the anagram that the producers mentioned?

discuss.

Between that and the Brief History of Time... I think we're rapidly heading for the "brain frying moment".

In German, Mittellos means "without means, destitute", which kinda reflects on Juliet before a certain bus comes along.

Interesting...lost time...VERY interesting. There are lots of possible interpretations for that...

Between that and the Brief History of Time... I think we're rapidly heading for the "brain frying moment".

Indeed, they are building up for a moment about time!

My first thought was Mittlework, the guy from the LE this summer... is "Mittleos" something to do with him or a front for Hanso?

Going along with the time theory, maybe it has something to do with Desmond and not being in the same time frame as the other survivors?

remember hurley and sayid on the beach with the radio and hurley said that the soundwaves could travel through time.

Mittelos.org is owned by Richard Alpert. Here's the Wikipedia entry on that name:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Dass

Definitely sounds "Lostish."

mittelos bioscience has a web site ethan and juliet are listed as execuitves as is alpert
Ethans qoute is from dostoevsky

I kind of like the idea of Lost Time amogst the characters...


Juliet has lost time from being separated from her sister

Mittelos.org is owned by Richard Alpert. Here's the Wikipedia entry on that name:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Dass

Definitely sounds "Lostish."

Of course! Alpert is Ram Dass! A brilliant observation. And there have been many hints about Time anomalies from TPTB.. something big is definitely coming. turn on.. tune in.. ;)

BrownEyedGirl,
I definitely agree on the "Lost Time" idea. So much so, in fact, that I just, rather embarrassingly, started the exact same thread. :redface:
I've closed it straight up and put in a link to this one though.

Does anyone else get the feeling though that that anagram might be a Red Herring. It just seemed so obvious anyway, and then that they gave us a heads up before the episode. And then the book. It all seems very uncharacteristic for Lost. I mean, I'd got it before the ep even aired, just from reading a Spoiler and a comment from TPTB. Maybe there's another more subtle anagram in there. Or am I just being paranoid?

Does anyone else get the feeling though that that anagram might be a Red Herring. It just seemed so obvious anyway, and then that they gave us a heads up before the episode. And then the book. It all seems very uncharacteristic for Lost. I mean, I'd got it before the ep even aired, just from reading a Spoiler and a comment from TPTB. Maybe there's another more subtle anagram in there. Or am I just being paranoid?
Didn't TPTB say in the last pod/videocast that the anagram clue in this episode related to Adam and Eve that were found in the caves? The passage of time would sure work in there. Or am I mixing up two statements?

Didn't TPTB say in the last pod/videocast that the anagram clue in this episode related to Adam and Eve that were found in the caves? The passage of time would sure work in there. Or am I mixing up two statements?
No, I'm pretty sure they implicitly stated that there would be an anagram in this episode that would relate directly back to Adam & Eve. How "lost time" relates to them, or the bag with the black & white stones in it, I don't know.

In Season 1 when a zillion theories were being thrown about, TPTB stated that there was no time travel. I took that to mean there were no "wrinkles in time" or Philadelphia Experiment type time jumps so if this idea goes there, I'm going to be really ticked off! :mad:

I've been thinking though that there is something on the island that affects the MINDS of the Losties - altering their PERCEPTION of time. They may feel as if time is passing much more slowly than it really is. Remember, Danielle was very shocked when Sayid said her message had been playing for 16 years.

Maybe Juliet hasn't REALLY been on the island for 3 years. It may have only been about 6 months but to her the passage of time has felt much longer. And if they are experiencing time lasting longer, does that mean their bodies age appropriately so that their physical age no longer matches up with their biological age???

How does a 26-year-old woman have the womb of a 70-year-old? Was she an inhabitant of the island? When you leave the island, does time seem to speed up? I suppose all of this ties in to those life-extending experiments at the Hanso Foundation too. Maybe the experiment gave up on actually extending life and is now working on affecting the mind to BELIEVE time is being slowed - thus extending the years you PERCEIVE to have left. This could tie in with the "sickness" - Losties infected start to "lose track of time" i.e. lost time.

You know, I agree to that to a certain extent. But, I feel like this episode had a lot of "gimmie" clues that were put there for the purpose of getting people back in to the mindset that they were before this season started.

I mean, let's face it, it used to be that, for days after an episode aired, it was nearly impossible to get on to this site because of all the speculation and theorizing going on. It hasn't been like that in a VERY long time. Today was the first time since the first episode of this season that I actually got the "Server Busy" error.

I agree that it seems almost TOO easy a clue, but I think it was put in to bring people back in to the mindset of exploration, in regards to the storyline.

Just my opinion, of course.

No, I'm pretty sure they implicitly stated that there would be an anagram in this episode that would relate directly back to Adam & Eve. How "lost time" relates to them, or the bag with the black & white stones in it, I don't know.


Your theories on perception of time are really interesting. About the black and white stones, it made me think of the yin/yang symbol on the lamp by Juliet's sister in "Not in Portland", and also the black & white pieces of the backgammon game on the island. I'm sure a whole thread could be on the black/white topic, and there probably is, but I don't know because I just joined The Fuselage, haha. The whole yin/yang, good/bad thing is interesting though.

To have a bag that contains both a black and white stone could represent that each
person has potential good/bad in them. Each character seems to have that, there is no "all good" or "all bad" character.

Maybe I went off topic, but oh well. I'm too lazy to care, haha.

-aurynwisher

MITTELOS = I M LOST E.T

HE MUST PHONE HOME (but connections been down since this guy started turning purple...)

Your theories on perception of time are really interesting. About the black and white stones, it made me think of the yin/yang symbol on the lamp by Juliet's sister in "Not in Portland", and also the black & white pieces of the backgammon game on the island.

Maybe I went off topic, but oh well. I'm too lazy to care, haha.

-aurynwisher

I'm off topic as well, but your message made me think of Claires vision with Lockes black & white eyes in 'Raised by Another'.

As for the Lost Time anagram, I'm buggered if I know. We'll all have a slap forehead moment when it's revealed.

In German, Mittellos means "without means,destitute", which kinda reflects on Juliet before a certain bus comes along.


Cool find! So the name has a double meaning, most of the characters seem to have been "destitute" in their previous life, dealing with some very emotional issues, perhaps "lost and destitute" people is who Mittelos is seeking out and recruiting for their studies.

Maybe all of the people that Mittelos wanted ended up on the same plane, through the Law of Attraction?

I've been thinking though that there is something on the island that affects the MINDS of the Losties - altering their PERCEPTION of time. They may feel as if time is passing much more slowly than it really is.

I suppose all of this ties in to those life-extending experiments at the Hanso Foundation too. Maybe the experiment gave up on actually extending life and is now working on affecting the mind to BELIEVE time is being slowed - thus extending the years you PERCEIVE to have left. This could tie in with the "sickness" - Losties infected start to "lose track of time" i.e. lost time.
Your theories on perception of time are really interesting.
-aurynwisher
If you want interesting,
you should Google: alter perception of time brain
I found some really interesting neurological studies researching how the brain perceives the passage of time and what can be done to alter it.

Check this out:

Teach your brain to stretch time (http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18925371.700)
".... if for some reason we disengage attention from the clock, our sense of time can go astray. This accounts for the old adage that "time flies when you're having fun", or more accurately, "time flies when you are focusing on something other than the passage of time". It is equally possible to push the clock in the other direction. At last year's meeting of the Society for Neuroscience in Washington DC, the Dalai Lama gave a talk to the assembled neuroscientists on how time seems to slow down during meditation, as you focus away from the internal clock. Yet when you surface from meditation, he said, you think more time has passed than actually has...."

Can you alter your perception of time? (http://darrenlb.wordpress.com/2006/11/28/can-you-alter-your-perception-of-time/)
"....certain drugs can change our perception of time. Psychologists call such an effect ‘tachypsychia’, while martial arts experts call it the Tachy Psyche effect. Maybe in the future safe, non-addictive drugs will be developed to allow us to deliberately change our perception of time. These effects can also be induced by a traumatic event of physical exertion, such as involvement in a violent confrontation. It may even be a natural response that our ancestors evolved to help them escape danger. If you can slow down your perception of time, then you can react quicker to being attacked by a predator...." (perhaps why Ethan was such a formidable opponent? he learned to slow his perception of time & movement so he could react quicker to a punch?)

"Another example of our perception of time being altered is as we age: most people report that as they get older, time seems to pass more quickly...." (hmmm, another "aging" issue - sounds Hanso-ish to me! :biggrin: )


“Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.” - Buddha
There was a Buddha in the brainwashing video, and another one in the painting in Widmore's office. If we want to go back in seasons, I'm sure we could find plenty more - I know of at least one in Season 1 when Jin and Sun were making plans to marry.


If you really want to fry your brain, try and comprehend Australian Aboriginal Dreamtime:

"Similarly, the Australian aborigines have a concept of time that has been called the ‘dreamtime’. This is not actually a reference to a mythical past, as most people seem to think it is, but it’s rather a sort of view of eternity, or of all times co-existing at once."


Can we increase productivity by revving up the neural pacemakers in the brain? (http://www.discover.com/issues/apr-06/departments/future-time/)
"Traditionally, time management has consisted of increasing productivity (P) by increasing the work (W)—squeezing more out in the same lump of time. By this math, time (t) never decreases. That's not time management, that's work management.

There is a better way: What if we could increase productivity by leaving W alone and making t smaller? What if we could slow down time, make each moment seem to last longer so more work could be extracted from it? "

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It's fascinating reading and definitely fits with TPTB's assessment that LOST is based in science/pseudo-science or science that may be possible but hasn't been achieved yet. :coolorng: