My hubby and sister both said that he likely jumped into a seat when the turbulence started, and that's probably the explanation. But, did anyone else find it odd that that's where he was? I mean, Rose said he was in the bathroom...

i totally forgot she had said that.

Yes! I thought the very same thing.

:)

Rose said he went to the bathroom. He was either on his way to the bathroom or had just left it when the turbulance started. Since he didn't look like he wet himself I'm going to assume he had just left the bathroom when the turbulance hit and then he jumped into an open seat.

Rose said he went to the bathroom. He was either on his way to the bathroom or had just left it when the turbulance started. Since he didn't look like he wet himself I'm going to assume he had just left the bathroom when the turbulance hit and then he jumped into an open seat.

That was my assumption too.

That's what he did. Charlie did the same thing.

Nathan and Bernard sure spend alot of time in the bathroom.

Keep in mind...Charlie was in FIRST CLASS when the plane split yet ended up on the beach in the fuselage wreckage...how is this even remotely possible??

Bernard was in the loo but maybe had time to find a seat and hook up...of course...it would not be possible for him to survive the impact with a tree coming from that high up but we've seen worse cases of implausibility...

Dad - I thought Charlie made it back to Business Class, where Shannon and Boone were seated.

Not to my knowledge...he comes out of the restroom...falls..dodges the flying beverage cart and jumps in the first seat he finds from the bathroom.

If the bathroom was at the end of first class it may be the case he was in BC but normally the loo is in front of first class...someone correct me if i am wrong please.

Why was Bernard belted into a seat when every other survivor we've seen has not been? Jack was in the woods (bamboo, right? I still don't get how he ended up there without being impaled.), nowhere near a seat that we saw. Locke comes to lying on the beach-I'm guessing that he didn't unbuckle and walk away, since at that time he didn't know how to walk... No where else have we seen a survivor unbuckling themselves from a seat.

How did Bernard stay in his seat-or better yet, how did everyone else's seatbelt fail?

Good question. Everyone else is focusing on why Bernard was no longer in the bathroom but I think that was easily explained. More interesting to ponder why he stayed buckled in when no one else did. If the tailies had all stayed buckled, they would've drowned when they hit the water and if the fusies had stayed buckled, they would have died on impact. How did any of them get out of their seats?

How did Bernard stay in his seat-or better yet, how did everyone else's seatbelt fail?

Wow, even better question! :biggrin:

Why was Bernard belted into a seat when every other survivor we've seen has not been? Jack was in the woods (bamboo, right? I still don't get how he ended up there without being impaled.), nowhere near a seat that we saw. Locke comes to lying on the beach-I'm guessing that he didn't unbuckle and walk away, since at that time he didn't know how to walk... No where else have we seen a survivor unbuckling themselves from a seat.

How did Bernard stay in his seat-or better yet, how did everyone else's seatbelt fail?

The tail section of the plane was clearly still afloat briefly at the beginning of the show. A bunch of the tail-end survivors were able to unbuckle their seat belts and get out of the tail-section before if went under. I bet some didn't. Some of the belts did obviously come undone and there were bodies on the beach and in the water to prove it. Bernard got lucky. His belt didn't come undone but he surivived the fall belted to the seat. The guy sitting next to him wasn't so lucky.

The first question to enter my mind, was how in the world did Bernard get strapped
into a seat? And how did he survive the crash and end up in that tree?

The previous posters have good ideas, he probably did what Charlie did, grabbed
the first seat available and strapped in.

But of all the things I saw last night, Bernard perched in that tree...was the most
outlandish of all the things we have been treated to so far (aside from the fact that
any of them survived in the first place)!

Not to my knowledge...he comes out of the restroom...falls..dodges the flying beverage cart and jumps in the first seat he finds from the bathroom.

If the bathroom was at the end of first class it may be the case he was in BC but normally the loo is in front of first class...someone correct me if i am wrong please.

So, there is usually a loo inbetween first class and coach/business...they don't want us minions going into the fancy section! ;) I'll have to go take another look at that episode. BUT...I was wary of the fact that Bernard was supposed to be in the loo and not in a seat...a bit strange.:cool:

Very strange..another thing they have to answer too...to many things like this going on...it's supernatural fer sure..

welcome lostaddictAD..

why is it so unrealistic that Bernard made it to a seat when we clearly see Charlie do the same? If i was in the bathroom when or just coming out, and turbulance hit, id strap myself into the first seat i found!

Very strange..another thing they have to answer too...to many things like this going on...it's supernatural fer sure..

welcome lostaddictAD..

Hey thanks Baileysdad! :) Good to see I'm not alone!

Bernard said he was in the bathroom and when the turbulence started he left the bathroom and sat in a seat close to it. Am I the only one listening to the dialogue on this show? LOL

Hey thanks Baileysdad! :) Good to see I'm not alone!

You are definately not alone here lostaddictAD, Welcome to the Fuselage.

There is much to see and places to explore, sit back, strap in and enjoy your stay! :biggrin:

Bernard said he was in the bathroom and when the turbulence started he left the bathroom and sat in a seat close to it. Am I the only one listening to the dialogue on this show? LOL

Ya know, I missed that part, good ears huitquinze!! :biggrin:

no way should bernard survive hitting that tree:confused:

right at the begining we see a seat slam into ground.
the impact would have been around 120mph for bernard

remember,it's the sudden stop that kill's people not the fall (on top of that bernard hit
a tree!!....TPTB are having a giraffe:biggrin:


if TPTB come up with a believeable explanation for this,i'll be the first person
to congratulate them.

i will still watch it thought:hypocrit:

Hmm... Interesting thread. My fiancee asked the same thing right away: Wasn't he in the bathroom?

I, too, was under the belief that he probably got out of the bathroom and buckled up as soon as the turbulence got bad. However, I do like the question of why he is the only one that we seen buckled into a seat... It brings around my totally offbeat and wrong thinking that maybe him and Rose were in on it all somehow. He did have millions... yet it's still not really plausible. He sure makes a good plant, though, if he is one.

I completely agree. This episode only reaffirms that NOBODY should have been alive after this crash. It also reaffirms the suspicion that these people were placed where they landed, a la Jack in the Bambo, Bernard in the tree. Another question is why was the guy sitting right next to Bernie super squashed while he was unharmed. I have a hard time believing that what happened to one wouldn't happen to both without some sort of intervention.

I just think Bernard sat down at the first available seat. The thing that gets to me is that the dude next to him was very dead. But he didn't have a scratch on him....maybe just luck!

Bernard said he was in the bathroom and when the turbulence started he left the bathroom and sat in a seat close to it. Am I the only one listening to the dialogue on this show? LOL
:confused: Are you kidding? When did he say that? I don't remember him talking about his time on the plane at all...

My hubby and sister both said that he likely jumped into a seat when the turbulence started, and that's probably the explanation. But, did anyone else find it odd that that's where he was? I mean, Rose said he was in the bathroom...

It was probably the same thing that happened to Charlie. He hurried out of the bathroom and plopped himself into the nearest seat.

i'm thinking the guy sitting next to bernard died b/c he was the one who hit the tree. bernard probablly flung forward and back kinda jackknifing (ouch, broken back lol)

also, the seat belts didn't fail everyone, in the 1st section of the plane when kate, jack, charlie go to the cockpit, many people are still seated. also, in the main fuselage, i believe there were many dead people in there still, seatbelted in.... hmm i'm seems to me, its a good thing the belt broke lol the people who's did lived

Not to my knowledge...he comes out of the restroom...falls..dodges the flying beverage cart and jumps in the first seat he finds from the bathroom.

If the bathroom was at the end of first class it may be the case he was in BC but normally the loo is in front of first class...someone correct me if i am wrong please.
I thought Charlie belted himself into the Flight Attendant's seat facing backwards. I could be wrong, since that was a long time ago.

First thing I'd do is run to the nearest seat and strap myself in...

I dont know why he was in a seat, but I've got to say...that man is one great actor!
When he was up in that tree, I totally felt his fear! Brilliant!

Charlie was smakin it up in the lav when turb hit and he made it back to his seat and strapped himself in. I know. He was toward the fuselage and Bernard was in the tail section, but they still had time to get to their seats and buckle up. It isn't completely unheard of to survive plane crashes of such a magnitude, but this is television after all and, we do love a good mystery.

Not to my knowledge...he comes out of the restroom...falls..dodges the flying beverage cart and jumps in the first seat he finds from the bathroom.

If the bathroom was at the end of first class it may be the case he was in BC but normally the loo is in front of first class...someone correct me if i am wrong please.

I've been on planes where there were 3 or 4 sets of bathrooms stationed along the length of the plane. So they would be upfront, then another set (or two) would be in the middle of the economy class, with a final set right at the back.

Bernard and his wife were seperated for a reason. What is the reason? That we will wait to see, however, I disagree he certainly would have tried to make it back to his seat. He knew Rose was afraid of flying and with that turbulance he would have done everything to get to her and calm her. I do not believe he would have just found a seat and strapped himself in.

[quote=steveg;609803]Bernard and his wife were seperated for a reason. What is the reason?

"It's the oldest game in the world. Two sides, one black, one white." Locke, season one, referring to backgammon (or was he?).

I agree that Bernard surviving (lets forget about everyone else for now- thats a long shot but they could have got out, maybe- though i suspect that the tail hitting water at that speed would have pretty much disintegrated on the spot, anyhoo).
Lets look at what we know. The tail section came in from the sea. It hit the water hard at least 100meters at a guess, off-shore. and yet here we have bernard, how far inland, perched up in a tree.

Now, i can understand how he 'could' have got there, The tail was spinning as it came down and there was pieces flying everywhere,and if Bernard had somehow managed to find a seat close to where it broke then yeah, i suppose his could have been flung onto the island. But then to land in a tree and not be killed by the impact, or impaled on branches, it all stretching a bit thin.

Do they really need to show Bernard getting into a seat for people to know he got into a seat, and there was no conspiracy about it? Personally, unless the plane had already split, I'd of tried to get back to my wife, but it could be that after the plane split, Bernard got his *** into a seat and locked it down. Yeehaw. The thing that gets me is, Goodwin saved him, Goodwin got help for him. WHY? Why not stand there and say "You're gonna die old man, and my people are gonna come and take the kids, then we're gonna kill your wife on theother side of the isalnd too." Or somehting like that :)
Njc----------

My thought was that Bernard left the bathroom when the plane started shaking, rocking and rolling, and got into the first seat available for obvious safety reasons.
HOWEVER.....

The part that i find strange is that all of the tailies we see are in the water.. however Bernard and dead seat guy are strapped to their seats in a tree.. obviously not in the water. Though I haven't rewatched it yet.. i dont remember the plane coming from land out to sea.. something i'm curious about.. because if it came from that direction - perhaps bernard and dead seat guy fell out before the plane hit the water.. if it came from water towards land.. then thats weird... it would almost have to have them fly into the tree over the water...
and i also wonder how many other survivors could be lurking between the losties and tailies.. if the plane went over the island.. not sure i'm making this clear..

The tail was flipping end over end when we first saw it, and atleast one chair was "bounced" off the beach into camera. I think it's very possible they were "thrown" clear of the tail during one of these flips and launched into the jungle. I doubt bernard would have survived such an event, but from the looks of this crash I seriously doubt any one would have survived.
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And Charlie

My hubby and sister both said that he likely jumped into a seat when the turbulence started, and that's probably the explanation. But, did anyone else find it odd that that's where he was? I mean, Rose said he was in the bathroom...

Yeah I thought this was a little wierd too, he must have come out of the bathroom and then been walking back when the turbulence started so he sat down and buckled up.

Wouldn't it be interesting if Bernard took Charlie's seat? How far back was Charlie, and would it have been the first empty seat?