What are they digging and working for? Or could it just be a way to keep the prisoners occupied and give them a sense of purpose?

I think they are building houses.

It's part of the reconditioning, that's for certain. Because there's no way that the Others wanted Kate and Sawyer for slave labor. If so, why not get all the Losties. Also, episode one, Kate and Jack have needle marks, but Sawyer didn't. What's up with that?

they want them to be labored so that they go through hard work together. this will eventually make them follow and become part of the others

Also, episode one, Kate and Jack have needle marks, but Sawyer didn't. What's up with that?
In the promo pix for "Tale," we see that there IS a bandage on James' arm. They just didn't get that in there in the final edit of the eppy, that's all.

Yeah, it's conditioning.

A question: why does Juliet seem to show up EVERYWHERE? In the Hydra, in James' escape path last week, at the rock quarry--I mean, everywhere?

The Others seem to be taking some perverse interest in Sawyer's and Kate's relationship. Who knew creepy Ben had some Yenta in him? I suspect that the work detail was part of an experiment - they wanted to see how Sawyer and Kate would react towards one another in an atmosphere of duress. Why? Beats the heck out of me. But that's my current theory.

Who were the other people working? Others or prisoners? I didn't recognize any of them.

Seems to be just another one of the Others "meaningless task" experiments. They were breaking up the rocks...and transporting them...what...20 yards away? For what?

Looks like they are doing some classic "prisoner" type conditioning....with Jack trapped in solitary confinement.

If the Others are "the good guys"...I hate to see what the "bad guys" do to them.

The Others seem to be taking some perverse interest in Sawyer's and Kate's relationship. Who knew creepy Ben had some Yenta in him? I suspect that the work detail was part of an experiment - they wanted to see how Sawyer and Kate would react towards one another in an atmosphere of duress. Why? Beats the heck out of me. But that's my current theory.lol on your Yenta comment - is his new nickname 'Benta'? :biggrin: The idea of them wanting to observe the two under duress sounds good, for now anyway.

Looks like they are doing some classic "prisoner" type conditioning....with Jack trapped in solitary confinement.
If the Others are "the good guys"...I hate to see what the "bad guys" do to them. No kidding. Prisoner conditioning to do what though - just wear them down?

I have said the same thing about Juliet....seems to be everywhere.
Did anyone notice the blueprints on the table at the site?

Maybe they're building a church. :biggrin:

I'm thinking that the heavy labour is just a perfect way to 'physically break them down' before they go after them mentally. An interrogation technique?

Since learning that Ben is apparently plugged in pretty well, the paranoid part of me can't help wondering if he somehow observed the "I Never" exchange between Sawyer and Kate. They both admitted to killing someone. Maybe the cages are Other prison, and the chain gang is to further the feeling of being imprisoned. It may be a stretch, but it feels good. :lol:

Since learning that Ben is apparently plugged in pretty well, the paranoid part of me can't help wondering if he somehow observed the "I Never" exchange between Sawyer and Kate. They both admitted to killing someone. Maybe the cages are Other prison, and the chain gang is to further the feeling of being imprisoned. It may be a stretch, but it feels good. :lol:

It is interesting that Sawyer and Kate are locked in cages as if in jail while Jack is not. They've committed murder, Jack has not. They're getting fish biscuits and breaking up rocks, while Jack is being brought cooked food. They're "shocked" into behaving as asked, Jack is be reasoned with calmly. Jack is redeemable, Sawyer and Kate are not?

It is interesting that Sawyer and Kate are locked in cages as if in jail while Jack is not. They've committed murder, Jack has not. They're getting fish biscuits and breaking up rocks, while Jack is being brought cooked food. They're "shocked" into behaving as asked, Jack is be reasoned with calmly. Jack is redeemable, Sawyer and Kate are not?


It's hard to say because we don't know what the Others' motivation is. It may be that this is to help Kate and Sawyer feel that they have paid their debt. :shrug:

The Others seem to be taking some perverse interest in Sawyer's and Kate's relationship. Who knew creepy Ben had some Yenta in him? I suspect that the work detail was part of an experiment - they wanted to see how Sawyer and Kate would react towards one another in an atmosphere of duress. Why? Beats the heck out of me. But that's my current theory.

they seem to know everything so they probably see Jack has feelings for Kate, so by getting her and Sawyer together, it will lessen his feelings for Kate which will make it easier for them to manipulate him.

I had to check to be sure the gang boss was actually Pickett or a lookalike. He comes off very different than he did in season 2; his beard is now a goatee and he's got a harder edge to his voice. Dan Pickett I guess is his name.

I'm thinking that the heavy labour is just a perfect way to 'physically break them down' before they go after them mentally. An interrogation technique? Interesting 4th - "break them down" by "chipping away" at their psyche... Leave no stone unturned... Hammer them down to submission... Sounds right. Shall I go on with the metaphors? ;)

Since learning that Ben is apparently plugged in pretty well, the paranoid part of me can't help wondering if he somehow observed the "I Never" exchange between Sawyer and Kate. They both admitted to killing someone. Maybe the cages are Other prison, and the chain gang is to further the feeling of being imprisoned. It may be a stretch, but it feels good. :lol: Hey, as long as it feels good shootfire! :biggrin: But that really makes sense, having the Others feel the need to correct/punish Kate and Sawyer for their acts. That goes right along with their haughtiness, arrogance, self-righteousness.....
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I had to check to be sure the gang boss was actually Pickett or a lookalike. He comes off very different than he did in season 2; his beard is now a goatee and he's got a harder edge to his voice. Dan Pickett I guess is his name. He reminded me of Francis in "Stripes" when he was threatening Sawyer and Kate about the taser - "Ya touch my stuff, I'll kill ya... Ya move my stuff, I'll kill ya.....Ya even look at my stuff, I'll kill ya" Lighten up, Pickett...:rolleyes:

Interesting 4th - "break them down" by "chipping away" at their psyche... Leave no stone unturned... Hammer them down to submission... Sounds right. Shall I go on with the metaphors? ;)

Hey, as long as it feels good shootfire! :biggrin: But that really makes sense, having the Others feel the need to correct/punish Kate and Sawyer for their acts. That goes right along with their haughtiness, arrogance, self-righteousness.....

:teehee: I'm feeling much better about it since I've seen the screencaps from Ben's security room, and the comparison of one of the screens to the place where Shannon saw
Wet Walt. It seems there really may be cameras and mics all over the island.

:teehee: I'm feeling much better about it since I've seen the screencaps from Ben's security room, and the comparison of one of the screens to the place where Shannon saw
Wet Walt. It seems there really may be cameras and mics all over the island. Yeah, Big Brother Ben has them everywhere it seems. I mistakenly thought they were only at indoor locations (why didn't they know about the boat?) but was wrong. Glad you feel better shoot!:laughing: I do think you're onto something with the chain gang being a prison motif for their murders...

I think they are trying to build something. There were lots of "others" working on the road or runway. They were also compacting the dirt. Why would they have a forman hut out there, and it looked like they had plans the way they were working at the table.

It is interesting that Sawyer and Kate are locked in cages as if in jail while Jack is not. They've committed murder, Jack has not. They're getting fish biscuits and breaking up rocks, while Jack is being brought cooked food. They're "shocked" into behaving as asked, Jack is be reasoned with calmly. Jack is redeemable, Sawyer and Kate are not?


I think that the reason that they are catering to Jack is because he is a medical doctor / surgeon and are hoping to "sway" him into joining their ranks. Kate and Sawyer really have nothing they need, so they get the fishbiscits. Jack could be used for much more things.......;)

In reference to the chain gang.

As implied before here, it looks like regular duty for some others. Kate and SAwyer are the only prisoners, imho. When Sawyer attempted to take control of the situation, the workers didnt try to escape/run away. They gathered around instead.

What they're doing there.

I dont have a clue.

Conditioning training.

Sure looks like some kind of "break you down" military boot camp treatment is being used. But not as much with Jack. Looks like he's going to have to perform a miracle for the others, and I aint talking about stitching Colleen back up either. (

Namaste, Eric.

(By the way, it was great to see the final out of the Red Sox Miracle Series. ;) )

They were building something, though. I think it looked like a runway or a road. They were smoothing out what looked like concrete.

It is interesting that Sawyer and Kate are locked in cages as if in jail while Jack is not. They've committed murder, Jack has not. They're getting fish biscuits and breaking up rocks, while Jack is being brought cooked food. They're "shocked" into behaving as asked, Jack is be reasoned with calmly. Jack is redeemable, Sawyer and Kate are not?
That's interesting, I didn't think about it that way. Also makes me think...maybe Sawyer and Kate deserve what is happening to them? After all, if the group got rescued, both of them would likely end up confined again, in a place not so different from where they are now. Which doesn't excuse the Others taking justice into their own hands. But as I watch the show, I'm thinking "Go Sawyer! Go Kate!" -- yet they've both murdered innocent people, and Sawyer has ruined many lives in addition for greed's sake. Maybe it should be "Go Pickett! Give him another one!"

This is why I'm addicted to this website.

It's hard to say because we don't know what the Others' motivation is. It may be that this is to help Kate and Sawyer feel that they have paid their debt. :shrug:

If the Others are rounding up people who have committed murder, then they should have asked Eko and Jin to come along too. I think they are just trying experiments on them to see how they behave towards each other. Both Kate and Sawyer came to the island believing they care for no one but themselves and have gotten away from caring for other people yet here they are - worrying and caring about each other. Jack seemed to care too much - it is what drives him. By not having someone to care for anyone, he is outside his element. A different sort of torture.

i think benry likes the little soap opera that is kate and sawyer...that why jack was takin out of the triangle.

It looked to me like they were building something. Juliet and Pickett? where at a table with what looked like plans or blueprints. We don't know what the big picture behind the Others and Dharma is so I have no clue what they have in store for Kate and Sawyer and Jack so maybe they are just using them for labor in the meantime.

Juliett obviously had a jump on Sawyers escape becuase there are camera's observing him in the cage. It wouldn't be hard at all to see what direction he went and go out to follow.

The entire work situation is an experiment. They are using negative reconditioing to enforce set of rules. Notice the only one they ever shock is Sawyer. Maybe they are looking to cause Sawyer pain to see what reaction it provokes out of Kate. Or maybe they are trying to forge a strong bond between them, and then are going to throw it Jack's face, or reintroduce Jack just in time to cause probs between the three of them?

I think the 'chain gang' is just busywork. I'm surprised however that Sawyer and Kate did not suffer sunstroke. Working in the hot sun without a hat would kill a person not conditioned to it.

My theory is whatever they injected the three with at the end of season 2 takes a while to 'germinate' so they are making them work to make sure its thoroughly integrated into their systems.

F

When I heard him say "chain gang" I instantly thought of the song "Back on the Chain Gang" by The Pretenders. Slightly ironic.

I dont think it is meaningless work. There are the aforementioned blueprints on the table, in another scene there is survey equipment being used by one of the workers, and as stated before, the other workers appear to be there on free will. I think some actually join in the fight against sawyer, considering there were 4-5 people around him with only 2-3 people standing at the tent.

I think that the reason that they are catering to Jack is because he is a medical doctor / surgeon and are hoping to "sway" him into joining their ranks. Kate and Sawyer really have nothing they need, so they get the fishbiscits. Jack could be used for much more things.......;)


Well, Kate and Sawyer have *something* they need or they wouldn't have asked for
them by name. It's looking like they want Kate to have Sawyer's baby from my point
of view. I don't know what they want with Jack. It could just be his medical training,
but it seems they all have plenty of that already.

This is part of the 'unpleasant 2 weeks' Kate is supposed to have. She's the key to Sawyer. Sawyer isn't going to capitulate based on physical discomfort, we've already seen that. The only thing that will get to him is seeing Kate suffer. Then she questioned him afterwards so Benry could find out more info.
By the way - she 'tastes' like strawberries tells me she at that breakfast after all... I think Kate is being a very bad girl...

Oldwiz

It looked to me like they were building something. Juliet and Pickett? where at a table with what looked like plans or blueprints. We don't know what the big picture behind the Others and Dharma is so I have no clue what they have in store for Kate and Sawyer and Jack so maybe they are just using them for labor in the meantime. What is it they could be building, then? More homes? It just seemed like senseless redundant work, moving rocks here and there.

The entire work situation is an experiment. They are using negative reconditioing to enforce set of rules. Notice the only one they ever shock is Sawyer. Maybe they are looking to cause Sawyer pain to see what reaction it provokes out of Kate. Or maybe they are trying to forge a strong bond between them, and then are going to throw it Jack's face, or reintroduce Jack just in time to cause probs between the three of them? My take on that is the only one they shock is Sawyer to keep Kate in line. It's starting to remind me of the Milgram Experiment - shocking people for getting incorrect answers, testing compliance and obedience. Different concept I know, and Sawyer's shocks seem real whereas the experiment's weren't.

It's hard to say because we don't know what the Others' motivation is. It may be that this is to help Kate and Sawyer feel that they have paid their debt. :shrug:
Maybe...pay their debt and they will ultimately be more able to encompass what the "others are doing"...believe me I don't know at present...suffice to say
Sawyer and Kate are being treated as criminals and lets face it both have a feeling that they are unworthy

In reference to the chain gang.

As implied before here, it looks like regular duty for some others. Kate and SAwyer are the only prisoners, imho. When Sawyer attempted to take control of the situation, the workers didnt try to escape/run away. They gathered around instead.

Conditioning training.



Totally think its conditioning but have the "others" underestimated Kate and Sawyer?

They were building something, though. I think it looked like a runway or a road. They were smoothing out what looked like concrete.

Maybe their is some basis for the chain gang scenario....why not have them working on something useful

My take on that is the only one they shock is Sawyer to keep Kate in line. It's starting to remind me of the Milgram Experiment - shocking people for getting incorrect answers, testing compliance and obedience. Different concept I know, and Sawyer's shocks seem real whereas the experiment's weren't.

Milgrams exeriment, very possible.... but there is more to it than this....way deeper

i dont think they will get them doing anything important if the work is ligit maybe they are just making room for a building by splitting rocks etc.

i could of course juset be a way to try and control them and get them to show respect

Sure looks like some kind of "break you down" military boot camp treatment is being used. But not as much with Jack. Looks like he's going to have to perform a miracle for the others, and I aint talking about stitching Colleen back up either.
(By the way, it was great to see the final out of the Red Sox Miracle Series. ;) ) Eric, I'm intrigued about this miracle you refer too, and I don't think it has anyting to do with the Red Sox...;) Funny that this episode it looks like Jack is preferred. Last episode I saw Kate as getting preferential treatment.

IMy theory is whatever they injected the three with at the end of season 2 takes a while to 'germinate' so they are making them work to make sure its thoroughly integrated into their systems.

F Interesting theory Fuyoko


Milgrams exeriment, very possible.... but there is more to it than this....way deeper Oh absolutely- just like most of us could rattle off 20 books and movies that have concepts or themes similar to Lost. It just brought back memories seeing the film in Psyc 101 - the shocks, compliance, unquestioning allegiance to authority..

i could of course juset be a way to try and control them and get them to show respect Like boot camp then...

I agree with eulim1ted, you don't use blueprints and survey equipment for "busy work". Granted, they had SK doing what seemed to be mundaine tasks, but they could be on the bottom of the "totem pole". My first impression (and I'm a surveyor) was that they were building a road - which may make the hidden van from last week not seem like a production goof. The area was too large for homes. You wouldn't flatten out and compact the area that would be the yard. The runway theory is interesting, too. :undecide:

At first I thought it was an archaelogical dig (DocArtz over at the Tailsection thought it was, too) but after listening to the various experts we have on the board I'm now convinced it was a construction site.
Just before Sawyer began his 'test' fight, I counted 5 young-ish males near him all carrying various implements like rakes, shovels, etc. During, and after the fight I counted an additional 9 non-combatants, plus there were a few way off in the background that I couldn't get an accurate count on, perhaps 3 to 5. None of these were armed.
That doesn't count Juliet, Pickett, and the 2 'guards' that were armed with 'Sawyer prods' - BTW those zappers were not Tazers, they were cattle prods for humans.
None of the 14+ workers got involved, or even seemed interested in the fight - they just watched.
My interpretation of this is that it was a bonafide work-site and only Kate and Sawyer were 'forced labor' and I think that had they done what they were told, they would have been treated more humanely, i.e. Juliet tossing the water to Sawyer. In other words, it was a test to see if they would 'fit in'.

Oldwiz

Before we assume Kate and “James” are the only forced labor and the rest are voluntary let’s consider that: (1) The girl whose dress Kate has was afraid to be seen talking with Kate. (2) The teen/20’s something male, whose cage Kate now occupies, had the means to escape but did not attempt to do so until after the presence of Sawyer indicated there was a group to flee to. (3) A limited number of the workers had weapons and/or participated in subduing Sawyer. The bulk of them just stood around and watched the event as a break in the routine. (4) The workers did not appear to be fraternizing with the armed supervisors (guards) or even with each other, which strikes me as odd. Looking at the above: I think it is possible that construction work, for the Others, is either a punishment or the Others in the work party are unwilling workers who have had the will to escape beaten out of them. I believe the Other’s society has its share of dissidents or unwilling members.

However I also do agree that the "chain Gang" is a part of the attempt to break Kate & Sawyer to the harness of the Other’s will or Indoctrination if you prefer that term. Interesting to me is that Kate was given a time span for the unpleasantness – next couple of weeks.

What are they digging and working for? Or could it just be a way to keep the prisoners occupied and give them a sense of purpose?

When Sawyer and Kate were taken to where they were going to work and you saw other people working in the background. On the ground there were strings tied off in a grid. Now, I have previously worked in the construction field on roads and truck wells. We used to set up the same grids when we needed to make sure a surface was level in preperation to pour concrete.

My best guess is they are building a road. This makes sense because it would be easier to get around rather than running through the jungle. And I bet there will be some cars or trucks in later episodes (this I could be completely wrong about though)

My next guess would be preperation to pour a foundation.

Fogey:

I looked at those people in the background and there was some interaction but most were just busy. One guy was up at the tent talking with Juliet. I also assumed that if they were also forced labor, they would have been yelled at to get back to work, rather than just standing around watching the fight. Alex is a wild-card, she's part of the group but doesn't play by the rules all the time.
Also, I don't think any dialogue was expected from the red-shirts....

Oldwiz

Fogey:

I looked at those people in the background and there was some interaction but most were just busy. One guy was up at the tent talking with Juliet. I also assumed that if they were also forced labor, they would have been yelled at to get back to work, rather than just standing around watching the fight. Alex is a wild-card, she's part of the group but doesn't play by the rules all the time.
Also, I don't think any dialogue was expected from the red-shirts....

OldwizLOL ok that sounds reasonable. But back peddling with tongue in cheek - since the supervisors were busy with the fight, they may not have taken time out to yell at the uninvolved. The way they were working just sort of reminded me of seeing people who are marking time while sentenced to public service rather than people who are working towards a goal they desire.

I suspect my view of scenes involving the Others is biased. I see them as a probable cult where the group (with possible individual exceptions) is filled with people whose claim to be “good people” is warped by their groups inappropriate definition of good. I expect to see evidence of a society in decline and a cult like leadership so I do see that, whether it is really there or not.

In reference to the chain gang.

As implied before here, it looks like regular duty for some others. Kate and SAwyer are the only prisoners, imho. When Sawyer attempted to take control of the situation, the workers didnt try to escape/run away. They gathered around instead.

What they're doing there.

I dont have a clue.

Conditioning training.

Sure looks like some kind of "break you down" military boot camp treatment is being used. But not as much with Jack. Looks like he's going to have to perform a miracle for the others, and I aint talking about stitching Colleen back up either. (

Namaste, Eric.

(By the way, it was great to see the final out of the Red Sox Miracle Series. ;) )

I think they are also trying to move Sawyer and Kate closer together. People who share a tramatic experience often feel very close to the people they share it with. That might explain why no one else is in the cages and why Jack is seperate from them. (It also helps explain Sayid and Shannon but that is another thread. ;) )

Did anyone check to see if some of the other workers where the kidnapped adults from the tail section? That could be where the Others got the other labourers and why they didn't run during the fight. They have been broken already.

I'm not sure I'd agree that they're building a road or whatever...
The others took those three for a reason - they were chosen over all of the other survivors, and I highly doubt it was just for slave labour. I think it's more likely that the chain gang thing is just an effort to break Kate and Sawyer's will. The others know a lot about each of the survivors, as we've seen, so they obviously know that Kate and Sawyer are ex-cons, impulsive, anti-authourity. Jack on the other hand is a doctor - more prone to logic and reason. I think this is why they've taken to different tactics to gain the support or cooperation ( willing or not ) of these three. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the rest of the 'chain gain' were all just play acting. I wouldn't even be surprised if Alex were just playing a role in this little scenario ...
Ben is a very smart and manipulative man, as we've seen, and I think everything that's happening is staged for the losties benefit...
....but then again, I'm often wrong...

I don't think that, that is the unpleasant stuff Ben, was talking about to Kate. I think the Others have something else in store for Kate, Jack, and Sawyer.
As to what they were digging? I have no idea, I don't know about houses... Because if they were going to build houses you think they would at least take 5 (it takes a lot of work to build a house) more of the losties.

I think that the reason that they are catering to Jack is because he is a medical doctor / surgeon and are hoping to "sway" him into joining their ranks. Kate and Sawyer really have nothing they need, so they get the fishbiscits. Jack could be used for much more things.......;)
If they have nothing they need, then why request them on the list for Michael to bring???

Also, is it just me or did anyone else think that, when Juliet had a gun to Kate's head, that Kate didn't look all that frightened? As if she knew that that was going to happen or that she knew what Juliet was planning? Is this part of what Kate may've been told about her ' 2 weeks of Hell'?? She knows that the Others are going to be doing something to Sawyer and she is helpless to stop it??

Interesting thread. I don't believe anything is being built at the work site. To me (and others preceding), the work is the equivalent of early training in Zen Buddhism. The result is unimportant; what matters is the "doing." A classic example of such training, in fact, is moving a pile of rocks JUST to move a pile of rocks.

Interesting thread. I don't believe anything is being built at the work site. To me (and others preceding), the work is the equivalent of early training in Zen Buddhism. The result is unimportant; what matters is the "doing." A classic example of such training, in fact, is moving a pile of rocks JUST to move a pile of rocks.

I agree. They're moving rocks to move rocks, although I think the the Others want them to learn something from the experience.

That or they're building a Starbucks...an island that size without a Starbucks is unthinkable :eek:

I believe they are building a railroad for a train. I also believe the noise that sounds like a Tripod from War of The Worlds,killed the pilot,and knocks down trees is a device similiar to the AT AT Walker and AT ST Walkers in Star Wars Trilogy used to pave the way for train tracks.

The train will transport cargo and supplies to various facilities on the island using Magnetic Power Or Electrical. That way there will be no more food drops on parachutes that can lay out in the sun,be eaten by boars or stolen by Survivors of the plane crash.

Another observation about that scene: what's the fire for? Middle of the day, tropical island, let's start a fire? I saw nothing ON or near the fire (smelting equipment, perhaps) that would indicate its necessity. It seems extraneous, yet we know this show too well for that.

A question: why does Juliet seem to show up EVERYWHERE? In the Hydra, in James' escape path last week, at the rock quarry--I mean, everywhere?

Juliet was probably assigned to be the primary liasion between Jack and The Others - - both because she's physically similar to Sarah, and because her personality is such that she is one of the best-equipped Others whom Benry believes can "get through" to Jack.

However, Juliet isn't interacting with Jack 24/7. So I'm guessing that, in between Juliet's periods of "Jack-sitting," she strolls over to check on how Kate and Sawyer are doing, to help Pickett and Zeke keep the two of them in line (this is assuming that the zoo and the work camp are fairly close in proximity to the entrance/exit for the Hydra station).

It's also an excuse to give Elizabeth Mitchell more screen time.

It's also an excuse to give Elizabeth Mitchell more screen time.

I'm all for that!!

I think this island is too small and mountainous for a train to be practical esp. when you look at the size of the population and the materials to be transported. A train would require a massive investment in infrastructure and rolling stock to build a system that would have limited utility.

Housing or even a heliport makes more sense to me. Perhaps a school for all the kids they have been abducting? Or barracks for the Lostees they intend to capture?

Perhaps the others need more spaces or something for the animals so they have James,Kate and whoever those other people are clear out the rocks and stuff.

Perhaps this is an area that was damaged when the magneto-earthquake hit.

im still on a "the chain gang was only for the purposes of kate and sawyer" frame of mind. To test them.

And i cant bring myself to think a train is logical besides the landscape being unreasonable, why now and with what technology, did they happen to bring a train with them?. The only thing is maybe its housing for the losties even. Once they are brainwashed

I think that it is just something for them to do for a little. Cause really, if they wanted something to be built the proably would have taken everyone.

i need to check this out but could some of the tailies - i.e. the ones that were taken on the first night - be some of the other members of the chain gang that Kate and Sawyer were made to be part of.
they appeared to be flattening and compacting the ground proir to building or something.
i know that it all might just be part of the 'tests' but....

breakin' rocks in the hard sun ?

hopefully i'll be back with some evidence......

That's one of the big questions from this eppy. Exactly who were the other workers?

I keep changing my mind on the issue. One minute I think they are Tailies and the next minute I think they are simply some of the lower ranking residents of Othersville.

It's hard to say at this point, since we really didn't get much (if any) footage of the guards interacting with the other workers.

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A question: why does Juliet seem to show up EVERYWHERE? In the Hydra, in James' escape path last week, at the rock quarry--I mean, everywhere?




I think its because there are two of her