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very disappointing ......what's the meaning of a van full of beer ? Are they telling us that at the end the numbers don't mean a thing but it's just Hugo's obsession ?

I think that the numbers r real and they r bad luck but hurley beleived so hard that he can remove the curse off of him that he was able to lift the curse.. but they r still cursed..

Mmm, I don't know..

I agree with the fact that not everything has significance.
But remember when Locke said that if you give the island something, it will give you something?
The beer could be the islands reward.

Did we all forget that the Hurley's numbers are also on the side of the hatch? The numbers entered into the computer? Etc?
They go so far beyond Hurley.

Wow...42 minutes of Hurley trying to start a car.

I'm now understanding why all my other friends stopped watching out of frustration and started watching Heroes instead.

Lost is over with people. This once great show slipped down the slippery slope that so many other shows have. Thanks Carlton and David for ruining what could have been a really great idea. Next time you take your cues from Stephen King....check out the part of his books that is called a plot. Most good stories have them. They are what keep the audience interested in watching.

I thought it was just so-so. I don't know. It just didn't do it for me. And I'm disappointed that I feel that way. Maybe I am disillusioned after SIASL? Maybe I'm overspoiled?
I mean, I thought that there would be *something* over that cliff. But all it was was a joyride.... and while the boys being boys is kind of cute.... it just wasn't enough for me.

This episode provided some great comedy relief but honestly, except for the final 3 minutes with Locke, Sayid, Kate and Rousseau what purpose did it serve as far as furthering the story line? This episode was terrible in that respect and gawd can somebody please just let Sawyer die or find another girlfriend? Are we seriously going to have to put up with those two making cow eyes at each other for the next 12 episodes and could somebody please tell me what he was supposed to apologize for?

Loved Hurley, but didn't care much for the flashbacks. I liked the whole abandonment/finding comfort in food thing, but the bad luck curse thing has been done to death.

Not nearly as mysterious and interesting as last weeks episode.

Hurley is one of my favorite characters so I did like that it was his episode and I did like that we finally got to see Jin again for more than like two seconds. Now I'm just dying to see Locke and Sayid again (it's been months!)

But overall, it was still sort of a 'meh' episode for me. I have no problem with light episodes and think they're needed from time to time, but my main beef with this episode was Sawyer. I like his character and I think he's interesting and complex so it's just frustrating and disappointing that all he's done lately is crack jokes and make up nicknames. They're really overusing that card, and they're just not funny anymore. Sawyer's witticisms should be used sparingly so we appreciate them, not get increasingly annoyed with them.

He's not acting at all like Sawyer. He has no edge anymore and no depth really. I mean, they basically had two exactly the same scenes of him sulking over Kate at the end. I get that he's in love with her and what not, but they could handle that with a bit more finesse, no? Instead, Sawyer is yanked out of character and thrown into repeated scenes. We got it the first time! That's I guess my biggest concern - he's been featured way too much. He's been in nearly every episode in a pretty prominent role and I would really like to see him take a back seat for a bit so other people could have a shot.

Not a horrible episode, but it felt like a filler episode. The first half of the episode was tolerable because it reminded me of Season 1, during which the exploration of the island was interesting. The second half of the episode was predictable (Gosh, will Hurley and Charlie crash and die?!), and contained nothing of interest (with the exception of bringing back Danielle in the final minute). The comedy routine had some hits but also many misses. I think Lost comedy works best in tense situations. The flashback was nothing more than a rehash of Hurley's curse, and pretty much depressing. The episode seemed out of place given what is happening on the island at this time. The promos for next week's episode seem promising, though. This might be the weakest episode of the season for me, although Kate's flashback was disappointing given her previous entertaining flashbacks.

Ok...this might have been the worst. epi. ever. However, the last 5 minutes made up for A LOT. But. BUT.

1) I admit that I admire chutzpah, and the meteor had that in spades. If you're going to go over the top, you might as well do it with style.

2) HOWEVER, most of the rest was TERRIBLE, and it put the meteor in a bad perspective. I was ready to dislike this episode even more than the worst of season 2--think midseason--and that's saying a lot. It was like there were two sets of writers: one was writing Sawyer's dialogue, and the other was writing the rest. Like I say, if you're going to do Sawyer as, you know, "Sawyer!", you might as well let it rip, and the result was admittedly pretty funny. Kind of cheap laffs, but funny. Sawyer's zingers always seem like they're just about ready to lose their edge, but somehow they pull it off. However, the rest was just...ridiculous. Obviously. Moving on.

3) WHY was this a sweeps episode?? Not a good sign.

4) I'm an opinionated loudmouth.

5) Like I said, last 5 minutes--after Hurley started the bus--completely saved the episode. Possibly the series. It was really kind of a remarkable experience. Sort of a moment where TPTB just said you know what, screw the critics (both pro and amateur...) and screw sweeps, we're just gonna do what we want, and it's gonna be fun, and great. And it kind of was, for a few brief seconds. It was almost...cathartic. So kudos.

6) Michael Giacchino is the best thing TPTB have going for them right now. They should take some time to think about what this means. (Unfortunately the rest of the season is written and presumably shot by now, so...)

6.5) Sux DJ Qualls didn't make an appearance.

6.75) I promise not to say anything about missing Javi. Oops.

7) I am hoping--praying--that this was what I like to think of (in my fond fantasies) as the Turnaround Episode. That after this, it will be back to normal--"normal" being a relative term, of course. There's some promise. RousseauEyepatch GuyCandle/Wickman. RousseauEyepatch GuyCandle/Wickman! And what looks like some excellent John Locke action. Involving chess. Like I say...promising. I admit that this...wasn't exactly the way I thought they would turn it around. But in its own strange way, maybe it worked.

8) I logged on right after the episode. Connected no problem. Only 9 posts in the thread. Hope the point is clear.

Well, that's all for now, I guess.

I didn't love it.. didn't really like it much either. I was very disappointed with last weeks ep and for the first time I was disappointed two weeks in a row. We already knew that hurley bought a chicken chain and his store was hit by a meteor or whatever. Wowee, now we know that there was a reporter there and hurley isn't the best at being interviewed - and that reporter was in hurleys not yet opened store and now.. tricia tanaka is dead... alrighty then. We know that hurley believes he is cursed and based on everything we've seen happen to those around him -- he is cursed.. ok.. we know that.. we don't know why - but now we do know the name of someone else who was killed.. we can safely add hurley to the daddy issue list - but at this point we already know they pretty much all have daddy issues but there's nothing to tie any of that together or anything to show that has any bearing on anything. Finding a 70's dharma van filled with beer, a dead dharma dude, papers, plans, maps, and blah blah blah... wow.. i'm overwhelmed. Hanging out with said dead dharma dude -- alrighty then.. drinking boiled dharma beer.. alrighty then. Hurley's dad gave him a chocolate bar. That apparently screwed him up for life... hurley couldn't get the car started.. so now he's come full circle and got the van to start.. all very nice.. but totally meaningless.
We finally got to see many of the losties.. but I just didn't find anything outstanding with any of that either. I keep hoping for something more than "fluff" for lack of a better word.

I thought tonight's was trite, tired, cliched and awkwardly transparent in its efforts to tell us what we're supposed to feel about whatever is happening on the screen.

Oh--yeah, I know *exactly* what you mean. I guess maybe I'm also saying that even then, it's the best they got right now. It still kind of works even when it's blatant. But then, maybe that's kind of my point--if it's getting transparent, then...time to reconsider some things.

The Brotherhood of the Traveling VW Bus was nice...

However...what did this epi do to move anything forward or answer any questions?? Tell us ANYTHING we didn't know already about Hurley?

And the suspension of disbelief that a bus sitting in the woods for 20 years would even come close to running with oil thicker than maple syrup, dry rot in the hoses, tires that would be totally flat and rotted off the wheels and that beer would even be able to be mildly sniffed without inducing a vomit exercise just doesn't make it for me.

I was thrilled to see the old cast together again...of course Nikki and Paulo messed that moment up nicely.

Fluffly cuddly Sawyer is funny...like cousin Oliver was on the Brady Bunch..didn't you want to hug him? Where is the snarly, snippy king of the lethal one liner?

And who was that bald guy and the Iraqi with the beard with Kate at the end? The seemed so familiar...yet...

GAH!

Fluffly cuddly Sawyer is funny...like cousin Oliver was on the Brady Bunch..didn't you want to hug him?


Oh please don't compare Sawyer to Oliver! I couldn't stand that kid. He single-handedly sank the Brady Bunch. There is no way that Sawyer, even in his mellowest of moods, could do that to Lost.

The Brotherhood of the Traveling VW Bus was nice...

However...what did this epi do to move anything forward or answer any questions?? Tell us ANYTHING we didn't know already about Hurley?

And the suspension of disbelief that a bus sitting in the woods for 20 years would even come close to running with oil thicker than maple syrup, dry rot in the hoses, tires that would be totally flat and rotted off the wheels and that beer would even be able to be mildly sniffed without inducing a vomit exercise just doesn't make it for me.

I was thrilled to see the old cast together again...of course Nikki and Paulo messed that moment up nicely.

Fluffly cuddly Sawyer is funny...like cousin Oliver was on the Brady Bunch..didn't you want to hug him? Where is the snarly, snippy king of the lethal one liner?

And who was that bald guy and the Iraqi with the beard with Kate at the end? The seemed so familiar...yet...

GAH!

Totally agree here. No answers.

One hour of beer and a van. Flashbacks were not interesting, except for when Hurley's mama put her hands over the golden Jesus' ears, so he couldn't hear her talking abot having sex with his DAD.

Didn't like fluffy, I have PMS over Kate, Sawyer.

One second of Pikki is one second too long.

Was glad to see Sayid and Locke at the end.

Best part of the whole episode. The Promo for next week. Definitely.

Oh please don't compare Sawyer to Oliver! I couldn't stand that kid. He single-handedly sank the Brady Bunch. There is no way that Sawyer, even in his mellowest of moods, could do that to Lost.

My apologies...that kid was a nightmare..I guess with this epi..he was more like Norm from Cheers...guzzling beer and cracking off one liners left and right. Wow...

I agree with Baileysdad about the van in the woods, that one forced me to turn my brain off or come up with some kind of insane excuse (much like this week's Heroes *wouldn't they be radiation poisoned!?* moment).

The jungle/island climate would have turned everything metal in the van to rust and everything rubber (belts, hoses, tires) would have surely rotted. And 20 year old drinkable beer??? Come on.... I think that would taste worse than Natural Light, not to mention probably kill you.

But anyway, this was probably the most light-hearted episode of Lost I've ever seen. I'm thinking this has to be the calm before the storm (kind of how S.O.S. was last year). I'm betting the slow ride to the top of the roller coaster (these last 2 episodes) is over now. Time for the ride to begin.

I'm probably destined to not give a damn about the episodes everyone loves lately... Wait. There are very, very few episodes I've liked in season three and this was not one of them.

I do understand that Lost entails suspension of disbelief to the umpteenth degree, but the still up and running bus and the rotten beer are kinda where I draw my line.

I hate this wussified Sawyer. He's not funny (overkill much?) and he's not endearing and he's just pathetic as a kicked puppy who sulks in his beer and screeches about the thorn in his paw so that Katie can kiss the boo boo. KILL IT!

Kate has sort of improved and the last three minutes were the only thing that reminded me of why I watch this show in the first place.

Story did not move at all.

Usually I am excited during re-unions, but this re-union was just boring...
At least Sawyer did not get too much upset about his missing stuff, which would have been irritating

Hurley is one of the few characters most fans like so I'm not surprised people liked the epsiode. And yes, it was nice to see the Iraqi torture guy and the personality-shifting bald dude back on the beach (sorry, I forget those guy's names).


The episode was somewhat entertaining but as usual it seemed like filler. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with a filler episode here and there but when the first 10 episodes of season 3 could be whittled down to maybe 4 episodes, it's a bit of a drag.


The whole plot with the van and beer was ridiculous as people have already pointed out. And it's probably not a good idea to take a van downhill skiiing when you have no doctor. The whole plot felt a bit contrived and embarrasing (par for the course).


Vincent carrying an arm with a keychain conveniently in it's hand? Who came up with this one? David Lynch's less talented cousin?


Hurley's Mom: "It's been 17 years. I have needs." Nice to see the writers from "According to Jim" are doing some freelance Lost work.


Silly Sawyer is back in full force and he's dropping nicknames left and right!!
Freckles
Oliver Twist
Munchkin
Jinbo
International House of Pancakes
Jumbotron
Jiminy Cricket
Skeletor

The nicknamepalooza is getting old. TPTB need to put more time into cohesive storytelling and less into thinking up new nicknames for Sawyer to bust out.


Once again Nikki and Poop Guy pop up to suck the remaning life from my soul.


Kate seeks out Danielle (Remember Danielle?) to help find the Others lair? Well, Freckles, if The Great Explorer Danielle hasn't found it in 16 years why would she be able to now? Oh right, these caharacters are smart when TPTB need them to be and imbeciles otherwise. Whatever suits the particular plotline TPTB need to set up.

This episode was pretty awful, in fact I think it was worst than last weeks. I really thought this episode was going to turn into season 1 once Hurley found the junked out Vdub. I thought the rusted bus was simply a plot device to find the MAP which would turn into some kind of adventure. But of course Sawyer sees the map and tosses it aside to allow to have 40 minutes of nonsensical beer drinking, nick-name slandering, and joy riding of a bus in circles that did nothing to advance a plot that desperatly needs to be advanced.

The flashback was equally worse. I mean how orginal can you get. Father leaves family only to return once son wins the lottery. Son hates father...blah, blah, blah. Never saw that one before. Gee... why don't we explore how Libby and Hurley are connected pre-crash? Wait people dont care about that. We need to see for the umpteenth time that Hurley thinks he is cursed. Just like we need to see that Sawyer cons people, Kate runs, Locke keeps getting screwed over, ect. If your not going to do something in the flashback that advances the plot or answers a question just get rid of them all together. What used to be a strength of the show is turning into a glarring weakness.

TPTB obv. ripped off the Asian reporters name from Family Guy and the bus scene was a complete job off Little Miss Sunshine. I am really getting sick of the cheesy music, cliche montage scenes which stinks of day time soap oprahs that evoke no emotion what so ever. Its so over done and completely generic at this point why even bother. That time should have been spent with the people on beach grilling Sawyer and Kate on where the hell they have been.

Putting Dharma symbols on everything is getting over the top. Its one thing to have work clothes and buildings with symbols but to take the time to put it on a vehicle and beer is getting absurd. Whats next Dharma credit cards and porn magazines?

What has happened to this show is every shade of wrong. Its a shame to see such brilliance fall by the wayside. This show is on its last lives and if it doesnt something mindbending next week, stick a fork in it.

and could somebody please tell me what he was supposed to apologize for?
I think she was referring to his doubting her feelings for him last episode.

Well, Freckles, if The Great Explorer Danielle hasn't found it in 16 years why would she be able to now?
Have to admit that this is a valid point.

Why should Sawyer apologize for nailing her on the truth? Kate needs to grow up, of course so does Sawyer, but Kate is much worse and I never really realized that until this season.

I love Hurley, but the whole episode just seemed pointless. I chuckled a few times, but it just feels like at this point in the game they've got this large cast that no longer serves any real purpose in the story line so they're making stuff up for them to do and I've grown so tired of Sawyer and his nicknames and his all around worthlessness. They've got this very popular character and they do nothing with him but have him sitting around being worthless and pining for Kate.

The last 3 minutes made the episode worth while and next week's looks pretty good, but I'm a LOST fan that loves the mystery and creepiness and the characters that can bring that to forefront so that's probably why I rate this episode as mindless filler and good comedy relief that doesn't require a second look to see if I missed anything.

I also thought the Sawyer and Kate moments were mind numbing and like most have grown tired of the whole "I'm prepubescent Kate with a bad case of puppy love for two men." Keep her in the jungle shooting guns please. That's the most I've enjoyed Kate all season.

Well, looks like we're back to where the previews for next week are better than the episode. This episode did nothing. Hurley builds a golf course, Hurley eats ranch dressing, Hurley walks for a few minutes and finds a car. Hurley needs something better to do.

The preview for this episode said something like "don't miss this episode or you won't know what people are talking about tomorrow". What are people talking today about? How bad the show was?

Once again blissful ignorance reigns over our Losties. What? There's an old vehicle in the jungle which could contain maps of the island? I don't know, Hurley. We really need to get these shelves organized.

I guess one visit to a Dharma facility managed to kill Nikki's desire to explore.

just one word: dumb. i'm really upset. i didn't think they could get lower than last week, but apparently they could, and did. my brother warned me that a hurley episode would be a nothing-episode, but i was like "well, it could be something, he's all about the numbers! and libby should be there!" but no. a nothing-episode where kate's scene with Rousseau could have been one of the first scenes of the episode. (shocker! who ELSE would she go on the island to ask for help?! and THANK GOD locke and sayid found her b/c apparently she was going to go back to the others with only one other person... and didnt' give locke/sayid a chance to explain themselves on why they weren'tlooking for them)

and, i'm sorry, putting people's lives in danger for a stupid car that probably wouldn't have any gas or working parts is the stupidest thing ever. i feel like Jin would have punched them out before letting them talk him into pushing that car over the hill.

and a car is the stupidest way to "break the curse" if it even did. cheesy. corny, totally irrelavant to the plot. "lets throw in a skeleton wearing a dharma jump suit, that'll make it ok"

dumb. a total waste of an hour i didn't have last night that i trusted LOST would make worthwhile. it upset me so much that i took some time to post about it instead of writing lab reports and doing problem sets. i swear, next week better be good or i'm not watching anymore this season and their ratings can go down one more viewer. i'll buy the dvds when they come out, yes, because i've invested too much time and have become attached to some characters, but i can't do this week-to-week bit if the people in charge are going to pull this crap week after week.

I didn't actually mind this episode. It had a sunny feeling to it that made me overlook things that'd overwise piss me off. There were three things that bothered me though:

1: The characters don't act like actual human beings anymore. Their actions/reactions are just not realistic, and that takes me out of the story more than anything else in this show.

2: Michael Giacchino has been phoning it in for the past two weeks. He is obviously not trying since he's a very talented composer who's written some incredible music for Lost. The music in the past two weeks episodes has been awful. That single plantive note repeating dum.......dum........dum........dum...... in every vaguely "sad" scene is just annoying as hell now.

3: The "surprises" are no longer surprising. When Kate said she was going to get some help and then stormed off into the jungle... who else was she going to get other than Danielle? When Hurley was taken to the psychic... did anyone think Cheech didn't set it up? As soon as Tricia Tanaka asked to go inside the Mr Cluck's... did anyone not expect the meteorite? Things are SO telegraphed now.

I actually quite liked this episode, but I didn't love it. Heroes blew me away on Monday. It was exciting and clever and the twists were unexpected and the visuals were awesome and the final scene was heartwrenching. When it was over I immediately wanted to watch it again. I can't remember the last time Lost made me feel like that.

ok, this episode sucked. However, I was not as angry this week as I was with last week, because at least no promises were made that weren't fulfilled. Hurley trying to start a van? Come on, is this what it has come down to? The corpse has had time to rot, but there is good tire pressure in the tires? I sure hope next weeks episode is better than this.

On a positive note, it's a good thing that they decided to show this season with the remaining epidsodes back to back, because if I waited 2-3 weeks for an episode of this quality, I would have put a shotgun in my mouth.

I agree with Baileysdad about the van in the woods, that one forced me to turn my brain off or come up with some kind of insane excuse (much like this week's Heroes *wouldn't they be radiation poisoned!?* moment).

Ah, see, I noticed these little inconsistencies already in that particular series when he was boiling the water and Matt's meter went red. But you know what? First of all, Heroes is a superhero series, lost is or, prior to flashes before your eyes, claimed to be a mysterious but realistical series; It's in the mind's eye MUCH easier to 'suspend disbelief'.

Secondly, even the first season of lost had inconsistencies and glaring errors, but the script and camerawork was so good we forgot about them and applauded the series and idea as a whole. Sadly enough, bad camera-work and mind-numbingly dumb plot devices are about 90 percent that makes up lost in season 3, so these kind of things stand out.

Terrible.
Some funny parts, yes, but still terrible.
I miss LOST so much... Bc this is just lost

Another non-episode for me. Lost has a way of sneaking those in every now and again. Yes -- some additional Hurley background, but didn't require an entire epi of it. Nice comic relief, but -- 100% uneventful in my opinion.

Another part of the season of filler. Totally forgetable and a little bit too much of a "Screw the fans, screw the critics, we can do another boring pointless episode because we want to." Seriously the only reason I watched this week is because Project Design was a repeat.

This show has completely lost its way and I think its largely because all of these new projects like Heroes and Star Trek movies are taking the top end talent off this show and leaving it to the lesser talented members of the writing staff and they're fumbling the ball with all this crap they've filmed this year.

Sure this episode was better than two weeks ago, but really? Really? A VW bus is the best you can do? Really? A VW bus with a Family Guy reference? Really? You know, I'm available if you, you know, want episodes that don't suck giant monkee balls. You sure? Yeah, you're on the right path guys, I totally think forgetable episodes with stunt casting is the way to go.

I wasn't happy at all. So many questions.

So Sawyer shows up, everyone says hello, then he goes & sees Hurley & Jin & Hurley gives him a big hug that he's back, yet Jin doesn't even seem to care that Sawyers back. I know he doesn't speak English but come on, wouldn't he at least give a crap as to Sawyer being back???????? He doesn't even attempt to find out what happened to Sawyer, or ask if Jack & Kate are back as well. Ya, whatever.

The Kate goes to find Rosseau? Why? This woman is as dumb as a stump. She knows the island????? Well if she knows the friggen island so well, why hasn't she found her daughter yet, she's had enough time? Even Micheal manged to find Walt in a matter of a few days.

This show is taking a turn for the worse, they need to think thru their story lines, they are starting to become really unbelievable.

Last week I thought Sawyer letting Carl go was retarded, well this week disappointed even more with stupidity.

I hope they all get stuck there for eternity & that's the big ending we're all going to get.

I didn't actually mind this episode. It had a sunny feeling to it that made me overlook things that'd overwise piss me off. There were three things that bothered me though:

1: The characters don't act like actual human beings anymore. Their actions/reactions are just not realistic, and that takes me out of the story more than anything else in this show.

2: Michael Giacchino has been phoning it in for the past two weeks. He is obviously not trying since he's a very talented composer who's written some incredible music for Lost. The music in the past two weeks episodes has been awful. That single plantive note repeating dum.......dum........dum........dum...... in every vaguely "sad" scene is just annoying as hell now.

3: The "surprises" are no longer surprising. When Kate said she was going to get some help and then stormed off into the jungle... who else was she going to get other than Danielle? When Hurley was taken to the psychic... did anyone think Cheech didn't set it up? As soon as Tricia Tanaka asked to go inside the Mr Cluck's... did anyone not expect the meteorite? Things are SO telegraphed now.

I actually quite liked this episode, but I didn't love it. Heroes blew me away on Monday. It was exciting and clever and the twists were unexpected and the visuals were awesome and the final scene was heartwrenching. When it was over I immediately wanted to watch it again. I can't remember the last time Lost made me feel like that.
I'd like my brain back, please!

heh. Seriously, this is precisely how I felt. I liked this episode, but didn't love it. Sure, nothing happened really, but I was entertained while it was on.

But in terms of progression, this episode was completely flat.

Since the "mmmmmmm, more filler" thread was closed for some reason (must focus negativity), I'll post my response here:

I don't think you should be surprised. This episode appealed to the kinds of people who still enjoy the show (focused on the original cast, lots of "meet cute" moments and hugs: Jin bonds with Sawyer, Jin and Sun talk English, Hurley talks to Libbey's grave, Sawyer plays nice, etc.).

But yes, it was an absolute filler episode with virtually no overall impact on the ongoing plot (whatever that is) or the mountain of various island mysteries.

It took a year in viewer time since Alex's fist appearance, but someone finally made the connection that Alex may be Danielle's daughter and then (gasp!) actually told Danielle about it. So now Danielle is "invested" in finding the Others.

That was about a minute at the very end of the episode. So basically if you only watched that minute and skipped the other 59, you would be at the exact same spot in terms of keeping up with what's happening on the show. That's the epitome of filler.

Meh.

I enjoyed that the lighthearted character development episode, but the tone felt really uneven. For one thing, the music was killing me - there was a jarring disconnect between what was going on in the show and the music cues. If you're going to do comedy, then don't cut to commercial on the "impending doom" musical cue. They're just trying to start a van!

Maybe I missed something but how did Sawyer suddenly come across Hurley and van that easily when no one had ever found it before and Vincent had to "lead" Hurley to it? That was very unbelievable to me...

Maybe the island cured Hugo of his curse just as it cured John's legs and Rose's Cancer.

The show couldn;t get any lower for me after last weeks travesty and parts of this episode I did like. But it was definetly a filler episode, but I thought it was a good filler episode. I think if we hadn't had last weeks filler episode, people wouldn;t be so bothered about this one.

But I'd have to agree with the person that said this episode was about getting over the lull of last weeks episode, because there was nothing to continue on from, so it set up a new series of episodes if that makes any sense, and next weeks episode looks pretty damned cool, so while there were aspects of this episode that were pretty silly (the cheesy montage at the end was kind of annoying) I feel optimistic after this episode, rather than sad that this show is done for like I was after last week!

Dearest writers:
Everything out of Sawyer's mouth doesn't have to be a pop-culture reference.
It was cute when Sawyer threw out a couple per episode.
It's obnoxious when he throws out literally ten or more.
Thanks,
A loyal Lost fan

this is the second "filler" episode in a row
both the kite-hooker and hurley flashbacks should have been condensed into 8 minutes tops

I enjoyed this episode of "Hurley and the Gang." The episode of "Lost," however, didn't do much for me. It was light-hearted and whimsical, just the kinds of words everyone would use to describe the show.:confused: :rolleyes:

Hurley started off the episode by saying that "everyone is scared." Uh... really, because all I see is people making lunch and carrying fire wood. Kate and Sawyer come back from Otherville and it's a hug-fest. Nobody immediately said, "What happened? How did you get back? Where's Jack?" We get a hugging montage. When the hell are these Nikki and Paulo people actually going to do something useful? Isn't that the perfect moment for them to chime in? No, no... leave the "heavy lifting" for Locke and Sayid, after everyone has gone back to searching for Dharma granola. Totally ridiculous.

A Volkswagen Bug named, "Hope." Where to start? A pointless flashback designed to make Hurley a more sympathetic character. I think we've gotten the point. Hurley's thinks he's cursed... and the universe seems to agree. The only thing we did learn is that Hurley's mother is truly a "nut-job." Waiting 17 years to get some "sweet love" from Cheech? :ermm: And instead of Hurley trying to discern from Desmond, Danielle or anyone why "the numbers" are prevalent on this island, he's going to fix a broken Dharma van and change his destiny. Super. I get it, we can't let the big "numbers" secret out of the bag too soon. Gotta save that for season 5.:rolleyes:

Sawyer has become neutered. He's a shadow of his former self. He's hugging everybody, teaching English clichés to Jin and seems to be highly motivated by... wait for it... flat dirty beer. He is now a caricature, not a character.

As stated earlier by Malachy, you could watch the last minute and not miss anything important. I'd add the earlier scene where Sayid and Locke actually ask Kate a relevant question about the Others as the only other plot-based moment. Never mind the guy that can, "see the future," because Hurley's got a car to start.

Another useless episode

We found out that Hurley has very bad luck in a weird way...oh oops never mind, we already knew that.

We found out that Hurley's dad left when he was young...oh oops never mind, we already knew that.

We did find out that you can drink beer that's been in the back of a truck in the heat for god knows how long and the said beer will taste fine. (FYI: beer has a VERY SHORT shelf life in the heat.

We also found out that Hugo might have a problem with blood but he sure has hell doesnt have a problem with rotting corpses(go figure!)

As I mentionned in the top line: Just another useless episode!

It would of been really good if kate or Sawyer simply said something along the lines of this to EVERYONE when they arrived at the beach:

"Listen everyone: They have Jack as a hostage, and the bastards have a way to get off the island too."

If you call 911 and you end up talking to an old high-school friend, will you A)catch up on the past or B) explain your emergency right away?

I give it a 4 out of 10....which is 4 times better than last weeks turd....I know, I know that's not saying much.

Never mind the guy that can, "see the future," because Hurley's got a car to start.


Great point. If the past is any indication of what's to come, no one will discuss Desmond's ability for at least 7-10 episodes.

While I enjoyed the lightheartedness of the episode I agree does everything that comes out of Sawyers mouth have to be a pop culture reference, he has become a cliche'. I mourn for his character, only because he used to be one of my favorites. Poor Hurley, he seems to be the brunt of fat jokes even from his own father.

We did find out that you can drink beer that's been in the back of a truck in the heat for god knows how long and the said beer will taste fine. (FYI: beer has a VERY SHORT shelf life in the heat.

That other thread about cutting some slack on the continuity errors is hilarious.

'The island cured some people, maybe it was preserving the van and the beer! I'm sure TPTB have a perfect reasoning' :eek2:

Since the "mmmmmmm, more filler" thread was closed for some reason (must focus negativity), I'll post my response here:
You mean http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=71087 ? I dont see a lock on it. :shrug:

This was the first episode of the first three seasons that I would describe as bad. The writing and story felt second rate. I didn't feel like this episode took the chatacters anywhere in their development. The Hurley backstory told us nothing new about him. It seemed to be trying to create an episode out of nothing. Do TPTB think they are thru telling his story?

You mean http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=71087 ? I dont see a lock on it. :shrug:

Thanks to whoever unlocked that thread! :)

and next weeks episode looks pretty damned cool,

Ya they all look cool until we actually watch them...

Ya they all look cool until we actually watch them...

next one is a go or bust. I am betting all my chips on it. Or it will the last.

Yeah! Like they were going to kill Hurley and Charlie. Did they show any developments? No! Was this just a filler? Yes! Just another waste of time. Very disapointing.

This episode provided some great comedy relief but honestly, except for the final 3 minutes with Locke, Sayid, Kate and Rousseau what purpose did it serve as far as furthering the story line? This episode was terrible in that respect and gawd can somebody please just let Sawyer die or find another girlfriend? Are we seriously going to have to put up with those two making cow eyes at each other for the next 12 episodes and could somebody please tell me what he was supposed to apologize for?

Totally. I would even go so far as to say the last three minutes didn't really serve as much...I was waiting for some huge cliff-hanger for the next week, but all we got was a fact we've known since last season. Granted, it's good that Rousseau knows about Alex now....but it could have been included in another episode and made it more interesting. I'm also fed-up with the Kate-Sawyer thing... that part on the beach honestly got me frustrated. PLEASE come up with something better, writers! And I too am unsure what he's apologizing for...

Loved Hurley, but didn't care much for the flashbacks. I liked the whole abandonment/finding comfort in food thing, but the bad luck curse thing has been done to death.

Couldn't agree more...I love Hurley, but those flashbacks were redundant. I'm sick of the "bad luck" theme. WE GET IT.

I'm just dying to see Locke and Sayid again (it's been months!)
UUUGH, I know! Locke is one of my favorite characters. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I may just go so far as to say I miss the days of the Jack-Locke feuds. The more episodes of season 3 I see, the more I long for a season like last year (or, in a perfect world, season 1).

I have no problem with light episodes and think they're needed from time to time, but my main beef with this episode was Sawyer. I like his character and I think he's interesting and complex so it's just frustrating and disappointing that all he's done lately is crack jokes and make up nicknames. They're really overusing that card, and they're just not funny anymore. Sawyer's witticisms should be used sparingly so we appreciate them, not get increasingly annoyed with them.
YES, thank you. I love the mysterious Sawyer, and this episode they wrote him completely out of his character. I could predict what he was going to say next -- but the part I like about Sawyer is that you normally have no idea what he'll say because he's such a lose cannon. The nicknames are nice when they're uncommon...like an easter egg of sorts. I agree, they're being terribly over-used.

Ok...this might have been the worst. epi. ever.
Sadly, I think I agree with you. I can't think of another episode that I was so disappointed with after watching. I thought after FBYE the writers were getting back into the swing of things, but this episode just proves how much we NEED JJ ABRAMS!

Michael Giacchino is the best thing TPTB have going for them right now. They should take some time to think about what this means. (Unfortunately the rest of the season is written and presumably shot by now, so...)
I love Michael Giacchino, he's totally made this show what it is. Without the amazing score, LOST just wouldn't be the same!

Wow, sorry this was so long.... thanks for letting me rant. I just don't understand why so many people LOVED this episode!? Besides having many of the castmates together again, there wasn't anything I loved about it.

I thought is was definitely a worthless episode.

Except last scenes with Danielle, total filler. Even these scenes were predictable. I would have loved this episode in Season 1. I think the writers have understood the viewers' requests for "Season 1 " ambience wrongly. Funny, light episodes are certainly necessary but I don't think this was the right time... We have endured 9 episodes of a torture session or play in Othersland and that's what happens after all this???? The reunion scene was a complete disaster. How come anyone doesn't ask about Jack and show some worry? Hurley, being himself captured by the Others and later released, sees Sawyer and learns that Jack is not back and his reaction "Ok, don't worry, life goes on, let's have some fun". Locke, Sayid don't show any interest on rescuing Jack but follow Kate to show the way!!!

Well that's why I'm having difficulty in considering Lost as a character driven drama and I'm watching the shows in DVR and fastforwarding many scenes. No one on this Island seems relatable anymore. The characters just act in the plot written for them in an episode and do not have any concern, worry, interest, thought, idea about the events going around. They are not showing the characteristics of homosapiens, not even a humanoid, just a robot booted with a certain mission.

Maybe I missed something but how did Sawyer suddenly come across Hurley and van that easily when no one had ever found it before and Vincent had to "lead" Hurley to it? That was very unbelievable to me...

And am i wrong or wasn't Hurley with Charlie when Desmond told him about death ? Why is he explaining it again at the beginning ?

If Lost was on form, on course then this episode would have been enjoyable. But Lost is in big trouble and this only makes it worse.

The scene with Hurley, the chocolate bar and his father riding off into the distance was, quite frankly, an insult.

Everytime they have a flashback it seems to me that they drag the show down. Hurley's flashback was really not necessary. I too agree the flashback with the candy bar was insulting and not funny at all. I think that the flashbacks were good when the show was new, but it is really getting annoying. I now realize that they have an overkill just on flashbacks. They can't seem to do a 60 minute program without using the flashbacks. I really want to know why the rest of the Losties didn't spend time looking for Jack, Kate and Sawyer, after Hurley came back. Why didn't Locke or Sayid organize a search party. they have to wait until Kate gets back to organize one. The last time they were looking for J/K/S was when they were on the boat and Sun killed someone. How easily they gave up.

i'm appalled at how many people liked this episode. and it's encouraging the writers. Nothing, and i mean Nothing, new was shown. This is not a sitcom show where we want to watch undeveloping characters in new plots each week. You have a whole hour. Use it.

i can't even talk about it anymore

Everytime they have a flashback it seems to me that they drag the show down. Hurley's flashback was really not necessary. I too agree the flashback with the candy bar was insulting and not funny at all. I think that the flashbacks were good when the show was new, but it is really getting annoying. I now realize that they have an overkill just on flashbacks. They can't seem to do a 60 minute program without using the flashbacks. I really want to know why the rest of the Losties didn't spend time looking for Jack, Kate and Sawyer, after Hurley came back. Why didn't Locke or Sayid organize a search party. they have to wait until Kate gets back to organize one. The last time they were looking for J/K/S was when they were on the boat and Sun killed someone. How easily they gave up.

And Hurley says everyone is on edge...yet they are on the beach sorting out food and sunbathing. Locke is " wood " until Kate returns and sets off on her own.

We don't get to see Hurley's return and within minutes of coming back, Sawyer finds the van that had been hidden until now

Sawyer asks who was the third person drinking his booze ?
" It was Hurley. He's gone off somewhere we don't know, but head off in that direction for 20 minutes, take a right near the Smokey hole and 10 minutes later you'll find a van. He'll be there. "

And Vincent the dog. Please. Enough is enough.

i'm appalled at how many people liked this episode. and it's encouraging the writers. Nothing, and i mean Nothing, new was shown. This is not a sitcom show where we want to watch undeveloping characters in new plots each week. You have a whole hour. Use it.

i can't even talk about it anymore

I couldn't agree more. I find myself saying this to friends over and over again - Lost shouldn't be a damn Soap Opera. It became the great show that it is not because of love stories, or sad stories, or grieving, or any other typical sitcom/soap opera BS. Lost is Lost because of the hatch, the others, Dharma, the smoke monster, and so on. WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THAT?!?!

The first 6 episodes of season 3 could have been 1 episode, easy. These last 2 may as well have not existed at all. They have added absolutely nothing to the show, in my opinion.

I don't think I had a single facial expression over the course of this episode. There was nothing in the ep that inspired so much as a facial tic in me. The 'funny' parts weren't really funny, nor the 'heartwarming' parts heartwarming. It was just there. And this is coming from a person who usually shouts insults or approval at the television set.

In hindsight, I do have to mentally snort at the swelling music that drowned out what could have been an interesting reunion scene when Kate and Sawyer returned. Honestly, I think most people would favor a far more realistic "let's hug briefly then I'll grill you" reunion over the sappy, yet 'pretty', scene that we got. It was so flat with false emotion. Why not let the actors and writers try to elicit sympathy from us rather than having a composer force-feed it to us? They so took the easy way out. Par for the course.

It was like let's take a week off and let the viewer have an episode with very little meaning and very little significance to the entire show. IMO Normally I wouldn't mind, but we had a few month hiatus and I am not ready for a very slow and/or weak episode.

ive rated this ep 5, ya it was humourous.....but again NOTHING NEW...grrrr I have faith an all, but i'm irriated now...2 bad episodes in a row...

I find myself saying this to friends over and over again - Lost shouldn't be a damn Soap Opera. It became the great show that it is not because of love stories, or sad stories, or grieving, or any other typical sitcom/soap opera BS. Lost is Lost because of the hatch, the others, Dharma, the smoke monster, and so on. WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THAT?!?!

Well, they revisited the 'powers' aspect that is a part of Lost.

Plotline: Stagnant!

I am neutral about this episode. It wasnt great & it definitely wasnt as bad as the last one. But hey...can we get over the stupid redemption, hope themes etc?

How about the real mysteries & plotlines?

1. Sawyer: Is tht really Sawyer?
2. No one fears to go into the jungle anymore. Smokey! Who?
3. Whole episode on how the car got started. Enough. We know the island is special.
4. Rousseau is gonna help find Otherville. She hasnt even seen any other except for Ben
5. All the episodes are probably canned. and we will just have to bear with as many FILLERS & stupid episodes come our way.
6. I cant let go of this show. But my frustration is increasing.

I did not love this episode.
I did not hate this episode.
I did not enjoy this episode.
I did not booed this episode.

I just "saw" this episode.

Hi there,

This is my 1st time on the "didn't love" episode until the beginning of S1 !!!
I agree with most of you. Where is Lost ?
We have had some unnecessary episodes in a row, Jack's tatoo, Hurley's van...
Where is happening to Locke and Sayid ?
I am starting to get really disappointed with Lost and I used to be a great great fan...

Now I am staring to thing that Lost is just a common TV show...

:(

Wally

Thank goodness for Heroes, Battlestar Galactica, and 24. This show has gone from being my fave show of all time to a show that I don't care if I miss an episode anymore.
You want funny moments, watch a real comedy. You want cute and cuddly, tune into blues clues. You want interpersonal relationships, there is always oprah and dr. phil. It is to the point where I would rather watch Oprah than Lost and I HATE oprah.
I wish the writers would just steal one of the great theories off of the fuselage and run with it.
Hey Yung24, do you still think the idiots that are writing for lost now could really have come up with all the quantum crap that you have developed as being the underlying theme of Lost? I think not. By the way, I love your theories about as much as I hate what lost has become.
There are so many, many, many mysteries that the writers developed in season 1 for the writers to work with for another two years explaining away. Instead we are being subjected to "feel good" episodes of lost.
I guess we all now know why Alias started off so great and it too became crap in the end.
Why can't these guys just tell the story? I guess no one who is working on this show has looked at the ratings lately because Lost has become lost on the TV ratings.

I love lost but it seems like they did this week what they did in the middle of last season when they disregarded the main plot and just did filler episodes ... this was one, next week should, and prob will, return to the main storyline that we all care about ... dont get me wrong i like hurley, but the episode seemed like nonsense to me, hopefully they will make yje episode significant in the future

On a positive note, it's a good thing that they decided to show this season with the remaining epidsodes back to back, because if I waited 2-3 weeks for an episode of this quality, I would have put a shotgun in my mouth.

Good one! :)

My measure of what I felt for this episode is the amount of posts I have written for its thread: I found exactly TWO topics interesting enough to post on. This one, of course, and the one on Pikki. That is all, Nothing to discuss, to speculate, to suggest.

An article (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/ent_radio/story/501897p-423273c.html) from The New York Daily News entitled "Fans say fun is all but 'Lost'" describes the current state of Lost:
This week's episode of "Lost" ended with Hurley driving an old VW bus around in circles.

The scene could not have been a more obvious metaphor for the direction of the show this season. That is, unless Vincent the dog was shown chasing his tail.
The article states that viewers are beginning to tune out:
"Taken 'Lost' off of Tivo," eulogized a fan on the Lost-TV message board, recalling, "I got a DVR solely for 'Lost.'"
And this is funny:
"I felt like [Wednesday] night's episode was a rerun of 'Gilligan' Island,'" quipped another fan on Lost-TV. "I was waiting for Gilligan and the Professor to build a new engine (for the VW bus) out of coconuts and Mrs. Howell's jewelry."

If I had to chose between whether I didn't love it or I loved it, I have to go with I didn't love it, because again we had another episode that did nothing, in my opinion, to advance the storyline of the island or why they are there.

That doesn't mean it was awful, I guess I am middle of the road about it.

The Team felt kinda "blah" about this one. Great beginning, but nothing much more from there. We felt the flashbacks were a little hard to swallow. I could see Hurley's mother calling back the father to try and talk Hurley out of the idea of being cursed, but the sexual component was just juvenille. And why is it that no one was interested in a car, an actual mainstream vehicle, on the island? People were fascinated by the Black Rock, but a VW...excuse me, DI...van doesn't spark even the tiniest interest? And they got it going, but if they drive it in circles (which as just silly, but it did look fun) all day, don't they know they are going to runn out of some important fluid, namely gas?
I guess, as so many others have said, we just don't see the point. If the van or Roger or the beer become important later, that's fine, but wasn't there a faster way to get there? Did it require an entire episode?
We'll stay with LOST because we're in it for the long haul, but the second part of this season seems to be going in the wrong direction as far as fan interest is concerned.

I'm sad to say that I didn't even watch it. After seeing the previews last week (sitting through 42 minutes of Jack's and his tattoos) I decide that it just not worth staying up late to watch lost on Wednesday night. Now I feel so blah about the show that I still haven't watched the TIVO of Tricia Tanaka is Dead.

I'm just full of bitterness. It's been almost a year since the two guys were in the tent in Antarctica and saw the magnetic anomaly. Since that time I've had to sat though the mini season of 6 episodes (that were so forgettable that all I remember is Sawyer and Kate did it in a animal cage) and another 42 minutes of Jack and his tattoos.

I think the problem is not that the Lost is focusing on the romance, but TPTB are trying to change Lost into the type of show that can be sold into syndication. They need more episodes that are independent of each other and can be watched in reruns out of order. In 5 years from now we will be watching reruns of Lost and saying "Oh yeah, this is the one where Hurley finds the old VW van. That sure was cool!"

What in the Hell has happened to this show?
I understand that suspension of disbelief is important and something I am usually good at, but when the engine on the VW actually started I wanted to throw things at the TV.
I love Hurley and I was so excited to see an episode that focused on him. Then I watched it. So incredibly pointless.
I am just about ready for a hurricane to hit the island and kill all of these idiots, with Jack getting it first, please.
I'll give it 2 more weeks, but I am not hopeful. If the creators do have a plan and know where this is all going, I can't imagine this week's episode was part of it.
And the last five minutes sucked just as much as the rest of the episode. How many months have we known about Alex? The shocking conclusion is that a character we almost never see finds out some information the viewers have known for many months?
Wow. Compelling.

It was like let's take a week off and let the viewer have an episode with very little meaning and very little significance to the entire show. IMO Normally I wouldn't mind, but we had a few month hiatus and I am not ready for a very slow and/or weak episode.

Any idea when this epi was filmed ? I just wonder if they have these epis to slow down the plot but also so they have time to gauge reaction from the audience about previous episodes and how the show is moving.

The scene could not have been a more obvious metaphor for the direction of the show this season. That is, unless Vincent the dog was shown chasing his tail.

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

In 5 years from now we will be watching reruns of Lost and saying "Oh yeah, this is the one where Hurley finds the old VW van. That sure was cool!"

In five years if this pops up as a re-run, people will zap away at lightspeed.

Does anyone else find it insulting that so much of the media keep using the time slot as an excuse for the ratings drop. D'uh, if they took five minutes to check this site, they'd find that last week 50% of the fans who posted said the show was stupid. And these are the FANs, not casual viewers. Where's the accountability for executive decisions in this network?

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/02/news/companies/abc_sweeps/

Why is everyone so jazzed about the last five minutes of Kate telling Danielle about Alex? Danielle has known about Alex being alive and with the others since "Maternity Leave" when Claire told her about Alex helping her escape from them.

Claire may not have said her name was Alex, but she did describe her age, eyes, hair color and her not being like the others. So Danielle at that point should have been curious as to whether that was her daughter or not...she should've been inclined to search for her right then as opposed to this dramatic situation with Kate.

Does anyone else find it insulting that so much of the media keep using the time slot as an excuse for the ratings drop. D'uh, if they took five minutes to check this site, they'd find that last week 50% of the fans who posted said the show was stupid. And these are the FANs, not casual viewers. Where's the accountability for executive decisions in this network?

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/02/news/companies/abc_sweeps/
Sorry, how did you get the 50% out of that article?

The thing that made me mad was I read an article about how TPTB ( I believe) said this episode would be great because it's like S1. It has the mystery and humor and all the gang like the first season.
Well here's the difference.
Let's say this WAS in season 1.
We would be wondering what happened to Sawyer.
We would be freaking out saying "Where did a VAN come from?"
"Oh, Hurley is un-lucky."

Well, we know people used transportation. We already know Hurley is unlucky and we know where Sawyer was.
There was NOTHING new here to give us a sense of wonder, excitement or even care. It was like a a friend telling you a story you already heard.
TPTB need to step it up, quit making fluff episodes and start giving us something or we'll all be buying the 2 hour wrap up show in the same box set as The Nine and Daybreak.

Try to imagine this Hurley epidode if it had focused on what happened in Austrialia. Maybe they could have given a little tiny answer to the giant mystery. But instead they gave us a cute fluffy story about Hurley and his dad.

I remember one of the TPTB on the ABC Lost podcast or somewhere else say that Lost is about people fixing something in that is wrong in their life.

Lost is not about a mystery, its a show about characters who are screwed up like everybody else and the get a chance to fix it.

I wish I had figured this out 2 1/2 seasons ago. I would have turned off the TV and read a good book instead.:frown:

Why is everyone so jazzed about the last five minutes of Kate telling Danielle about Alex? Danielle has known about Alex being alive and with the others since "Maternity Leave" when Claire told her about Alex helping her escape from them.

Claire may not have said her name was Alex, but she did describe her age, eyes, hair color and her not being like the others. So Danielle at that point should have been curious as to whether that was her daughter or not...she should've been inclined to search for her right then as opposed to this dramatic situation with Kate.

Common sense would dictate that Danille would have been curious but this is Lost. These characters are rarely curious about anything. They lack common sense and rational thought until TPTB need them to do something to fit one of the countless plots.

I just found this whole episode tedious. The writers need to decide what they want to do with the show. Is it about the mysteries or about the characters. They don't seem to be able to do both at the moment. Take this episode. It's the first time Hurley's mentioned Libby, in what ten episodes? It's one of the few times someone's mentioned Michael and Walt. No one seemed at all bothered that Jack was still with the Others. Yet Hurley says everyone's all scared. Really?

Then we have bits of mystery, that are picked up and discarded.

My friend is a massive Lost fan but she's not in anyway involved with the online fandom. She actually fell asleep during the episode, she found it that boring. Except for me, my whole family have lost interest in this show.

No one seemed at all bothered that Jack was still with the Others. Yet Hurley says everyone's all scared. Really?



I agree. No one on the beach seemed concerned that Jack was with The Others. You would think they would be really concerned to lose Jack since he is their only doctor.

And yeah, when Hurley said everyone's scared, I thought, "really?". TPTB have given us no sense that any of these people are scared.

yeh i didnt love it at all........i mean ya'll built up so much hype over this episode and on a 1-10........i'd give it a 4. dont get me wrong i'm a big of a fan as they get but basically to narrow it down......they found a van w/ beer....kate and sawyer came back....and they pushed the van down the hill....o yeh and the whole jack situation u don't wanna get me started on that...................
ALL I ASK IS 4 A DESCENT EPISODE HERE SOON....i loved the first "semester"(i guess you could say) that they showed last year......every episode was great but so far right now........i'm not to happy w/ them. but hopefully things will pick up!!!!!

LOSTinmyownworld17, you might want to reconsider that avatar :) :75happy:

Common sense would dictate that Danille would have been curious but this is Lost. These characters are rarely curious about anything. They lack common sense and rational thought until TPTB need them to do something to fit one of the countless plots.

Thanks for reminding me Colin72....I forgot about the lack of common sense. *smiles*

Ashli

I'll keep it brief "BORING", next ep please !!!! :drowsy:

Sorry, how did you get the 50% out of that article?

Sorry, I meant that about 50% of the fans who rated the show on this site last week ranked it as a 5 or below, last time I checked (the episode before last). My figure might not be accurate. But what I meant is that if the reporters ever looked at this fan site or others, they would realize that ratings are dropping because of fan dissent against the show. I get irritated when they keep accepting TPTB explanation that its because of the time slot. What else do they expect TPTB to say/ "More and more of the fans are telling us the show sucks but we're not listening." No, they keep perpetuating this myth that all the fans are buzzing about the show and its just the time slot that's the problem.

Thanks for reminding me Colin72....I forgot about the lack of common sense. *smiles*

Ashli


Yeah, I think "lack of common sense" is actually a plotline on the show. And I have to admit, it's done really well.

TTID was really disappointing, easily the worst of the season (and I really didn't like FI or EMFH) and possibly the series. After going back and re-watching Solitary, I realized just how good S1 was and how depressing it is that so many people hail TTID as a S1-type epi. Yes, there was the return of the ensemble and some lighthearted banter, but it really doesn't even come close to the same quality. Heck, a S1 epi would have included everyone in the feel-good time - much like Sawyer tried to join the group by betting on the golf tournament, it could've been an opportunity to try to show Pikki in a good light. Oh well.

Sawyer was just too much, maybe my biggest problem with this episode since I thought most of it fell flat. Apparently, some people thought it was hilarious and that Sawyer was in rare form; Apparently dead-guy-shtick + Sawyerisms = 10!! :rolleyes: Plus, I know that many fans are happy to finally get a break from Jack, but some of us that feel that way about Sawyer (and I'm only giving Kate a pass since she's finally not teen angst Kate).

I agree. No one on the beach seemed concerned that Jack was with The Others. You would think they would be really concerned to lose Jack since he is their only doctor.And it goes against continuity again too - remember Pikki's assault on Hurley when he returned to camp without the others? Yet its happy montage for Kate & Sawyer? What's more, two montages in one episode, as a follow up to the one in SIASL? Meh.

It seemed the flashbacks were filling in all the gaps in Hurley's past and with the overly lighthearted actions of the boys on the island, I had that uneasy "I am a leaf on the wind; watch how I soar" feeling - and although I know it might have been series suicide, I was hoping for a surprisingly unhappy moment near the end to salvage the episode. And all these complaints without even mention of how tedious and frivolous the van scene were....

Yeah, on the plus side, many did genuinely enjoy it, or else thought it was just a harmless episode despite the fact that it didn't advance the plot. TPTB are entitled to some fun. It doesn't seem to have hurt them, at least.

That's funny, jennanne--I got exactly the same vague sense of unease that you did while watching it :)

I'm predicting a few strong episodes in a row...the next is another Damon & Cuse script (not surprisingly, based on the preview), so we'll see.

AZJeepDude Yeh I changed it LOL i just thought it was funny but its all good

This (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20014203,00.html) from Entertainment Weekly's Doc Jensen:
There is good audience anxiety (''I have no idea what's going on and I love it!'') and bad audience anxiety (''I have no idea what's going on and I hate it) — and the tide is rapidly turning toward the latter. Viewers are jumping ship — and if they aren't, then they're on the decks wringing their hands and eyeballing the lifeboats.

no i didn't like this episode at all! i usually like hurpley episodes, but this one was boring and pointless.

but this one was boring and pointless.


You have hit the nail on the head!
There have been far too many episodes in Seasons 2 and 3 that have been boring and pointless.

I watched Season 1 on DVD and I stayed up until 4am one night because I could not stop watching. (I'm 44 years old, so 4am is unbelievably late for me) Now in season 3 I'm falling asleep watching Lost. :frown: