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meira

10-26-2006, 04:38 AM

I don't know if its Michael or not, however I think you made a really relevant point when you said what if home is the other island. Last week I think, Ben told Jack if Jack just did what they wanted, then Ben would take him home personally...take him there. It struck me really strange this man who stated right before that, that he had lived on this island ALL his life, would personally escort Jack home. Now after tonight, we see Ben showing Sawyer the other island and I can't remember if Ben referred to it as Sawyers home (I will have to rewatch that), but WHAT IF, that is exactly what Ben means when he refers to home for Jack? And what if in the background that was a red herring, possibly alerting us to the fact that the other island is home? I think you made a good point!

Noeland

10-26-2006, 05:17 AM

That's not what Ben meant, he said "That's home, right on the other side of the glass" in reference to the baseball game, and the "real world" not the island.

And that black fellow does look an awefully lot like Harold, I can see how on the TV it could fool just about anyone, but thanks to Lost-Media (again) we can see that it is not.

And if Michael was walking Jack like that, both Sawyer and Kate would have seen him in plain view, so I don't think it was supposed to BE Michael either.

That said, GREAT EYE!!!

DanRksm

10-26-2006, 05:26 AM

ya had me fooled for a sec it looks close

ammart81

10-26-2006, 11:17 AM

it's not him. go to gallery.lost-media.com file 478 of 901 of the ep. It's jsut anothe rblack guy with long-ish/similar hair to michael's

Rafiennes

10-26-2006, 11:37 AM

It's Ben Harper!

isabel_79

10-26-2006, 11:40 AM

Not Michael

BagelsAndLockes

10-26-2006, 11:41 AM

Wow....Close but no cigar. I think the HD screencap proves it beyond all doubt. Do I feel a thread lock coming on?

dushell

10-26-2006, 11:50 AM

Halcyon-

Good eye, nice catch and I know how easy it is to be convinced of something so I applaud your efforts to back up your case and your continued attempt to argue your point. Don't you feel like a full blooded member of the Lage now? I beat an issue to death in season 1 and found myslef only partially vindicated later. It's not"michael" though. If you end up right later and I was wrong I'll owe you one!

johnnywishbone

10-26-2006, 11:53 AM

It's Ben Harper!

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my thought exactly!
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And if Michael was walking Jack like that, both Sawyer and Kate would have seen him in plain view, so I don't think it was supposed to BE Michael either.

That said, GREAT EYE!!!

I think that's the key as to why it's definately not him

HoardingHurley81

10-26-2006, 11:59 AM

Ill go with an aged Walt. That is who that is....

Halcyon

10-26-2006, 12:03 PM

I dont think the HD screen cap proves that its *NOT* him, so I have to say I hope a thread lock isn't coming on. I've got HDTV, and its recorded on my DVR. If you take that screen cap from Lost-Media (this one:http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?album=1189&pos=477) and advance it maybe 3 or 4 frames you will get a perfect look at the guy's face, and I'm telling you it's Michael. Maybe I am insane, LOL but I am thoroughly convinced it was him. With all of the excitement of seeing and knowing Jack was alive (not to mention the blaring siren) I think it's possible that Kate/Sawyer could have overlooked him in the little procession, especially if he never made eye contact.
Another point I made earlier that I will reiterate again, is that at the end of S2 Ben gave Michael explicit compass directions on how to get "rescue". Since we know that scene took part on Lostie island, I think its possible that "rescue" could have been the heading for the Others' island and Michael and Walt got no further than that. Ben's references of "home" to Jack I think were alluding that Jack can either continue to be combative and not change his point of view - which would make him continue considering the island and his cage as prison; OR he could change his point of view and be allowed to walk freely at which point he could call the island "home".

Bottom line - I don't think the screen cap proves that it's NOT Michael. There are a few people who agree with me that it is him and I can admit it would make for very unusual circumstances - but it *IS* possible it could be him. We have no idea where Michael and Walt's boat went, we can only assume. Unless TPTB come out and say "it wasn't Michael, sorry" then I think we should continue working on the assumption that it was or could be him.

DharmaChick

10-26-2006, 12:06 PM

It's Ben Harper!:rotflmao2: That would be SO random!
I guess we missed him singing because all of the other noise? :biggrin:

I agree that Kate and Sawyer definitely would have reacted if they saw Michael.
There were not a lot of people in that little group, and they had a good look at all of them, so I see no reason as to why they wouldn't have noticed him there.

HoardingHurley81

10-26-2006, 12:07 PM

Pinjo

10-26-2006, 12:08 PM

Riiiiiight, and they paraded him infront of Sawyer and Kate... why?

johnnywishbone

10-26-2006, 12:12 PM

Hal..... another problem i have with the theory,
they promised Micheal he'd be going home with his son,
then they send him to another island,
i think he'd be a little pissed.
I doubt that they'd be all buddy-buddy with him,
at least not to the point where they'd give him a radio and a gun....
everything he did was for Walt, not because he wanted to become an 'Other'

now if he didn't have a gun...well, then.....maybe......

Halcyon

10-26-2006, 12:16 PM

And how do we know they didn't pull the same "con" they pulled on Sawyer (or a similar one) with Michael to force him to cooperate or to slow down and see their side of the story?
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A lot of the big clues we have been thrown so far throughout the show were only shown on screen for a couple of seconds....I think that this was another. I'm not saying that everyone should automatically believe that it WAS Michael, but rather than flat out denying it, it would be nice if people could at least entertain the thought of "what if?" Because hands-down, there isn't any way to prove that it wasn't him....if it's not him, then its a very close resemblance.... but I was hoping people would take the "what if?" part and run with it, rather than just denying it into the dirt :)

Cardielost

10-26-2006, 12:21 PM

Why don't you ask Gregg Nations if the actor was Harold Perrineau or not. That will resolve things for you.

There were tons of people who argued forever that one of the guys in the Arctic monitoring station in LTDA was Matthew Fox, and they wouldn't be convinced until Nations said it wasn't.

Cardie

johnnywishbone

10-26-2006, 12:24 PM

Hal....i commend you for even seeing this,
i'm not sayin that there's absolutely no way,
i'm just thinking there are more reasons why it's not him,
as opposed to why it is him...
eitherway, good eye!
:clapping:

DharmaChick

10-26-2006, 12:29 PM

Chuck4207

10-26-2006, 12:40 PM

It's a TV show, they are not going to put a major character in the background for a quick shot.

It's not Michael, give it a rest already

John Bender

10-26-2006, 01:42 PM

Hey look! A black actor! It MUST be Michael! :rolleyes:

Not even close.

DharmaMaria

10-26-2006, 02:39 PM

But it sure could have passed for his twin. I never even saw that too busy watching Kate and Sawyer's reaction.

pyroclastic_flo

10-26-2006, 03:30 PM

In 303 when they are marching Sawyer out to work, and they go through the canopied walkway...right before Colleen stops Danny to tell him about the boat...Behind Sawyer I could see the arm of someone carrying a gun and wearing a green T-shirt who I thought was Michael. I went through the whole sequence real slow and multiple times, and there was a fuzzy shot of his face that had me convinced it was Michael from the facial hair. Then, just a bit later when we see them all at the work area we get a clear shot of his face and I became certain I was wrong about thinking it was Michael.

Shatterhand

10-26-2006, 03:40 PM

But it sure could have passed for his twin. I never even saw that too busy watching Kate and Sawyer's reaction.

Any African American male would have passed for a "twin" to you. Everyone calling minor characters and extras twins of real characters is starting to get rrrrrrealy annoying.

Two people being black and around the same size does NOT constitute being twins. It does not even constitute a thread. It's not a clue, it's not "freaky." It's a freakin black male. Look at their [b]faces[b] for crying out loud. They don't look any more alike than Goodwin and Sawyer.

RbBrdman

10-26-2006, 03:46 PM

Not him.

penyours

10-26-2006, 03:52 PM

well, it doesn't look like him in the lost media scene and it's a bit of a stretch to say Michael is helping the others, two days after he thinks he leaves with Walt, but if you could provide that exact shot you are talking about that might help you argument. Either way I'm glad you were looking out for things like this. Keep it up in future episodes we need people looking out :)

waswere

10-26-2006, 04:03 PM

shatterhand take it down a notch. i've got the scene on pause in front of me and i can clearly see similarities, not just another "black face". When looking at enlarged screen caps it's clear that it is two different people, like everyone has been saying. In a quick two second clip it's easy to believe it's Michael if thats what you are looking for. Similar complextion, bushy hair, beard, outfit and props.

niha pleeze

10-26-2006, 05:00 PM

Hey look! A black actor! It MUST be Michael! :rolleyes:

Not even close.

Well to me, its more then a little close, he looks a decent amount like him, zoomign in and taking a good look you can see that its not him, but it does look close.
Couple of you seem to be pulling the 'dont say all blacks look alike card'. lets not jump down the OP's throat, i enjoy people taking a real close look at stuff liek this.

penyours

10-26-2006, 05:24 PM

Also, why is Walt listed as a character? I thought he wasn't not under contract with the show, is this just the IMDB listings or did his name appear in the actual credits during the show?

diabolo237

10-26-2006, 05:35 PM

Ok this is the only warning for this thread. Tone down the racial arguing thats going on. It is uncalled for and this thread will be shut down over it. If someone has a screencap that shows Harold from last night, then post it already. If no one has a screencap, then there is nothing to argue about until Gregg or someone answers this question. I suggest the back and forth "it is, it isn't" ends now until someone comes up with proof, one way or the other. But the racial stuff is to end right now. Lets just not go there at all, ok? Thanks

bourne

10-26-2006, 05:39 PM

Some people are never satisfied. Earlier someone said that Sawyer and Kate would be to busy watching Jack to notice Michael with the added confusion the alarms made.

Now if the situation was different and it really was Michael, which it clearly isn't, I wonder how many people would be screaming fowl that Sawyer and Kate didn't notice him.

This one's definately a dead horse...

waywardwanderer

10-26-2006, 05:43 PM

Thanks, diabolo. I was just about to call this to one of you guys' attention.

I definetly think we should wait and see what Nations has to say. I mean, none of us know for SURE. We can say what we think, but no one knows the facts expect for the people who work on the show.

I think everyone can agree that whoever this Other is, is similar in body type and statuer to Michael. I would even go so far as to say they have similar facial features. However, all of it is conjecture until we hear for sure.

Let's keep the peace here, shall we?

AnalogKid

10-26-2006, 05:43 PM

Nothing to see here you lookie-lous. Move along, move along.

art_lipchalk

10-26-2006, 05:54 PM

This guy with the green shirt, along with the guy on the other side of Jack, and a couple dudes in the operating room with Sawyer, will probably just end up being the Others' equivalent of the "red shirts" from the Losties' camp. So, outside of this screencap, you'll probaby not get another chance to verify who it is. But in the end I don't think it matters. Just filler to round out a group of faceless people bringing a regular cast member from point A to point B.

Kell

10-26-2006, 05:57 PM

Come on. This is LOST. OK. Pretty sure it's NOT "Michael." But the shows creators must have put this in as a RED HERRING for some reason.

No, they didn't and they never have done anything like that. Nonetheless, every week, somebody chimes in and tries to say they have. It was not Michael, and it did not look like Michael. Why does every blonde actress have to be Sara/Penny/Libby/the bomb thrower on the boat/Ms. DeGroot?
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waywardwanderer

10-26-2006, 06:03 PM

Kell, the mods have requested that the racial comments cease. Not to be a big party pooper, but I've already reported it, and unfortunately they did say we would only get one warning. So, if they lock this thread, I would just like to take the time to thank you for helping to kill a decent discussion.

Edit: Well, then, Kell... thank you for editing your post.

Kell

10-26-2006, 06:06 PM

I definetly think we should wait and see what Nations has to say. I mean, none of us know for SURE. We can say what we think, but no one knows the facts expect for the people who work on the show.

This one does not need Gregg. It is not Harold.

waywardwanderer

10-26-2006, 06:11 PM

Well, unless you were on the set, I suppose you can't know that with 100% certainty. Just let people who want to believe it's him, believe it until they hear otherwise.

And the mods did say to quit the 'it is, it isn't', if you'd like to edit this one as well.

torb28

10-26-2006, 06:48 PM

It sure looks alot like him, but this guy's face looks longer. I'd have to say it's not him.

Chad_of_Neptune

10-26-2006, 07:09 PM

Well, at least we know what to call him if he ever becomes a regular; NotMichael or Fichael ;-)

waywardwanderer

10-26-2006, 07:10 PM

ROTF@ NotMichael

mikestang

10-26-2006, 07:14 PM

Definately not Michael.
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9682/1pr3.jpg http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/8366/2fv7.jpg

diabolo237

10-26-2006, 07:49 PM

Thanks mikestang, I am pretty sure that solves the mystery.

Roritharr

10-26-2006, 07:56 PM

Mantissa

10-26-2006, 08:11 PM

This is crazy - the only similarity is age and skin colour!

TommyG

10-26-2006, 08:14 PM

I'm not even going to go there with you people. I can't believe this has gone on this long. IT IS SO NOT MICHAEL.

Matt 2108

10-26-2006, 08:34 PM

LOL, it does look like him. The hair is exactly the same.

Shatterhand

10-26-2006, 08:51 PM

http://www.makemi.de/karin/mike.jpg

it seems not to be the same actor, but why would the creators of the show put an other in the scene that looks that identically to micheal? he wears his hairs like him, he has the same skin color, he wears nearly the same clothes... why?

He's NOT identical to Michael. He's only identical to people that desperately want to invent clues to Lost where they don't exist. Yes, the extra in the scene is African American. Yes, Michael is also African American. Same clothes??? Aren't almost all of the others in a pants and t-shirt like that???

Halcyon

10-26-2006, 08:57 PM

Well, I'm the OP and man.... it sure is nice that you all jump down someone's throat for examining little details. All I attempted to do was start a healthy discussion/debate on what the implications could be *IF* it was Michael. Pretty soon it boiled into more or less "you guys are idiots if you think that's Michael" thread. The bottom line is, not a SINGLE person who has posted to this thread knows the current location of Michael or Walt, and it's a perfectly plausible idea (notice I said IDEA, not fact) that they are somewhere on the Others' island now. For those of you who had the open-mindedness to see where I was coming from, thanks; I really appreciate it. For those of you who chimed in just to say "You guys are idiots", or "this is a stupid thread, lock it", **MOD edited** There, I'm done venting for the moment LOL FYI - I have posted a question to Gregg Nations, so we will just wait and hear what he says. If I turn out to be right, or turn out to be wrong; either way, I was expecting more encouragement, debate, and thinking from this board rather than the bickering that has went on for the past 15 posts or so. We will just wait and see what Mr. Nations says. Thanks again!

Kell

10-26-2006, 09:04 PM

halfrek

10-26-2006, 09:55 PM

lets all just take a moment and relax. there is no need to become rude or insult other posters. i will unlock this thread ONLY if you all will play nice. this thread HAD calmed down somewhat until some people stirred things up again. so yeah let's all play nice and get on with the polite debate.

thank you.

BlockBusterBillionaire

10-27-2006, 01:41 AM

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's:

WALT!
That boy has DEFINITELY aged! He must've jumped ship.

NCJames

10-27-2006, 08:13 AM

My opinion, worth no more than anyone else's, is that the producers deliberately stuck a guy in who looks enough like Michael to cause such a thread as this to be started. Just a thought.

amslostfan

10-27-2006, 09:24 AM

Wow its quite a close resemblence to micheal ! Nice find.

JDB

10-27-2006, 09:48 AM

For a second there, I actually thought it was him. But seeing that HD pic, it's definetly not.

vodo

10-27-2006, 10:12 AM

Well guys i've watched it sevral times and it's not micheal ,this guy looks like him
but it's not micheal

Shatterhand

10-27-2006, 11:04 AM

Well guys i've watched it sevral times and it's not micheal ,this guy looks like him
but it's not micheal

Yes, we've figured that out.

bigdog13

10-27-2006, 11:40 AM

How come Sawyer is escorting Jack to the surgery and the girl from Grey's Anatomy is in this episode as well? Who is that in the background? Duece Biggilow?

diabolo237

10-27-2006, 11:44 AM

Yes, we've figured that out.

How come Sawyer is escorting Jack to the surgery and the girl from Grey's Anatomy is in this episode as well? Who is that in the background? Duece Biggilow?

There have been several warning in this thread for baiting, etc. If you have nothing constructive to add to the topic then please refrain from adding sarcasm for the sake of posting. This is baiting, it is a warnable offense, and this is the third time its been addressed in this thread.

jericho73

10-27-2006, 12:38 PM

It really doesn't look like Michael much at all, but here is who i think it was. He's one of the tailsection survivors the others took, compare....maybe i'm insane but looks alot closer then Michael.

http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?album=814&pos=161 -Season 2

http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?album=1189&pos=477 -last Wed.

Halcyon

10-27-2006, 12:46 PM

Kell

10-27-2006, 12:56 PM

Hey....that's really good! I think the guy in the pic you posted standing behind Ana is actually a closer match than Michael. Good eye! But this now poses another question... if those 2 are the same guy, then we know the Others are capturing/converting survivors of the crash. Where is Cindy, and when might we see her again?

Here's my question for those who think that they guy moving Sawyer is from flight 815 (Michael or otherwise): What have we ever seen on Lost that was only onscreen for a couple of seconds that has turned out to be of any significance? I suggest that nothing in this show will ever require screen caps to advance the plot in a meaningful way. I am honestly interested in a response to this question, because I think it highlights a real difference in opinion over how this show is structured.

jericho73

10-27-2006, 01:19 PM

BigAsHurley

10-27-2006, 01:26 PM

Here's my question for those who think that they guy moving Sawyer is from flight 815 (Michael or otherwise): What have we ever seen on Lost that was only onscreen for a couple of seconds that has turned out to be of any significance? I suggest that nothing in this show will ever require screen caps to advance the plot in a meaningful way. I am honestly interested in a response to this question, because I think it highlights a real difference in opinion over how this show is structured.On the other hand, TPTB (Carlton Cuse, I think) has also said, "If it appears on screen, it's significant."

I agree with you that nothing is likely to require screen caps to advance the plot meaningfully. If some of the tail section survivors have been converted, we ultimately won't be required to spot something in a screen cap to learn that fact. It will be introduced fully when it's relevant to the plot.

But...

That doesn't mean that spotting something in a screen cap is irrelevant either. For example, if TPTB ultimately do reveal that some Tailies have joined the Others, then folks might go back and check Others in the background in previous episodes, looking for Tailies. If they don't find any, then the question will be, "If some Tailies long since joined the Others, how come we never saw any of them?"

Well, now we have (possibly) seen at least one of them. So now, if it's revealed that some Tailies joined the Others, people looking for Tailies in past episodes can find some, and gasp at the cleverness of TPTB. :)
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My opinion, worth no more than anyone else's, is that the producers deliberately stuck a guy in who looks enough like Michael to cause such a thread as this to be started. Just a thought.A distinct possibility.

Plus, just to add fuel to the fire, has anyone ever said that it's a drop-dead lock that if it's not the same actor, it can't be the same character? I mean, everyone keeps saying it can't be Michael because the actor isn't Harold. Well, Harold isn't Michael either... Harold is Harold. Michael is a fictional persona that could (theoretically) be portrayed by any number of actors...

jericho73

10-27-2006, 01:42 PM

On the other hand, TPTB (Carlton Cuse, I think) has also said, "If it appears on screen, it's significant."

I agree with you that nothing is likely to require screen caps to advance the plot meaningfully. If some of the tail section survivors have been converted, we ultimately won't be required to spot something in a screen cap to learn that fact. It will be introduced fully when it's relevant to the plot.

But...

That doesn't mean that spotting something in a screen cap is irrelevant either. For example, if TPTB ultimately do reveal that some Tailies have joined the Others, then folks might go back and check Others in the background in previous episodes, looking for Tailies. If they don't find any, then the question will be, "If some Tailies long since joined the Others, how come we never saw any of them?"

Well, now we have (possibly) seen at least one of them. So now, if it's revealed that some Tailies joined the Others, people looking for Tailies in past episodes can find some, and gasp at the cleverness of TPTB. :)

I agree with this 100%...i've long believed that anything that advances the plot, anything the viewer is supposed to know, will never be revealed through internet disection of screencaps, discussion etc. We're the small percentage that do this folks, the average viewer doesn't. When we are supposed to know a plot point, or realize what it means, we will, LOST has never been subtle about saying "you should know/remember this, hint hint" IMO.

However, the producers also know the show is dissected by internet fans, and does throw tidbits in for them. Is this one? Maybe, maybe not. Is it important now? Probably not. If they wanted the audience as a whole to know this guy was a talie, that point would've been communicated clearly, not by having him as a 2 sec extra. But again i go back to Cindy, she was a 2 sec extra, and ten when the story was more focused on her...people on the net went back and saw her 2 sec extra scenes from season 1 and said "Wow, great continuity, she really was a stewardess on the plane from the beginning!"

Halcyon

10-27-2006, 01:46 PM

Shatterhand

10-27-2006, 06:14 PM

The map Locke saw, the shark, the x-rays, and the smoke monster are "tiny tidbits?"

Those things might have just appeared for a few seconds, but they weren't tiny tidbits. I guarantee every single Lost fan saw the smoke monster. I seriously doubt any Lost fan sat through the whole shark scene and didn't notice anything out of the usual happening.

A black guy standing in the background for 1 second can not be compared to the smoke monster. Come on...

bryce110

10-27-2006, 06:41 PM

Kell - There are lots of things that have been shown onscreen for only a couple of seconds that I think will eventually be important to the storyline (not necessarily revealed to us as of now). The hatch mural, the UV map Locke saw on the blast doors, the smoke monster, the shark with the DHARMA logo on it, the burning cigarette in the Pearl hatch, the Whispers, the x-rays Jack saw in EMFH, I'm sure I could go on.... for the casual viewer, I certainly don't think that catching all of these tiny tidbits is essential to understanding the show. As TPTB have stated, for those of us who do wish to analyze these tidbits, it may provide us with additional foreshadowing of events to come, or provide more information on the mythology/history involved but it certainly isn't necessary to analyze them to watch the show as a casual viewer.
Halcyon, the objective phrase here is that "[you] think" these things will "eventually" be important to the storyline. Regardless of what "TPTB" have said thus far, we are in the THIRD season, so you should be able to provide at least ONE example of something that would normally be overlooked if not for a screen capture but that has been revealed to be extremely relevant to the story.

The map Locke saw, the shark, the x-rays, and the smoke monster are "tiny tidbits?"

Those things might have just appeared for a few seconds, but they weren't tiny tidbits. I guarantee every single Lost fan saw the smoke monster. I seriously doubt any Lost fan sat through the whole shark scene and didn't notice anything out of the usual happening.

A black guy standing in the background for 1 second can not be compared to the smoke monster. Come on...
Shatterhand, I agree with you. People tend to resemble each other from time to time. Sharks are not frequently born with Dharma logos etched on their skin. Locke stared at the Hatch mural and attempted to recreate it on a piece of paper for an entire episode. We may have only seen the Hatch mural for a mere few seconds, but it plainly was something we were meant to see. On the other hand, it's difficult to make a similar claim when a non-speaking, otherwise unimportant, character resembles another character. It's difficult and frustrating to argue this case when we're not allowed to discuss a specific part of this "theory"..... :undecide:

Jealous_Guy

10-27-2006, 06:46 PM

I don't know if it's worth pointing out, but I noticed that Adewale's name appears in the credits of the very first Episode, "A Tale Of Two Cities", yet he is not actually in that episode. I'm pretty sure his name is in the "Glass Ballerina" credits too, he's not in that episode either. So if Malcolm/Harold did appear in the credits to this episode (haven't bothered to check), that would probably be irrelevant as well.

I was the Pilot

10-27-2006, 06:48 PM

Please go back and look again...right at 32 minutes. Walking just behind Juliet over her left shoulder is Michael. He has his same green tshirt on, and a rifle slung on his shoulder. I recorded it in HD, and I'm certain it was him. IMDB also lists him as a cast member for this episode. Please look again!!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0850964/

When I was watching this episode a second time I saw. It. I said the same thing. It is hard to tell but it looks EXACTLY like him. Very odd that they would put a guy that looks identical to Michael in the background on accident.
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This is crazy - the only similarity is age and skin colour!

...and hair style, goatee, clothing, facial features. Come on. You can't sit there and say that those are the only things that are the same.

diabolo237

10-27-2006, 07:14 PM

Wow, I guess Gregg hasn't weighed in yet. My biggest thing that leads me to think its not Michael is that Sawyer and Kate did not recognize him. They recognized Jack in a hood because of his tattoo, but they can't recognize Michael plain as day in front of them?

Joybeans

10-27-2006, 07:16 PM

I rewatched the part of the episode that Michael was suppose to be seen in. I paused it in a couple spots and tried to get a closer view. It could be him but I have one question. If Michael is in the group taking Jack to the operating room, why isn't Kate and Sawyer noticing Michael and yelling his name too? :pumpking: Happy Halloween :pumpking:

:sawyer:
He's the greatest Lostie

crashsurvivor

10-27-2006, 08:13 PM

This site has him listed in the credits too, and only for this episode. I don't think it's him, but it is interesting.

http://www.tv.com/lost/every-man-for-himself/episode/857995/summary.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=episodessh&tag=episodes;title;1

snakey

10-27-2006, 08:36 PM

it looks like HP but he's taller than HP, that is what I saw first thing. I think the finale will be a M and W re-appearance, it's tradition at this point to see Michael on a boat.

Elevation

10-27-2006, 08:40 PM

I think Baghdad Bob is posting in this thread.

"There are no Amercians in Baghdad".

-"Sir look out back!"

"I refuse to belive that"

islandchica

10-27-2006, 09:07 PM

Not Michael....it looks like him in the small cap...but when made large, you see that it's not him. Just a guy who resembles him.
http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?album=1189&pos=477
Nope, not Michael. But thank you for posting the screencap, DaNay, this thread got me VERY curious!

ms_mj

10-27-2006, 10:11 PM

Halcyon

10-27-2006, 10:32 PM

Haha....well thanks Ms_Mj, but I think that I have been proven wrong; though I guess we can still wait on Mr. Nations to make an official announcement. There was someone earlier who posted a very good screen cap of who I think that guy actually is. He was one of the Tailies in S2 and was standing behind Ana when she was looking into her little prison pit. I didn't realize that my suggestion it might be Michael would cause so much furor :) But then again, it's little things like that that make me love this damn board :)
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And I am asking myself the same question regarding why Kate and Sawyer didn't recognize or yell at "Michael" (if it was indeed him). But, the same questions came up regarding Desmond when he returned to the Losties camp in Further Instructions, as to why no one really paid any attention to him or even acknowledged his presence. Is it a long-shot to say that the little 2 second glance at that guy could be Michael? Yes, I can acknowledge that... but with all the twists and turns this show has taken in its 3 seasons I suppose nothing should surprise us by now... it really sucks that this seems to have turned into an argument of sorts, because I usually don't jump all over things like this - but for some reason it totally caught my attention when I watched it live. Glad to see I at least have a thread full of comments I suppose :) LOL

Hanso Founder

10-27-2006, 11:42 PM

diabolo237

10-28-2006, 01:42 PM

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=62056&highlight=michael

Case closed, Gregg says its NOT Michael...

Shatterhand

10-28-2006, 04:53 PM

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=62056&highlight=michael

Case closed, Gregg says its NOT Michael...

Wow what a shock.
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YOU... ARE... MY... HERO.
i think that is the best thing that anyone has ever seen, ever.
brilliant!

Why was that brilliant? That IMDB page listed the whole cast. Are you two meaning to tell me Walt was also in this episode?

Nevermore

10-28-2006, 05:03 PM

I can't believe this thread has been going on for twelve pages.

Shatterhand

10-28-2006, 05:10 PM

I can't believe this thread has been going on for twelve pages.

I can, given the history of this message board. Look at all of the other topics that have gone on for pages. They typically have to do with some spilt-second screen shot. Remember the whole smoke thing in the pilot?

penyours

10-28-2006, 05:14 PM

I think the gunman escorting Jack had a more of resemblance to Michael than the taillie. The guy standing in the background is starting to bald. That said, i would love to see some converted taillies in the others camp, though i have the feeling, if that were the case, we would have seen one by now.

Yes, Cindy. She was onscreen during the first season in a few instances in a very very limited role, a role easy to pass off as just an extra. Then at the first quarter of season 2 her role became bigger. There are a few examples like hers, where small roles for people turned into bigger roles eventually.

Or it could just be a continuinty thing, where the guy is on the crew/ is a local extra and the PTB thought it would be a neat little tidbit to throw him in.

this is true but people like Cindy and ana had speaking parts and others like Penny, had the camera focus directly on them and pause for a few seconds rather than have them in the background.