Now that we had a little more meatier scene with him, what do you guys think? He seemed kinda like a jerk to a certain extent. He didn't really seem to care about anyone...

And the scene with him, even though I know he's around now, still suprised me. It took me a second to even realize who this was and that he's actually a cast member now.

What do you guys think?

He's a hottie, that's for sure. But his two lines definitely made him seem like a jerk.

He's like a younger, skinnier Fabio. I'm waiting for him to say "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter."

Honestly, I think his introduction has been slightly awkward. They managed to pull it off with Ethan and Arntz, but that's probably because in the first season, we were almost expecting to learn about a new lostie every now and then. So far, I think he's rather boring as he doesn't really do anything, and this is why I think it's been a clumsy intro.

However, managed to get a cute Desmond scene out of the deal! ;)

He's a hottie, that's for sure.

Hahahaha. Yes this is true, though I am not a huge fan of his mullet-esque haircut ;)

And good point about Artz and Ethan, Amber. Their introductions both felt more natural than this... I'm trying to figure out why that is, but them seemed to fit with the storyline better I think. It could just have easily been Hurley or Charlie or anyone playing golf.

That was it?? Him hitting golf balls into the ocean and some dithery banter with Desmond? Far cry from Arntz telling people they are going to die if they sail their raft or Ethan's shocking appearence as the first Other...

BORing. I wonder if things would have been more entertaining if they had shown the scene cut from last week,

Claire catching him and Nikki having sex in Jack's tent.

I wish he would go away. They could have done that scene with Hurley playing golf, a lot more pleasantly.

Total waste of time and space. When you can only find time for your main characters every other episode, or every third episode, you don't need to bring on another "hottie" to take up airspace. Get rid of him.

I can't help but think TPTB are purposely trying to make us hate Paolo, first the clumsy introduction and then he heartless jerk lines in this episode. Now why would they do that.

My guess is we're supposed to hate him now, think he's a selfish jerk and then a future flashback will reveal that he's just misunderstood and was hurt by someone in his youth. He really has a heart of gold. Then he'll die.

Someone let TPTB know that we figured it out and they can move on now.

I wish he would go away. They could have done that scene with Hurley playing golf, a lot more pleasantly.

Agreed! Hurley is one of my absolute favorites and he was only in one short scene. I think that's the main feeling I'm getting from fellow fans: with such a large cast, many of our favorites get such a short amount of time as it is. By bringing in more people, it will only further reduce the amount of time characters we actually care about are seen.

I was more impressed with his pic on wiki then his performance... but he really didn't have a good line or reason to make a memorable first impression on the viewer. But, he certainly made Desmond look tons and tons better ! eta, not that Desmond needed any help in that department. Perhaps he will be the alter-ego as he looks somewhat like Des ?

I just don't see the point. They have done such a poor job of bringing these new losties. It seems forced into the storyline and considering the fans want every minute to count of the show, I see them as a harsh intrusion into the storyline. I hope they can turn them around cuz they are so far wasting valuable epi time.

I'm not going to make any judgements yet...he seemed kind of like a jerk, but at the same time, it's almost justified. I've always gotten the feeling that there was sort of a "Good Old Boys Club" with the Losties (Jack, Locke, Sayid - sometimes including Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley) and if you weren't in with them, you weren't privvy to any information - ie Nikki and Paulo being so clueless about Jack not being around. I can understand why there would be resentment about not being given any information and not being asked to go on any of their little adventures. I'm going to wait to form my opinions on Paulo (and Nikki) after I see him for more than 5 minutes, preferably in a more action-oriented sequence.

I hate him. I want him to go away.
He is the first character I've said that about. And I mean it. I'll be thrilled if I never see him again.

BORing. I wonder if things would have been more entertaining if they had shown the scene cut from last week,

Claire catching him and Nikki having sex in Jack's tent.

I wish he would go away. They could have done that scene with Hurley playing golf, a lot more pleasantly.

I agree wholeheartedly.

I can't help but think TPTB are purposely trying to make us hate Paolo, first the clumsy introduction and then he heartless jerk lines in this episode. Now why would they do that.

I agree. But I still don't like it.

My guess is we're supposed to hate him now, think he's a selfish jerk and then a future flashback will reveal that he's just misunderstood and was hurt by someone in his youth. He really has a heart of gold. Then he'll die.

Someone let TPTB know that we figured it out and they can move on now.

:rotflmao: You kill me, PJ.

I'm not going to make any judgements yet...he seemed kind of like a jerk, but at the same time, it's almost justified. I've always gotten the feeling that there was sort of a "Good Old Boys Club" with the Losties (Jack, Locke, Sayid - sometimes including Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley) and if you weren't in with them, you weren't privvy to any information -

But it's been so done before. We know from Arzt that people feel left out from the "cool kids." Boo-hoo... I don't care! I like the cool kids of Lost!

I think anyone snooty enough to look down on the people who have been trying to keep his sorry keester safe on this weird Island, AND is stupid enough to hit all the golf balls into the ocean (you gonna hit rocks and seashells when you run out of balls, pal?). . .well, I wish they'd just send him over to the tender mercies of The Others!

Sorry. Guess I'm too shy to tell you how I really feel! :10:

Paulo just has too much sass to be likeable.

But it's been so done before. We know from Arzt that people feel left out from the "cool kids." Boo-hoo... I don't care! I like the cool kids of Lost!

Hahahaha. So true! I love the cool clique on the island! I don't care about the loser clique :tongue1:

And it's Paulo, isn't it? Sorry for messing up the title of the thread! :blushing:

Pointless. Boring.

But he's hot, so at least he's got that going for him.

I think it is waaaay to soon to tell about Paulo or Nikki.

I know I am in the minority (and this being my first post and all) but I don't mind they way they were introduced.

My guess is we're supposed to hate him now, think he's a selfish jerk and then a future flashback will reveal that he's just misunderstood and was hurt by someone in his youth. He really has a heart of gold. Then he'll die.

Someone let TPTB know that we figured it out and they can move on now.

:biglaugh:that's hilarious pj!

I think anyone snooty enough to look down on the people who have been trying to keep his sorry keester safe on this weird Island, AND is stupid enough to hit all the golf balls into the ocean (you gonna hit rocks and seashells when you run out of balls, pal?). . .well, I wish they'd just send him over to the tender mercies of The Others!

Sorry. Guess I'm too shy to tell you how I really feel! :10:

Yeah the golf balls into the ocean just seemed idiot and wasteful, hey did desmond say that the golf clubs belonged to Paulo?

But it's been so done before. We know from Arzt that people feel left out from the "cool kids." Boo-hoo... I don't care! I like the cool kids of Lost!

ROFL! I like the cool kids too! Stop whining Paulo that you're not one of the cool kids. No. One. Cares.

I can't help but think TPTB are purposely trying to make us hate Paolo, first the clumsy introduction and then he heartless jerk lines in this episode. Now why would they do that.Possibly. If so, they've done a great job! I can't stand the guy.

Sullen, mean to Desmond (???), generally being a jerk - what's not to like?? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Save The Humans I think anyone snooty enough to look down on the people who have been trying to keep his sorry keester safe on this weird Island, AND is stupid enough to hit all the golf balls into the ocean (you gonna hit rocks and seashells when you run out of balls, pal?). . .well, I wish they'd just send him over to the tender mercies of The Others!
Sorry. Guess I'm too shy to tell you how I really feel! :10:

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Does anyone fear this could be Ana-Lucia all over again? They'll make him so rotten that they'll spend an entire season trying to rehabilitate him just so we'll care when he dies. Only we won't, so they'll have to take out someone else along with him for emotional impact.

I hope it's Nikki.

Yeah, pacejunkie, I'm really wondering what the point of having two recurrings is at this point in the year (try that again -- series), if not to do something big and dramatic with them.

I hope not, though.

Does anyone fear this could be Ana-Lucia all over again? They'll make him so rotten that they'll spend an entire season trying to rehabilitate him just so we'll care when he dies. Only we won't, so they'll have to take out someone else along with him for emotional impact.

I hope it's Nikki.

I really hope they don't repeat story lines that like. That would be ridiculous. We don't need that storyline again! Been there, done that. Let's move along to some more Hurley scenes, please and thank you :smile:

his new name is pao-lulu

totally unlikable,pointless character at this point.

Why do we need him in the cast?
Hopefully they ice him, the cast could use a bit of culling the herd...

I hated Nikki last week, I hate Paulo even more this week.

He looks like he just came from a country club, not like he has been on an island 70 days. Now we know who's hoarding all the hair brushes and hair care products.

I wish Desmond would have taken that 5 iron to Paulo's head after he said "Oh, you play golf" all condescendingly.

He's probably just canon fodder they're building into the story so TPTB can have a "regular" cast member they can kill off without getting rid of any of the real regular cast members.

And I'm not sure, I'll have to rewatch it, but I'm not sure if those were golf balls he was hitting in the water. That last one he hit looked like some sort of shell was knocked off of it and the inside is what went flying into the water. I hope noboby starts a "What was Paulo really golfing with?" thread.:biggrin:

Does anyone fear this could be Ana-Lucia all over again? They'll make him so rotten that they'll spend an entire season trying to rehabilitate him just so we'll care when he dies. Only we won't, so they'll have to take out someone else along with him for emotional impact.

I hope it's Nikki.

This is why we all love you PJ, you always see thru these types of distractions on the show. I totally agree with everyone that feel he has to go, he needs to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With Arzt and Ethan it was season 1, and the crash had recently happened, so it was not totally crazy to introduce characters never really seen before. But it's season 3 for God's sake, can TPTB wake up and live in the real world for 5 minutes a day. WE DON"T NEED NEW LOSTIES!!!
It's only going to distract from the real story, plus it takes away from the screen time of the characters we really want to see. And they are only going to do another Ana Lucia with this, so just let it go now. Let's keep this show moving forward.

P.S. I LOVED THE "I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTTER" JOKE!!! ROFL:roflmao:priceless.

Don't care about him, seems like he's kind of a Richard...;) I think TPTB hit lighting in a bottle with Eko and Desmond, but all the other new characters they've introduced have been kind of ehhhh.

Speaking of Desmond, Paulo despite his rudeness, still couldn't rile him.

Don't care about him, seems like he's kind of a Richard...;) I think TPTB hit lighting in a bottle with Eko and Desmond, but all the other new characters they've introduced have been kind of ehhhh.

Hahaha. I don't know whether to start calling him Richard or Paul-lulu. I like them both. :biggrin:

Speaking of Desmond, Paulo despite his rudeness, still couldn't rile him.

That's because Desmond knows he's the coolest new addition to the cast. :)

No doubt, other than when he thought the world was going to end and El Jacko was pointing a gun at him, Desmond has always been one to keep his head, and be pleasant.

I don't like him, Not sure why they are even bringing new characters onto the show when all we care about are the main ones we have grown to love, Forget paulo and nikki, I want to see more of Bernard and Rose.

That's because Desmond knows he's the coolest new addition to the cast. :)

Oh for sure! :smile:

Desmond's addition has been seamless. He fits in and makes sense with the story. TPTB have said that both Desmond and Henry Gale were happy accidents - characters they just had to keep since they worked so well. And look what happened with them - they've been absolutely embraced by the fans, both of them.

But these two they are forcing on the story, and I don't think it works half as well. Plus I don't see the need for new characters. There are FIVE new characters to the cast this year - Benry, Desmond, Juliet, Paulo and Nikki. I think they would have been fine - and the fans happier - with just the first three.

Maybe in time, both Paula and Nikki will have some importance to the show and we'll all love them. I just don't like having more characters who are going to sap the time of Charlie, Claire, Hurley and every other more minor season one character.

Wait, where has he been for the past two seasons? Hiding in the bushes? A little lame.

Although tonight he seemed a lot like Sawyer was at the start of the show. Maybe since Sawyer has adapted they needed a new Sawyer character? I don't know. I still think there should be a reference to why we havent seen these people for the past 70 days.
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He's probably just canon fodder they're building into the story so TPTB can have a "regular" cast member they can kill off without getting rid of any of the real regular cast members.

This really worries me, because this is what we all want. But that would be really lame from a writer's standpoint, to just keep creating new "main" characters so you can kill them off with ease. Which leads me to the unhappy conclusion that TPTB will kill off a beloved character and keep these mysterious newbies on.

If Paulo is such an avid golfer, where was he during the island golf tourny?

Haha, uncast-away! I'm not funny...

I really hope Paulo gives us a look into what the average lostie has been doing since they crashed here. He's obviously not (yet) a leader in the group, so it should be nice to see how this island is effecting the laymen.

Don't care about him, seems like he's kind of a Richard...;) I think TPTB hit lighting in a bottle with Eko and Desmond, but all the other new characters they've introduced have been kind of ehhhh.

I would add Benry and Juliet along with Desmond and Eko.

My guess is we're supposed to hate him now, think he's a selfish jerk and then a future flashback will reveal that he's just misunderstood and was hurt by someone in his youth. He really has a heart of gold. Then he'll die.

Someone let TPTB know that we figured it out and they can move on now.

YOU ARE DEAD ON! (No pun intended).

The introduced 3 new regulars last season and only one survived. I think they're scared to kill off any of the main Losties now, so thay'll have to bring in new blood to keep the life/death stakes high.

I guess I could throw Benry up there, he's good as the evil genius. Juliet hasn't really done anything for me...

his two lines definitely made him seem like a jerk.

My first thought was the same, but then i realized, maybe that was intentional.
I think they might be setting Paolo up to be this rich brazilian boy with expensive tastes and not much real life experience besides being self-indulgent, only to change him and how he treats people as show progress.

YOU ARE DEAD ON! (No pun intended).

The introduced 3 new regulars last season and only one survived. I think they're scared to kill off any of the main Losties now, so thay'll have to bring in new blood to keep the life/death stakes high.

I'm kind of afraid of the opposite now. Since they just killed 2 recent additions to the cast, I'm worried they've brought on on Paulo and Nikki to replace characters we actually care about who are going to be killed to keep the stakes high.

Frankly, I would rather the stakes weren't high and all the original Season One characters were safe :smile:

Hate 'em. He looks like a Brazilian Sawyer, but he has that "doesn't fit it w/ the rest" image that Ana-Lucia had. Really hated her. Maybe he will redeem himself, however, Ana-Lucia was hated from the start.

"Take the five iron, I don't use the five iron much"...You're hitting f'ing fruit into the ocean. It doesn't matter if you have a 5 iron or a 5 wood.

Can we please, please get rid of these two.

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Did I see Nikki in the preview for next week? Crap I think I did. Damn!

My first thought was the same, but then i realized, maybe that was intentional.
I think they might be setting Paolo up to be this rich brazilian boy with expensive tastes and not much real life experience besides being self-indulgent, only to change him and how he treats people as show progress.
Yeah, but if this is true, even Shannon shaped up within a few weeks. It's been 71 days now and he's still a snob?
I really hate to jump to conclusions about new characters, but who are these new people to talk to our beloved Losties the way they have? I think that if TPTB wanted to, they easily could've introduced them in a way that we would be happier with. The first words we hear from Nikki are scolding Hurley (it's even mean when the Losties are mad at him, much less some new person) and Paulo is saying mean things to Desmond. And I feel that there's no reason to be that way to Des as he hasn't been back long enough for Paulo to judge him.
And I'm worried that you guys are right about them bringing them in so they can kill off a Lostie. Please say it aint so!

He came off as a very smirky, little toot to me. I really don't like his character at all and am hoping that they will stop wasting air time w/ these 2 new losties.

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I don't really see where he is so sexy and good looking...I mean we already have several great looking guys on the cast...and he just doesn't do it for me. While I am at it and I know alot of guys will probably disagree, but I don't see where Nikki is all that hot either....Kate and Claire put her to shame!

Hate 'em. He looks like a Brazilian Sawyer, but he has that "doesn't fit it w/ the rest" image that Ana-Lucia had. Really hated her. Maybe he will redeem himself, however, Ana-Lucia was hated from the start.


So he is the new Shannon/Ana with facial hair??? Shannon - spoiled brat everyone finally fell for. Ana - misunderstood-rude-brash-for-a-reason-we-dont-know-about-until-later.
This is what he is there for??? I personally dont need anymore of that. Bring on Smokey!! (Maybe Smokey will like all of the Dippity-Do Paulo uses on his do)

Oh, we all know the fate of pau-lulu/richard and nikki. They will do something undisney like and there will be a bunch of mod edits.

but really, nikki hasn't bothered me yet, because she's only been on like for a minute total.

but paulo, i already hate him, and i'm thinking thats what the writers wanted. so good job TPTB

I think everyone needs to calm down.

We know the writers are not dumb enough to write in chracters that have the same traits and archs as past characters. There has to be a significant reason why these new characters have been added, and I'm excited to see why.

So stop giving so much crap to the new characters. I know we all have super high standards for Lost; but let's not forget, it's still better than 99 percent of the crap that's out on television these days.

I’m not impressed by him.

I'm not going to make any judgements yet...he seemed kind of like a jerk, but at the same time, it's almost justified. I've always gotten the feeling that there was sort of a "Good Old Boys Club" with the Losties (Jack, Locke, Sayid - sometimes including Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley) and if you weren't in with them, you weren't privvy to any information - ie Nikki and Paulo being so clueless about Jack not being around. I can understand why there would be resentment about not being given any information and not being asked to go on any of their little adventures. I'm going to wait to form my opinions on Paulo (and Nikki) after I see him for more than 5 minutes, preferably in a more action-oriented sequence.
I was trying to read the first three pages here before I said something lest I repeat someone else, and you've said exactly what I was thinking. Now, we did see him briefly last week, but I really didn't think he was a jerk this week. Heck, they've been there, what, 70 some days now and only some people are in the cool group and leave all the others out. I swear this is like high school, and I'm suddenly reminded of the Bowling for Soup song. Anyway, I imagine some people who have been in the background just taking orders all this time are feeling some resentment.

Still, hostility or resentment toward Desmond seemed odd. It would have been more logical to play this card toward another Oceanic survivor.

I hate his character. He adds nothing to the storyline or how we learn info from the characters through his interaction with them. I hope a coconut falls on his head and he joins the ranks of the survivor "nonsurvivors".

Yeah, but if this is true, even Shannon shaped up within a few weeks. It's been 71 days now and he's still a snob?

That's a really good point I didn't think about. We're all thinking like he's a noob who still has to get over the crash and blend in, but he isn't. He's presumably had all this time to find his place.

Oh, we all know the fate of pau-lulu/richard and nikki. They will do something undisney like and there will be a bunch of mod edits.

Heh. :biggrin:

Still, hostility or resentment toward Desmond seemed odd. It would have been more logical to play this card toward another Oceanic survivor.

I thought that was strange too. Now if he had said that to Locke or Sayid, one of the camp heroes that's always going into the jungle to save someone that would be one thing, but Desmond just got there like 3 days ago and spent most of that time drunk. Is Pau-lulu assuming Desmond was on the plane and is part of the inner circle? Does he not even know who he is?

Honestly, I think they just made Paolo and Nikki (I think that's her name) to flesh out the beach camp a bit. The numbers are getting thin when you think about it. Ana Lucia, Libby, Boone, Shannon, Jack, Sawyer, Kate, Michael, Walt, Vincent, Jin, Sun, and Sayid are all gone, dead or no longer on the beach.

I agree that at this point it is pretty akward to just toss in two totally random new charachters we have never seen before, but I'm not ready to hate them because of rushed writing. I just hope that they are actually meaningful and not just padding to flesh out an extra few episodes to squeeze an extra season out.

Anyway, here's hoping he turns out to be more than a redshirt with an attitude and a flashback episode.

his character doesnt add much. Also saw him in real life, strange personality, and wearing a speedo... so there is my opinion... Ian (desmond) is cool though, as is terry (locke) both very nice.

CALM DOWN. What's with the hate? We've barely seen three seconds of him.

Okay, now I'm asking questions I know the answers to again. You hate him, because he took three seconds of screentime from Hurley. I get it. :rolleyes: I mean, please! At least give him a chan

Can't say much yet, he's only had a couple of lines, of course noone is going to be blown away by him or love his character already!! We'll see in time.

Paulo is reinforcing how Dr. Artz and all the other survivors feel. They are never involved in the plottage of the show. They just sit on the beach and create the feeling that more people that Jack...Kate and Sawyer survived the crash. I think that it will be interesting to see that kind of uprisal from the other people on the island, because from the two that we have met they are rather bitter about not being in the action.

Would have preffered if Desmond just took the golf club without asking he was doing it for the good of others not for himself and he came off as being rude to someone who almost died just yeterday.

Would have preffered more Charlie/Claire time & seeing how Locke is planning

I really liked him tonight. He seems like the new Shannon. HE's not going to go into the dangerous jungle, it might wrinkle his shirt. LOL!

I didn't like or dislike him. I just found the whole scene kind of a throwaway. They could've had Desmond getting the club from anyone or it could've just been in the bag with no one using them. I guess the writers threw that in to get us used to Paolo.

Pointless... I just don't get what they're playing at. If they're meant to be characters like Rose and Bernard, then why the sudden out of the blue focus on them? Start off with them in the background, then a couple of 'Hey!' here and there, and then maybe incorperate them into an episodes plot.
So far they've been thrown into two awkard situations with no purpose. It's like their chasing their own tails.
Sayid, Charlie, Claire, Sun, Jin and Hurley NEED more screentime, they've been overtaken but Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Locke. Why they are wasting time on two nobodies, who are going to die anyways, is beyond me. The whole beach plot has felt rushed (the camps reaction to Michael? Panic over loss of a leader? Building of an army? Hurley's loss of Libby, at the hands of his friend? C/C's relationship?!? WHERE is it? Desmond's angst over Penny? WHERE is Eko? How's he going? Does no one care that S/S/J are no where to be seen?) and they're wasting precious time on two unlikable-soon-to-be-likeable-after-you-see-their-past characters...

...While I am at it and I know alot of guys will probably disagree, but I don't see where Nikki is all that hot either....Kate and Claire put her to shame!

Oh no, you're spot on, that is definitely true!

CALM DOWN. What's with the hate? We've barely seen three seconds of him.

Okay, now I'm asking questions I know the answers to again. You hate him, because he took three seconds of screentime from Hurley. I get it. :rolleyes: I mean, please! At least give him a chan

Those 3 seconds will turn into 3 minutes which in turn will turn into Paulo being a major character which will turn to a Paulo centric eppisode with flashbacks--All taking away from current characters (whether its screen time, plot development, flashbacks etc.) and current unanswered questions that everyone has.

When Desmond, Libby, Eko, AnnaL, all the Others were introduced, I was excited to see thier background, and how they intertwined with the story. I didn't like AnnaL as a character, but was still interested on her back story and how she fit in.

I could care less with Paulo and Nikki. I don't care about them, thier story, or how they tie in with anyone else. The plot has enough room to grow w/o them.

I hate him worse than Ana Lucia - what a jack****. He had no business being that rude to Desmond (although Charlie was a jerk and I'm having trouble with that, and Claire wasn't exactly warm and friendly either). What a wasted character that I don't care about - truly unappealing
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My guess is we're supposed to hate him now, think he's a selfish jerk and then a future flashback will reveal that he's just misunderstood and was hurt by someone in his youth. He really has a heart of gold. Then he'll die.

Someone let TPTB know that we figured it out and they can move on now.


Sawyer fits that bill already, kind of. I already dislike these (Paolo and Nikki) characters because Claire hardly gets any time now. I almost wish they'd kill her off so I wouldn't have to worry about this - if the writers liked her, they'd write for her. She's wasted on this show and serves no purpose (that is, I think she has one, but I don't write for the show so it doesn't matter what I think). Back to the matter at hand - there's no excuse for being a jerk, and Paolo seems mean and overbearing. Not someone I want to spend any time with on the tube

Honestly, I think his introduction has been slightly awkward. They managed to pull it off with Ethan and Arntz, but that's probably because in the first season, we were almost expecting to learn about a new lostie every now and then. So far, I think he's rather boring as he doesn't really do anything, and this is why I think it's been a clumsy intro.


Come on, you guys! Get over it... It'll be the series finale, Paulo will be long dead in the water, and you guys will still be saying how abrupt his introduction was... Seriously...

When I read the title of this thread, I couldn't help but chuckle.

What am I supposed to think about Paulo?

Apparently, I'm supposed to believe that he and Nikki have been just chilling in the background all along, yet suddenly, they're important enough for screen time? Rather pointless screen time so far, that is?

:shrug:

Well, if nothing else...he's very easy on the eyes.

I already dislike these (Paolo and Nikki) characters because Claire hardly gets any time now. I almost wish they'd kill her off so I wouldn't have to worry about this - if the writers liked her, they'd write for her. She's wasted on this show and serves no purpose (that is, I think she has one, but I don't write for the show so it doesn't matter what I think).
I know :frown: It is so sad when you think that even if Claire is killed off, atleast that's one episode of suitable screentime! That was the only thing I liked about Shannon's death (her character was totally wasted, she could have been the female Sawyer, a dangerously beautiful, yet vunerable, villianess or her own issues with infedelity and the other men on the island other then Sayid, etc.) atleast she got decent screentime in Abandoned.
Claire's defenetly has a lot of potential, it's when they introduce all these newbies, and they forget the characters that really gave them the foundation (Claire, Sayid, Shannon, Charlie, etc.) that I start having problems.

I hope they both go meet the eyepatch dude where ever he is help us reveal some answers to the show, then the camera cuts away, we hear screams and blood spraying everywhere. End of characters, deaths on show=everyones happy. And can someone start a petition to kill them both off? If we sign it enough maybe they will be gone. Hopefully for good, no flashbacks, or them stealing boones place as the islands human form! :P

I hate him worse than Ana Lucia - what a jack****. He had no business being that rude to Desmond (although Charlie was a jerk and I'm having trouble with that, and Claire wasn't exactly warm and friendly either). What a wasted character that I don't care about - truly unappealing

Just a quick tangent since you raise it. I think if you put Paulo and C/C's scenes with Desmond together, it reminds you that Desmond is a stranger. He's a newcomer that just showed up three days ago stinking drunk. No one knows him and now he's acting strangely. The reactions of the beachies could have just been normal suspicion until he's integrated into the group. Remember we know Desmond better than these people do.

As for Charlie in particular, he was asserting his position, which would be be normal for any guy to do if some other guy just starting offering to fix his girlfriend's tent. It sounded like a come on without knowing what his real motive was. So Charlie essentially said, she's got a boyfriend, move along brother. I don't think he would've acted that way towards Hurley say or Sayid or someone he knew better and trusted.

The point of that was to further show that when Charlie did put it together and figured out what Desmond had done, he looked pretty freaked.

When Desmond, Libby, Eko, AnnaL, all the Others were introduced, I was excited to see thier background, and how they intertwined with the story.

I could care less with Paulo and Nikki. I don't care about them, thier story, or how they tie in with anyone else. The plot has enough room to grow w/o them.


When I read the title of this thread, I couldn't help but chuckle.

What am I supposed to think about Paulo?

Apparently, I'm supposed to believe that he and Nikki have been just chilling in the background all along, yet suddenly, they're important enough for screen time? Rather pointless screen time so far, that is?


I agree with all of these. They're just unnecessary at this point, and I might have cared if they had introduced them in a less clumsy way. I have enjoyed all the additions to the cast up to this point, but they are going to have to do a lot to get me interested in Nikki and Paulo. At this point, I just don't care about them, and their less than nice behavior in the few scenes we have seen them in rubs me the wrong way. Arzt was annoying, but he was interesting. Not these two. Screen time sucking vampires, give em to Smokey.

:evil1:

I think that Nikki is a character that we need. That brings the quota of girls up to 4; Sun, Claire, Kate and Nikki. I am discounting Juliet because she is an other and so I doubt she will have very much interaction Beach Camp.
The problem is that Paulo has been brought in too, as the second half of the couple. It was uneccessary. Nikki could have paired up with somebody such as Desmond.

Anyway... Paulo was quite funny tonight in a deeply sarcastic sort of way, his comment was a very similar comment to the kind of comment I would make... to someone that I know... now are we to assume that Des and Paulo have met or not?

Other than that, I'll give him a chance...

C'mon everybody, He is a male Shannon. Spoiled, sense of entitlement, not a lot to offer the group, but hey, Shannon won us over and then BANG, killed off in the third act. Everybodys got a story tell.
Love it.

completely unecessary....get him off my screen! don't even think he's as hot as everyone says - and even if he is, the show doesn't need another hottie IMO. And he was rude to Desmond - so I hate him!

Not impressed with Paulo as a character. Best kept as a red shirt.

All I know is that Paulo's crisp and clean Italia polo shirt better start looking dirty and ratty now that the washer/dryer in the hatch has imploded!

Didn't care for him at all, and I agree with the general theme of Paulo's introduction being a bit off.

Most discussions about Paulo that i've seen devolve into some version of 'Well, hes a hottie' or 'OMG hes h0t!' I must say, i dont see it. perhaps because im a guy, although im able to admit Jack is good looking. I watch this show because of substance, not because there are 'hot' people on it, if that is Paulos only saving grace, or a large part of why they casted him, i would be quite happy to see him written off asap. this isnt 'Teh OC', 'Smallville', 'Laguna Beach' Etc.. i want people with real skills on the island more like Benry (THAT is acting) or Locke. No one on a Benry thread goes "Oooo... bruiseface makes me wet in the pants", they go ''WOW that was sooo creepy, i wonder if hes telling the truth, or what hes 'really' up to"

If Paulo is the new Shannon, then I suppose that I will grow to like him. :)

I just don't understand why they keep bringing on all these characters. We are all so attatched to the originals, that I think it is hard (for me at least) to embrace the new ones. Especially when they are introduced so poorly and then killed off...

Yeh i love the actors, ben and the likes pull off their skills really well, paulo is just eye candy with wooden acting. He also looks very gritty and ugly. Thats my opinion, he is just so...blah.

I think the edited scenes have had a negative impact on the introduction of Paolo

Most discussions about Paulo that i've seen devolve into some version of 'Well, hes a hottie' or 'OMG hes h0t!' I must say, i dont see it. perhaps because im a guy, although im able to admit Jack is good looking. I watch this show because of substance, not because there are 'hot' people on it, if that is Paulos only saving grace, or a large part of why they casted him, i would be quite happy to see him written off asap. this isnt 'Teh OC', 'Smallville', 'Laguna Beach' Etc.. i want people with real skills on the island more like Benry (THAT is acting) or Locke. No one on a Benry thread goes "Oooo... bruiseface makes me wet in the pants", they go ''WOW that was sooo creepy, i wonder if hes telling the truth, or what hes 'really' up to"

Indeed. And Ben is THE MAN, don't let anyone say otherwise.

Well there is at least one story line for which I would like to see Paulo flash back. The two Brazilian guys in the snow station that detected the implosion. Seems like too much of a coincidence for Lost. He probably involved in whatever they were working on.

I think it's pretty obvious that Paulo and Nikki are the equivalent of "red shirts" in a Star Trek landing party.

I thought, it is the new Shannon hitting the survivors' fruit into the ocean. I hope they don't get scurvey, but it looks like he could really use the practice.

Maybe he's the one with the tumor on his spine. We don't know anything about him and TPTB obviously have something in mind with his character, since he's gotten almost as much airtime as some of the "stars" this season.

I guess I'm one of the few people that actually liked Paulo. I thought that the little scene with Desmond was well done.. and I liked the fact that he doesn't have a strong personality. This explains why he hasn't been a crucial character in the past two seasons. I think this introduction was fitting, especially since it was a scene with Desmond, somebody who wouldn't have known Paulo before. This way they were still able to make him seem new or unfamiliar. I'm still very skeptical about Nikki though. I wasn't impressed with her introduction last episode.

Also, weren't the guys in the snow station Portugese?

I guess we will see about Paulo... he's alledged to be some sort of private eye, yet all he's done is sit on the beach and play golf????

I guess I'm one of the few people that actually liked Paulo. I thought that the little scene with Desmond was well done.. and I liked the fact that he doesn't have a strong personality. This explains why he hasn't been a crucial character in the past two seasons. I think this introduction was fitting, especially since it was a scene with Desmond, somebody who wouldn't have known Paulo before. This way they were still able to make him seem new or unfamiliar. I'm still very skeptical about Nikki though. I wasn't impressed with her introduction last episode.

I like Paulo too. And I think he'll became of great importance in the future. Now he's clearly one of the people in the Island that think that the whole "let's-play-explorers" thing the main characters do is just plain stupid.

The fact that he's playing golf and, at the same time, just doesn't care about "saving the day in the jungle" shows that he pretty much have accepted his fate: that he'll probably die of boredom in this Island before he dies of old age.

I'd expect him to be a more real human character and not to meet some stereotype, like most TV characters do: Like Jack, the Hero; Sawyer, the Warrior; Kate, the Amazon; Charlie, the Jester; Claire, the Mother; Locke, the Mentor; Eko, the Priest; etc.

I think its great that not all Losties are the RPG character type.



Still, I might be wrong... and Paulo could end up being just a jocker :undecide:

Just a quick tangent since you raise it. I think if you put Paulo and C/C's scenes with Desmond together, it reminds you that Desmond is a stranger. He's a newcomer that just showed up three days ago stinking drunk. No one knows him and now he's acting strangely. The reactions of the beachies could have just been normal suspicion until he's integrated into the group. Remember we know Desmond better than these people do.

As for Charlie in particular, he was asserting his position, which would be be normal for any guy to do if some other guy just starting offering to fix his girlfriend's tent. It sounded like a come on without knowing what his real motive was. So Charlie essentially said, she's got a boyfriend, move along brother. I don't think he would've acted that way towards Hurley say or Sayid or someone he knew better and trusted.

The point of that was to further show that when Charlie did put it together and figured out what Desmond had done, he looked pretty freaked.

Word. We KNOW that Desmond is a good guy but remember the losties don't know what we know about him. He showed up drunk with a sail boat. Desmond tried to tell Claire that her boyfriend left her because he might have been doing what was best for her. Claire was not impressed at the time..and here comes that same guy offering to fix her roof. Ok...I would have been a bit leery as well. Charlie probably remembers kneeling beside a wounded Eko while Desmond shows up and starts rifling through a bunch of books instead of stopping to help. (He was helping but not in a 'normal' way) I would be on guard as well

As far as Paulo or Palieo or whatever his name is.. I am so NOT impressed and I refuse to be blinded by the pretty.

All I know is he's eventually going to run out of golf balls if he keeps whacking them into the ocean.

Reminds me of when Hurley and Libby were dumping food. My friend I was watching it with started yelling "Save your food! Why are they wasting food?"

Hahaha.

He wasn't wasting golf balls, he was wasting food. He was hitting apples into the ocean, which they need now as i assume their food supply got mostly destroyed, as did the hatch so I'm pretty sure a food drop wont occur again.

If they blow up a fun-to-watch guy like Arzt but keep this guy, well...hmm.
Maybe he'll turn out to be interesting, but I'm kind of doubting it. I liked his line, "That way when you die in the jungle doing whatever you're doing I don't have to go looking for it" but didn't like the way he delivered it. He's certainly no Desmond nor Fenry.

He wasn't wasting golf balls, he was wasting food. He was hitting apples into the ocean, which they need now as i assume their food supply got mostly destroyed, as did the hatch so I'm pretty sure a food drop wont occur again.

Ah right you are. Looks like limes. They must have run out of Corona. :lol:

Maybe it's not food... maybe it's some fruit that grows on the island that's poison or doesn't taste good?

I just watched that scene again, yeah, Paulo is a jerk. I'll be happy when he gets shot in the gut or eaten by the polar bear or flung into a tree by the smoke monster. ;)

My guess is we're supposed to hate him now, think he's a selfish jerk and then a future flashback will reveal that he's just misunderstood and was hurt by someone in his youth. He really has a heart of gold. Then he'll die.

Someone let TPTB know that we figured it out and they can move on now.

Lol..

Ok i still hate Paulo and im not liking the fact that

Nikki appears in the promo for next week

Please do us a favour TPTB and get rid of these unecessary additions!

The problem is that Paulo has been brought in too, as the second half of the couple. It was uneccessary. Nikki could have paired up with somebody such as Desmond.

No way!! Only Penny can be paired with Desmond!! :biggrin:

Well there is at least one story line for which I would like to see Paulo flash back. The two Brazilian guys in the snow station that detected the implosion. Seems like too much of a coincidence for Lost. He probably involved in whatever they were working on.

this would be interesting, we do need more info about those guys.

No way!! Only Penny can be paired with Desmond!! :biggrin:

Desmond was only an example, because lets face it - who WOULDN'T want to be paired with Desmond?

Desmond was only an example, because lets face it - who WOULDN'T want to be paired with Desmond?

Oh yes, very true, I was just half-joking hence the big grin after I wrote that sentence. :)

Ah right you are. Looks like limes. They must have run out of Corona. :lol:

Maybe it's not food... maybe it's some fruit that grows on the island that's poison or doesn't taste good?

I just watched that scene again, yeah, Paulo is a jerk. I'll be happy when he gets shot in the gut or eaten by the polar bear or flung into a tree by the smoke monster. ;)

If your hitting oblong fruit it should not matter what club your using,"take the 5 iron, I don't use the 5 iron much, so when you die in the jungle I don't have to go looking for it":mad: Arrogant B***** Like they're his clubs. Those are the same clubs everyone was shareing in the golf tourney...

If TPTB wanted us to hate him then job well done because I can't stand his, lazy, self-centered, unwilling to help anyone or the group for that matter, coward, a**.

Sorry, rant over.

Their introductions both felt more natural than this... I'm trying to figure out why that is, but them seemed to fit with the storyline better I think. It could just have easily been Hurley or Charlie or anyone playing golf.

I think it has more to do with timing than with fitting the storyline.

It's harder (read: less believable) to introduce new characters after three years (real time - 60 days LOST time) than it is after a few weeks.

Before last night's episode I thought that the reason I had a dislike for Paulo was because I'm pretty much biased against adding in any new characters this late in the series but now that we've seen what a jerk he is I'm convinced I really don't like him...

^ I agree, Charlie-Survivor. Last week I completely hated Nikki, and since Paulo was introduced at the same time as she was, I decided that I'd just have to hate him too. But I thought I should at least give him a CHANCE, since he wasn't the one flipping out at Hurley. But after last night, I must say that thus far, Paulo sucks. I mean, he didn't care AT ALL about what happened to Desmond, and he seemed to be fine with Desmond getting hurt or killed. Absolutely no concern for anyone but himself. Actually, he DID seem concerned about Eko, but that was it.

I don't care for either of the new losties. There's still so much we don't know about the losties we already have... I hope they're just fodder for the monster.

I can't believe all the tunnel-visioned hate on this thead. It's ridiculous. I'm actually more excited about this character after reviewing the scene a few times.

He strikes me as irritated with the inner circle characters, and quite frankly, I don't blame him. They're the ones that are self-centered. They huddle together and make decisions without any regard to how it affects their fellow survivors. They go trapsing off into the jungle on little adventures that are resulting in less and less benefit for the group. When Jack, Kate, and Charlie went off to get the radio, what good did it do? Not much, really. Sure, later, they got to listen to a French woman's voice on a loop, but how is that going to help the group? What were the benefits of rushing off to the Black Rock to blow open the hatch at the last minute to hide from the Others? Sure, they got the hatch open, but it didn't solve any immediate problems. So, basically, Arzt got splattered across the landscape for little to no reason. And, other than a few creature comforts and Desmond, what benefit did the hatch bring, anyway? It distracted the leaders from the general needs of the group and led to people turning on each other. Without consulting anyone, they went after Michael, and wound up losing several of their guns. When Michael came back, and they left to "save Walt" the losties ended up losing their doctor. I'm not saying that I disagree with the decisions they made, but I can understand how someone outside the circle could be resentful.

Now, this is how he's starting out, but it would be foolish to assume he'll stay this way. At this point he obviously thinks that all these little adventures the main characters are having are a waste of time and resources, and he doesn't see the point. However, I think that by the sixth episode, he be convinced to take a more active stance in the group.

I've seen a lot of contradictory complaints. Now, it's obvious that their purpose on the show hasn't been revealed, yet. However, we've got people complaining about them being on the show without any immediate significance, thereby, slowly introducing them into the series. At the same time, people are complaining that they've been thrust into the show, instead of being gradually itnroduced to the audience.

Also, Nikki and Paulo are not nearly as nasty as you're all making them out to be. You decided to hate them. So, you're not going to give them a chance, no matter what. But, even though I know you won't listen to me. I have to speak for the voice of reason, here. You're exagerated the animosity of their statements. *sigh* Oh, well, I know I might as well be speaking to a brick wall for all the good this post did, but couldn't not say anything.

p.s. You might as well stop complaining about whether or not their in the previews for the upcoming episodes. They're going to be there. They're not going to remove them from the series just because a bunch of fans don't get the purpose for them being there.

My guess is we're supposed to hate him now, think he's a selfish jerk and then a future flashback will reveal that he's just misunderstood and was hurt by someone in his youth. He really has a heart of gold. Then he'll die.

Someone let TPTB know that we figured it out and they can move on now.

You tell 'em, pacejunkie! :complain: New storyline please!!

Also, weren't the guys in the snow station Portuguese?

I thought it was decided by those that know the language that they were speaking a Brazilian dialect of Portuguese. BTW Portuguese is the national language of Brazil.

We need a flashback and even better a connection to another character other than Nikki. Then maybe we will be prepared to invest a bit more of our time in him. At the moment he has no purpose. Time will tell. :undecide:

He strikes me as irritated with the inner circle characters, and quite frankly, I don't blame him. They're the ones that are self-centered. They huddle together and make decisions without any regard to how it affects their fellow survivors.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, that situation has been used before with the Arntz character. True, more than just Arntz of the "red shirts" probably feel the same way, but unless they find a new way to present this it's really a redundant story line. I do have faith that they'll find a way to make him at least a little interesting, since he's been added to the cast list, but I just don't want a rehashing of the same old story... which we've been seeming to get a lot of lately :rolleyes: *coughJackdaddyissuescough*

I suppose I just feel like they've already had him randomly appear in 2 episodes, doing absolutely nothing and bringing nothing to the episode except his own introduction. I have a feeling the writers could have been a little more clever, and that deleted scene that's been mentioned as well, probably would have been a better way, in my opinion.

Also, Nikki and Paulo are not nearly as nasty as you're all making them out to be. You decided to hate them. So, you're not going to give them a chance, no matter what.To be fair, Paulo was quite a jerk at least in this past episode, but you do bring up an interesting point.

Almost everyone hated Ana Lucia from the get-go, and I never got a clear reason why from hardly anyone, other than, "She just acts so mean/tough/annoying" which is all really subjective. I loved Ana Lucia, but I hate Kate, and plenty of people love her. It's all really a matter of opinion, and more importantly, they're just characters on a television show. We're not going to be hurting their feelings by not liking them, even though poor Ana knew everyone hated her :sob:

In other words, don't worry about the characters people love and hate - we all watch the show for different reasons and are going to have different viewpoints.

Perhaps this has been touched upon earlier in the thread, but IMO, the golf-scene should've been the first scene with Paolo, as oppose to that horrible introduction in the previous episode.

In the scene with Desmond Paolo had a function and ergo a reason to open his mouth. Bashing poor Hurley is no such reason.

Also, questioning a Scotsmans knowledge of golf ought to be against the friggin law.

So, you're not going to give them a chance, no matter what. But, even though I know you won't listen to me. I have to speak for the voice of reason, here. You're exagerated the animosity of their statements. *sigh* Oh, well, I know I might as well be speaking to a brick wall for all the good this post did, but couldn't not say anything.




Not long ago I would have made a similar impassioned post about this very subject. In fact I think I did about Ana Lucia.

I don't HATE anyone but I am irritated that time will be take up by these characters that could go to the regular losties. Hence the title 'screentime sucking vampires'.

In the scene with Desmond Paolo had a function and ergo a reason to open his mouth. Bashing poor Hurley is no such reason.

This is what I'm talking about when I say that they're not as nasty as you think. Paulo has never said anything against Hurley. He's never said anything about him at all. All of his lines in Further Instructions were asking what was going on. Niki's the only one that could be considered offensive to/about Hurley, when she asked when he was planning on telling them that Jack wasn't going to be coming back. Which I think was a very reasonable question, even if it did put Hurley on the spot.

This is what I'm talking about when I say that they're not as nasty as you think. Paulo has never said anything against Hurley. He's never said anything about him at all. All of his lines in Further Instructions were asking what was going on. Niki's the only one that could be considered offensive to/about Hurley, when she asked when he was planning on telling them that Jack wasn't going to be coming back. Which I think was a very reasonable question, even if it did put Hurley on the spot.

Okey, my bad. It's just that, in my mind Nikki and Paolo are pretty much the same character. They have yet to evolve into to seperate entities discernable from one another. It might as well have been Nikki whacking those poor fruits or Paolo telling Hurley off.

Still, I maintain that it was awfully rude of Paolo to look so baffled at the idea of a Scotsman playing golf.

I think paulo is hot, but I too think that he may start taking screen time away from our traditional losties. but that's just me:rolleyes:

I like Paulo a lot.

I really disliked AL for a big part of last season and I have hated Charlie since around the second part of the first season. I think that disliking characters has lessened my enjoyment of the show and interraction on the fan boards. Therefore, I've made a pledge that I will like all new characters that come on the show or at the very least, give them a solid chance. I even like Pickett and Zeke!

Okey, my bad. It's just that, in my mind Nikki and Paolo are pretty much the same character. They have yet to evolve into to seperate entities discernable from one another. It might as well have been Nikki whacking those poor fruits or Paolo telling Hurley off.

Yes, at this point, they are pretty generic. I'm not trying to deny that. All I'm saying is that it's unfair to pass judgement on them before we see what they are really like. If they continue to be so generic, then I probably won't like them very much, but I doubt that they will.

I maintain that it was awfully rude of Paolo to look so baffled at the idea of a Scotsman playing golf.

Scotsmen play golf? ;)

Scotsmen play golf? ;) I loved that scene. Desmond is so sexy and amusing. On topic: Paulo had never seen Desmond play golf before.

I have no problem with Paolo, and I don't think he and Nikki will become Boone2 and Shannon2. I always like seeing them develop new characters. Just look and Sawyer. At first I thought he was a huge jerk. And now....I think he's a slightly more complex jerk.

AnnaL, Eko, Libby were part of the tail section, a different set of people. I thought their story (their crash, what they did to survive) was very well done as was sewn in well with the main story line

The Others, a different set of people, were on the island before the losties arrived. Again an intriguing story that I look foward to knowing more about.

Danielle was a part of a scienctific expidition that went bad and she was the survivor.

All of the above people are new characters that were introduced as Lost progressed. They were all found, discovered, had a run in with etc. and it was done in a believeable way.

Now we have "new" characters in Nikki and Paulo. The problem is that they are not supposed to be "new", they have been here all along building huts, carrying water, but we just didn't know it. They were not found or discovered. It's like they just parachuted in and said "we are here now, give us screen time". This is what I can't stand, the fact that we are supposed to think they have been here all along when they haven't.

BTW have we agreed on a nick name for Paulo yet?

I don't think Paulo and Ana-Lucia are similar. Ana-Lucia was annoying but in a good way. She was doing what she could to keep her people alive. Paulo, however, is just an annoying selfish guy. It seems he doesn't care about anyone.


Now we have "new" characters in Nikki and Paulo. The problem is that they are not supposed to be "new", they have been here all along building huts, carrying water, but we just didn't know it. They were not found or discovered. It's like they just parachuted in and said "we are here now, give us screen time". This is what I can't stand, the fact that we are supposed to think they have been here all along when they haven't.


So, you suggest that TPTB should've singed high-profile actors just to play extras for two years, so we could see them on the background? Those said actors, should've agreed not have screen time until the right time comes? You really think that could happen?
They don't hire extras because they can act. I bet most of them can't. And yet you say that the reason why you can't stand it is because the actors are supposed to be there all along and just they appeared. You really think that promoting extras to regulars is a nice move?
Honestly, I don't. And I have no problem with hiring good actors, well, at least more experienced ones, that we have never seen on the island before instead of extras that we have already seen on the background, and can't act at all.

My first thought was the same, but then i realized, maybe that was intentional.
I think they might be setting Paolo up to be this rich brazilian boy with expensive tastes and not much real life experience besides being self-indulgent, only to change him and how he treats people as show progress.
This sounds likely, but I hope it's not the case. Have we forgotten about Boone and Shannon???

So, you suggest that TPTB should've singed high-profile actors just to play extras for two years, so we could see them on the background? Those said actors, should've agreed not have screen time until the right time comes? You really think that could happen?
They don't hire extras because they can act. I bet most of them can't. And yet you say that the reason why you can't stand it is because the actors are supposed to be there all along and just they appeared. You really think that promoting extras to regulars is a nice move?
Honestly, I don't. And I have no problem with hiring good actors, well, at least more experienced ones, that we have never seen on the island before instead of extras that we have already seen on the background, and can't act at all.

No, I'm suggesting that they should have never appeared in the first place. No Nikki, no Paulo, no actors. But, if we have to get stuck with Nikki and Paulo, I wish that we could have had a least a name drop in previous eppisodes. They can name drop w/o having the actor hired. If Neil would have been brought to the forefront I would have had less of a problem with that. This is the first part of why I don't like them.

The second and main reason is that they are screen sucking vampires.

Now that we had a little more meatier scene with him, what do you guys think? He seemed kinda like a jerk to a certain extent. He didn't really seem to care about anyone...

And the scene with him, even though I know he's around now, still suprised me. It took me a second to even realize who this was and that he's actually a cast member now.

What do you guys think?



I think we have another Sawyer in the making....

I thought it was decided by those that know the language that they were speaking a Brazilian dialect of Portuguese. BTW Portuguese is the national language of Brazil.

No no no....
I'm Brazilian.
They had a portuguese accent (from portugal), and even so, the show should have gotten some natives, because you could feel that even though the accent was portuguese in nature, they were not native speakers.
100%


As for Paulo...

Although, like I've said, I'm Brazilian, I'm not a fan of Rodrigo's...
So I'm not biased when writing this.
I really don't find it that hard to believe that the two were there all along.
There were originally 42 survivors (how many are there now?)
We don't see an hour of their day, much less the 24.
What I think is impossible to believe is that the star losties only have talked and interacted with each other during the last 60 days.

I agree with Buddha, if they are going to give lines, give them to real actors. Extras are not supposed to have lines (not big lines anyway), and very few of them can actually act.

I thhink that if they went through all this trouble, it's for a reason, these characters have a story to tell.

As for sucking screen time, I don't like charlie and claire, so for me they suck up screen time too.
That's not even a real argument, because of course you're going to want your favorite character to show up more than the ones you don't like.

Paulo - What do we think?

Don't know about WE. But I think I could've lived without him. Or Nikki. I'm sure TPTB and the writers and the actors are gonna do all they can to get me to change my mind. And anything is possible, I guess. But I wouldn't be betting on it, if I were you!

They've put in Ben, Juliet, and a gaggle of assorted recurring Others. They've made a regular of Desmond (in my unbiased :10: opinion, the #1 casting move they've made since hiring the original players). Penny's out there in the real world, looking for Desmond. Bernard and Rose are available to show other lostaways. Many recurring backstory players (Christian, Cooper, Yemi, Malkin, et al). It can't cost THAT much to have an extra speak a few lines (they did it with Sceve)!
Even Mr. Eyepatch, starting next week, who is clearly a MAJOR plot mover!

Why the heck did they have to add two new lostaways? It's not like they're lacking in eye candy actors among the regulars, you know. They'll doubtless be given some "important" place in the plot points. Bet it'll look as shoehorned in as I'm suspecting, too! We've more than enough regulars (many woefully underutilized) to carry the story forward. This "fresh faces" argument some use (yes, including Gregg) falls flat: there are many fresh faces this season--none happened to be lostaways, though. Is this a matter of politically correct casting? Give THIS group of characters new blood, to achieve a "balance" of newbies at beach camp?

This really is ridiculous. It's like they're throwing in as many ingredients as possible into the stew pot, in the hopes that everyone will like something about the stew! Likelier, they'll make the stew unpalatable to most. That does seem to be what's happening, if fan input at the various forums are indictative of viewership as a whole!

I'll be watching to see what they do with Paulo and Nikki in the remainder of the season. But I suspect that we could've lived without ANY of it!

I think the way Paolo and Niki have been introduced has kind of sucked because both characters have a bad attitude. But I second what has been said before, I think its more of Arntz attitude coming out. These two are supposedly annoyed that they weren't in 'the club' and now we're going to see what its like when a new person is brought into 'the club'.

That being said...stop being so mean to Hurley and Desmond!!!

So far, Paulo doesn't excite me. Much rather see another male/female couple introduced. Then again, we get so little island time what with the flashbacks, I don't want to spend time with any more characters... Unless they manage to get Jensen ackles on the show... Then I might be excited..

Last week he had very nondescript lines, but this week he's as obnoxious as Nikki. Oh good, I get to hate them both.

Perhaps his ill temper comes from having to wear a Milano jersey. No Brazilian in his right mind would suffer the indignity of not being able to wear the national colors (with all deep affection for Brazilian pride, because you've earned it. :) ) Unlss they're being paid millions to play for the European team. I can't figure out what team if any that's a jersey for; it says "Milano" on it but it doesn't seem to be the official colors for Inter or AC Milan.

In a way, I was looking forward to these new characters. I had heard of Mitchell and Santoro and liked their previous work. I was open to the idea of new characters being pulled from the background.

But immediately, it's clear that the execution is horrible. I am in full agreement with so many of the posts here. We don't need another "jerk with a secret heart of gold."

I really am at a loss here, regarding what the writers are attempting to accomplish. The terrible introduction notwithstanding, this second Paulo scene felt empty, irritating, and completely unnecessary. I really hope these characters start to gel with the regulars SOONER rather than later. We do not need another Ana Lucia/Libby situation. Is this all for flashback fodder? Could we not perhaps try to flesh out Hurley's character? Maybe give Claire some kind of non-baby-related storyline? Wouldn't those be interesting challenges?

I think the way Paolo and Niki have been introduced has kind of sucked because both characters have a bad attitude. But I second what has been said before, I think its more of Arntz attitude coming out. These two are supposedly annoyed that they weren't in 'the club' and now we're going to see what its like when a new person is brought into 'the club'.

What's ironic is that Arzt had a bad attitude too, but Daniel Roebuck is such a funny character actor that he pulled him off. Arzt was hysterical, and he gave Hurley a hard time too, but you just couldn't hate him. And he called Sawyer a hillbilly. :biggrin:

I think we have another Sawyer in the making....


Just what we needed...another Sawyer. :rolleyes:

Kidding! I'm just kidding! :D

As for sucking screen time, I don't like charlie and claire, so for me they suck up screen time too.
That's not even a real argument, because of course you're going to want your favorite character to show up more than the ones you don't like.
I don't like Charlie either, however he is an orginal cast member that falls within the orginal storyline of the show - he has always been one of "core group". Nikki and Paulo are add in's that I don't need.


Paulo - What do we think?

Don't know about WE. But I think I could've lived without him. Or Nikki. I'm sure TPTB and the writers and the actors are gonna do all they can to get me to change my mind. And anything is possible, I guess. But I wouldn't be betting on it, if I were you!

They've put in Ben, Juliet, and a gaggle of assorted recurring Others. They've made a regular of Desmond (in my unbiased :10: opinion, the #1 casting move they've made since hiring the original players). Penny's out there in the real world, looking for Desmond. Bernard and Rose are available to show other lostaways. Many recurring backstory players (Christian, Cooper, Yemi, Malkin, et al). It can't cost THAT much to have an extra speak a few lines (they did it with Sceve)!
Even Mr. Eyepatch, starting next week, who is clearly a MAJOR plot mover!

Why the heck did they have to add two new lostaways? It's not like they're lacking in eye candy actors among the regulars, you know. They'll doubtless be given some "important" place in the plot points. Bet it'll look as shoehorned in as I'm suspecting, too! We've more than enough regulars (many woefully underutilized) to carry the story forward. This "fresh faces" argument some use (yes, including Gregg) falls flat: there are many fresh faces this season--none happened to be lostaways, though. Is this a matter of politically correct casting? Give THIS group of characters new blood, to achieve a "balance" of newbies at beach camp?

This really is ridiculous. It's like they're throwing in as many ingredients as possible into the stew pot, in the hopes that everyone will like something about the stew! Likelier, they'll make the stew unpalatable to most. That does seem to be what's happening, if fan input at the various forums are indictative of viewership as a whole!

I'll be watching to see what they do with Paulo and Nikki in the remainder of the season. But I suspect that we could've lived without ANY of it!

Amen

I'm not sure why they intro'd a new hottie but he is very cute and I look forward to seeing him more.

Sawyer could sail away into the sunset for all I care BUT I realize he is important to the overall story arc and because of that I honestly DO tolerate him and accept him as part of the core group. (Yes..I pick on him from time to time but its not 'hate') I would not even want Paulio and Nicoli to take screen time away from him.

Since the first Paulo thread is now fourteen pages long, I don't have the patience to rifle through the whole thing to hear everyone's take. However, rather than continue it here, I just want to say that I feel like that scene was meant to be more than just an intro. I remember in S1 when they showed Jin drinking the bottled water while building the raft, I remember thinking, "man that was arbitrary" and sure enough, it led to another incident. Just showing this guy hit golf fruit and having irrelevant banter with Des doesn't sound like Lost m.o. I noticed his shirt (which they graciously gave a clear shot to) seemed to represent Italy. Is there some connection to Italy which I can't remember?

Just my thoughts.

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I really didn't care much for the short encounter Paulo had with Des. Overall, I didn't like him much. I'd say that since regular cast members are known to die, they will from time to time need to introduce new blood (he, he).

I didn't like his attitude at all nor was I supposed to. I don't think he is another Sawyer or another Ana-Lucia. He reminds me of Shannon in the beginning, spoiled and useless. Hopefully, he will be redeemed like Shannon but it seems to me from his few seconds on screen his purpose will be to create divisiveness in the Fusies' camp. I hope I'm wrong. How much more difficult a lack of unity will make it to confront the Others!

I don't have a problem that he and his girlfriend seemed to appear out of nowhere or even that they are remarkably rude. There have been books published about other survivors over the past few months and I don't have a problem with them either. All of the survivors must have some kind of story and certainly their own personalities. My problem is that their introduction adds complexity to a plot that is already too complex.

Just from reading the threads for this latest episode, "Every Man For Himself", I see that long time viewers are scratching their heads wondering what is going on. I can't imagine what it would be like to be a new viewer trying to catch up. I have talked to people who aren't watching anymore. So if we are losing old viewers and not getting new ones, where does that leave "Lost"? I don't think two new people on the beach will bring new viewers in, even if they are hot. So I hope they are used to clarify the plot, and soon. Otherwise, I hope they go back into the tent from whence they came and stay there.

What's ironic is that Arzt had a bad attitude too, but Daniel Roebuck is such a funny character actor that he pulled him off. Arzt was hysterical, and he gave Hurley a hard time too, but you just couldn't hate him. And he called Sawyer a hillbilly. :biggrin:

Arzt was great, so whiney and colorful; like an Island George Costanza:biggrin:.

God, I wish they could somehow bring him back. I never really understood why they introduced this extremely likable character only to have him whacked in a couple of episodes. Perhaps TPTB had some great plans for him, plotwise, but then realized a bit too late it wasn't going to work out and killed him off.

As for Nikki and Paolo, I'm sure TPTB's got some great plans for them. Maybe one of them will succumb to evil and side with Benry's merry band. Paolo seems just the kind of guy who wouldn't hesitate screwing the Losties over for a hot meal and a boat-ride back to civilization.

I personally believe that the main advantage of bringing in these two new castaways is that people will be asking, "where have they been this whole time?" Now, the best way to answer that is through flashbacks that take place on the island during the events of Seasons 1 & 2. Such flashbacks would be a perfect way to get dead characters back on the show, especially those who wouldn't naturally show up in other people's off-island flashbacks.

I personally believe that the main advantage of bringing in these two new castaways is that people will be asking, "where have they been this whole time?" Now, the best way to answer that is through flashbacks that take place on the island during the events of Seasons 1 & 2. Such flashbacks would be a perfect way to get dead characters back on the show, especially those who wouldn't naturally show up in other people's off-island flashbacks.
I hadn't thought of that way before... It would be so cool see Shannon whinning on the beach again!! :biggrin:

TPTB did say that Maggie Grace would be back this season...

Nice twist with the flashbacks. Yeah, if they use them to show us what we didnt see in season 1&2 they would become great characters. Because so far, I'm not impressed at all. I even asked Gregg Nations and this is what he had to say...

Why bring in new Lostees in S3? (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=61330)

If they can use them to advance the show it will be cool. Take Artz for ezample. Good for an eppy, but as a regular....Hmmmmm. That's my 0.02$

Namaste, Eric.

I miss Libby.

I think it's too soon to form an opinion on Paulo, because he has only been given several lines. We saw him playing golf and being snarky to Desmond, but other than that, we know absolutely nothing about him. He didn't get a proper introduction and I hope the writers give him some meaty material, otherwise, this will be another waste of a character.

I saw this in another forum. I thought they were funny so I'll pass them along. Maybe we can come up with some.

Future Palo and Nikki Episodes:

All the Best Cowboys have Hair Issues
Hit the Road You Two
Live Together, Die Paulo

As much as I think he is extraneous fluff right now (as is Nikki), I'm sure Paolo will get his moment. Remember when Desmond came into the picture-- he could have been expendable-- and look at the gold Ian fleshed out with his character, even getting the only acting Emmy nod to prove it. I am not comparing the two actors, as so far this Paolo dude lacks the "WOW" factor the classy Ian has; however, he may end up getting a really meaty story line and a dramatic exit, a la Ana Lu. I'm willing to wait and see.

BTW...Could we start calling Nikki and Paolo "Pikki?" Just a thought...:rolleyes:

I saw this in another forum. I thought they were funny so I'll pass them along. Maybe we can come up with some.

Future Palo and Nikki Episodes:

All the Best Cowboys have Hair Issues
Hit the Road You Two
Live Together, Die Paulo

:rotflmao2: :rotflmao2: I can't wait!

Paulo - What do we think?

I think he's a waste of space, and that we already have Sayid, Sun, Jin, Claire, Hurley, and a couple of other characters that need the screen time a whole lot more than he does.

If we ever get a Paulo flashback, we will not see him as a professional golfer. I can guarantee you that:)

I did not miss the fact that Tom used South American bolas to capture Michael in "3 Minutes". He and Paulo just might have a past connection.

Thanks Billy Shears!

Just gave me an idea for an upcoming Nikki episode:

I've only been here 3 Minutes.

Let's see... he has this amazing skill of ______________ but he never used it up to this point because he feels left out, no one shares anything with him or the other Losties, and all of a sudden he'll appear to save the day.

In the most recent podcast, Damon and Carlton revealed that Paulo and Nikki will be used to show what everyone else was doing during seasons 1 & 2.

There I added spoiler font.

That should be spoiler-fonted, Joser!

If true, though,
I hope that's the main reason they were put on the show in the first place, and once that eppy airs, they will GO AWAY!

That should be spoiler-fonted, Joser!

If true, though,
I hope that's the main reason they were put on the show in the first place, and once that eppy airs, they will GO AWAY!

If by "GO AWAY" you mean die, then yes, I agree!

There's not enough room in my heart to care for the 2 new-losties... 'nosties'.

I miss Shannon/Boone/Libby.

What drives me craziest is that, in order to make room for these two pieces of eye candy, they have essentially written out Bernard and Rose, two SOLID characters who provide far more of a perspective on what's going on with the "other" lostaways than these two youngsters EVER could!

Why, why, why do TPTB never see the obvious? :wallbash:

Let's see... he has this amazing skill of ______________ but he never used it up to this point because he feels left out, no one shares anything with him or the other Losties, and all of a sudden he'll appear to save the day.

I don't think he will save the day. He did imply to Desmond he doesn't care about anyone dying..

What drives me craziest is that, in order to make room for these two pieces of eye candy, they have essentially written out Bernard and Rose, two SOLID characters who provide far more of a perspective on what's going on with the "other" lostaways than these two youngsters EVER could!

Why, why, why do TPTB never see the obvious? :wallbash:

Thank you! Where the heck are Rose and Bernard? Off doing it in some tent together...oh wait that was Paulo and Nikki! I miss Rose, she was the heart of so many stories and her relationship with Bernard was heartbreaking and lovely last season. Bring them back!

There sure is an awful lot of discussion about a character who has had all of 3 lines, maybe 4? Im spending my time on something more useful, like how to reincarnate Boone and Shannon....

It seems that with every other character there was a reason for them existing e.g. The others, Anna Lucia and the B team and Desmond. All these characters contributed to the plot in some way when they were introduced and Paulo just doesn't seem to do that. It's early days but It would be shame if they killed off a regular character to make way for this guy.

The only thing I could think last night every single time Paulo & Nikki were on screen was DIE DIE DIE!! They are seriously both making me insane.

I saw this in another forum. I thought they were funny so I'll pass them along. Maybe we can come up with some.

Future Palo and Nikki Episodes:

All the Best Cowboys have Hair Issues
Hit the Road You Two
Live Together, Die Paulo

ROTFL
Classic