Kate's military Dad said that he didn't have the heart of a murderer, but he knew Kate would kill. As well, Kate's mom seems to know that she is capable of extreme acts and reports her to the authorities quickly. Also, a few episodes ago in Kate's last flashback, her mom completely freaks out when she sees her at the Hospital. Some people on the forum have suggested that there may be genetic experiments on the island to breed certain types of people. This may be a bit out there, but was Kate some sort of military experiment that was meant to breed a killer?

Interesting theory penyours.. I watched that scene a few times where her "dad" says he didn't tell her b/c he knew she would kill him (Wayne)....very interesting!

An experiment, that's interesting.

Last week Charlie said Kate must be on steroids when they were playing golf, so maybe she is "enhanced" in some way.

What kind of daughter would you have to be to lead your dad to believe you were the murdering type....

I think it is a fairly safe assumption that anyone (or entity) clever enough to envision and carry out a massive conspiracy ... is also clever enough to keep an eye on their creations.

Up until she made daddy go boom, I didn't have the feeling Kate had been living in a cave. I think if someone was breeding killers, they would keep them contained someplace.

I'm thinking Wayne isn't her Daddy either. She assumed he was because the guy she thought was Dad was in Korea at the time of her conception - - - and of course her mom never said anything.

So maybe she was conceived differently and neither one is her father. Who knows the truth? Her dad seemed to think Wayne was the dad but he might know more than he's letting on, especially considering he thought she would kill Wayne if she knew - so he must think she's violent because of SOMETHING.....

So, the only people who KNOW are the army dad, Wayne possibly (and he's dead now), and her mother (who's dying).

Since she didn't get to talk to her mother much when she saw her, do you think Kate knows the truth (assuming she was conceived by someone/something other than Wayne or Army dad)??? And if so, how did she find out? And does any of that have a connection with the little plane she cares about so much???

What kind of daughter would you have to be to lead your dad to believe you were the murdering type....
The dialogue when Kate and her military dad are speaking really stuck out to me. Also, in the diner her Mom seems terrified of what Kate might have done. There must be much more in Kate's past to make her own parents think of her as dangerous or a murderer.


I'm thinking Wayne isn't her Daddy either. She assumed he was because the guy she thought was Dad was in Korea at the time of her conception - - - and of course her mom never said anything.

So maybe she was conceived differently and neither one is her father. Who knows the truth? Her dad seemed to think Wayne was the dad but he might know more than he's letting on, especially considering he thought she would kill Wayne if she knew - so he must think she's violent because of SOMETHING.....

So, the only people who KNOW are the army dad, Wayne possibly (and he's dead now), and her mother (who's dying).

Since she didn't get to talk to her mother much when she saw her, do you think Kate knows the truth (assuming she was conceived by someone/something other than Wayne or Army dad)??? And if so, how did she find out?
How much does Kate know about who her Dad is? This could turn out to be important when considering that her reasons for killing her Dad are still a bit vague. Didn't she say something along the lines of 'He's part of me and he's bad' We know he abused his wife, but is there more?

Don't you get it...The real Saywer is Kate's dad!

Penyours - I really like this thought! Perhaps the experiment was funded by our very own Alvar Hanso?

I'm just thinking out loud here. I know Kate told Marshall man that Wayne had never touched her, but I think she was lying. I think he may have had inappropriate relations with her and that's why Army Dad thought she would kill him if she found out. It was the way he kept saying 'why now?". Because she realized the full impact of what happened. On top of all the other crap he had put her and her mother through, she realized just what a complete scumbag he was and thought he needed killing.

What I want to know is why she always wanted to run away (see her last flashback last season), and why her childhood sweetie "knew why". I have a feeling that's connected to the OP's theory somehow.

could someone give some more info on kate's army dad? name(on name tag or name on desk) aren't jin and sun korean? her dad was in korea. coinsidence?

Hi-This is my first post-I was just wondering if I am the only one who see'e a possible connection between Kate & Jin/Sun-I am not quite sure-aren't they from Korea? If they are from Korea that might connect them somehow to Kate-If I am wrong about Korea-please let me know!!! Thanks

Hmmm, I don't know. In my humble opinion, I don't think so though. I've kind of stopped analyzing every little word for innuendo, and just started enjoying the show as a whole. So, I just took that comment as a flippant remark aimed more at himself and not so much as a slam against her- meaning that he didn't have the guts to do it, maybe he wasn't even good at killing the enemy in a war or something.

could someone give some more info on kate's army dad? name(on name tag or name on desk) aren't jin and sun korean? her dad was in korea. coinsidence?
It is quite convenient that just a few episodes after they have Ana Lucia point out the US army knife that we see Kate's Dad in full military gear (she could have seen him at home), and then it turns out that he was in essence 'pretending' to be her father. And having her Dad in Korea does make it possible to connect Kate's military dad, with Sun's father and possibly the island.

What I want to know is why she always wanted to run away (see her last flashback last season), and why her childhood sweetie "knew why". I have a feeling that's connected to the OP's theory somehow.

Good point Peach. Food for thought.

I guess maybe I oversimplify things in this complicated lost world, but I saw it as Wayne is definitely a person of questionable morals. He has an affair with a married woman (Kate's mom) while her husband is off at war, conceives a child, breaks up a marriage, brutally beats his wife after the divorce, and looks at his daughter in a sexual way, even though he never touched her according to Kate. Since Kate is his daughter, it is realistic to believe she could have similar characteristics.

If I grew up thinking my crappy step dad beat my mom and she didn't stick up for herself, and later found out the man I hated is actually my father, I would be totally screwed up!

Good point Peach. Food for thought.

I guess maybe I oversimplify things in this complicated lost world, but I saw it as Wayne is definitely a person of questionable morals. He has an affair with a married woman (Kate's mom) while her husband is off at war, conceives a child, breaks up a marriage, brutally beats his wife after the divorce, and looks at his daughter in a sexual way, even though he never touched her according to Kate. Since Kate is his daughter, it is realistic to believe she could have similar characteristics.

If I grew up thinking my crappy step dad beat my mom and she didn't stick up for herself, and later found out the man I hated is actually my father, I would be totally screwed up!

This is a reasonable interpretation, but it still doesn't explain why her parents basically knew she was capable of these actions. Her military dad seems to care for her, yet he is also very serious when he says he knew she'd kill him. Most parents would defend their children actions and not be so willing to report them and send them to prison.

Also, I can't recall but do we know where Kate and her military dad are when she visits him. How much time has passed since she blew up the house? He seems to know everything that she's done. Has enough time passed for him to find everything out or does have some sort of inside connection that's kept him informed of what's happenned?

The marshal kept asking "Why now?" - That she had no history of violence. How would her "dad" know that she had murder in her heart? Was Wayne a killer? What about his father? Did they think she was a ticking time bomb waiting to go off?

Also, I can't recall but do we know where Kate and her military dad are when she visits him. How much time has passed since she blew up the house? He seems to know everything that she's done. Has enough time passed for him to find everything out or does have some sort of inside connection that's kept him informed of what's happenned?

Her military dad said that the Marshalls had already visited him, so I would guess they told him everything. Maybe the Mom called him as well.

Also, I can't recall but do we know where Kate and her military dad are when she visits him. How much time has passed since she blew up the house? He seems to know everything that she's done. Has enough time passed for him to find everything out or does have some sort of inside connection that's kept him informed of what's happenned?

Her military dad said that the Marshalls had already visited him, so I would guess they told him everything. Maybe the Mom called him as well.

There must be much more in Kate's past to make her own parents think of her as dangerous or a murderer.



Well, wasn't she talking about running away on that tape recorder when she was a child? Was Wayne a part of her life way back then as well? I mean...when exactly did her parents divorce and her mom go back to Wayne?

Well, wasn't she talking about running away on that tape recorder when she was a child? Was Wayne a part of her life way back then as well? I mean...when exactly did her parents divorce and her mom go back to Wayne?

I don't know. I think were digging to much. The marshall said in the car ride, "we are going to ride back for the arrangment. Are you confy?" Implying they have some significant travel to do to get back, but close enoough travel to be by car. He also then ask Kate "why now? "Nice cornfed farm girl, no history of violence, staight A's, no record, Why now?

How about because she just learned her whole life had been a lie, and her dad was the jerk that beat her mom? Kate said she killed Wayne because she hated that he was a part of her, and she would never have anything good in her. Can't we just take it at face value?

Wayne is her real dad and Kate was conceived while her dad was at war per the recruting office scene. He has been there since the beginning. The other thing I throw out there is Kate had to put this together on her own.

I want to say they split when she was 5, but I was fighting off sleep during this show. (Not because it was boring, I just usually go to bed early and was really tired.)

I felt really bad for Kate when Army dad said that he was going to have to tell the authorities she had been there. At least he gave her the hour. But still, that's the second parent she loved who betrayed her. Man, the parents in this show really suck don't they?

I want to say they split when she was 5, but I was fighting off sleep during this show. (Not because it was boring, I just usually go to bed early and was really tired.)

I felt really bad for Kate when Army dad said that he was going to have to tell the authorities she had been there. At least he gave her the hour. But still, that's the second parent she loved who betrayed her. Man, the parents in this show really suck don't they?

correct. Kate's army dad said he left when she was 5, wanted to take Kate with him, but how could he.

I don't think Army Dad was "slamming" Kate. I think that Army dad simply knew what had been happening in Kate's life with the abusive Wayne, and knew that Kate had a bad temper. Also, her father was an Army Ranger. I don't think he'd have any problem killing someone...that's different than having "murder in his heart". I think he knew that with her temper and the abuses that had been happening to her family, she had murder in her heart for this man. She wanted him dead, and the news that this monster was her biological father would push her over the edge.

I also think that she had probably fought back in the past against Wayne's abuse, and probably ran away on several occasions out of frustration. That would explain the previous "running away" comments.

As for Army Dad calling the authorities..I think he did it for 2 reasons: 1. I got the feeling he didn't want to call, but felt he had to morally. (another reason for Kate to feel terrible...the "Good, moral" man she knew as a father and thought she would be like turns out NOT to be her father. She's got the Abusive, drunk, immoral man's genes)..and 2., I'm pretty sure if it was found out he aided & abetted a fugitive, his military career would be over.

He did give her the 1 hour head start.
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