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Monkey
11-16-2005, 11:21 PM
Nathan from Canada


Ethan Rom From Canada

They both had a similar look and build. Now we know that Nathan wasn't an Other like Ethan but why the co-incidence?

wolffootball37
11-16-2005, 11:24 PM
i guess maby to throw us off. i was sure beliveng he was the talies ethan.

metallidevils
11-16-2005, 11:24 PM
i thought the exact same thing...thats why i really thought that nathan was an other, he had too many coincidences with ethan

darkpiranha
11-16-2005, 11:36 PM
Right before he answered "Canada", I turned to my wife and son and said it, thinking that Nathan was Ethan's brother or something. I knew he was going to be from Canada.

But they got me. I fell for it. I think that whole thing was just to fool even us obsesses fans.

galaxygirl
11-16-2005, 11:37 PM
I know it, he was giving me serious Ethan vibes from the start. I'm not totally convinced that Nathan wasn't an Other. I said that he was from Canada before he answered the question.

Pulpy Austinite
11-16-2005, 11:39 PM
who says Ethan is an other?

waltisfuture
11-16-2005, 11:45 PM
Nathan was dark haired and Goodwin was light haired as well. I think they tricked us all this time, especially throwing in that Nathan was from Canada.

Having Goodwin in the Peace Corps was a nice touch too.

i_love_dmjgmfna
11-16-2005, 11:47 PM
I really thought Nathan was the tailie's Ethan. I'll admit it. They got me good. :smile:

rvarzea
11-16-2005, 11:48 PM
Definitely was just to throw us off. My wife and friend were sure that Nathan was "the other", but I called it! WHOO HOO!! :)

PosseGal
11-16-2005, 11:52 PM
Nathan from Canada

Ethan Rom From Canada

They both had a similar look and build. Now we know that Nathan wasn't an Other like Ethan but why the co-incidence?

You know, I thought the same thing. Which makes me wonder if Ethan was really an Other, or if there is someone with the Fusies who is an infiltrator and pinned it on Ethan, the same way Goodwin pinned it on Nathan.

Maybe there is a fusie that we haven't met yet that is their version of Goodwin.

Cue dramatic music :o

janiegirl653
11-17-2005, 12:14 AM
You know, I thought the same thing. Which makes me wonder if Ethan was really an Other, or if there is someone with the Fusies who is an infiltrator and pinned it on Ethan, the same way Goodwin pinned it on Nathan.

Maybe there is a fusie that we haven't met yet that is their version of Goodwin.

Cue dramatic music :o

I'd have to disagree with this theory given Ethan's behaviors....Stealing Claire, beating down Jack, hanging Charlie. No real room for framing him here. Pretty clear to me.

Maybe I missed something?

conwaym2003
11-17-2005, 12:19 AM
Maybe Ethan's actions may look bad, but its for the greater good. If Ethan was on the island before the fussies, he knows more about what is going on then they do. So we just assume the people who crashed know what they are doing, but maybe Ethan is really doing something right that we aren't aware of yet.

ForeverLost19
11-17-2005, 12:48 AM
Which makes me wonder if Ethan was really an Other, or if there is someone with the Fusies who is an infiltrator and pinned it on Ethan, the same way Goodwin pinned it on Nathan.

Well, even if Ethan was not one of the Others, he definitely was not one of the good guys.

bemayo
11-17-2005, 12:50 AM
In regards to whether or not Ethan was one of the others, I am all but positive that one of the creators (Damon?) verified in TV Guide that Ethan Rom was an anagram for "Other Man". To me, that makes it pretty clear he is supposed to be one of the Others.

As far as the similarity in names between Nathan and Ethan, plus the Canada thing, it was a deliberate red herring. They sure had me fooled.

teridactyl
11-17-2005, 12:51 AM
i really liked goodwin. i thought too bad they killed when he was ana were first talking. he would have been a good character. boy was i fooled!

carodeluxe
11-17-2005, 12:54 AM
Here's my theory about Nathan: He wasn't "good" for the Others, meaning he wasn't pure of character, so therefore I think that when he was gone for those two hours, he was off in the jungle with a salvaged issue of Playboy or something...

conwaym2003
11-17-2005, 01:18 AM
In regards to whether or not Ethan was one of the others, I am all but positive that one of the creators (Damon?) verified in TV Guide that Ethan Rom was an anagram for "Other Man". To me, that makes it pretty clear he is supposed to be one of the Others.

As far as the similarity in names between Nathan and Ethan, plus the Canada thing, it was a deliberate red herring. They sure had me fooled.

Yes but wasn't there an interview with Mapother saying that he wasn't really a bad guy on the show? Unfortunately I don't remember which post it was in, but I am more than positive it is in here somewhere. I mean if he was an "other" wouldn't he know that they were going after Walt and not Claire. Also, why would an other being helping Danielle is she is in a constant battle with them.

LosingIT
11-17-2005, 01:41 AM
What if the others tried to use Nathan's identity, but somehow misread the paper (or whatever), and the person called himself Ethan by mistake? By trying to be Nathan, he would say hat he was from Canada, as Nathan really was.

Thoughts?

ickes13
11-17-2005, 02:30 AM
First time post here so here it goes...
Isn't it possible that Ethan used that name because he had been to the other side of the island and knew of "Nathan" from Canada. So when posed with the question from Hurley in Season 1 about what his name was, he says Ethan. Remember that what was going on on one side of the island was happening on the other as well. "Ethan" was just trying to place himself on the plane......

Quiksilver13oi
11-17-2005, 02:31 AM
so what WAS he doing in the jungle for two hours then?

jericho73
11-17-2005, 02:36 AM
We can assume Ethan showed up right after the crash, as Goodwin did, to mingle into the group of survivors with all the chaos going on. At that point he couldn't have know there was a Nathan from Canada on the other side of the island.

silveranswer
11-17-2005, 02:36 AM
so what WAS he doing in the jungle for two hours then?

Same thing Hurley was doing after being on the island diet for a couple weeks!

I think he was just kind of a jerk and wondering - like a lot of us- who the heck made Ana queen of the jungle?

EyeAmLost
11-17-2005, 02:39 AM
ethan was an "other" and nathan was a "them".

why are the tailies calling them "them" and the other lostaways call them "others"?

Quiksilver13oi
11-17-2005, 02:40 AM
ethan was an "other" and nathan was a "them".

why are the tailies calling them "them" and the other lostaways call them "others"?

lol cuz the lostaways had the priviledge of having a crazy french lady dub them "others"

EyeAmLost
11-17-2005, 02:46 AM
lol cuz the lostaways had the priviledge of having a crazy french lady dub them "others"


lol. maybe.

off topic here but the tite of the episode from season one, "Raised by Another" makes me think of the children they kidnapped being raised by an "other"? connection?

PitStop
11-17-2005, 02:51 AM
Here's what I think. (I posted this on another thread too, oops)

Nathan - normal guy on the plane who really is from Canada, but ends up stuck in a pit and killed by an other calling himself Goodwin.

When questioned by Hurley, other was supposed to say his name was Nathan from Canada, but screwed up the name and called himself Ethan from Canada...hence Hurley realized he was not on the manifest. If other hadn't screwed up, our original group would have had the same problem with people being taken. He (they) only got Claire before he got caught.

Goodwin - another name on the manifest if I'm not mistaken. I believe Claire calls it out at the funeral in first season.
so other takes name of Goodwin, but gets caught by Ana.

Now, how did they know to take these names of real passengers? Maybe the real Goodwin is dead, but obviously the real Nathan wasn't originally.

My theory and I'm sticking to it! :biggrin: