After watching tonight's episode, an old theory popped back into my head.

Rumours swirled all summer that the plane crew was part of the conspiracy to get the people of that plane to that island.

I was thinking about when people were saying that one of the others that took Walt was a flight attendant, well we know that Cindy was. Cindy also told them that they needed to stay on the beech or they would not be able to be seen from the rescue team, to me it seems like she was part of others.

Also I read that people think Libby had something to do with Cindy disappearing, but I think that she just walked away, her part of the mission was over now that the tailies and losties we about to be reunited.

What the others are I'm not sure but I do think they might be part of the Dharma Initiative.

Another thing I just thought of was that Cindy helped point the finger at Nathan when she said she did not remember him from the plane and she is usually very good at remembering faces, and that just fueled Ana's fire.

then again Libby also made her suspicions of him known as well but I still think that it's Cindy



What do you think, am I totally crazy.







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Well, isn't Cindy a psychologist? Wouldn't that fit in with the Dharma Initiative?

Well, isn't Cindy a psychologist? Wouldn't that fit in with the Dharma Initiative?

Libby is the psychologist.

I could see how Cindy could be thought of as an other. I think she might have mixed up Nathan and Goodwin in her head. After all they had been in a huge plane crash!

Well, isn't Cindy a psychologist? Wouldn't that fit in with the Dharma Initiative?

You're thinking about Libby (the blonde). Cindy is the brunette flight attendant.

There's a theory going around that the flight crew was in on it all, right?

I doubt that Cindy is an Other, however I do think she is working in collusion with them. So they were crashed on purpose, by the pilot. Maybe the flight crew gave the List to the Others. Maybe the pilot was killed in the Pilot because he would have revealed what was really going on, and that couldn't be allowed to happen.

I definitely need to be more careful. I had the two women straight but just jumbled their names up. Okay, backtracking here:

Original post: Cindy (flight attendant) may be an 'other'. (reasons given)

Point I wished to make: Libby, being a psychologist, may have some connection to the Dharma Institute (meaning Libby seems more suspicious to me than Cindy)

And would you believe that in writing this post, I mis-wrote Cindy again for Libby... and then I wrote "Libby seems more suspicious to me than Libby... went back to correct it and wrote the same thing again. I definitely need to go to bed!)

If that's the case then the only non others would be Eko, Ana Lucia, and Bernard.

If that's the case then the only non others would be Eko, Ana Lucia, and Bernard.

Wow, that would be crazy.

Cindy is the same stewardess who gave Jack the extra bottles of alcohol on the plane.

There's a theory going around that the flight crew was in on it all, right?

I doubt that Cindy is an Other, however I do think she is working in collusion with them. So they were crashed on purpose, by the pilot. Maybe the flight crew gave the List to the Others. Maybe the pilot was killed in the Pilot because he would have revealed what was really going on, and that couldn't be allowed to happen.

I thought TPTB has said more than once that the plane crash:
was not caused by anyone on the plane?

This was discussed once before nda the general thought was, "How would they be guaranteed that they would servive aplane crash mush less what part of the plane they should be in. Cindy, you take the tailend of the plane and afte it breaks off going 800 miles and hour and when it hits the water going 400 miles an hour hang in there girlfriend, the "Others" are coming to help you. Sorry I couldn't help myself.

YES -- Cindy was the stewardess who gave Jack the extra bottle of vodka!!!

This was discussed once before nda the general thought was, "How would they be guaranteed that they would servive aplane crash mush less what part of the plane they should be in. Cindy, you take the tailend of the plane and afte it breaks off going 800 miles and hour and when it hits the water going 400 miles an hour hang in there girlfriend, the "Others" are coming to help you. Sorry I couldn't help myself.

I'm not saying it makes sense, just that it's possible. Maybe the play was structured somehow? I have no idea.

I felt both Cindy and Libby acted suspiciously this episode.

Methinks Goody Cindy is a witch!

noob questions: what does TPTB mean?

it means the powers that be. the creators of the show.

I did find it suspicious that Cindy so readily agreed with the fact that she hadn't seen Nathan on the plane, but never made mention of Goodwin. And she did just disappear with no struggle or anything that caught anyone's attention. I believe there is something up with her being in on the whole experiment thing. I'm not really big on conspiracy theories, but I think there's something about her character.

As far as Libby goes, I didn't find anything suspicious about her behavior. I think she is just what she says she is. And there could be some interesting developments to the story with her character being what she says she is.

Cindy's behavior was odd, but I don't know if I think she is one of them. It's not hard to miss or forget someone on a plane, thus she probably wasn't lying that she didn't see Nathan on the plane. The fact she never mentioned that she didn't see Goodwin makes sense cause Goodwin wasn't on trial at the time. She wasn't thinking about whether she had seen Goodwin...

This was discussed once before nda the general thought was, "How would they be guaranteed that they would servive aplane crash mush less what part of the plane they should be in. Cindy, you take the tailend of the plane and afte it breaks off going 800 miles and hour and when it hits the water going 400 miles an hour hang in there girlfriend, the "Others" are coming to help you. Sorry I couldn't help myself.
exactly what i was thinking. i dont think that the crew could (or would) be in on this. after all how do you control a crash and guarantee any level of survival. simply put, I would flat out quit if I was called to a meeting with my boss and he said..."Ok...so were gonna crash you in this plane over the island..." I mean what paycheck is worth that.

The writers always have smarter answers than that. I dont think (and this is just me) that this would be considered a "smart" scenario. There is no real closure and it doesnt seem to me to be something that could really be played out

I def got the feeling that Cindy is an "other" all the reasons keep piling up, she did confirm to the tailies that Nathan wasnt on the plane, even though we know know that he probably was and the way she disappeared was sketchy, no noise, after seeing last nights epi, I didnt see where the others had any "ninja" abilities, so how could they take her without anyone hearing anything? Obviously there are all kinds ways that they could have taken her without them hearing but it seems a little suspect to me at this point. She may not be an "other" but last nights epi did cast some suspicion on her. (IMO) I didnt get any bad vibes from Libby, in fact i really like her character and hope to see more of her.

Wouldn't that be a bit of a risk? Having "others" ON the plane? I mean, a plane wreck is a plane wreck, there probably isn't a lot of certainty that you'll make it out alive. Plus, didn't the plane split in two? Like rip in half mid-flight? I don't remember the first episode, but wouldn't that indicate more of an attack, then a crash? Perhaps they got shot down /queue mystery music.

Wouldn't that be a bit of a risk? Having "others" ON the plane? I mean, a plane wreck is a plane wreck, there probably isn't a lot of certainty that you'll make it out alive. Plus, didn't the plane split in two? Like rip in half mid-flight? I don't remember the first episode, but wouldn't that indicate more of an attack, then a crash? Perhaps they got shot down /queue mystery music.
yes...this seems smarter. i am sure the crew was not in on it. i think the plane was targeted and brought down by someone (or someones) on the island. Shot down? dunno...but brought down...definitely....i think that would absolve the idea of any of the crew being in on this

I don't think that cindy was a part of the 'attacking others' but i do get a sense that she knows something or had a task to do. While its true that no paycheck would be worth it to know the plane would crash and be on it anyway, but what we don't know what to what extent she was involved or what information she was given as to what was going to transpire. I think libby is just another crash victim. But i like how someone said above that the others aren't exactly ninja-esque... they aren't. Cindy walked away

There's a theory going around that the flight crew was in on it all, right?

I doubt that Cindy is an Other, however I do think she is working in collusion with them. So they were crashed on purpose, by the pilot. Maybe the flight crew gave the List to the Others. Maybe the pilot was killed in the Pilot because he would have revealed what was really going on, and that couldn't be allowed to happen.

I doubt the pilot caused the accident. A pilot could send a plane into a nosedive, but, as far as I know, he has no power to cause the tail section to shear off from the remainder of the fuselage.

Maybe the plane was pulled down by the magnet. Stranger things have happened on the island.

Cindy = not an other.

I'm biased though.

I don't think the Cindy as Other theory works at all.

If Cindy, a flight stewardess, is an Other, why do the Others all wear ratty old Dockers? You would think their resources would be a bit more...uh...resourceful than that if they can infiltrate Oceanic Airlines.

This theory qualifies as "reaching" to me.

I don't think Cindy was taken by the others. I think she is still around during Shannon's killing. I just have a feeling she's not gone. I'm sure I'll be proven wrong but that's my gut feeling right now.

Maybe the plane was pulled down by the magnet. Stranger things have happened on the island.

OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH, I like that theory. If "the others" saw the plane...which was flying in the wrong direction for 2 hours they might have flipped a switch that made the magnet strong. Something definately was pulling at Jack's necklace in the hatch so....hmmmmmmmm...interesting theory.

I don't think the Cindy as Other theory works at all.

If Cindy, a flight stewardess, is an Other, why do the Others all wear ratty old Dockers? You would think their resources would be a bit more...uh...resourceful than that if they can infiltrate Oceanic Airlines.

This theory qualifies as "reaching" to me.


Why was Goodwin wearing normal clothes?, he was clearly an other, Cindy just seems fishy, just as the pilot did. Maybe they seem fishy because they (Pilot and Cindy) needed to give the lines that they were off course and nobody was going to find them because they were employeed by oceanic and would know. But I find it plausible that they are also in on it. If everyone was brought there for a reason then there has to be some sort of conspiracy. You could be right, but I dont think its reaching at all, at least no more reaching than the pilot is in on it. She did keep them on the beach, convince them that Nathan wasnt on the plane and disappeared in a suspicous fashion.

actually everyone is an other and its all a trick to fool the audience oh ho ho

Cindy ia an other because she was on the plane and a flight attendant
Jack is an other because he came out of the jungle
Libby as an other because she is a psychologist - OMG. I guess anyone who went the zoo is an Other, too because one of the Dharma fields is Zooloogy.

Seriously people, you need to lighten up on the conspiracy theories. Here's an idea - try having some evidence for these theories before making them.

actually everyone is an other and its all a trick to fool the audience oh ho ho

Cindy ia an other because she was on the plane and a flight attendant
Jack is an other because he came out of the jungle
Libby as an other because she is a psychologist - OMG. I guess anyone who went the zoo is an Other, too because one of the Dharma fields is Zooloogy.

Seriously people, you need to lighten up on the conspiracy theories. Here's an idea - try having some evidence for these theories before making them.

Where's your evidence that she is not? We dont really need evidence to speculate. I've stated why I think she may be.

You could be right, but I dont think its reaching at all, at least no more reaching than the pilot is in on it.

Well, yeah, but to say that the pilot is an Other is *really* reaching. I mean, think for a minute about the assumptions one has to make to reach the conclusion that the pilot was an Other:

* the pilot attended flight school and logged all the necessary training -- just so that he could deliver Jack and Co. to Lost Island.
*the pilot knew the plan was going to crash, yet apparently took no safety precautions, because when the plan crashed, he was still in the cockpit, unconscious.
*the pilot's first act was to try to retrieve the radio -- not something an Other would be likely to care about
*the pilot's second act was to get gobbled up by the Monster -- not something an Other would be likely to let happen.

Yes, I'd say that assuming the pilot was an Other is quite a stretch indeed.

Well, yeah, but to say that the pilot is an Other is *really* reaching. I mean, think for a minute about the assumptions one has to make to reach the conclusion that the pilot was an Other:

* the pilot attended flight school and logged all the necessary training -- just so that he could deliver Jack and Co. to Lost Island.
*the pilot knew the plan was going to crash, yet apparently took no safety precautions, because when the plan crashed, he was still in the cockpit, unconscious.
*the pilot's first act was to try to retrieve the radio -- not something an Other would be likely to care about
*the pilot's second act was to get gobbled up by the Monster -- not something an Other would be likely to let happen.

Yes, I'd say that assuming the pilot was an Other is quite a stretch indeed.

Because we've never seen groups who were willing to go to flight school, and train for months to learn to fly an airplane for one event on one day that they may or may not live through? A major theme of this show is "The Greater Good," after all. And maybe he or the dead pilot thought what they were doing was for the greater good...

Also, the pilot may have not known the the plan was to crash the plane, but perhaps he knew he had to fly it off course...what happened, the crash, was just as much a surprise to him as it was to the passengers. I think he and the flight crew knew something, but perhaps not the entire plan.

Well, yeah, but to say that the pilot is an Other is *really* reaching. I mean, think for a minute about the assumptions one has to make to reach the conclusion that the pilot was an Other:

* the pilot attended flight school and logged all the necessary training -- just so that he could deliver Jack and Co. to Lost Island.
*the pilot knew the plan was going to crash, yet apparently took no safety precautions, because when the plan crashed, he was still in the cockpit, unconscious.
*the pilot's first act was to try to retrieve the radio -- not something an Other would be likely to care about
*the pilot's second act was to get gobbled up by the Monster -- not something an Other would be likely to let happen.

Yes, I'd say that assuming the pilot was an Other is quite a stretch indeed.

Well I guess we just see it different. Think of all the assumptions you just made.

The pilot could have been a pilot before he got involved in the plot, so going to flight school just to deliver Jack and Co. is an assumption.

The radio doesnt really seem like a big deal if he knew that it wouldnt work. Your assuming the radio could actually help.

Do you find it suspicous that he remains knocked out for 16 hours but when kate and Jack show up, he suddenly wakes up, is concious enough to give them valuable info, and then just disappears (well eaten) or was he?, it def could have been a ploy and it doesnt take a whole lot of imagination to get there.

I'm not saying him or cindy are or are not "others" but I just dont agree that its a big stretch.

Not for nothing - but I can't see that they were in on it and brought down the plane, well let me re-phrase that - BROKE THE PLANE IN HALF for a reason - to come to that island. I think either a magnetic force did it. Let's think about this, something there keeps drawing people in and tragically - the shipwrecks of Danielle and Desmond, the Nigerian priest's plane that Boone went in, I can believe the magnetic theory, but I cannot believe them purposely crashing the plane, especially how the plane broke apart like it did.

Another reason I believe that Cindy is not an "other"..."Others" are already there, she was a stewardess on the plane. Secondly, I see the dedication these people have, but come on - if this was a "Pre-planned" crash, it would have been a suicide mission. I can't buy that the pilot and the stewardess who were supposedly in on it would have both survived. I just can't see it.

What I can see is this. Cindy told them that the pilot told her they were going 2hrs in the wrong direction. She kept this to herself until then because flight attendants are told not to say anything to alarm the passengers...And I believe that Cindy only said she didn't see Nathan was because she thinks she has this great "I know a face when I see it" gift. The size of the plane could seat probably 300 people or so. He may have been in another part of the coach cabin and came to use the bathroom and wasn't from Cindy's section. You can't be in how many places at once. Now as far as her disappearing, all I can say is this, maybe she was taken by one of the "others" as she was walking. They don't make any noise...they could have muzzled her with something and brought her into the jungle. Who knows? All speculation on my part.

Because we've never seen groups who were willing to go to flight school, and train for months to learn to fly an airplane for one event on one day that they may or may not live through?

Okay, will you at least conceded that there's a *huge* difference between going to flight school so that you can hijack a plan and having a career as a commercial airline pilot?

I can't believe we're even debating this. I like theories, but I think we have to keep them plausible.

I can't believe we're even debating this. I like theories, but I think we have to keep them plausible.

Plausible like an invisible monster that stalks the woods, like 50 or 60 people surviving a 800 foot plunge into the ocean and jungle or how about a wheelchair bound man who survives a plane crash and can now miraculously walk. There are so many parts of this story that are not plausible, but its fiction so you have to let it go.

I'm a proponent of the 2 groups of others, 2 infiltrators theory. I think Nathan was an infiltrator for one group (Ethan's?), and Goodwin for the group that we saw taking people. Goodwin ASSUMED Nathan was on the plane, not knowing he was another plant for another group and killed him. But that's another thread anyways:smile:

As for Cindy, I'm really not sure. Her disappearance is suspect. So far from this most recent episode, we know that the Others HAVEN'T taken anybody quietly. The first attacked woke everybody up when Eko resisted. The second was a chaos filled scream fest. They are quiet, but they are not that quiet. I think Cindy left on her own, or was taken some other (pun) way. She also was really helpful in getting Nathan in the pit, and backing up the staying on the beach idea. Was this help directed to Goodwin? Too early to tell, like everything else on this show:biggrin:

Also, there is no proof that the pilot is actually dead. He was swiped by the monster, then later found high up in the tree with his pin on the ground below. Maybe his role was to discourage the Lostaways from ever being rescued so they would actually start to make a life on the island. Once Jack, Charlie and Kate left, the pilot could climb down and rejoin the others.

The tearing in half of the plane could have been unintentional.

Maybe we need to look at everyone in 3 groups: The others (people already on the island), the passengers (are the focus of the show) and the crew (simply people who worked for the airline). In this case, the crew becomes separate, but not in the dual other/not other sense. They are pre-programmed in a sense b/c they are "responsible" for the crash, and they have training for such an event. The passengers are less "programmed" and can really cause any amount of randomness that they want. This theory could be unpacked ad nauseum, but may be worth a thread. In this case, Cindy is as good as bait since she is really periphery. I wouldn't necessarily buy that she wandered off.

I am not sure Cindy is an other. However, I think her and the pilot could be involved in the Dharma project and were put on the plane to assist in taking it off course. They (Cindy and Pilot) may have been willing to sacrifice their lives for the project, eventhough there was a chance of their survival. If they believed in the necessity of the "projects" it is not crazy to think they would be willing to die for it.

I think a lot of people are reading a little too much into this all.

It would be nice to think a plane crew would intentionally crash a plane knowing they'd survive, but I think the idea is preposterous. When plane crashes have survivors, those who live are usually pretty random. There's no discrimination. Some people get bounced around and die from those injuries. Others die from the impact itself. Others yet die from cabin fire and flying debris. One person can live unscratched and the person next to them gets completely decimated.

There are a lot of things to take into consideration, so to 'risk' one's self by taking the random chance you'll survive the crash is a little silly.

What I find strange about her disappearance is that if it was the others that took her, wouldn't her name have been on the list? If it was, wouldn't the tailies have been extra cautious about protecting her?

Let me be the realist and you tell me.

Isn't it completely logical that as part of the flight crew Cindy knew things the other passengers didn't. That the plane was off course by 200 miles seems pretty huge to me. Wouldn't that alone be jusitifcation enough to stay on the beach if you were her. I beleive she said, "they don't know where to look."

How could the Dharma initiative possible determine who can survive a plane crash. The best engineers couldn't determine who could mathmatically survive when a plane splits as this one did.

Isn't it logical that everyone is a little paranoid after seeing your fellow survivors getting ubducted from right underneath your nose without ever seeing much. Isn't it logical you would also be freaked out by the list and intelligence of the apparent others.

There was no flight manifest to give anyone. The Lagees have it and there is only one on every plane. Couldn't Goodwin have gotten to know the people who crashed and provided intelligence on them? Just like Ethan did. We have seen this before.

Sorry guys, I think you are totally reaching and avoiding the obvious.

The questions I am asking is why did they take her now? Did they just realize she is a good person?

I think Cindy is not one of the others. I think her going missing will turn out to be something simple. I am thinking that Locke saw them all and snuck up behind them and took her while they others didn't see. They were right there near the fuselage people as they got to the top of the ridge, so it is possible he was right there.

exactly...why not before, along with the others that were on the list...

I never expected Cindy to be able to make it to the other group. For the one reason that Kate is a bigger character than she is. Cindy would know that Kate was a criminal on the flight, and may even know why she was a criminal. Cindy would then see Kate, and remember her in handcuffs, and the writers are not yet ready to reveal this to us and to the other survivors. I think that at some point, Kate will come across Cindy in the woods and all will be revealed to the viewer.

I think Cindy is not one of the others. I think her going missing will turn out to be something simple. I am thinking that Locke saw them all and snuck up behind them and took her while they others didn't see. They were right there near the fuselage people as they got to the top of the ridge, so it is possible he was right there.
what about Locke's little piece of paper? another list?

I, too, find it hard to believe that a plane can be (what i remember was 1000miles) off course just because they lost radio contact. That is a huge distance and i thought big planes like that were equipped with not only knowlegable pilots but computor susytems that had maps, coordinates, etc. Granted they did turn around but come on people cant you back track a little better than 1000 miles off course?


Cause of the obvious explosion of the plane in air? I dont know. Could it have been planned?...thats a stretch too.

Desmond was a scared little man and I dont think he has a clue as to anything else than what he told.

No i dont have answers but i agree with diggitydirge...we are totally reaching and avoiding the obvious.

You got to remembe that a majority of people that watch this show dont get online and find all of these crazy web sites and read all of these message boards. They are totally happy with the show and their own anticipation of the next episode. Like i said before the writers are genius....show watcher only, online investigator, life obssessed lost fanatic...we all enjoy the show in our own way...you can make it what you want, but it is a tv show that has great entertainment value on its own without all of the web hype....my two cents.....:biggrin:

Cindy would then see Kate, and remember her in handcuffs, and the writers are not yet ready to reveal this to us and to the other survivors. I think that at some point, Kate will come across Cindy in the woods and all will be revealed to the viewer.

Wait, didn't Sawyer already out Kate as the prisoner, right before he left on the boat? (In Exodus, Part One, I think).

Regarding if " Others " were on the plane or not, I direct you to http://www.oceanic-air.com .
If you put your cursor under the header " All flights cancelled" you get the following messege...
I survived a horrific plane crash and am stranded on an island somewhere Northeast of Australia and Southwest of Hawaii. In the event that I am never found, please forward word of my fate to my parents.


Interesting isn't it ?

I could spend all day telling you about all of the hidden messages in these crazy web sites....that is merely one....:undecide:

what about Locke's little piece of paper? another list?

I think Tripdaddy is onto something. I mean we last saw Locke as he was quickly leaving Claire. He could have easily gotten there in time.

And what piece of paper does Locke have? I think I missed something.

I never expected Cindy to be able to make it to the other group. For the one reason that Kate is a bigger character than she is. Cindy would know that Kate was a criminal on the flight, and may even know why she was a criminal. Cindy would then see Kate, and remember her in handcuffs, and the writers are not yet ready to reveal this to us and to the other survivors. I think that at some point, Kate will come across Cindy in the woods and all will be revealed to the viewer.

The problem with that is that Kate has already been outed, Sawyer let her secret out when she tried to get his spot on the raft. Your right though, Cindy may know what it was that Kate did, which we dont know yet. It could be that TPTB needed a way for Cindy to disappear because only a few of the tailies are to become regulars, Ana, Eko, Bernard and Libby. So they make her vanish and never answer what happened to her. It leaves it open for us that believe she might be an "other" and for those that think she was kidnapped by the "others" and for her to come back in the future under whatever circumstance the writers see fit.

Aircraft are primarily made out of titanium and aluminium due to weight issues. Both metals have little to no magnetic attraction, thus the aircraft would be unattracted by a magnetic field.

I think Tripdaddy is onto something. I mean we last saw Locke as he was quickly leaving Claire. He could have easily gotten there in time.

And what piece of paper does Locke have? I think I missed something.
in the previous episode, Locke is seen holding a greenish piece of paper...when Claire approaches him, he quickly puts it away

The only thing is this, Kate got on board with the marshall, but she came in with a jacket/coat over her wrists...so Cindy very well might not know. Also, if Cindy was the one that gave Jack the extra bottles of alcohol and also was on the tail end of the plane when it split, she had alot of ground to cover not for nothing. The one thing I do believe she would know is Locke being in a wheelchair. People with handicapped seating are always seated first. And especially with them needing to carry him in...she could of definetly have seen that.

The only thing is this, Kate got on board with the marshall, but she came in with a jacket/coat over her wrists...so Cindy very well might not know. Also, if Cindy was the one that gave Jack the extra bottles of alcohol and also was on the tail end of the plane when it split, she had alot of ground to cover not for nothing. The one thing I do believe she would know is Locke being in a wheelchair. People with handicapped seating are always seated first. And especially with them needing to carry him in...she could of definetly have seen that. which certainly goes towards him not wanting Cindy to meet the rest of the survivors...this is a secret he has kept quiet about, except to Walt, possibly, and Boone, who is dead.

which certainly goes towards him not wanting Cindy to meet the rest of the survivors...this is a secret he has kept quiet about, except to Walt, possibly, and Boone, who is dead.

***shudders to think that Locke would do something like that***...(check out my avi & screenname... ;) )

There are so many possibilities, I'm hoping this one is not correct. I just think though that Locke is a very private man and doesn't want to share this with people. He may not even recognize her. I think her recognizing him is more plausible than the opposite. I would remember someone being carried physically on the plane, however, I might not remember what the flight attendant looked like - who knows?? We shall wait and see. Hey another theory - Danielle got her..LOL! Or maybe my other fav - Desmond!! Possibilities are endless.

I think Cindy is one of those people who's more of a "yes man" person. Says what you want to hear and says stuff to get herself heard. Kind of makes her feel important. I do not think she was one of the "Others" but do think that it's weird that the tailies didn't go looking for her when she disappeared.

Can someone clear something up for me regarding Cindy?

When we see Charlie jump out of his seat and run tot he washroom toward the front of the plane, doesn't Cindy chase him? Even if she headed for a safe seat as soon as the plane begane to shake...how did she end up in the back? Wouldn't she have taken the safest seat possible?

The only thing is this, Kate got on board with the marshall, but she came in with a jacket/coat over her wrists...so Cindy very well might not know. Also, if Cindy was the one that gave Jack the extra bottles of alcohol and also was on the tail end of the plane when it split, she had alot of ground to cover not for nothing. The one thing I do believe she would know is Locke being in a wheelchair. People with handicapped seating are always seated first. And especially with them needing to carry him in...she could of definetly have seen that.
Law Enforcement has to notify the flight crew when transporting a prisoner. It should also be noted on the manifest along with who is flying armed, kids travelling alone, etc.

Wouldn't that be a bit of a risk? Having "others" ON the plane? I mean, a plane wreck is a plane wreck, there probably isn't a lot of certainty that you'll make it out alive. Plus, didn't the plane split in two? Like rip in half mid-flight? I don't remember the first episode, but wouldn't that indicate more of an attack, then a crash? Perhaps they got shot down /queue mystery music.

I think the crash was an accident, I thnk that plane was being taken to that island, remember they were a 1000 miles off course, and they just happened to end up on that island. I think the other's are responsible for bringing them there, I just think that crash just happened

Can someone clear something up for me regarding Cindy?

When we see Charlie jump out of his seat and run tot he washroom toward the front of the plane, doesn't Cindy chase him? Even if she headed for a safe seat as soon as the plane begane to shake...how did she end up in the back? Wouldn't she have taken the safest seat possible?
yes, Cindy did chase him, and I don't understand how she made it to the tail section because she was knocking on the door when the plane started to really rock around

Cindy = not an other.

Agreed.

The only thing anyone can really pin on her was agreeing with AL. And how suspicious is that really? She was backing up our tailie heroine. The whole thing was basically to setup the surprise twist anyways, just like he said he was Canadian, which was supposed to set off our "Ethan" flag, when he was just a red herring. It was to get us believing AL, just like the other tailies did.

Beyond that, she was taken, as were, what, 12 other survivors? I thought the manner in which it happened was geniunely creepy; In broad daylight, and virtually in front of everyone.

There's a theory going around that the flight crew was in on it all, right?

I doubt that Cindy is an Other, however I do think she is working in collusion with them. So they were crashed on purpose, by the pilot. Maybe the flight crew gave the List to the Others. Maybe the pilot was killed in the Pilot because he would have revealed what was really going on, and that couldn't be allowed to happen.

I thought it was Goodwin who made the list of everyone and what they usually wore and gave it to the Others.. that makes sense right?

We don't know that Ana Lucia or Ecko were on the plane.

Could it be a huge plot twist for one of them to be "Others"?