Ok, I know this is a far stretch, and even I dont really believe it, but since the death was such a let down for me (a little predictable), I was talking with my friends and we were also noting that Cindy also went missing. How possible is it that TPTB are misdirecting us but that the real death was Cindy? I couldnt find anything that really talked about this and would just like to hear some feedback. What do you think? Could shannon just be injured? Not like I am one of those fans that is grasping for straws or anything, just thought that it was worth noting that not one but TWO female characters are MIA.......

The promo said one survivor would be lost forever.... and now Cindy is missing. I didn't expect a death in this episode so the end was a surprise for me. I was even half expecting that Walt would be lost forever.

Other times there's been promos about an impending death and then it was a secondary character or extra.

As for Shannon - a bullet in the stomach is not good. And they don't have a Kaiser Permanente down the road, you know? (Unless there's a medical hatch or Desmond is around to "lift her up"....)

See, and I think that out of all the people seen, Cindy would be the most deserving of the description "LOST forever". I dont know though, I think that its probably 99% sure that Shannon is dead, but wouldnt it be a WICKED good twist if she DIDNT die? I mean, I dont think that I need to spoiler font this b/c it already happened in the episode, but a lot of the people out there were saying that it would be a female castaway that was killed with an I in her name........so, I know that there is an I in MaggIe Grace, but there is no I in Shannon. But there is an I in Cindy.......... anyways, I think that Jack being a doctor and all, maybe with medical supplies in the hatch he can save her. I guess that only time will tell.

P.S. P.Cat- I'm from Sacramento area too, where are you from?

Sawyer is in pretty bad shape himself, so that leaves 3 possibilities. TPTB never said it would be a female character that dies. It's the spoilers that have said that. The spoilers also said we wouldn't know who the murderer was until a later episode so what's fact and what's fiction.

LostbyLost, I totally agree. I think that perhaps all of the people that are saying "oh boo hoo that was predictable and why did they kill the most obvious" and all of that might just be speaking too soon. I think that this is a lot more of a cliffhanger than people are saying. I mean, they told us that one castaway would be lost forever, and whatever happened this episode happened, SOOOO really one of them IS lost forever, we just dont know which yet......or why.

well, if it's just the one shot in the stomach, blah, yeah - it was a let-down.

but if they kill off THREE characters, all in a few short episodes... wow - that would be an interesting and gutsy move (no pun intended, ha!)

but i think it's just our dear, gut-shot shannon who will be leaving us, only because of all the buzz about bad blood between the actress and TPTB.

I agree hellotzp, things arent looking good for our gut shot friend. But WHO is issuing all the things about the bad relations between MG and TPTB? Like I say, perhaps it is just a misdirection to fool us. I hold NOT to the opinion that this is correct, its just an idea that I had, but I do hold to the idea that this would be THE BIGGEST and BEST twist on the show in a long time.

i didn't see your post and I posted the same idea. I also think that cindy is the one who is lost forever and shannon will be saved by jack. i think it would be a killer twist. i also want to know if ana didn't shoot shannon, then who did she shoot?? and who shot shannon??

The wound in Shannon's stomach looks more like a knife wound that a gunshot wound. Leading to the possibility that some "other" person killed Shannon and Ana Lucia then shot the other person. And the shock on everyone's faces would be just same for this situation.

She shot cindy... i belive, she was probably out pissing in a bush or something stupid like that

If we are being mislead, it wouldn´t be the first time...... :o

She shot cindy... i belive, she was probably out pissing in a bush or something stupid like that

lmao!

I don't recall exactly where i read or saw this - (i'm sure it was on here somewhere) - but didn't some spoiler/foiler say that we'd think so and so was the killer but later find out it wasn't what we saw? Something to the effect that one person was blamed, but later someone else confesses to it. Anyway, that seems like a good possibility. In looking at the screen caps it seems that the arm/body shown in the same frame as sayid holding dying shannon doesn't belong to ana. Its the biggie sized version:
http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x06-abandoned/9/abandoned-cap883.jpg

I don't recall exactly where i read or saw this - (i'm sure it was on here somewhere) - but didn't some spoiler/foiler say that we'd think so and so was the killer but later find out it wasn't what we saw? Something to the effect that one person was blamed, but later someone else confesses to it. Anyway, that seems like a good possibility. In looking at the screen caps it seems that the arm/body shown in the same frame as sayid holding dying shannon doesn't belong to ana. Its the biggie sized version:
http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x06-abandoned/9/abandoned-cap883.jpg

yep I concur....and as I have been posting if we just look at the shots the killer is left handed and Ana is right....so some questions we could look to answer are

1) Who are the left handed suspects
2) Who did Ana just shoot. If you consider this theory that they would still be a fair distance from the main camp. Who is running around in the jungle....Desmond?

Kate is left handed.

Ooh! Maybe Ethan shot her? :)

What about Desmund? He is off in the jungle somewhere....

Its funny that you should mention Kate. When I first looked at the screencap I looked at the person off to the side. My very first thought was that the person reminded me of Kate. It was something about the way the person was standing.

Just thought I'd share that.

Let's not blame everything that goes wrong on Kate, especially when she doesn't even appear in the episode.. :)

Here is a wacky theory so forgive me. We are lead to believe that Ana shot her gun but we don't KNOW that yet. Which makes me remember the mini-conversation between Shannon and Sayid concerning his gun. Did he retrieve his gun or did someone else take it?

Not to blame Walt for the action, since I think he is good (or at least his intentions are good). But Walt could have taken the gun.

I think it's Ana. The lostaways and the tailies are just about to meet each other. The losties don't know that there were other survivors. I could be wrong. Kate is nowhwere in sight. The only person with the gun was Ana. She could have mistakenly shot Shannon thinking she was one of the others. It could be that tptb are playing with us by saying it's someone else, this I don't know.

We are definitely suppose to believe it was Ana.
However, what we are lead to believe are not always the truth, as we have seen before on this show. I guess we will find out in about 1 week..... ;)

I think in this case I have to believe mj. There is more story to be played out that way. Will Sayid demand justice or forgive Ana Lucia?

As far as the Cindy thing- when she went missing, I thought the promo said "one... will be lost forever." In my mind she fit the bill, but I think it was just a way to get us to let our guard down, and then shock us by killing Shannon.

Shannon story was done. Since her father's death, she was just looking for someone to love her and stand by her. Sayid did that. She found what she had been looking for, and now she's no longer LOST. Same with Boone's story- he had been looking for freedom from his obsession with Shannon, he found it, then he was killed off.

The screen shot from the post above clearly shows it in the left hand of the person.

Can anyone go back and look at the moment we see the Tailies after Shannon falls into Sayid's arm? What hand is AL holding the gun? Left or right?

Why would you switch hands after firing your gun?
If AL is holding it in her right hand, then we have another shooter out there somewhere.

When it cuts to the Tailies, the gun is still held in both of AL's hands. Then she drops her arms to the same position as the screen cap.

I think in this case I have to believe mj. There is more story to be played out that way. Will Sayid demand justice or forgive Ana Lucia?

You would get pretty much the same result if everyone believed Ana killed Shannon, whether she did it or not might not be the big question, rather what everyone else believs....

We are definitely suppose to believe it was Ana.
However, what we are lead to believe are not always the truth, as we have seen before on this show. I guess we will find out in about 1 week..... ;)

aaaaaah, no i think it'll be TWO WEEKS before we get this resolved, since next week's episode is "the other 48 days" and just coveres the tailaways' experiences up to present...

I'm not sure if Shannon is dead. We saw her get shot, but we don't know if she is definetly dead yet. Plus it seems like her back story is not done yet. I mean does she go to New York, or not? It just doesn't seem like they would kill her off when her back story isn't done. I don't know. If she is still alive it could be very interesting because Sawyer is also hurt and if they bring them both to Jack he won't be able to work on both of them at the same time. It will be like when he had both his future wife and Shannon's dad to save. He had to pick one. Hmmmmmm

Can anyone go back and look at the moment we see the Tailies after Shannon falls into Sayid's arm? What hand is AL holding the gun? Left or right?

Why would you switch hands after firing your gun?
If AL is holding it in her right hand, then we have another shooter out there somewhere.

http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=fkbgc6

We are lead to believe that Ana shot her gun but we don't KNOW that yet.
Actually, when they cut to AL holding the gun it is obvious that she has just fired the last round.
But she didn't shoot Shannon. She shot at someone or something. But not Shannon. They're just messing with us again.

I think Shannon's back story is done. She couldn't get the money from her step-mother to go to New York, so she evolved her plot to con money from Boone. That gets us to the plane crash.

And Michael and Jin were most likely witnesses to Ana shooting someone, as were the other tailees, so there would be no mystery there. It just makes too much sense for the development of the plot, in my mind, to have Ana shoot and kill Shannon.

And they don't have a Kaiser Permanente down the road, you know?


What if they discover an operating room in the Hatch???

maybe it was Cindy that stabbed Shannon and AL shot Cindy....???:confused:

Maybe it was

Danielle

Could she be jealous of Shannon and Sayid? IMO, she seemed to be very attached to Sayid and she seems to pop up in jungle at the strangest times. She could have also stolen Sayid's gun from Shannon new tent

It definately wasn't AL

Has anyone else noticed just how bloody the *back* and shoulders of Shannon's shirt is before she turns around and reveals her wound?

I can do a screencap if anyone wants, but its seriously soaked in blood within about 2.5 seconds of the shot going off. What the hell?

Wait, I'm an idiot.

Going frame by frame though this has made me look like a fool. She has that pink over shirt thing on and that is what I was referring to. MaybeI should *watch* it rather than frame by frame it..haha.

The way AL is holding the gun makes me think that she probably did not pull the trigger. She doesn't have her finger on the trigger, which doesn't immediately rule it out, but makes me think twice. Also, you can tell in the last pic that was posted that she is holding the grip in her right hand with the left hand supporting it. If someone else fired a weapon, AL would still be holding her weapon up, on guard.

If Shannon were shot from far away, instead of up close, like by a sniper (?) there wouldn't necessarily be an exit wound.

I'm not convinced that Shannon is the one who will die. If the rumors are correct that we won't find out who killed this person for several episodes, that still leaves Sawyer in the running. Yes, we know he was shot by the Others, but we don't really know who the Others are.

Does it ever show Sayid and Shannon in the same shot with AL her group? I don't think it does, perhaps the two are meant to look connected, but really aren't?

The way AL is holding the gun makes me think that she probably did not pull the trigger.
Yes, she did pull the trigger. Like I said before, and I'm sure someone else is probably saying in another thread, it's obvious she fired the last, and in this case the only, round. The slide on the gun is back. That's is what happens when the last round is fired from a semi-auto handgun.
And if you watch the wide shot of Sayid holding Shannon it's equally obvious that he's not looking at Ana Lucia.As uninisg suggests Shannon/Sayid could be miles from the Tailaways, et al.

Yes, she did pull the trigger. Like I said before, and I'm sure someone else is probably saying in another thread, it's obvious she fired the last, and in this case the only, round. The slide on the gun is back. That's is what happens when the last round is fired from a semi-auto handgun.

Someone explained it to me in another thread about the slide being back. I've never shot a pistol, so I didn't know about that. It makes sense now.

I think it makes sense that Sayid/Shannon are not in the same location as the Tailies, because as far as I know they aren't supposed to be close to the Lostaways yet.

good point Bio Gal, I thought Eko said it would be at least a day or more until they got to their destination, and I think it is supposed to be the same night. Maybe the shock of the tailies faces (and jin and michael) is that they found dead cindy............... And Sayid's look of anger after hearing the shot could be at someone else entirely, not AL.

Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cindy will be fine, she's just getting me a blanket.

im not saying it was definitly AL. i think everyone made great points but to say it cant be AL because she is righthanded is dumb. are you trying to tell me righties dont use their left hand?

and i can narrow down the people that could of really died(big spoiler)

in TV GUIDE a couple weeks back, there was an article with the writers or producers (cant remember which) and in that they said it was going to a female. So sawyer isnt goin to die this season. I wish i could find that magazine cuz i cant remember if they said it was a new character or old, but i think they said an old character. so im sure shannon is dead

good point Bio Gal, I thought Eko said it would be at least a day or more until they got to their destination, and I think it is supposed to be the same night. Maybe the shock of the tailies faces (and jin and michael) is that they found dead cindy............... And Sayid's look of anger after hearing the shot could be at someone else entirely, not AL.

OOOOOOhhhhh I like that theory! I also like the theory that it may have been a jealous Danielle that killed/stabbed Shannon........ I'm not 100% sure that it is true, but wouldnt it be crazy if it was just cut together to LOOK like AL killed Shannon.......or if she shot Danielle to protect Shannon.......

Also, I agree that it is COMPLETELY feasible that AL shot at somebody who was attacking Shannon. I remember that in some spoiler somewhere it was written that

it would LOOK like somebody was the murderer but then they would be cleared of the crime and the true killer would be revealed.

But then again if this is the case it would mean that it IS shannon that dies. So many options........ I still think that it is fishy that Cindy is apparently Lost forever, and in the promo for the episode it said that ONE person would be lost forever. Seems like with Cindy and Shannon that would be TWO. So who is not Lost forever? Shannon cuz she gets help from Dr. Jack, or Cindy because we see her later? what do you all think?

As far as Shannon is concerned. The shows creators gave an interview Today. (Thursday)
Commenting on how great Maggie Grace was. Because she has known for 7 months.-(Last April) when they negotiated her contract, That she was dying. And they said how great she was because she agreed to go to all the Award shows and Interviews and act like she was a regular part of the group. And never gave anything away.
Personally I don't care if Ana Lucia killed her or not. I would rather we kept the original group that crashed and that we have watched over the past 31 episodes. Not get another new group of characters. At this rate we are just watching Survivor. To see Who is the last man or woman we first watched left standing on the island. Because they are going to kill all the originals off before the series even ends.

Because they are going to kill all the originals off before the series even ends.

How do you know that? Did the creatives really stated that??? Or is it only speculation?

I dunno. While I agree that we're being misdirected that it was Ana who shot Shannon, and not someone else, I think that she did arrive at the scene at the same time as Sayid.

In "What Kate Did", we see that everybody's integrated into the new group already, this would suggest that they get to the beach early in the episode.

Just a thought.

I think Shannon's back story is done. She couldn't get the money from her step-mother to go to New York, so she evolved her plot to con money from Boone. That gets us to the plane crash.

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Shannon's father had a will - or so predicts my daughter Kora (again). Stepmonster was *lying*, and Shannon was too naive and trusting (at 18) to demand documentation. But isn't it interesting... that while stepmonster explained "maybe he wanted you to make your own, Boone already had a trust fund to kick in at the end of the month..

I think that you are right, and that AL probably shot at somebody else and not shannon, or perhaps she was shooting at someone or something else and ended up hitting Shannon. I think that this will be easily resolved by the time we find out "what kate did" because Mike and Jin will easily be able to vouch for what happened from the AL end of the incident. I think that while Sayid's face was SOOOOO CRAZY when he looked up from a dead or dying Shannon, even with all his rage he would take Mike and Jin's word for it if they said that it was a true accident. I think that is why it seems like everybody is fine and dandy by the time we get to the episode where we see them all together If AL shot to protect Shannon, as some predict, then I CANT WAIT to see the murderous rampage that Sayid will go on. I mean, he tortured Sawyer just to get her inhaler, and thats BEFORE they hooked up, so you know he is good for it!

Actress Maggie Grace was fired from the set so Shannon is dead. It would, however, seem that she and the creators departed on smart and good terms so perhaps she might be available in the future for flashback episodes. Keep in mind that even though all of the characters with obvious connections to her past are dead, the prevalent theme of this show is that the castaways are all a part of one anothers past through some way or another. Shannon is dead but she may still be referenced in future flashbacks (oxymoron?).

As for the shooting itself...At first I believed that the cutaway scenes (Shannon being shot, Ana holding a weapon that had been fired) were glued together to make us think that Ana shot Shannon. But after watching it a few more times it is inconclusive. But there is something to consider...The shot fired (the one that was heard) was not a handgun. I dont know if the sound engineers just grabbed a sound effect to reflect ANY shot fired or if they intentionally used what is clearly the sound of a RIFLE being fired. I guess time will tell. The theory of a long range shooter is curious but Sayid also clearly sees someone right in front of them. This could support the very idea of what was seen. Shannon was gunned down by a long range shot (perhaps the french chick) and Ana was just at the wrong place at the wrong time looking guilty as all hell....

But then again we have two more weeks to dream up any number of theories....

I think that you are right, and that AL probably shot at somebody else and not shannon, or perhaps she was shooting at someone or something else and ended up hitting Shannon. I think that this will be easily resolved by the time we find out "what kate did" because Mike and Jin will easily be able to vouch for what happened from the AL end of the incident. I think that while Sayid's face was SOOOOO CRAZY when he looked up from a dead or dying Shannon, even with all his rage he would take Mike and Jin's word for it if they said that it was a true accident. I think that is why it seems like everybody is fine and dandy by the time we get to the episode where we see them all together If AL shot to protect Shannon, as some predict, then I CANT WAIT to see the murderous rampage that Sayid will go on. I mean, he tortured Sawyer just to get her inhaler, and thats BEFORE they hooked up, so you know he is good for it!


Ana Lucia is a tough character so her shooting Shannon by accident is exactly what I was thinking. Look what she was going to do to Sawyer, she was just going to leave him. She talked about him slowing them down. I don't think she cares about anyone who she doesn't trust and she doesn't know the other Losties. she only knows about the "others" and she might assume that Shannon was one of the "others". I would like to see what Sayid's reaction will be and it won't be pretty for AL. When he saw the gun in her hand it looked to me like he had murder in his eyes. I don't think Shannon was stabbed either. She was shot by a gun.

the easy scenario though is this...Ana saw Walt and fired upon what she feared was one of the Others but instead striking Shannon. If each of the Tailies saw Walt then that might explain their stunned silence. Because in all honesty if I was Jin or Michael and I just saw Ana shoot Shannon, I would have immediately ran to her without hesitation. I would have responded or reacted. I would not just be standing there stupified.

Something has those three guys stopped in their tracks and that leads me to believe that they are not standing in front of Sayid and Shannon. My best guess is that Cindy startled them and caught a slug from Ana.

So...after agreeing with every possible theory I will take a stand now and say that Sayid and Shannon are not in front of the Tailies. This episode was cleverly edited. And I still maintain that the shot heard was a rifle shot. My two cents have been officially spent!

I was thinking the same thing. It just didn't seem to add up:

1. Shannon seemed to be way too obvious of a choice.

2. Cindy also went missing.

3. She was only shot once, and in the stomach. Not good for her by any means, but not exactly a death sentence either.

4. There was no real confirmation that she died. No dramatic head slumping, no dying words, no last breath, no checking of the pulse.

5. This would not be anywhere near the first time we have been misled in this fashion.

Can't wait to see what happens!

We must remember some things..

Bait and switch is a big part of this show.
Desmond is also in the Jungle...
Danielle is in the Jungle with a rifle.
Why would Walt run toward something that would lead to Shannon getting shot, stabbed or anything when he seemed to be communicating through her?
Ana is a trained law enforcement agent of some kind. She would not shoot the first thing popping out of the bushes...especially if she had one bullet.

Shannon's charector has really no value...she could be in cahoots with TPTB to make people think she is going bye bye...

Also, in response to some of the posts about whether or not Ana Lucia was the shooter, I seem to remember her gun having the slide racked back, as automatic handguns do when the last round is fired, and we know their gun only had 1 bullet in it.

Here's a screenie:

http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-caps/season2/2x06-abandoned/9/abandoned-cap881.jpg

And following the pic of the slide being back, we get the screenie of a left hand holding a gun but the slide is not back.

I'll eat crow if I am wrong but The tailies and Sayid are not in the same location. Got nothing else to do on a day off so I guess I gotta rewatch this scene again.

Okay, just found something that may mean I will have crow sandwich tonight....

http://soulykeeper.proboards25.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=clues2&thread=1131647023&page=1

It's not a gun. bahski!

Shannon was stabbed guys, Closeup of the wound shows a slit about 6 inches long. Check out lost-media.
Njc----------

Okay, just found something that may mean I will have crow sandwich tonight....

http://soulykeeper.proboards25.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=clues2&thread=1131647023&page=1

It's not a gun. bahski!

Hmmmm...that's crazy. I havent seen that before. I have watched that scene (and even frame-by- frame'd the entire sequence) and I didnt notice that. I wish I had the episode here at work =[

That thing either looks like some sort of stabbing weapon or possibly the barrell of a rifle.

We must remember some things..
Shannon's charector has really no value...she could be in cahoots with TPTB to make people think she is going bye bye...

Thats what I think could be happening.........I mean, if they really want us to think she is dead, it would be the best way to do it, have her 'leave' the set, and do all the "oh I'm dead now" talk show interviews and everything......then the surprise would be even bigger if she turns out not to be dead. I'm not saying that this is what IS the truth, just saying that it could be a possibility, and I have learned not to underestimate the skills of the good doctor......I mean, a BLOOD TRANSPLANT using found items that leads to NO complications whatsoever for the donor? And lets not forget that he miraculously saved Sarah, the girl he married...........

I still like the theory that Cinday got lost, ran into a running shannon panicked and stabbed her (remember Shannon and Sayid are strangers to the Tailies and vice versa) then AL comes upon Cindy and shoots her before realizing what she has done. Law inforcement or not any person in this level of stress could fire off a panic shot.

Cindy may survive and Shannon may as well who knows Shannons wound looks like a an Ax wounds not a knife or bullet wound but she is soaking wet so a fast bleeding wound could turn into what looks like a large cut in a hurry.

Though like everything else it is just a theory if we knew all the answer why would we watch.

aaaaaah, no i think it'll be TWO WEEKS before we get this resolved, since next week's episode is "the other 48 days" and just coveres the tailaways' experiences up to present...

I read somewhere that the next episode presents the tailies' first 48 days in the island as flashbacks, looking back at the island's past instead of an individual's past. If it's like all the other episodes with flashbacks, there will also be a story in the present time, which may be the continuation of the open-mouthed, shocked stare-fest between Sayid, the tailies, and the rescued rafties (excluding Shannon on account of being probably dead and Sawyer on account of being unconscious or delirious). Of course, it could always be a story featuring other castaways.

Sawyer is in pretty bad shape himself, so that leaves 3 possibilities. TPTB never said it would be a female character that dies. It's the spoilers that have said that. The spoilers also said we wouldn't know who the murderer was until a later episode so what's fact and what's fiction.

if Sawyer is dead I'm never watching again.

This is from USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-11-10-lost-death_x.htm. This came out last Thursday.

How about this...Could Cindy have killed Shannon?

I'm of a mind that Shannon's death and all the official producer discussion of it and Maggie Grace's contract are all part of an elaborate misdirection. They need at least one instance of rumors being dead wrong so we'll never be sure if a rumor we hear is reliable.

I'm waiting to see the Shannon corpse before I write her off.

I'm of a mind that Shannon's death and all the official producer discussion of it and Maggie Grace's contract are all part of an elaborate misdirection. They need at least one instance of rumors being dead wrong so we'll never be sure if a rumor we hear is reliable.

I'm waiting to see the Shannon corpse before I write her off.


I said this on another thread.....Also in this episode Rose said to Hurley something like "We wouldn't want to spoil ourselves now would we?" That was supposed to be directed to all of us in spoiler land. But there could be a hidden message here that the "spoilers" that we have all come ot read and love really threw us for a loop!!! There were al AWFUL lot of spoilers about this death...I am sure the producers could have thought about throwing us for a BIG HUGE loop!!!

My only show-oriented basis for my feeling is that we didn't get any payoff with Shannon seeing Walt and hearing him backtalk her.

He said "Don't push the button. The button is bad". Why her if the producers knew as far back as last spring that she wasn't going to be on the show very long? If she's really dead, who now knows that Walt said something? I don't think she relayed it to Sayid.

Unless Walt's dialogue was just for us viewers. But that's poor storytelling and there were plenty of other ways and other people to have Walt appear to.

Does this make sense? I think I lost my train of thought.


I think we are in for a big gotcha.

This is from USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2005-11-10-lost-death_x.htm. This came out last Thursday.

don't have much faith in any of these types of articles. in this case, the writer states shannon was shot in the chest. it looked to me like a belly wound.

this is a classic case of "watch my right hand while i pick your pocket with my left"--as we've seen so many times on the show.

personally, i'm not convinced shannon was shot at all--she could very well have been stabbed by an Other (why would walt warn shannon if someone she knew--jin, michael--was coming??) if shannon was, in fact, shot, i think an anonymous shooter (most likely rousseau--i don't see a motive for desmond to kill her, unless simply fear of the unknown), did it, and that shannon may not be dead at all. i tend to be of the thought that cindy is the one who is "lost forever"--another case of misdirection. if AL did fire the gun at all (to me, a really big if), my assumption is that she fired at what she presumed to be/was an Other, and that it was not near to where shannon and sayid were (eko estimated they were a day or so out of the losties camp--don't think shannon and sayid were that far out). also, as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, jin and michael's reaction to the shooting doesn't fit. if it was someone they knew who had been shot, and that person was within their line of sight (thus AL's line of sight/aim, as well), they would have run over to see what they could do, etc. (especially jin--we've seen him run to get jack when claire was delivering, etc. jin's a helper). considering this same notion from sayid's perspective, i would think if he saw jin, michael, etc., he would have reacted differently (granted he had a wounded/dead shannon, but imagine your reaction if you saw someone you thought was on a raft in the ocean--or dead right in front of you).

of course, like all of us, i have no idea--and won't--until tptb decide to let me in on the joke...

Shannon's wound looked VERY life threatening to me. I am not convinced
she was shot--but that's a whole separate discussion.

I really think Shannon IS the death that the preview alluded to with "lost forever".

Cindi was not really a part of the show yet. Will she be missed by many?
I don't think so, at least not for long.

If there is a twist, it will be that Shannon was stabbed, and Ana Lucia shot the
killer.
or maybe the person who stabbed Shannon is someone we all know and love!
that would be a real shocker.

I'll be really surprised if it turns out AL shot Shannon. :)

those screencaps of Shannon's tummy look like a hatchet wound or something...

Shannon's wound looked VERY life threatening to me. I am not convinced
she was shot--but that's a whole separate discussion.

I really think Shannon IS the death that the preview alluded to with "lost forever".

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And on the ABC podcast they pretty much said that...

Spoiler font just because I can, and in case somebody doesn't want to hear what Damon Lindelof has to say on the matter...
Shannon is dead. They stated that a lot that she is dead. They also mentioned that it appears that the shooting was an accident. They did leave a little bit of a question on that.

I'm still not convinced she's dead - no matter what they are saying because
1) her backstory was incomplete
2) I didn't Maggie doing the talk show circuit - no Good Morning America interview - no Regis & Kelly - Ian was on EVERYTHING after Boone was killed.

I've flipped and flopped on this a couple of times. I'm back to thinking that she is indeed dead. Here is my roundabout proof.

The key is Walt. And Vincent. Vincent is sort of the receiver for Walt's psychic distress calls or visitations or whatever it is that he's doing. The reason why Shannon was given Vincent to watch out for was so that down the line, she would be the person getting the messages/visions from Walt. I always thought it was strange that they made such a point of Shannon having to look after Vincent. But Shannon has only gotten visions when Vincent was around.

So during the course of Abandoned, we had Sayid come into the circle and now he is seeing Walt, and still only when Vincent is around. What is going to happen is that Sayid, distraught over Shannon's death, will carry on her responsibility of being Vincent's caretaker until Walt returns. This will allow Walt to continue to appear to Sayid.

Abandoned was as much about the transfer of Vincent as it was about Shannon's backstory.

Good theory, will be interesting to see who takes care of Vincent. It might be very illuminating if it turns out to be Sayid, although Michael might end up doing so since he has just returned.

ok, so it seems like tonight we got to stand back and see what really happened. Looks like it was as simple as that............guess there was no misdirection at all. It was a good idea anyways. I love this show and just CANT WAIT to see what else the writers have got up their sleeves........

All it did was confirm that Shannon's backstory was incomplete - I'm really disappointed in that. It makes me wonder if the holes in the other back stories will ever be filled in.

All I am saying is that there are some holes in the backstories that if they dont get filled in I will go BONKERS......like, if they never tell us why Locke was in a wheelchair, or what happened when Claire was abducted, I will lose my cool........there are some holes that can just be left open, but some are just, well.......KEY

The wound in Shannon's stomach looks more like a knife wound that a gunshot wound. Leading to the possibility that some "other" person killed Shannon and Ana Lucia then shot the other person. And the shock on everyone's faces would be just same for this situation.

Are we finally done with this?

Are we finally done with this?

I don't know... if you look closely at the crossword puzzle from "Collision", on the very top, it clearly spells out "IT IS A KNIFE WOUND". I can only theorize that the clue was "what really killed Shannon?"

I'm of a mind that Shannon's death and all the official producer discussion of it and Maggie Grace's contract are all part of an elaborate misdirection. They need at least one instance of rumors being dead wrong so we'll never be sure if a rumor we hear is reliable.

I'm waiting to see the Shannon corpse before I write her off.
The pilot is still alive.
So is Boone thank you very much.
Not to mention Doc Arzt, who disappeared just before the blast.
Never forget Turbine Guy, he came out in one piece on the other side of the engine.
And the plane never left Sidney:confused: