first off, didnt that appear to be the original jesus stick lock was hammering into the ground?

Obviously the heavenly lighting made a nice effect.

What were the coordinates benry gave michael when they set out from pala ferry(they werent the same as 3 05 were they-i doubt it)

paolo sure looked broken up at the ceremony ...haha

Hey, that was the best acting job that Paulo's done yet! :24:

Desmond was pretty choked up though!

Locke went and found the original stick.... but something else was carved in it... we all know how Locke ALWAYS seems to find the signs!

I was a bit sad that the other Lostie couldn't partake int he ceremony, in particular, Charlie and Bernard :(

I don't know if this is the angle you were meaning to take with this thread... but I really did not like Eko's burial at all!! I already posted something about this on Eko's thread but here it is again

When I go to a funeral, as sad as it makes me, it does help in the grieving process. It helps to "say goodbye" and gather and honor him or her. Just randomly burrying him in the middle of no where before people even get the chace to pay respects? That doesn't seem like in the best intrests of everyone to me. It seems more like that's what was more convient for the plot, to not have to hold another funeral.

I was very upset by that. I mean come on... That man deserves better. Especially since the grave is so far, people can't really even go there to pay respects that way.

I was also very upset that Charlie, Jin and Bernard weren't there, Penyours. That just seems so wrong to me.

Locke really pissed me off by burying Eko in the middle of nowhere.
The other losties, especially Charlie and Claire, should be mad when they find out. They needed to give him a proper burial ceremony.

At least he went and got the Jesus Stick. That was a good thing on Locke's part, but they should have buried him at the beach and made it more emotional.

whats a proper buriaL WHEN YOUR STRANDED ON AN ISLAND?

They burned half of the fuselage with a terrible ceremony.

Locke's reasoning behind not hauling Eko's body back to the beach is for the emotional stability of the other Lostaways, he said so himself to Desmond. It's going to be hard enough on people who they hear that Eko is dead. Seeing that his body was crushed by the monster and having a funeral on top of it would only go to make a bad situation already worse. Is it fair, is it right? No. But I also do not think Locke is the good guy you all seem to think he is.

But Eko helped alot of the losties and they have a connection to him in contrast to the strangers who died in the fuselage.

I wasn't thrilled about this burial either. He wasn't surrounded by all those who knew him to have a chance to say goodbye. And good lord, they buried him where he was killed. That's.....I don't even know what word I'm looking for.....disrespectful? Locke and Charlie dragged him out of the polar bear cave and all through the jungle, but no one could carry him to have a proper burial? Not nice.
Locke's reasoning behind not hauling Eko's body back to the beach is for the emotional stability of the other Lostaways, he said so himself to Desmond. It's going to be hard enough on people who they hear that Eko is dead. But hard or no, people need to have finality. They'll still have the shock of hearing he's dead, so why not allow for saying goodbye in a true manner.

It seems to me that Locke was in a hurry to receive further instructions, and wanted to get the ball rolling. Had enough heart to bury the man, but didn't want to tie up the whole process by having to bring Eko back, and be there with the Losties when they bury him and worry. He's a man with a mission. And remember when Locke and Desmond were walking back supposedly to the camp to get shovels, Desmond pointed out that Locke wasn't leading them back. Then Locke said that we had a stop to make first.
Did they go somewhere before they came back and burried Eko?

I hope Charlie, Claire, Jin and Benard trek out to the grave site in later episodes. They all had a connection to Eko that should have been honoured. Kind of annoyed at Locke and the writers, we missed out on a real emotional moments and it felt so wasted. Who cares about Paulo and Nikki mourning Eko, seriously?

I thought it was interesting that, although some of the group obviously felt uncomfortable, nobody contradicted Locke. He may well be the new accepted "leader" of the Lostaways. Sayid doesn't seem to want the job.

Don't mean to sound cruel, but Eko was a big guy. You want to cart his body back across the island?

I don't think the other Losties needed to see Eko's body, especially when a major part of their team is captured by the Others. The moral can't be very high back at the camp.

I think they coulda spent a little more time and emotion on it. It was pretty curt. I say it's cuz he's black! Those racist f'ers

Don't mean to sound cruel, but Eko was a big guy. You want to cart his body back across the island?

I don't think the other Losties needed to see Eko's body, especially when a major part of their team is captured by the Others. The moral can't be very high back at the camp.

It's been done. Locke and Charlie dragged him across the island once already. Plus there were 5 of them! I'm sure they could have managed just fine.

Either way, if they see the body or not, Eko still died, and unless their going to pretend he's just fine still out there somewhere happily living in a cave, then they have to tell everyone that. Either way moral's going to drop. Why not let the people he had shared bonds with and was close with be at his funeral and mourn him. Like I said before, for me at least, going to a funeral is not a burnden. It's part of the grieving process, part of saying goodbye and part of honoring the person. If they didn't want them to see how banged up his body was, wrap him in a tarp or something. Not even letting people know that he's dead and burrying him miles from the beach, there's no excuss for that.

To me it all seemed like another plot device to get Eko's death out of the way. I am also incredibly disapointed in the writers over the way they handled that. I expected much better!

It's been done. Locke and Charlie dragged him across the island once already. Plus there were 5 of them! I'm sure they could have managed just fine.

Either way, if they see the body or not, Eko still died, and unless their going to pretend he's just fine still out there somewhere happily living in a cave, then they have to tell everyone that. Either way moral's going to drop. Why not let the people he had shared bonds with and was close with be at his funeral and mourn him. Like I said before, for me at least, going to a funeral is not a burnden. It's part of the grieving process, part of saying goodbye and part of honoring the person. If they didn't want them to see how banged up his body was, wrap him in a tarp or something. Not even letting people know that he's dead and burrying him miles from the beach, there's no excuss for that.

To me it all seemed like another plot device to get Eko's death out of the way. I am also incredibly disapointed in the writers over the way they handled that. I expected much better!

I found the whole scene very original. Rather than an emotionally-powerful funeral sequence, he was buried in a shallow grave in the middle of nowhere by Locke, Desmond & Sayid (who he's had almost no interaction with) and two extras. Sniff...

As for explaining it to the other castaways, they can just say that Mr. Eko "Went to live on a farm" or something.

I found the whole scene very original. Rather than an emotionally-powerful funeral sequence, he was buried in a shallow grave in the middle of nowhere by Locke, Desmond & Sayid (who he's had almost no interaction with) and two extras. Sniff...

Original? Well, I guess that's true. Anyone else would give the guy some respect and burried him around people that cared about him. So, you think it's a good thing he was burried around people he didn't know? Or just saying, at least it was orignial?
Orignial though it may have been, I find it disrepectful. I just do not see the logic in Locke's idea here. Either way the guy's dead and people are still going to be upset. So let's not let them have closure and say goodbye??? That would be exactly the opposite of what I would want to do when someone close to me dies. And, I for one know that is not how I want to be burried. It makes absolutly no sense to me.

Whatever the case, that scene did not make me sad that Eko's gone, it made me very upset at Locke and the writers. It did not tug at my heart strings or make me feel for the characters... all the things this show used to be about. I thought it was a horrible way to send off arguably one of the more interesting characters this show has seen.

Original? Well, I guess that's true. Anyone else would give the guy some respect and burried him around people that cared about him. So, you think it's a good thing he was burried around people he didn't know? Or just saying, at least it was orignial?

Tiger, I was only kidding. I found the scene to be absolutely ridiculous and borderline-disrespectful to both the character and actor.

If you think about it, Locke buried him where his brother was originally found. Maybe he thought he'd be cooler there since that is who he went back into the jungle to find.

Let's remember that Eko's character wanted to leave the show ASAP. Maybe the dying and burial scene were the only way the writers and production crew had to pull off that scene in a short time.

Let's remember that Eko's character wanted to leave the show ASAP. Maybe the dying and burial scene were the only way the writers and production crew had to pull off that scene in a short time.


Even so, when Locke and Sayid went off for a while, they could have gone back to the beach and got more people to come. That would have been simple and effective as well.

Eko's death occurred at a very chaotic time for the Islanders. Locke saved Eko and showed Sayid & Pikki the Pearl...he may not have chosen to be the bearer of this information but it does earn him trust in Sayid's eyes. A person as open minded as Locke will be very crucial at this point to unfolding these secrets.

Locke runs to the beach...

"Hey everybody, Eko's just been killed by some black smoke which has left every bone in his body mangled....wanna come and see the damage?!!"

I think not.....



1/ Shall we get his mates over to have a look?. You wonder what the purpose is of letting his friends see him all mangled up

2/ Its a hot environment where the body is going to smell pretty badly, very quickly so you've got to bury him

3/ You dig a grave and say your prayers

4/ You tell everybody what happened and they can come and pay their respects and hold their own service later....

Locke would probably say something along the lines of something terrible has happened and Eko is no longer with us. It's not about being gross and vulgar, it's about letting people who had an attachment to Eko pay their last respects to him. Doing it later on is not the same things as doing it at his burial.

Locke would probably say something along the lines of something terrible has happened and Eko is no longer with us. It's not about being gross and vulgar, it's about letting people who had an attachment to Eko pay their last respects to him. Doing it later on is not the same things as doing it at his burial.

I disagree. You don't need to see a body lowered into the grave to hold a funeral. The priest is dead so that's out too. You can pay your respects without having to see the carnage.

Locke wanted to keep Eko's death a secret. That is why he wanted to bury him in the woods. He even went to the beach to sneak out shovels.

Locke does not want to reveal the death just yet. Not sure why, but he does not want everyone to know yet.

Locke wanted to keep Eko's death a secret. That is why he wanted to bury him in the woods. He even went to the beach to sneak out shovels.

Locke does not want to reveal the death just yet. Not sure why, but he does not want everyone to know yet.

This is quite possible, we should see quite soon what will happen with this or if the funeral will just be passed over for other plot points. Anyone who has an attachment to Eko would be upset about missing the burial and also not being told right away about his death.

This is quite possible, we should see quite soon what will happen with this or if the funeral will just be passed over for other plot points. Anyone who has an attachment to Eko would be upset about missing the burial and also not being told right away about his death.

It's strange that Eko had no real attachments on the island when he left. Except for Claire and Aaron because he baptized him. But otherwise Ana Lucia and he were the closest, along with Locke who was there at the time of his death, and Charlie for building the church and the hatch implosion.

It's strange that Eko had no real attachments on the island when he left. Except for Claire and Aaron because he baptized him. But otherwise Ana Lucia and he were the closest, along with Locke who was there at the time of his death, and Charlie for building the church and the hatch implosion.

it is very strange and it needs a whole other thread, but yes Charlie and Claire as well as Jin, since Eko went with him to find Michael, as well Bernard, and perhaps anyone on the beach who was religious.

I hope we find out more abouts Locke's motivation on this.

Yes, it was shocking.
Yes, it would be hard to explain how a swam of smokie mosquitoes did what they did.
Yes, he deseved so much more.

Anna Lucia got a better send off and nobody really go along with her. :frown:

I think that Eko's burial was a pretty well put together scene...I loved how the light was shining on his grave

I think that Eko's burial was a pretty well put together scene...I loved how the light was shining on his grave
I agree, about the light...and someone posted on another thread that the light ray effect is known as a "Jacob's Ladder", a.k.a. a "Stairway to Heaven".

I like your avatar Dr Do Right! :)

remember when Locke and Desmond were walking back supposedly to the camp to get shovels, Desmond pointed out that Locke wasn't leading them back. Then Locke said that we had a stop to make first. Did they go somewhere before they came back and burried Eko?
It was Locke and Sayid who went to get the shovels. Their other mission was to find Eko's stick so they could bury him with it.

Even so, when Locke and Sayid went off for a while, they could have gone back to the beach and got more people to come. That would have been simple and effective as well.
Yes, I thought so too. They could have quietly informed a few people who would have wanted to be there, like Charlie, and then brought a small group back with them. I wonder if the writers will address this issue in the upcoming episodes? I would think Charlie would naturally be pretty pissed that Locke left him out of something AGAIN, especially when it was Eko - someone Charlie was close to.

It's strange that Eko had no real attachments on the island when he left. Except for Claire and Aaron because he baptized him. But otherwise Ana Lucia and he were the closest, along with Locke who was there at the time of his death, and Charlie for building the church and the hatch implosion.
Claire, Aaron, Ana-Lucia, Locke, and Charlie (and by some accounts Jin) - that's a pretty good group of friends for someone with "no real attachments." :lol:

That's true the way the burial scene was shot was really pretty and memorable. That element to the story was done very well!

Now imagine if you were a good friend of Eko and one day Paulo is playing golf and he casually mentions in his obnoxious tone 'oh by the way, your friend Eko died about a week ago and he's buried somewhere in the jungle, it was really pretty I'm glad I saw it, too bad you weren't there."

Now imagine if you were a good friend of Eko and one day Paulo is playing golf and he casually mentions in his obnoxious tone 'oh by the way, your friend Eko died about a week ago and he's buried somewhere in the jungle, it was really pretty I'm glad I saw it, too bad you weren't there."

lol yea I could actually see that! Like him saying that to Charlie or someone...:mad:

I was a bit sad that the other Lostie couldn't partake int he ceremony, in particular, Charlie and Bernard :(

i know this was posted a while ago but whatever. I agree that its sad charlie couldnt be there- he must have bonded a bit with Mr Eko while building a church. I kinda hope the losties finish it as a tribute to eko. ITs sad though that they dont even know hes dead :-(

They'll all find out eventually, and I'm sure they'll try and visit his grave... after making sure Smokey is gone and all...

i bet mr eko will visit the losties in the following episodes


they have filmed some scenes with him in storage, i think he will "appear" to locke and guide him maybe in next episode

i bet mr eko will visit the losties in the following episodes

they have filmed some scenes with him in storage, i think he will "appear" to locke and guide him maybe in next episode

people do seem to "appear" to locke a lot! haha.

oh and a while ago someone suggested they wanna keep the death a secret...i think that would be a reasonable thought because so much bad had happpened in such a short time (i guess a couple days)...but i actually dont think theywill keep it from them when they get back to the beach

I agree, about the light...and someone posted on another thread that the light ray effect is known as a "Jacob's Ladder", a.k.a. a "Stairway to Heaven".

Jacob = Island God? :undecide:

I hope Charlie repents on what he did to Sun and finishes the church to regain maybe his faith?

Also a nice tribute to Mr. Eko.

that was not actual legit information, so no reason to over-edit my post as spoiler hehehe

i just think that is what will happen