that these new numbers added up to 108.

Still, I'm having a hard time believing this theory is going to fit into the show. But I'll be optimistic and just wait.

As for Eko, I originally thought the same thing, but since seeing previews, I know think that he was in fact on the plane. Not that him being on the plane doesn't mean he knows more than he should.

Lija
11-12-2005, 03:07 AM
The "new" number sequence of 3 9 14 17 22 43 also would make most sense because it logically adds up to be (you guessed it) 108...

Brilliant! Kudos to Petragrrl!
never think to add things up.]

daullaz
11-15-2005, 02:10 AM
In differentiating number sets to the different groups, I think it's important to note that Ana was in row 42. Although, I guess when Cindy or another flight attendant strapped in in the back of the plane, technically that would be row 43. I would think Ana's row (like Jack's) would have more significance, and that number, 42, is one of the original six.