So now it is fruit salad and golf on the beach. What exactly would it take for the Losties to develop a sense of urgency and purpose? Do they believe the message that the Others will leave them alone if they don't cross the line? Wouldn't they want to protect themselves from dart guns? Wouldn't they want to send another party out to meet up with Sayid or find J/K/S? Locke could regain his sense of manhood all over again by going out to track them. Charlie could prove himself useful. Even if the tracks end at the Pala Ferry dock, that's a start.

Good thing Sawyer moved the guns to the beach from the hatch. Even if nothing is left, maybe they could try to find Danielle and learn how to create defenses from her.

I really don't get it. It all seems to be done for plot purposes, but a plot this illogical is beginning to throw me.

Well, let's look at who's left on the beach:

Claire
It's not easy looking like you have a team of make-up, hair and wardrobe people following you around making you look glamourous you know! Since we hardly ever see her, I just presume she spends all the time she isn't complaining to Charlie or cooing over Aaron touching up her make-up. She's busy with that.

Charlie
Charlie's main quest is getting into Claire's perfectly laundered pants. He spends the rest of the time making snarky comments. Busy busy busy!

Paulo and Nikki
Since we haven't seen them before last week, I'm presuming that Paulo and Nikki are both cripplingly shy. They're overcompensating now that most of the cool kids are away from camp, but still... baby steps.

Desmond
He's busy filling out an application for the vacant Divination teacher job at Hogwarts, brother!

Hurley
Dude... he made FRUIT SALAD. What more do you want from him? Libby died, like, five minutes ago or something. Plus, if he went off on any quests, he'd insist on carrying a heap of blankets with him "just in case". Those things are bulky. It'd be bad, trust me.

Rose and Bernard
They haven't shown this yet, but Paulo and Nikki murdered them to get their screentime. Very sad.

That just leaves Locke and Eko... Eko was blown up and then nearly eaten by a polar bear. He needs some R&R. Locke's the only one available to give it to him.

Hope that helps!

:roflmao:

Thank you, Tiny Time Machine!

I know we shouldn't expect much logic from all this. Rose *must* have been murdered; she of all the Losties would be doing something practical about now. :)

Yeah, I agree. When we first got back to the Lostie camp, people were smiling and relaxed. I was like, anyone curious about all the metal flying out of your hands? The sky turning purple? What must have been an ear shattering explosion when the hatch blew up? But they were going on like nothing had happened.

Remember the first episode of the season, where everyone had taken stupid pills? It felt like that again.

Don

Well, let's look at who's left on the beach:

Rose and Bernard
They haven't shown this yet, but Paulo and Nikki murdered them to get their screentime. Very sad.

ROTFL!!! However, this is just about true as TPTB need to make room for these two newbies

Most of the beachies are so STUPID!:drowsy:

Where's the panic? Where's the air raid alarms?!

I'm still trying to get a handle on how much time has passed since the implosion of the hatch and the sky turning purple - it really throws me off to see two separate story lines at once. I mean, for the Others, it had been "two days" since the "sky turned purple" - are we running with the same line of reasoning for the beachfolk? How long was Locke gone before he returned for his sweat-lodging? How long did it take to retrieve Eko?

I figure, if these things happened quickly enough, maybe they didn't even realize J,K, & S were "missing," per se - after all, Hurley JUST got back.

Option B - nobody's mentioned the "purple haze" - maybe the failsafe scrambled their brains/memories and made them even dumber.

i am soo mad at the beach losties. what's up with charlie not even talking about what happened? has everyone lost their minds? charlie, ecko, locke, and desmond went through some heavy stuff and they can't even bring it up!!!??? it's frustrating and i hope the writers do something about it soon because there's only a few episodes left until the hiatus.:confused:

Yeah the beach losties were rather calm last epi, I guess Paulo and nikki seems a bit panicked when they were introduced, but that's about it.


Hurley
Dude... he made FRUIT SALAD. What more do you want from him? Libby died, like, five minutes ago or something. Plus, if he went off on any quests, he'd insist on carrying a heap of blankets with him "just in case". Those things are bulky. It'd be bad, trust me.



This is a true about Libby, I remember TPTB saying they wished they have shown Hurley grief more in LTDA, when he found out Michael had killed Libby. However, now Hurley is happy go lucky without showing any reaction or thought about Libby.

This is a true about Libby, I remember TPTB saying they wished they have shown Hurley grief more in LTDA, when he found out Michael had killed Libby. However, now Hurley is happy go lucky without showing any reaction or thought about Libby.

To be fair, they only knew each other for what, a couple weeks? He liked her, but I doubt he had fallen in love with her. They had like, one date, one kiss.... I'm not saying he didn't feel for her, or that he wasn't upset when she was killed, but it's not like it would be if Rose or Bernard died, you know?

To be fair, they only knew each other for what, a couple weeks? He liked her, but I doubt he had fallen in love with her. They had like, one date, one kiss.... I'm not saying he didn't feel for her, or that he wasn't upset when she was killed, but it's not like it would be if Rose or Bernard died, you know?

That's true, I guess I just picture hurley as someone who would get more attached to Libby in this situation, then the average person would. But that's just my opinion.

Desmond
He's busy filling out an application for the vacant Divination teacher job at Hogwarts, brother!

Nice! :biggrin:

Ah, yes. Mr. Eko was blown up by the almighty implosion. How could we forget?

Thanks for starting this thread. Except for Charlie's lines about John never writing, never calling and oh by the way, blowing up the Hatch, there seems to be a distinct lack of urgency.

One of the things that's always bugged me about the show is that the main characters exist in a bubble. Except for Bernard getting people to help him build the SOS, Kate telling people to hold on while she asks Jack about Desmond, Jack's "We'll make it through the night together, well, OK, until Kate, John and I run off to the Hatch, that is" speech, we never see them interact with the background people. As two characters are walking, why can't one of them say "Hey, Susan, how's the hut coming along" or something, to acknowledge that there's 35+ other Lostaways?

On the other hand, considering the Lostaways track record of running in to the jungle chasing after things, maybe this "What, me worry?" attitude is for the best. :)

Eko is out of it and Locke is the only one who seems to have been redirected by the whole purple-sky-magnet-goes-boom thing. Very strange, maybe there really is a purpose to this. I can't see them (the writers that is) totally ignoring what happened without some reason. Maybe the fruit they're eating is druging them to be complacent about everything.

Also, we assume that the Losties are all one, united group. What if the background folks are in the background because they just don't give a damn? Maybe they're still on Survivor, just worried about making it thru, and saying to each other, "Yeah, the doctor, the fugitive, and the con man went off again somewhere and haven't returned. They refused to share that "hatch" thingie with us, and then the sky went purple. Once again, they probably touched something they weren't supposed to...."

These are the folks that probably see Jin & Sun's marital issues as island gossip, the main characters as a clique, and Eko as the religious nut. They have no idea what's been found in the hatches, who the Others really are, or where Desmond came from... I'm telling you, it's probably all People magazine out there for them.

I think it would add to the show if the beachies were *tense*. They have plenty of reason to be.

Even the most distracted beachie knows that the raft was blown up, that Walt was kidnapped (and do they even know that Michael and kid got a motorboat?), that the sky when purple and the hatch blew in.

Prior to that, 10+ were kidnapped in A-L's group, two women were shot by an Other (that's what they must think, that it was Benry), Claire was kidnapped, the sounds in the jungle, the polar bears...

They should know that their own lives are at risk. Who are those Others, what do they want with us? Have they killed K-S-J? Aren't they worried that their only doctor disappeared?

Tension among the beachies would enforce the idea of us against them. HOW can they be so calm! Chances are they'd be planning to build a fortress of some kind, start arranging sentries, practicing self-defense skills... it's their own survival at stake! It's unrealistic that attitude of *I couldn't care less*.

I think it would add to the show if the beachies were *tense*. They have plenty of reason to be.

Even the most distracted beachie knows that the raft was blown up, that Walt was kidnapped (and do they even know that Michael and kid got a motorboat?), that the sky when purple and the hatch blew in.

Prior to that, 10+ were kidnapped in A-L's group, two women were shot by an Other (that's what they must think, that it was Benry), Claire was kidnapped, the sounds in the jungle, the polar bears...

They should know that their own lives are at risk. Who are those Others, what do they want with us? Have they killed K-S-J? Aren't they worried that their only doctor disappeared?

Tension among the beachies would enforce the idea of us against them. HOW can they be so calm! Chances are they'd be planning to build a fortress of some kind, start arranging sentries, practicing self-defense skills... it's their own survival at stake! It's unrealistic that attitude of *I couldn't care less*.

Darn. And I thought I had it all figured out. ;-)

I'm really hoping that there will be an explanation as to why they're acting this way. Like the hatch implosion wiped their brains of the last few days of info or something. Now, it is true that they didn't know about Jack et al being captured, but finding out didn't seem to make them band together or anything. Don't even get me started about Nikki and Paulo. If they weren't deposited there by the others or something (like Ethan) I'm going to have a real problem with them. It seems really lame that they would suddenly show up having not factored in any previous seasons. Not to mention Paulo is kind of an a-hole (like over the whole five iron thing).

I agree with what everyone on this thread has said. I guess I've grown use to the attitude of the other Lostees though. The previous two seasons were the same way.

If I were on the island I couldn't sleep at night for fear of polar bears, creatures moving trees, children and people stealing others, etc. I'm not a leader so I would be up under Jack and Locke asking "Shouldn't we be doing something to protect ourselves? What can I do to help?" But that's just me.

thinking about it a bit more, I'm guessing that the writers are using the beach as a way
to lower the stress and tension in the show and provide cominc relief. We have intense scenes of Saywer behind stabbed in the heart, being beatn up by pickett and Ben, as well as Colleen dying, it would be a lot to then see the Losties on the beach freaking out as well, especially because this wasn't a series finale or cliffhanger sort of situation. I dunno

I wouldn't call Hurley happy-go-lucky. He's been thru too much. Most of the funny moments they've written for him this season are reaction scenes--he hears noises in the bush, thinks it's a polar bear. It's a nekkid Desmond. Er. . . .

Really, that's about it. We saw him relay The Others' message (the writers ROBBED Jorge here; that should've been a dynamic, shocking scene, instead, it was a throwaway scene that set up Locke's speech). We saw him make fruit salad--hardly a funny moment.

We aren't gonna see a lot of happy-go-lucky Hurley this season. I trust the writers at least THAT much. But he'll still be the dude they bounce amusing reactions to things off of. He's the writers' go-to character for that. (And I must say, Jorge's a terribly good sport for letting them get away with it.)

The Rose-Bernard explanation is only half-funny. I really DO think they've shoved aside these wonderful recurring characters to give the two new pieces of eye candy room. BIG mistake!

Claire
It's not easy looking like you have a team of make-up, hair and wardrobe people following you around making you look glamourous you know! Since we hardly ever see her, I just presume she spends all the time she isn't complaining to Charlie or cooing over Aaron touching up her make-up. She's busy with that.
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TTM, this was the best one you posted! PERFECT!

And let's not forget Stephen. Someone came in the middle of the night and bludgeoned him to death.

Someone dragged Sun as she was alone in her garden (we know it was Charlie, but they don't).

Speaking of Charlie, he was hanged to a tree.

The beachies know there are people out there willing to kill or kidnap them for no reason they know of.

Seriously, there should be systems of looking after each other. Sentries. Whistles. Rules about not leaving alone after night. Pre-planned paths, that is, "roadmaps" to the most used parts of the island. Even code words to signal danger. Geez, smoke signals!! They have every reason to be nearly paranoid. I know I would.

It's also only been like seventy days since the crash, most of these tragic events have happened only days or weeks apart. Ana Lucia and Libby were murdered like a week ago in their time. There seems to be an episode for every 1.5s day that they've been there. Which means something freaky happens every other day at least. I think they'd be worried about what was going to happen tomorrow.

That said, I do agree that they need to cut the tension from the Hydra scenes, I just hope they explain their complacency.

:clapping:, ireneadler!!

And I must once more add that "comic relief" has NO PLACE in the current story lines. Sorry. As for tension-relief, I got more of that from the James/Kate "strawberries/fishbiscuits" scene than from ANYTHING they've shown on the beach or in the nearby jungle! (Did enjoy Desmond defusing Paulo's snarkiness, though!)

I wouldn't say that the Beachies are complacent, or don't care as much as they are NUMB. I mean, c'mon, something DOES happen to them very episode. I would take the "NOW what?!" attitude too. Of course, maybe there is something in that fruit salad after all...