Well, I always had this idea in my mind that Sayid was a Man of Faith, not a Man of Science. Didn't we see him praying during "Live Together, Die Alone"? His statement on tonight's episode was a bit odd to me.

Well, I always had this idea in my mind that Sayid was a Man of Faith, not a Man of Science. Didn't we see him praying during "Live Together, Die Alone"? His statement on tonight's episode was a bit odd to me.

Have you never met a scientist that is Christian?

The statement did seem a little out of character to me too. But I think that all of the characters have been through so much on the island (especially Sayid) that they're a little skeptical about what's right or what's real. Sayid has heard the whispers and seen Walt in the jungle. If i were him I would probably be questioning myself. The line past reality must seem sort of blurred. I think "believe it when I see it" is probably a good philosophy to base judgements on.

My husband was a little odded out by this one as well. But I've always kind of seen Sayid as having a little bit of the faith aspect. I mean the way he knew Henry Gale was lying was b/c he didn't 'feel' bad after he had done all those horrible things to him. Grounded in science, but with that little something extra.

With Locke and Sayid, they've each seen such different things during their experience of the Island. They could really benefit each other by sharing those experiences.

I don't think Sayid is one to take things on faith alone. He's cautious so as not to be screwed over again.

Have you never met a scientist that is Christian?
Not one without faith. For you to have faith you must believe what you can't see. If all you believe is only what you can see, then I think you have no faith at all. And without faith, one can't be christian. A christian don't see a god, but he believes it, anyway. The same goes to the muslims, I think.

Well, I always had this idea in my mind that Sayid was a Man of Faith, not a Man of Science. Didn't we see him praying during "Live Together, Die Alone"? His statement on tonight's episode was a bit odd to me.
I was totally confused by this statement too! I mean, I assume Sayid has never actually SEEN Allah, but yet he prays to Allah, right? What kind of statement was that for a man of faith? (meaning, not an atheist) :shrug:

Not one without faith. For you to have faith you must believe what you can't see. If all you believe is only what you can see, then I think you have no faith at all. And without faith, one can't be christian. A christian don't see a god, but he believes it, anyway. The same goes to the muslims, I think.

Agreed, so what's the problem with Sayid having the logic of science, measuring what can be measured and seen, aswell as having a faith in religion?

Agreed, so what's the problem with Sayid having the logic of science, measuring what can be measured and seen, aswell as having a faith in religion?

No problem at all.. But it just felt out of character to me.. As someone above have posted, he had never seen Allah, but he prays to Allah nonetheless.. I don't know.. But I guess we don't compare God to polar bears killing Eko... But that's what he meant... Maybe he was just skeptical about Locke's story after all...

Originally Posted by fourthpoliceman
Have you never met a scientist that is Christian?

I've met a scientist who is Christian...I don't think it's an impossibility to be both.

Not one without faith. For you to have faith you must believe what you can't see. If all you believe is only what you can see, then I think you have no faith at all. And without faith, one can't be christian. A christian don't see a god, but he believes it, anyway. The same goes to the muslims, I think.

Yes, I agree that one of the "proofs" of faith is that you have to believe in what youcan't see...
but I think I can have faith in other things outside of Christianity and that doesn't make me a "bad" or "unfaithful" Christian.
No, I've never seen God, and I still believe in him....
and I've never seen a ghost, and I haven't decided if I believe in them or not. But I've also never seen the Andromeda Galaxy... :)

I've met a scientist who is Christian...I don't think it's an impossibility to be both.

lol. actually, I know many MDs/scientists who ARE christians, muslims, etc... I'm kinda doing a 180 on it, because Weeping Buddha started this tread and more or less STOLE ;) my previous post from the other thread.
But like I said in the other thread, I think it's a contradiction to be both.

and more or less STOLE my previous post from the other thread.

LOL...isn't that always the way? :)

Even if we disagree on this point, I love exploring the possibilities of it all. Such fun to discuss and to see others' points of view, even if we never agree. It's the discussion that's the important thing; it's another way to enjoy the show.

LOL...isn't that always the way? :)

Even if we disagree on this point, I love exploring the possibilities of it all. Such fun to discuss and to see others' points of view, even if we never agree. It's the discussion that's the important thing; it's another way to enjoy the show.


I'm glad to hear that some here are open to discussion without taking things too personally. Now, I still do think it's a contradiction in beliefs! lol.

Now, I still do think it's a contradiction in beliefs! lol.

LOL...I heard you, I heard you! :)
100%
P.S... of course I don't take it personally.... I don't write the show! :)
But seriously, I'm here to have fun, not discord.

We humans are full of contradictions, and just because Sayid is showing a contradiction doesn't mean he's out of character.

Sayid's a technician and a soldier, not a scientist. He is showing skepticism. You can show skepticism without affecting your religious faith. Faith doesn't mean that you trust 100% of what you are exposed to, nor does it mean you believe all that you are told.

One must have the ability to measure truth from lies. When someone says, "I'll believe it when I see it," it's just the healthy skeptic in them talking. You can have a skeptical Muslim, a wary Christian, a cautious Buddhist, and that doesn't mean their faith is any less pure.

And I think this skepticism is especially fitting after what Sayid had been through. In fact, I just realized it wasn't until the end of the 2nd season that we saw him with his prayer mat. I interpret this as a moment where he needed to turn to his faith for strength, for a difficult task ahead.


:)