I was just rewatching the epi, and I noticed Sayid on the TV when Kate enters the Army recruiting office her dad works in. If you have Tivo, go frame by frame as you see the TV right after Kate enters the office and you'll see it. Plain as day, but very quick in real time.

Why was Sayid on TV? Did they give him props for what he did to help on the suicide bombing incident?

I was just rewatching the epi, and I noticed Sayid on the TV when Kate enters the Army recruiting office her dad works in. If you have Tivo, go frame by frame as you see the TV right after Kate enters the office and you'll see it. Plain as day, but very quick in real time.

Why was Sayid on TV? Did they give him props for what he did to help on the suicide bombing incident?

Hmmm...interesting. I'd love to see some screen caps of that!

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=829&pos=721

there is he is!

Great find dig! I missed that one. Will have to go back and watch it again.

It was hard to catch that one. Without Tivo you probably missed Sayid on the TV.

this is why this show is great!

Are we sure that's Sayid? It looks kind of like him, but it's kind of grainy. It could be anyone with dark hair and a beard. Sorry, just playing devil's advocate.

If that is him.. that's an amazing catch.. Wow.. I never even noticed a tv in that scene.. Am I even watching the show.. haha

It does look like him though. Very interesting

nice find...i read in a spoiler that he was in that scene...and i was looking for it and didn't still notice that.

I was just rewatching the epi, and I noticed Sayid on the TV when Kate enters the Army recruiting office her dad works in. If you have Tivo, go frame by frame as you see the TV right after Kate enters the office and you'll see it. Plain as day, but very quick in real time.

Why was Sayid on TV? Did they give him props for what he did to help on the suicide bombing incident?
I don't think Sayid was on TV about stopping the suicide bombing because he stopped the bombing and I believe the next day was the flight out of Australia,Kate was already in Australia

That is definitely Sayid. No doubt about it. Maybe they were showing him as a fugitive or something. Didn't he evade the US after he stopped the suicide attack?

Correct, Sayid foiled the terrorist plot just one day before boarding flight 815. Kate was in Australia for several months before she was caught too.

Maybe we will learn why Sayid was on TV in a future flashback. BTW, great catch I totally missed this while watching the episode.

Excellent catch! I was so focused on the three men in the background of the office trying to figure out who or why they were related that I missed the TV completely! this is why I love logging on The Fuselage after the show!

Amazing catch! I'll have to rewatch my tape. I don't get the timing, though. The marshall said he was chasing Kate for 3 years. Didn't it seem as if Kate visited her "father" shortly after the fire/ditching the marshall? I was assuming she was there AFTER the fire but BEFORE the incident with Tom and her mother in the hospital. No?

I don't know for sure but it looks like he is detained ? Maybe this is footage of him in the first Gulf war which he has stated he was in the Republican Guard? This may also help with the timeline. Kate said she was 24 in the coffee shop... does anybody remember how long she's been on the run?

Hmmm. If it was on TV, could have been historical footage rather than a current event. So it could have gone all the way back to the Gulf War.

I don't think Sayid was on TV about stopping the suicide bombing because he stopped the bombing and I believe the next day was the flight out of Australia,Kate was already in Australia

I am 100% positive it is Sayid. I do not have the ability to a screen cap, but there is a much better shot of him than the screen cap we have above. Can anyone help?

I rewatched the scene w/ Sayid on the TV in slow motion and it appears there is a soldier (U.S.?) walking w/ him like he is escorting Sayid . News footage of the Iraq war? But why is Sayid w/ US soldiers, wasn't he in the Republican Guard? The U.S. would be his enemy and he doesn't look angry or captured, he looks like he is just walking w/ them...interesting find

on a side note... the calender on the wall when Kate is in the bus station looks like it is showing this year ...September,October and November of 2005 based on how the days fall but its too blurry to cleary tell. The holiday's in red (labor day, columbus day,thanksgiving) fell like that this year and I think the last time halloween was on a monday would have been 1999, not sure. Wish there was a clear shot of that calender though. This would really mess up the time line

How about the black guy in the orange tee shirt at the very first seconds of that scene? Michael owns more than just an orange tee shirts and other back men wear orange tee shirts. Plus Michael has no business, we know of, in the midwest. So it is probably not him. Still, those producers will sneak little stuff in so....

Lets maintain that orange shirt watch. :biggrin:

Wasn't this a recruitment office? Could it just be a propaganda or training video being shown in the background. I think that based on how the CIA knew so much about Sayid, then he must have been a listed potential terrorist of person of concern. So maybe this is just a training video showing known terrorists or persons of concern.

I rewatched the scene w/ Sayid on the TV in slow motion and it appears there is a soldier (U.S.?) walking w/ him like he is escorting Sayid.
http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/whatkatedid/whatkatedid-promo02.jpg

To tell you the truth, I think it looks an awful lot like Desmond as well... being just a bit blurry and all.

http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/whatkatedid/whatkatedid-promo02.jpg

What is that from? That is not from what is shown on the TV. Sayid has no jacket on and you never see his legs on th TV in the recruiting office.

What is that from? That is not from what is shown on the TV. Sayid has no jacket on and you never see his legs on th TV in the recruiting office.

I think it is a promo pic from a future epi. I agree I also saw the soldier, but we need someone with a great screen cap to add it for credibility. Again, I am 100% certain it is Sayid. When you see it frame by frame, it leaves no room for discussion.

That's a promo picture for "What Kate Did".

How could the calendar in the bus station be this year? The marshall said he had been after Kate for three years. She ditched him and took the car, and that began her flight, right? So wouldn't she have had to be in the bus station in 2001? (And regarding her age, if she was 24 when she killed Wayne, then she was 27 at the time of the crash, in 2004.)

Ok, its definitely him. It is footage from the promo shot used above, but from a different, closer angle. I made a divx 5.X video for everyone showing this:

http://media.putfile.com/sayid

Also, here is a screencap from your's truly.

http://sier_element.home.comcast.net/SAYID.jpg

Case closed!

Also, I can hear the TV say "The desert reaches of Iraq to Kuwait" as he is on tv.

It makes sense that it would be Sayid, seeing as how we got to see Hugo on the TV in Asia during season one.
I'm glad to see this, since I have been really curious about what happened to Sayid after he left the Republican Guard. I mean, that's a big change from working from Saddam to helping the CIA catch terrorists. Alot must have happened in between, besides his search for the chick. Maybe this is a hint that we will soon find out more...

Phew, and also, here is a .WAV file (audio) of Kate walking in. You can hear the TV on the background talking about whatever Sayid is involved with:

http://media.putfile.com/kate3248

Also, I can hear the TV say "The desert reaches of Iraq to Kuwait" as he is on tv.

thanks for the assist and great caps Sier!

How could the calendar in the bus station be this year? The marshall said he had been after Kate for three years. She ditched him and took the car, and that began her flight, right? So wouldn't she have had to be in the bus station in 2001? (And regarding her age, if she was 24 when she killed Wayne, then she was 27 at the time of the crash, in 2004.)
I don't know Margalit..I doesn't make sense I know but I looked at in slow mo and compared how the days fell w/ the years. It really looks like sept, oct and nov on the calender w/ Halloween falling on a monday. That was this year & I looked it up..the last time halloween was on a monday was 1994! It is hard to see, blurry and there is post- it notes covering the year #'s on the calender. Can anyone get a cap of this? It w/ probably be blurry though. It doesn't add up.

I think it is a promo pic from a future epi. I agree I also saw the soldier, but we need someone with a great screen cap to add it for credibility. Again, I am 100% certain it is Sayid. When you see it frame by frame, it leaves no room for discussion.
Thank you diggity..and I agree 100% it is Sayid, no doubt about it.

Since it was a recruitment office I think it was a recruiment/ propoganda tape of the US military. Sayid was probably taken into US custody as a war criminal after the first US-Iraqui war, and spent some time in a military prision in the years of his life between the Republican Guard and the time spent in Australia before the flight. My theory anyway.

If the word "Kuwait" is heard in the video, that adds credence to the idea that it is old, and perhaps part of a promo film. Sayid wouldn't have been a "war criminal," just a dime-a-dozen captured soldier. Remember, during the Gulf War, Bush version 1.0 stayed OUT of Iraq. (And I could comment on that, but I won't.)

Actually, Sayid's military career either shows some continuity problems (the likely explanation) or is a bit complicated. He committed treason and left Iraq "seven years ago" (e.g., 1997), was in the RG "five years" and "fought in the Gulf War" (1990-91). That doesn't add up unless Sayid entered the service as an ordinary soldier during the war, then was promoted into the RG a couple of years later, after the war.

http://lost-media.com/modules/coppermine/albums/ep-promos/sea2/whatkatedid/whatkatedid-promo02.jpg

OK, That is definitly Sayid. Thanks for the clear picture.

Wow. Are those HD caps? Because my copy doesn't show half as much of the television over Austen's shoulder. There's just this smidgen of the TV. No wonder I was having trouble believing it was Sayid. I didn't have as much info.

Kinda annoys me, though. I know I'm not getting as good a picture. But missing actual info? Who wants to chip in to get me HD?

We watched our first lost episode in HD last night and I caught Sayid on tv right away. My husband missed it tho. The whole time I was wondering, 'is there this much detail on the regular broadcast?' That HD stuff is amazing!!!! There were some shots (like on the beach) that it almost felt like you were right there.

It's funny - I knew Sayid would be in this episode somewhere, because it had been spoiled by the ABC Medianet photos. But after it was over, I asked my husband if it had happened, because I certainly never saw any soldiers walking by outside (the screen cap did not show the TV around the shot.) Interesting that ABC would want to call attention to the fact, just to make sure no one would miss it. It's sure to become important later!

Heard that Sayid was in a recruiting video in the background when Kate went to visit her other father.

Can anyone else back this up? Won't be home to my tivo for a little while, so thought I would reach out for some help on this...

Yup,

There's a screen cap in this thread.

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=28276

"Join the Army and kill this man!"

What in the world is Sayid doing on TV??

That could be the scene from when Sayid helped the CIA or FBI find that terrorist. It ended up in a hangar with army guys didn't it? i don't quite remember the deal then...maybe the timing is wrong too but the Army Recruitment video idea seems really far off to me...I think it was just the news.

What do y'all think?

I think it was a video, not a TV broadcast.

I think Sayid was being captured by whatever battalion the shop was recruiting for, and that was just their video of things they do in wars.

wow cool!! i would've NEVER noticed that!!

great catch, but WTF??

It was probably a compilation vidio of what potential recruits can accept...that clip was taped when Sayid was in US custody after the war i guess.

That's funny. Just watched the episode again and saw him. And here we already have a thread about it. Nice.
I think it's a maybe breaking news about an Iraqi guy who has just been arrested or rather a video of the heroic troops. It's just a nice add to the consistency of the time flow. Now somebody could look up when Sayid was arrested (if there's existence about that, anyway) and see when Kate's incident took place...

What I want to see is sometime in the future some proof that these "coincidences" are happening in the Lost world to the characters, not just Easter eggs for us. It's fun to spot Hurley on a Korean t.v. and Sawyer behind Boone at a jailhouse, but are these things happening to the characters like if Kate had just taken a quick look at the t.v. would she have maybe done a double take when seeing Sayid on the plane. Or would Jin recognize Hurley if he had taken a moment from beating the guy on the floor to look up and watch t.v. None of them have been face to face with each other pre-boarding, but they have all been very close. I'd like to see them start to figure this out.

Actually, Sayid's military career either shows some continuity problems (the likely explanation) or is a bit complicated. He committed treason and left Iraq "seven years ago" (e.g., 1997), was in the RG "five years" and "fought in the Gulf War" (1990-91). That doesn't add up unless Sayid entered the service as an ordinary soldier during the war, then was promoted into the RG a couple of years later, after the war.

Yeah I noticed that too. That's a definite inconsistency in the timeline, although you have postulated the most likely scenario.

It's definitely Sayid, but I'm baffled as to why he is on a video in a recruiting office. They'll have to explain that later. It's obviously not for foiling the terrorist plot in Sydney.

It's definitely Sayid, but I'm baffled as to why he is on a video in a recruiting office. They'll have to explain that later. It's obviously not for foiling the terrorist plot in Sydney.


This is similar to Hurley on the tv in Korea... Why would a lottery winner from the U.S. be on the Korean news?

It's an Army recruitment office. There's a kid in there when Kate walks in watching what could be...an Army Recruitment video.

Or maybe it was like 4 in the afternoon and the kid was watching "Uncle Sayid's Wacky Cartoon Hour" It was only on for one season but it stayed in reruns for a couple of years.So now we just have to figure out if he is watching an original episode or one of the reruns and we can deduce the timeline finally.

Just watched the episode again. Sayid was on the TV. Cool.

This is similar to Hurley on the tv in Korea... Why would a lottery winner from the U.S. be on the Korean news? I've seen big lottery winners from other countries on TV before, I don't think it would be at all unusual for him to be on TV all over the world, news programmes love 'filler' like Hurley's story.

Yeah I noticed that too. That's a definite inconsistency in the timeline, although you have postulated the most likely scenario.

It's definitely Sayid, but I'm baffled as to why he is on a video in a recruiting office. They'll have to explain that later. It's obviously not for foiling the terrorist plot in Sydney.


While we're on the subject of Sayid's resume, I'd like to bring up something else that puzzles me. Exactly how long was he in the "interrogation" field? (Versus his other "communications" experience with radios and stuff, which is also from his military career, per his explanation to Hurley.)

On the day that Nadia was brought in, Omar is seen praising Sayid for how well he handled the interrogation of a prisoner that (Sayid? somebody else?) had brought in, and offering Sayid a promotion, which Sayid eagerly accepts. A month later, Sayid commits treason, frees Nadia and murders Omar.

So did Sayid do "interrogation" for only a month? His guilt baggage seems pretty heavy in that case.

Or did he do grunt-level "softening up" on the prisoners, who were then handed over to knowledgeable and psychologically skilled interrogators for the actual questioning (that's how OUR torturers divide their job duties, apparently)? Was Sayid promoted to the more sophisticated level of the interrogation process in that scene we saw? That doesn't seem likely, being that he was (apparently) a college graduate and smart and techy and all that--too much of a waste of his skills. But maybe one has to start at the bottom, so to speak.

Anyway, I'm not quite sure what the career path was for Iraqi Ba'athist torturers.

I wouldn't overanalyze the TV appearance (that I can't even see on my tape!!!). I think it's just random prisoner-in-custody footage from the Gulf War, and doesn't tell us much more than that.

What I want to see is sometime in the future some proof that these "coincidences" are happening in the Lost world to the characters, not just Easter eggs for us. It's fun to spot Hurley on a Korean t.v. and Sawyer behind Boone at a jailhouse, but are these things happening to the characters like if Kate had just taken a quick look at the t.v. would she have maybe done a double take when seeing Sayid on the plane. Or would Jin recognize Hurley if he had taken a moment from beating the guy on the floor to look up and watch t.v. None of them have been face to face with each other pre-boarding, but they have all been very close. I'd like to see them start to figure this out.

I agree 100% roy! They have consistently gone out of their way to show past connections of the passengers before they boarded filght 815, and I don't think they are just Easter Eggs either. There are too many of them and they must point to something important in the plot.

While we're on the subject of Sayid's resume, I'd like to bring up something else that puzzles me. Exactly how long was he in the "interrogation" field? (Versus his other "communications" experience with radios and stuff, which is also from his military career, per his explanation to Hurley.)

On the day that Nadia was brought in, Omar is seen praising Sayid for how well he handled the interrogation of a prisoner that (Sayid? somebody else?) had brought in, and offering Sayid a promotion, which Sayid eagerly accepts. A month later, Sayid commits treason, frees Nadia and murders Omar.

So did Sayid do "interrogation" for only a month? His guilt baggage seems pretty heavy in that case.

Or did he do grunt-level "softening up" on the prisoners, who were then handed over to knowledgeable and psychologically skilled interrogators for the actual questioning (that's how OUR torturers divide their job duties, apparently)? Was Sayid promoted to the more sophisticated level of the interrogation process in that scene we saw? That doesn't seem likely, being that he was (apparently) a college graduate and smart and techy and all that--too much of a waste of his skills. But maybe one has to start at the bottom, so to speak.

Anyway, I'm not quite sure what the career path was for Iraqi Ba'athist torturers.

I wouldn't overanalyze the TV appearance (that I can't even see on my tape!!!). I think it's just random prisoner-in-custody footage from the Gulf War, and doesn't tell us much more than that.

The way I remember it, Sayid's superior was praising him for his handling of the prisioner and offered the promotion just as Nadia was being led in, so the promotion was not yet in effect when he questioned Nadia, and I doubt that they would follow through with a promotion for someone who allowed a prisioner to escape.

Why would he be offered a promotion and not actually get it for a month?

Why would he be offered a promotion and not actually get it for a month?

Doesn't it often take some time for paperwork to get approved so that a person can get a military promotion? (At least in the US.)

Anyone else notice this? When kate enters that army store to see her father, in the backround the TV is playing a clip with a person that looks a lot like Sayid. Sorry if this is old news.

~Tango

Yup, it's been in a few threads here. I missed it though, I admire anyone who spotted it!

Man, this thread would have been 3 pages shorter if only people without HD would remember that fact. You are only seeing 3/4ths of the show if you are watching on regular TV.

Man, this thread would have been 3 pages shorter if only people without HD would remember that fact. You are only seeing 3/4ths of the show if you are watching on regular TV.

Tell you what. Buy me an HD TV and I'll not complain anymore. :rolleyes:

Not everyone in America has HD or can afford HD. Sorry if that offends you.

Hey y'all! This is my first post, so be gentle...This is a cool site. I'm Kath--how ya doin'?

Well, I think It was just a "coincidence"...heh. There's a lot of 'em on this show--like when...was it, Hurley, (can't remember, who it was, but I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong) was in the Police Station in Australia, and they brought Sawyer in...

So, it could have been just a "news story" on in the background, and they just happened to show Sayid in the frame of the news footage...he was in the Iraqui Guard, right? So, he was in the frame of a "news thing". just my dos centavos. I love when they throw tie-ins into this show! But, I will say this--I thought it was Sayid, too--and some dude the next day seemed to think it was SAWYER...but I gently told him he needed to get his eyes examined pronto and to pay attention. heh.

PEACE--Kath

Think there's any chance that Sayid was actually already working with the americans, and that this is just a propoganda film instead? He might have already been in the US and they just asked him to be filmed as a "POW" for the video or something...

must suck for sayid, being detained like everywhere he goes.

It´s totally Sayid!!! What the hell does that mean??!!!!!!!!! I´m shocked, i must say...


the latin lostie...

What I want to see is sometime in the future some proof that these "coincidences" are happening in the Lost world to the characters, not just Easter eggs for us. It's fun to spot Hurley on a Korean t.v. and Sawyer behind Boone at a jailhouse, but are these things happening to the characters like if Kate had just taken a quick look at the t.v. would she have maybe done a double take when seeing Sayid on the plane. Or would Jin recognize Hurley if he had taken a moment from beating the guy on the floor to look up and watch t.v. None of them have been face to face with each other pre-boarding, but they have all been very close. I'd like to see them start to figure this out.

Me too!! They're tyin' everyone in...their paths are all starting to cross. And thank you, roy815, it was BOONE in the jailhouse!! I couldn't remember if it was him or Hurley!!

PEACE--Kath

Behind the flag to the right of the tv there was a sign, and forgive me I have already deleted from my TiVo so I can't remember the exact wording but it was something like "Building your Future". Obviously recruiting slogan, but also took it as Kate and Sayid are together in the future.