I mean this whole series sawyer has been beat up injured tortured or out of commision from some physical pain.

He wa fine ep 1-8 then the torture and the threat of death, and he had that arm injury until what ep 16 abouts? Then he's ok for awhile then BOOM shoulder shot wound half dead the first 6 eps and oh no he could die! yet again.

now he's healed from that, (but still getting overly beat up) and now they try to make us think hes gonna get it again?

i know that as a pop character its a way to make us all cringe and tune in but its getting old and frankly im really sick of all the bad stuff happening to sawyer! >_<

Definitely. It happens almost every 6 episodes, doesn't it.

I mean this whole series sawyer has been beat up injured tortured or out of commision from some physical pain.

He wa fine ep 1-8 then the torture and the threat of death, and he had that arm injury until what ep 16 abouts? Then he's ok for awhile then BOOM shoulder shot wound half dead the first 6 eps and oh no he could die! yet again.

now he's healed from that, (but still getting overly beat up) and now they try to make us think hes gonna get it again?

i know that as a pop character its a way to make us all cringe and tune in but its getting old and frankly im really sick of all the bad stuff happening to sawyer! >_<

The lower you take the protagonist the greater his eventual victory will be...but yeah you can't take him so low for so long that we pity the guy. That's why I loved when he started kicking butt in Further Instructions.

Not at all! He ruthlessly killed an innocent tree frog!

;)

Yeh, I said many times while watching tonight's episode that I'm tired of Sawyer being a punching bag.

YEP, it's tiresome, I can't decide if TPTB are trying to show us he's indestructable or set us up for his impending death.

YEP, it's tiresome, I can't decide if TPTB are trying to show us he's indestructable or set us up for his impending death.

Bite your tongue!!! :biggrin: Sawyer can't die!

But beyond that, yeah, I agree he does seem to get the short end of the stick on a very regular basis doesn't he? I was really hoping that they wouldn't have his life hanging in the balance again in this finale...

Totally sick of it.

honestly it dosn't bother me that much.

YEP, it's tiresome, I can't decide if TPTB are trying to show us he's indestructable or set us up for his impending death.
Nah, I don't think they'll kill him - that's like taking one of your best dishes off the menu. Though I can't believe they did have me going tonight. :rolleyes:

But I do think they like to show us how tough his character is, and not in a bully kind of way (though a certain tree frog may disagree) - just that he can take a lot of crap and still keep going - makes you start to root for an otherwise a**hole-but-ocassionally-good-hearted character. ;)

I just made a vid with that very same theme, as a matter of fact:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV220ffWFCs

But he looks so good looking as sweaty, dirty and bloody !! lol

Sawyer is fun to beat up because he is so, so, so tough. I don't mind a character getting beat up when they bounce back quickly. What I hate is when a character constantly gets hurt and is whimpy about it and there is tons of drama around the injury. Like for example when Charlie gets punched by Locke a couple of times, he needs stiches :rolleyes: . Sawyer got punched 10 times by a strong man who had just saw his wife die and his wounds are practically healed the next episode. Plus, he was joking about it in the next scene. Sawyer is awesome.

It's not that I like seeing Sawyer getting hurt. But Sawyer recovers so quickly that I don't mind it. Oh and agree with you CrazyMazy, Sawyer looks awesome when he is sweaty and grimey. Bizarre but true.

It's getting predictable. Go beat up on someone else for a change!

YEP, it's tiresome, I can't decide if TPTB are trying to show us he's indestructable or set us up for his impending death.

It's almost comical. It reminds me of the old James Bond spoof from SNL, with (I think) Mike Meyers as the guy from SPECTRE with the cat, telling all of his evil cronies that if they ever catch Bond again to 'just shoot him in the head.'

I understand Danny being a little conflicted, if he is supposed to be a 'good person' and not a killer, but if he really wants revenge, get it over with.

Of course, a point that I do not think has been discussed, is that why is he so mad at 'them?' Just because 'one of them' killed his wife? He does know what happened, right? They didn't sneak into their camp and kill her. The 'Others' were in the process of committing an act of piracy on the high seas. Which, if I am not mistaken, is justification for using deadly force in your own defense.

Just my $0.02. I'll get off my soap box now.

I don't want the character off the show but to be honest these stuff has desensitized me to it so much that I have reached the point where I don't CARE if he lives or dies.

Harsh but true. Either kill him or stop with the "Sawyer in great peril' endings.

If they kill him, that's it, i'm not watching anymore & I am demanding my money back for the DVDs! I Heart Sawyer!

Oh yeah I had had enough of Sawyer being a punching bad about 3 weeks ago.

I think it's just setting it up so when Sawyer finally beats the crap outta that guy it'll be all the much better.

I think it's just setting it up so when Sawyer finally beats the crap outta that guy it'll be all the much better.

I don't mind if they do that...just please stop the fake "Oh no will Sawyer make it? ' scares.

I agree with Elf. I am not neccessairly sick of Sawyer getting beat up, but the "*GASP* OH NO SAWYER'S LIFE HANGS IN THE BALANCE!!!" things have got to stop. boring and predictable. We all know that he will not get killed off. Even people that I know that watch but don't beling to the internet message boards are starting to roll their eyes when they see another scene like this.

Nah, I don't think they'll kill him - that's like taking one of your best dishes off the menu. Though I can't believe they did have me going tonight. :rolleyes:

But I do think they like to show us how tough his character is, and not in a bully kind of way (though a certain tree frog may disagree) - just that he can take a lot of crap and still keep going - makes you start to root for an otherwise a**hole-but-ocassionally-good-hearted character. ;)

I just made a vid with that very same theme, as a matter of fact:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV220ffWFCs

Awesome video and so true!!! I have posted ad nauseum about Sawyer getting hurt and him being crippled by the time he gets off the island since after the eppy "Adrift" so everyne pretty much knows how I feel about that. :) He does take a lickin' and keep on tickin' though doesn't he?? :biggrin:

Cant stand it. First season sawyer got his *** handed to him on a plate repeatedly, 2nd season hes gets more of the same. £rd season he somehow turns into some mega nija expert, but is still threatened with death constantly...jeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzz

Im an angst freak, but this just doesnt work for me for 2 reasons.
Yeah, I like Sawyer, but there are some thigns that he has done that make me think, well so what if he dies! As much as I like the character, hes a nasty peice of work, yeah he has his reasons, but hes still not a nice guy.

2/ theres no impact to it anymore, Sawyer is the resident punch bag. we're so used to seeing it, it has no meaning now.

3/ Now if Jack suddenly got beaten half to death, that would give us something! Jack is my fave character, and I love him to bits...but a little bit of peril wouldnt go amis would it? (In the words of Monty Python...lol)

Angie
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Maybe it's just me...but I would LOVE to see Sawyer get MEDIEVAL ON PICKETT... Have him grab the pickaxe from Kate and just plant it right in Pickett's coconut.

When I was a kid (as looonngg time ago), my brother had this punching bag/doll that you'd bop, and it would pop right back up again. It was called "Palooka Joe," which I think might be a nice new nickname for Sawyer! :biggrin:

I think its kind of ridiculous, but funny none the less, because no matter what they throw at him, he still keeps coming back for more. Running gag between Holloway, and the producers? Anyone?

I'm tired of Sawyer getting beat up, tortured etc. Its Kate's turn. If Kate were the one being beat up and Sawyer doing the begging I suspect it would've been much more effective inducement to Jack.

I'm also getting tired of seeing him get hurt... I feel sorry for him, mostly... the one thing I'm truly waiting and hoping for is to see him annihilate Picket... for good. Yes.

When I was a kid (as looonngg time ago), my brother had this punching bag/doll that you'd bop, and it would pop right back up again. It was called "Palooka Joe," which I think might be a nice new nickname for Sawyer! :biggrin:

I had one of these dudes myself - wish I still did, it was unbelievably satisfying to take my frustrations out on some smiling bozo who'd bounce right back for more;) I'm all for dubbing Sawyer Palooka Joe!

I'm hoping that
Sawyer and Kate's escape, as seen in the preview for February, occurs after
Sawyer gives Pickett one hell of a beating!


ETA: I'm actually not positive it was called Palooka Joe - I think that's a comic book character?

When I was a kid (as looonngg time ago), my brother had this punching bag/doll that you'd bop, and it would pop right back up again. It was called "Palooka Joe," which I think might be a nice new nickname for Sawyer! :biggrin:

snicker.....snicker....

I have a lot of problems with Sawyer getting beaten up all the time.

For one, I chat with people on other boards who are casual viewers, not die hard fans like here, and they are sickened by the violence this year and have stopped watching. If too many viewers drop off, the show will get cancelled.

For someone who has been hit as many times as Sawyer, he just doesn't look hurt enough. Ever look at a boxer after a losing bout in the ring? His face is bloated, his eyes are swollen shut, his nose is a couple of inches to the right or left of center, he has cauliflower ears and but for the mouthpiece would probably be missing teeth. Sawyer has no swelling, no fractured bones, nothing but a few bloody abrasions and looks just as handsome as ever. He's living in a cage at the zoo but his wounds never get infected and he never runs a fever. He even feels good enough to have a little roll in the hay with Freckles. Sawyer should look like the Scorpio killer after Dirty Harry got through with him.

It's boring. It happens week in and week out, over and over and over with no apparent rhyme or reason. Last year, we could at least understand why AL treated him the way she did. With no explanation as to why Pickett has it in for him (and it's not because of Colleen because Pickett already had it in for him before she died,) then the story can't move forward. If TPTB are not ready to reveal the big secret to move the story forward, just stop showing it, or have Kate remark, "Well, he punched you again," and move on to something else.

Sawyer is a fascinating character - a traumatized child, accomplished con man but not so accomplished that he can't be duped. He is cold and calculating but given to bursts of sincere kindness. TPTB spent two years setting that up and have now completely wasted it by treating him as nothing but a punching bag for season 3. It just doesn't make sense.

I don't think the solution is to beat up Kate or beat up Jack for a change (although I'd like to see Pickett get his.) I think the solution is to get off this stupid Hydra Island and move the story forward.

I don't want the character off the show but to be honest these stuff has desensitized me to it so much that I have reached the point where I don't CARE if he lives or dies.

Harsh but true. Either kill him or stop with the "Sawyer in great peril' endings.

I'm with you! At the end of this episode I actually said "oh, for the love of Pete, shoot him already!" I mean, talk about boys who cry wolf.

And I agree with posters who don't understand Danny's rage. Maybe because Sawyer is the only Lostie he *can* act out upon (with Kate being a woman and Jack needed to perform surgery), but c'mon. If he was so concerned about his wife why did he send her below deck *alone* to confront Sun in the first place?

ETA: I'm actually not positive it was called Palooka Joe - I think that's a comic book character?

I asked my Dear Bro, and he confirms the name Palooka Joe. He's a total comic book geek, and says it's an homage to a comic character-- so, we're both right! And I almost called it Bazooka Joe, so I'm REALLY dating myself! :rolleyes:

You know, I dont understand why Pickett doesnt threaten to shoot Kate. I mean kill the woman Sawyer (and probably Jack) loves to make him (them) feel the same pain Pickett did in losing Colleen. Only points to my belief that Kate is needed for something else and Pickett seems to think Sawyer is expendable in one way or another.
Anyway, to answer the question...YES!! I am totally sick of Sawyer being a punching bag.

I actually DO think they've spent a little too much time treating Sawyer as a human punching bag. It gets hard to watch...you just wish it was someone else's turn ;) j/k. I'm not really scared he'll die anymore...and maybe I should be because he's my favourite character...but they seem to use threats against HIM as the ultimate scare...so they must think he's got a lot of fans. But it does have the effect of not actually being scary anymore ;)

But I do think it actually makes sense why Sawyer would be the most beat-up person on the island though. In this extreme situation...people fighting to survive, feeling trapped...etc. people are just looking at someone to take it out on. And Sawyer makes himself an easy target. People are feeling helpess, emotional, angry...and there's Sawyer with a sacrastic comment, a smirk and a clever nickname. When they need someone to attack to let out their emotions...he's the first person they remember.

When Sawyer got tortured in CM, it was because Jack was frustrated he couldn't help Shannon...and Sayid needed someone to blame for his equipment being broken. They both convinced themselves that because he was acting like a dick...he must be guilty...and therefore letting their anger out of him was justified.

When Ana Lucia felt threatened by newcomers to her side of the island, when she needed to regain control and make sure they knew she was in charge...Sawyer was the only one challenging her...making comments, questioning things. She beat him because she needed to prove to others (and to herself) that she was in control

When Hurley was losing his grip on reality...Sawyer was in his face mocking him...and Hurley just jumped him and started wailing. He was just fed up with everything...and feeling like he was nuts...and every nasty comment Sawyer ever made to him suddenly became the catalyst for his explosion

And when Pickett's wife got shot...and he was fuming...wishing he could hurt the people who did this...why not take it out on the sleazy con-man wisecracker who was giving him a hard time. He needed someone to blame and Sawyer was right there.

It happens a lot...and I really think it's because Sawyer's bad attitude allows people to justify what they're doing. They think that he deserves it on some level...so letting their frustrations out on him isn't wrong.

That's a very good exposition of things...and a very detailed insightful analysis. I think you are right.

However most viewers don't take things like that into consideration. All they know is what they see. Its gotten to the point where casual viwers are rolling their eyes and saying "Here we go..again!"

He's not going to die unless Josh Holloway wants off the show. That's a fact of life and by now I think most viewers have caught on. I think that is also part of the "Oh just kill him already and put this overplayed scenario out of MY misery'

Having said all that I really don't want the character off the show. I just want them to stop this 'thing' that they are doing. :D

That's a very good exposition of things...and a very detailed insightful analysis. I think you are right.

However most viewers don't take things like that into consideration. All they know is what they see. Its gotten to the point where casual viwers are rolling their eyes and saying "Here we go..again!"

He's not going to die unless Josh Holloway wants off the show. That's a fact of life and by now I think most viewers have caught on. I think that is also part of the "Oh just kill him already and put this overplayed scenario out of MY misery'

Having said all that I really don't want the character off the show. I just want them to stop this 'thing' that they are doing. :D

Oh I totally agree about the whole "Sawyer in mortal peril" thing. Again...it doesn't really scare anyone anymore...so it's wasted as device to create tension. On the raft...in the jungle from his wound...and now by being 'shot'. It's lost it's meaning.

I was just commenting on him being beaten up a lot making sense to me :). The threat of death needs to stop...but I don't mind the continued use of him as a human punching bag.

Well I mean I hate to watch it...but it's great character stuff...;)

Its gotten to the point where casual viwers are rolling their eyes and saying "Here we go..again!"
You don't know if casual viewers are rolling their eyes. :rolleyes: You're entitled to your opinion and to roll your own eyes of course. But I think you should speak for yourself and not present your opinion as if it is the opinion of millions of casual viewers. You couldn't possibly know if millions of people roll their eyes or not. :rolleyes:

Yeh, I said many times while watching tonight's episode that I'm tired of Sawyer being a punching bag.

Not only am I getting tired of seeing Sawyer suffer but I am sick of this Pickett character. I have disliked all of the Characters that actor plays starting with Tommy in Valley Girl. He beat up Nicholas Cage a couple of times. I just hope he gets kicked around when Sawer and Kate get out. It would even be better if he got beat up by his own crew..

.

Well I mean I hate to watch it...but it's great character stuff...;)


Will anything come of it I wonder? Will he get to beat up Pickett? Will it finally get the 'self hate' out of his system? If they are going somewhere with it..that's fine. I just wish they would 'get there' soon. ;)

I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I don't see a more specific thread -- I've read a few times people saying that Sawyer was ready to sacrifice his life for Kate in this episode. I watched it again and didn't quite get it -- do they mean at the very end when it's Sawyer's hand round Pickett's neck vs. Pickett's gun on Sawyer, and Kate's screaming at him to Fight? Who do you think would win that fight (hint: gun).

I mean, Sawyer's gotten beaten up a lot this season in Kate's presence, but I didn't see him stepping between her and an attacker to make that mentioned sacrifice. Is there something else I missed?

I don't want the character off the show but to be honest these stuff has desensitized me to it so much that I have reached the point where I don't CARE if he lives or dies.

Harsh but true. Either kill him or stop with the "Sawyer in great peril' endings.
Same situation led me to my original name Kill_Walt, because I got tired of the constant whining by Michael. Not that I hated him just could not take it any more. But in an effort to rejoin the 'fuse', after a brief expulsion, my name is what it is...

I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I don't see a more specific thread -- I've read a few times people saying that Sawyer was ready to sacrifice his life for Kate in this episode. I watched it again and didn't quite get it -- do they mean at the very end when it's Sawyer's hand round Pickett's neck vs. Pickett's gun on Sawyer, and Kate's screaming at him to Fight? Who do you think would win that fight (hint: gun).

I mean, Sawyer's gotten beaten up a lot this season in Kate's presence, but I didn't see him stepping between her and an attacker to make that mentioned sacrifice. Is there something else I missed?

Yes, I think they feel because Sawyer gave up his struggle with Pickett because Kate was threatened that he risked his life for her. However, the risk to his life was already there regardless of what was happening with Kate. I suppose he could have choked Pickett to death before he was shot.

I don't recall him actually stepping between Kate and an attacker. On the contrary, I remember Kate stepping in front and begging Pickett not to do it.

Sort of interesting how Sawyer has become the "damsel in distress" in this arc.

Well, I think that if Sawyer stopped with the insults and wise-cracks and stopped putting himself on the Other's radar every time he opens his mouth, he probably wouldn't have gotten nearly the number of beatings he got in this arc.

The fact that someone (anyone) always wants to kick the crap out of Sawyer pretty much says it all.

Yes, I think they feel because Sawyer gave up his struggle with Pickett because Kate was threatened that he risked his life for her. However, the risk to his life was already there regardless of what was happening with Kate. I suppose he could have choked Pickett to death before he was shot..



Yes, that is true that his life was already threatened, but he was putting up a fight/struggle with Pickett and only stopped when he threatened Kate. Whenever someone threatened Kate, Juliet, Ben or Pickett, he backed down. I would assume, that if he didn't threaten to "do her too"that Sawyer wouldn't have just given up.

To keep this post on topic, yes I'm sick of them threatening Sawyer. It seems like an running joke or an empty threat at this point cause at no point during this mini arc did I think that Sawyer was going to die. Every time I see a promo with Sawyer being tortured or beaten or a gun held at his head, I just roll my eyes cause its lost its meaning. They have done it too much for it to mean anything

I'm sick of everyone beating on Sawyer. My friend and I made a list of people that had hit Saywer the other day : Jack, Kate, Sayid, Charlie, Ben, Pickett, Eko, and Ana Lucia (x3). Sawyer's clearly a pro fighter, people just abuse his injuries. I think there should be more scenes like the rifle taking scene in the Glass Ballerina. It's getting old that Sawyer's so defenceless....

I'm not really sick of it or anything. But then again, I've never liked Sawyer. I've disliked him since episode one. I kind of enjoy it to be honest :undecide:

I'm sick of everyone beating on Sawyer. My friend and I made a list of people that had hit Saywer the other day : Jack, Kate, Sayid, Charlie, Ben, Pickett, Eko, and Ana Lucia (x3). Sawyer's clearly a pro fighter, people just abuse his injuries. I think there should be more scenes like the rifle taking scene in the Glass Ballerina. It's getting old that Sawyer's so defenceless....

I know.. it's either a ploy to gain our sympathies, a ploy to make us feel Sawyer is safe before they kill him (I really don't think so) or a ploy to try to move Lost to the daytime tv slot.

Sawyer's not fighting to save Kate's life and being the hero - he's given up and is just waiting to be killed. Kate has to scream at him to get him to fight. I know who I would pick between Jack and Sawyer - here's Jack laying himself on the line to save 2 other people, and Sawyer, who doesn't give a crap what happens to Kate and Jack after he sits around feeling sorry for himself.

As for people who say they are tired of Sawyer being the punching bag - have you forgotten that Sawyer isn't exactly the nicest guy and perhaps he brings more than a little on himself? I seem to recall him withholding medicine from Shannon when she was in distress, guns from the losties when they were afraid for their lives, killing tree frogs, forcing Kate to kiss him in order to get something needed for someone's well-being, etc. Not to mention the fact that he's a con man who hurts those who get close to him, has murdered a tree frog and A PERSON!! I think this is a big ole' case of "It'll come back around." Karma is painful.

Will anything come of it I wonder? Will he get to beat up Pickett? Will it finally get the 'self hate' out of his system? If they are going somewhere with it..that's fine. I just wish they would 'get there' soon. ;)


I had that thought too, Elfdream. I think or at least hope that he finally realizes that he has worth and it's okay to be "worthy". While he's done some truly reprehensible things, he's also stood up for others (despite himself) and has taken a heck of beating - literally and figuratively.
Like you, I am ready for the light bulb to come on though in his head and for them get on with it.

We will stop seeing/hearing threats on James' life after the final eppy of LOST airs! Being a punching bag is, apparently, part of who James is. They won't stop. Maybe let up a little for an eppy here, a story there. But not stop.

TPTB and the LOST writers are "hurt James" addicts! :eek:

I know.. it's either a ploy to gain our sympathies, a ploy to make us feel Sawyer is safe before they kill him (I really don't think so) or a ploy to try to move Lost to the daytime tv slot.

IMO it's more of a ploy for those who are "tired" of seeing it... They will push it one too many times and then BANG! He's down for the count this time and everyone will be going, "Is he dead?" "NO! ( OR - FINALLY! for those who hate the character) "He can't be! It's Saywer - he never dies!" Surprise.:undecide:

Sawyer's not fighting to save Kate's life and being the hero - he's given up and is just waiting to be killed. Kate has to scream at him to get him to fight. I know who I would pick between Jack and Sawyer - here's Jack laying himself on the line to save 2 other people, and Sawyer, who doesn't give a crap what happens to Kate and Jack after he sits around feeling sorry for himself.

We don't know how this scene plays out yet... Maybe it's a "con". Maybe he truly believes this is it...

As for people who say they are tired of Sawyer being the punching bag - have you forgotten that Sawyer isn't exactly the nicest guy and perhaps he brings more than a little on himself? I seem to recall him withholding medicine from Shannon when she was in distress, guns from the losties when they were afraid for their lives, killing tree frogs, forcing Kate to kiss him in order to get something needed for someone's well-being, etc. Not to mention the fact that he's a con man who hurts those who get close to him, has murdered a tree frog and A PERSON!! I think this is a big ole' case of "It'll come back around." Karma is painful.

No, he won't be voted "Mr. Congeniality" but he doesn't deserve to be beaten. Just like Kate's Dad didn't deserve to be blown up, Tom didn't deserve to be killed when Kate was on the run, Sawyer's Mother didn't deserve to be shot by his Father, etc.

BTW - he didn't withhold medicine from Shannon. REMEMBER - he never had the medicine to begin with. He was assumed to have the meds.

And I'm not resorting to the Ship stuff - but Kate wasn't forced to do anything that Kate didn't want to do. (I suggest you go back and watch that episode again...It's called Confidence Man - Disc 2)

Murdered a Tree Frog?? *sigh*

Ok, I like Sawyer, and I always have. But seriously, the let's-beat-up-sawyer-every-episode thing is getting a little out of hand.

I accept that he's not been the nicest person ever, both pre- and post- crash, but honestly I think there's some mitigating circumstances in his childhood. He might not be a saint but a) he wouldn't be interesting if he was and b) even Sawyer doesn't deserve the treatment he's getting.

Maybe we could have Let's-beat-up-Jack instead. (apologies to any Jack shippers. I'm going off him a bit - he just irritates me. and really needs a good smack in the mouth.)

And I agree with GettinLost. Calling the killing of a tree frog "murder" is a bit much.

(final thought: although it would be nice for them to leave the poor boy alone for a while, seeing Hurley, of all people, attack him was funny.)

I'm sick of everyone beating on Sawyer. My friend and I made a list of people that had hit Saywer the other day : Jack, Kate, Sayid, Charlie, Ben, Pickett, Eko, and Ana Lucia (x3). Sawyer's clearly a pro fighter, people just abuse his injuries. I think there should be more scenes like the rifle taking scene in the Glass Ballerina. It's getting old that Sawyer's so defenceless....

Don't forget Hurley! If even "funtime" Hurley wants a piece of you, you've clearly established yourself as a complete a-hole :) Especially if the mere sight of Hurley beating you brings a smile to Jin's face as he watches! That scene still makes me laugh.

Back on topic - in the final minutes of I Do, my friends and I had two opposite, yet equally felt annoyed reactions to the threatenting of Sawyer's life.


ho-hum. even if he does die (which I don't think they'll ever do, he's too beloved a character), I'm desentitized to the prospect of Sawyer dying because the show threatens it at least twice season - much like Charlie's never-ending heroin temptations/"did he go back" questions, its time for the character to either evolve, move one, and find new material, or simply DIE as a result of this theme that has become his entire purpose on the show.
Finally - kill him already, stop just threatenting it! (and we like Sawyer!)

To answer the OP's question: Yes. It's boring, dry, and unless they're actually going to go through with it, it's old.

I agree with you, it seems like every few weeks they threaten Sawyer's life-in season 2 he almost died from the infection he got from the gun shot wound-it's enough already.
Whats more annoying is that we KNOW they arent going to kill him off. If they did I'd be very impressed with the writing. To me, killing Eko was a cop out and no big deal.
It just said to me that they ran out of storylines for the Tail end survivors. The only one left is Bernard Rose's husband.

Well since you asked I'd like for them to just "do It" already and off him.


note; I'm not trying to spur anyone... just answering the question.:rolleyes:

Nah, I don't think they'll kill him - that's like taking one of your best dishes off the menu. Though I can't believe they did have me going tonight. :rolleyes:

But I do think they like to show us how tough his character is, and not in a bully kind of way (though a certain tree frog may disagree) - just that he can take a lot of crap and still keep going - makes you start to root for an otherwise a**hole-but-ocassionally-good-hearted character. ;)

I just made a vid with that very same theme, as a matter of fact:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV220ffWFCs

Hey TRoss, I loved your video and thought it was hilarious! Kudos :ntworthy:. But as far as the Sawyer situation, I'm so over the bad things happening to him. It needs to stop asap or they need to just kill him and get it over with. I don't want to see Sawyer go, however am sick of this :mad:!

Well, if our choice is to "kill him" or "beat him"...

Then they can beat him all day as far as I am concerned!! He can become the "Whack-a-Mole" of the Island!!!

And you are right "I Loves Lost"!! TRoss's video is one of the best examples of Sawyer risin to the top!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV220ffWFCs

I'm pimpin' your vid for ya!!!

Awsome video!!!:)

Love the Sawyer vid!! Especially the "Son of a..." series! LMAO! Maybe we should start calling Sawyer "Chumbawumba?"

*hic*

I wish they would just finish him off already, put him out of his self-inflicted misery. Once the girls had sex they were off the show, maybe it is a boy's turn...

Love the Sawyer vid!! Especially the "Son of a..." series! LMAO! Maybe we should start calling Sawyer "Chumbawumba?"

*hic*

Well hiccup - Chumbawumba would be one thing I might call him... There are other terms of endearment that come to mind, however... :naughty:

One more time for TRoss!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV220ffWFCs


Viva le Sawyer!!

That was a great clip TRoss!!!!

TRoss, that was totally awesome. And yes love the SOB scenes and of course the "put on some clothes" moment. :biggrin:

Will anything come of it I wonder? Will he get to beat up Pickett? Will it finally get the 'self hate' out of his system? If they are going somewhere with it..that's fine. I just wish they would 'get there' soon. ;)

I realize I'm responding to a comment made ages ago...lol...but actually I meant character stuff for OTHER characters...not Sawyer. I think when people beat up on him...it says more about their own state of mind. And it's an interesting struggle from their perspective...very revealing in my opinion :)

Well hiccup - Chumbawumba would be one thing I might call him... There are other terms of endearment that come to mind, however... :naughty:

One more time for TRoss!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV220ffWFCs


Viva le Sawyer!!

Great video! Thanks for the link.

I realize I'm responding to a comment made ages ago...lol...but actually I meant character stuff for OTHER characters...not Sawyer. I think when people beat up on him...it says more about their own state of mind. And it's an interesting struggle from their perspective...very revealing in my opinion :)


I can see that...but can't they take turns beating up on other people and still enhance their character developement? :D