Kate is able to get out of her cage

Jack can open his cell

Sawyer has let down his guard

Kate's Miami Cop Husband was a fugitive hunter

Locke going to get shovels to bury Eko

What is next

People on LOST boards are cool...

I didnt see anything in the episode that wasnt what it seemed. All of the things you point out were exactly what they seem.

No, I see HF's point...

Kate's cage is only an illusion. Don't you wonder if Sawyer is actually trapped or if he's just cowed into staying in the cage? In actuality, either of them could leave at any time. Much like Sawyer's belief that he's stuck on Alcatraz has broken him to the point that he won't run.

Jack thinks he's locked up in a room by himself, but actually he could escape whenever he wanted. He thought he didn't have the free will to leave at any time, but he did. Once the surgery became a choice, he chose to help Ben, but it had to be on his terms.

There is HUGE irony in the fact that Kate's husband is a fugitive hunter, and yet he's married to a fugitive!

Recall the line, "What you see is what you get..." (Kevin about Kate). Well, tonight it definitely wasn't WYSIWIG.

Good points, HF.

By the way, the lock on Sawyer's cage was open even before Kate hit it with a rock. Just watch it in slow motion and you'll see for yourself

There is HUGE irony in the fact that Kate's husband is a fugitive hunter, and yet he's married to a fugitive!

Maybe. We've seen coincidences that were more forced for effect (Locke working for a box company, Hurley owning one--no real usefulness knowing this). There may be something more to this irony...

Jack thinks he's locked up in a room by himself, but actually he could escape whenever he wanted.

No the door has been locked up to this point. Someone unlocked it and said to give it a try.

AS I SAID In a small whisper....Nothing as it seems

the lock was likely just a prop issue. there is no way that Kate could have smashed open a real lock. this is a prop and was likely built to practically open while it just hangs there. dont read anything into that. it is not part of the story line...unless it turns out that someone really did leave it open. my initial thought though is that this is simply a matter from the prop department

only thing i think isn't as it seems is kate seeming like a nice and regular housewife.

Recall the line, "What you see is what you get..." (Kevin about Kate). Well, tonight it definitely wasn't WYSIWIG.
Nice catch, one of the main themes of the episode I reckon.
A lot of situations in this ep were not what they seemed at first.

So, who do we think let Jack out? Juliet? Alex? Perhaps it's been open for ages?

Jack can open his cell

I think the Other opened it so he could see Kate and Sawyer after their lovemaking.

It looks like it couldn't be opened before.

the lock was likely just a prop issue. there is no way that Kate could have smashed open a real lock. this is a prop and was likely built to practically open while it just hangs there. dont read anything into that. it is not part of the story line...unless it turns out that someone really did leave it open. my initial thought though is that this is simply a matter from the prop department

I disagree - it would make total sense that Sawyer could get out whenever he wanted. After, Kate could get out whenever she wanted and that wasn't a prop issue.

The intercom actually working...or is it?

I was just thinking back to the end of season 2. Remember when Desmond's girl (Widmore) had the two guys in the snow locate the EMF , they called her and said "we found them" what happened to that?....I think I 'll start another thread here

I think the lock on Sawyer's cage was supposed to look locked. It does until Kate hits it the first time. I did look at it in slow-mo. It opens just enough to tell with the first hit but it becomes obvious after a few more hits. Prop trouble.

We have to remember that Sawyer isn't leaving just because of the lock but becuase he knows they are being watched and listened too so the Others will be after them before they could get very far.

I recall hearing them turning something to open Jack's prison. It's been locked all along.

I think the lock on Sawyer's cage was supposed to look locked. It does until Kate hits it the first time. I did look at it in slow-mo. It opens just enough to tell with the first hit but it becomes obvious after a few more hits. Prop trouble.

We have to remember that Sawyer isn't leaving just because of the lock but becuase he knows they are being watched and listened too so the Others will be after them before they could get very far.

I recall hearing them turning something to open Jack's prison. It's been locked all along.

Sawyer also realized now that there is nowhere to run.

It seems to me that Feb 7 is not coming as fast as I would like. Is it me or is this a scientific experiment gone wrong?

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The intercom actually working...or is it?


I think the intercom is
A) possibly partially working
B) possibly partially in Jack's head
C) picking up noises and voices around the Hydra
C 1/2) Full of dolphin gunk (ewww)
D) Edit: Picking up whispers (thanks justjared:angel:)

I saw someone's countdown the other day and i though it'd be like in the 30's or 40's but it was in the 60's and i almost died.

I think the intercom is
A) possibly partially working
B) possibly partially in Jack's head
C) picking up noises and voices around the Hydra
C 1/2) Full of dolphin gunk (ewww)

I think the intercom is picking up the whispers.

I have a theory that with all the hatches at one time being interconnected it's quite feasible that the intercom system ran throughout the island connecting them all. What if some of the intercom's were above ground, or at least near the surface? The system could still be intermittently broadcasting a signal from Alcatraz, and if any of the Losties are near enough to an intercom they may be picking up a few garbled words and interpreting them as whispers. :confused:

"Let it go, Jack"

Partially in Jack's head.

I also believe that all of the hatches, stations, and a few more places we do not know about yet were wired for communications with each other.

Loudspeakers and intercoms for short distance communications (inside the station or with other stations veryveryvery close by). A local area network was put into place for more distance stations (Swan, Staff/Medical, Hydra, etc.). There was even a radio tower put into place for even more long range communications with elements outside of the island.

Maybe it was just me, but it sounded like Alex's voice on the intercom, she's been encouraging (and helping) everyone escape, she got Claire out of there, she seemed to be helping Kate and Sawyer, she's mad because they killed her boyfriend... She's also got knowledge and access to the facilities. Any thoughts? If I'm totally off you can bash me with some fish biscuits :fish:

it would make total sense that Sawyer could get out whenever he wanted. After, Kate could get out whenever she wanted and that wasn't a prop issue.

I agree- I think that the others must know how easy it is to escape, otherwise why would they spend so much time trying to convince Sawyer not to try?

If everything they told Sawyer was the truth, and there's no way of leaving, why would they be so keen to tell him? I mean, they took him up a mountain, and pretended to put a pacemaker in him - they've gone to an awful lot of trouble to convince him not to run away. Would they really do all this if he couldn't possibly escape anyway?

Maybe it's something to do with the whole supposed 'free will' theme of the series, that he has to decide to stay or something, I don't know.

I think the intercom works just fine.