I am disappointed that Mr. Ecko was killed off this show. He was by far one of the most interesting characters on the show.

I also am confused because in Season 2 DVD set when you watch 23 Palsm with commentary, they made a point to say that if you do not run from the damn smoke that it would not harm you. So why kill Mr. Ecko.

I also am disappointed with the direction of this light and dark theme again. I am do not agree that with how they are trying to cast Locke as the light. This man had caused so much chaos on this island indirectly caused peoples death (Boone, Ana Lucia and Libby) that I cannot see how he can be the light.

I also do not see the connection with Boone telling him to clean up his messes the whole airport scene which did not show Mr. Ecko in it.

Mr. Ecko saved the life of Sawyer by carrying back to the original losties. He was the voice of reason for them not gunning down Ana Lucia when they first arrived. He helped pull the dead people out of the water. He baptized Claire and Aaron. He told Locke he had to push the botton.

I thought the same thing that Ecko said, why should he confess. He saved his brothers life so that he could become a priest. He did not choose this direction. He was a comfort to the Tallies, Claire, Charlie and Aaron.

Do we really know what Locke's intentions are by going after Sawyer, Jack and Kate? When he was suppose to be looking for Claire and found the hatch, he indirectly caused the death of Boone? His response was this was a sacrfice the Island demanded. When he went to the Black Rock he agreed to bring the dynomite out and Artz got killed. He blew up the hatch when Hurley said the numbers were bad because he wanted to get down there so damn bad because "it was his destiny" only to have the destroy it and tell Ecko he was sorry he didn't believe him. He also showed Michael how to shoot a gun and this action caused Michael to run off to find his son and come back and kill Libby and Ana-Lucia.

I think that the only descent thing that he has ever done was keep the herion so that Libby would have it so she would not be in so much pain when she died.

Lockes intentions are never for the betterment of anyone but himself.

What do you think?

Lockes intentions are never for the betterment of anyone but himself.

What do you think?

I completely, and wholeheartldy, disagree. I think Locke is a brilliant character, and the only time I was disappointed in his character was last season when he lost his faith. But Locke is not an evil or neglectful character. He didn't kill anyone on purpose, with his bare hands. And in a sense, you can connect anyone on that island to some sort of death, murder, or horrible circumstance. So the theory that he just causes choas is not really relevant, since they ALL create some sort of choas (I mean, charley stealing the baby? Michael killing in order to get his way? You can argue Michael was out for his own purposes, if anything. Plus what about sawyer and the hoarding of the goods? We are starting to see he isn't the selfish jerk we thought he was...)

And I did interpret Locke in another thread, which I will quote here:

At first, Locke seemed like this strong, tough and take charge type of guy. I loved Locke in this "mode," and he seemed to bask in the abilities that the island gave him. It was like him getting a second chance at life, and who wouldn't jump at that?

Then we learned more of his past, of his rattled faith, of abandonment, betrayal and almost gulliable tendancies. I think it damaged his character in a way....I wanted to believe in Locke! I liked him being mysterious, and knowledgeable and unbreakable. But then there was this new side that made him out to be....very childlike? People seem to "use" him all of the time, and for all of the wrong reasons. I think he wants to be needed and feel usefull, but not to be discarded away afterwards. (which explains why he joined the commune?) But the one thing about locke is no matter what happens, who hurts him or what mistakes he may make, he always has the strength to get back up and try again? (maybe parallel to him being paralyzed in the plane, yet being able to walk on the island?)

I think his intentions are good, but sometimes his actions cause reactions he doesn't expect or want.


And Eko dying and Locke's revival don't really have anything to do with each other--I mean I don't think locke caused that. And the reference to the dark and the light? I think that is how smokey views them, and we all know smokey is one confusing monster, so we can't really take anything solid from that.

If you don't understand the airport scene, I suggest you go to that forum and read a few threads on it--it might patch a few things up for you.

Plus, blaming AL and Libby's death on him is goofy. Pointing a gun and shooting at almost point blank range is not hard at all. He was a determined father--he was gonna kill, maim, lie and do whatever to get back his son, locke or no locke.

I can understand your frustration...but think about it a bit more.

Im only dissapointed in the fact that Eko was a great character and now hes gone and some dumb annoying couple is being added.

Im only dissapointed in the fact that Eko was a great character and now hes gone and some dumb annoying couple is being added.

Oh word....everytime that blonde chick spoke last night, it caused me physical pain.

When Eko died, and the showed her being all sad, I was like "You stay out of this blondie!!"

But I think I am biased. I am trying to keep an open mind, but I can't help my initial gut reaction when I see them (which is to hurl :P)

At any rate, I am very upset that Eko is dead. I think he was a strong character on the show.

But this thread is really about Locke, and I am digressing.

Yeah, can anyone help me out with the new girl's name? I'm not too sure what to think of her yet....

Her name is Nikki...

And let's make sure we keep on the thread's topic...thanks.:)

Is Locke going to have a different job in every flashback?

I thought the same thing that Ecko said, why should he confess. He saved his brothers life so that he could become a priest. He did not choose this direction.

So the end justifies the means. What is the life of one person worth as long as my brother can become a priest. We all have a choice with every action we take. He decided to pick up the gun. He could at least confess. Otherwise, the church he was trying to build and his stick with scriptures and his life as a priest are all meaningless in the eyes of God.

I also do not see the connection with Boone telling him to clean up his messes the whole airport scene which did not show Mr. Ecko in it.



It was because of Locke's lack of faith that the hatch blew up. He destroyed the computer, which caused Des to have to activate the failsafe. All of that endangered Eko and it was because of Locke's actions that Eko was injured and taken by the bear.

So, Locke had to risk his life to save Eko to "clean up his mess".

I am disappointed that Mr. Ecko was killed off this show. He was by far one of the most interesting characters on the show.

I also am confused because in Season 2 DVD set when you watch 23 Palsm with commentary, they made a point to say that if you do not run from the damn smoke that it would not harm you. So why kill Mr. Ecko.

I also am disappointed with the direction of this light and dark theme again. I am do not agree that with how they are trying to cast Locke as the light. This man had caused so much chaos on this island indirectly caused peoples death (Boone, Ana Lucia and Libby) that I cannot see how he can be the light.

I also do not see the connection with Boone telling him to clean up his messes the whole airport scene which did not show Mr. Ecko in it.

Mr. Ecko saved the life of Sawyer by carrying back to the original losties. He was the voice of reason for them not gunning down Ana Lucia when they first arrived. He helped pull the dead people out of the water. He baptized Claire and Aaron. He told Locke he had to push the botton.

I thought the same thing that Ecko said, why should he confess. He saved his brothers life so that he could become a priest. He did not choose this direction. He was a comfort to the Tallies, Claire, Charlie and Aaron.

Do we really know what Locke's intentions are by going after Sawyer, Jack and Kate? When he was suppose to be looking for Claire and found the hatch, he indirectly caused the death of Boone? His response was this was a sacrfice the Island demanded. When he went to the Black Rock he agreed to bring the dynomite out and Artz got killed. He blew up the hatch when Hurley said the numbers were bad because he wanted to get down there so damn bad because "it was his destiny" only to have the destroy it and tell Ecko he was sorry he didn't believe him. He also showed Michael how to shoot a gun and this action caused Michael to run off to find his son and come back and kill Libby and Ana-Lucia.

I think that the only descent thing that he has ever done was keep the herion so that Libby would have it so she would not be in so much pain when she died.

Lockes intentions are never for the betterment of anyone but himself.

What do you think?
Hey, I'm very disappointed to lose Eko, too.:frown:

Do you know that Adewale AA wanted to leave the show, and went to the producers to work it out? They were planning on keeping the character longer, but honored his request. Also, Adewale lost both his parents in the last year, and was interviewed saying that it was hard to work in Hawaii, so far from family and friends.

So TPTB didn't have much of a choice.

Now Eko leaving the story is a different matter. I'm not really pleased with how it was done. I think there are still some loose ends in his backstory, and even in his Island story. But who am I to say? The writers told his story...they created him.

I don't understand what loose ends were left with Eko. They explained pretty much everything.

I don't understand what loose ends were left with Eko. They explained pretty much everything.
We don't know whether he went to London as planned, and what happened there.

There was a woman in the Smokey images in The 23rd Psalm that we didn't see again, and she looked pregnant. There was another woman, too. When Eko said "worse" when Jin asked if he was married, too, I thought that might mean that he had been married and had children, and lost them, perhaps in a gang raid.

Also, we don't know anything about his parents, and most of the Losties have daddy issues. And some of their mothers were sick in some way.

And we still don't know how the Beechcraft, with his brother in it, ended up on the same island that Eko crashed onto. With Eko and Yemi (and the pilot and Gold Tooth) all gone, how will we find out?

It just seems like some pieces of his life will never be known.

It just seems like some pieces of his life will never be known.


I think what is important to understand is that they had very limited time to tie up his story, and really didn't have a lot of choice in the matter either. And perhaps we will find out more in future episodes as well....for now, we just have to accept what happened.

Sometimes things in life are unexplainable...not everything is wrapped in a neat little package for us to consume. Life is full of ragged edges, unexplained happenings and mysterious pasts.

It's funny how we accept real life for lal of it's inconsistencies, but fiction has to make sense to a "t" :p


Anyways, who knows what future episodes will bring :D