Great line, loved it... except... it's bizarre to think that Tom, as "Zeke," was once a pretty scary dude. I kind of miss that.

Yeah, but even as a scary dude, he had that little something extra. I loved this line too. And I'm beginng to root for ol' Zeke a bit. It's like I almost don't believe the bad things he did to the losties!

That was a great line! I am seriously beginning to love Tom; he's turning out to be an interesting character, moreso for me than some of the other Others. Lines like that are endearing him to me. And of all the people who wouldn't be able to stomach the sight of blood, I wouldn't have pegged him as one of them. Very humorous. :p

Tom is the Others' Hurley.

That was rather innocent of such a ruthless man eh?

I thought the entire interplay between he and Jack in the OR was priceless..."SHUTUP!!"

I think we may have a new ship...TACK!...or not...

tom's cool. who did they used to call mr. friendly? was that tom? he's def the hurley of the others.

JOM or JEKE

The grudging respect both Tom and Ben acquired for Jack in this eppy is going to serve Jack well in future eppys. Watch, wait, and see. . . .

Yeah Tom is definitely the Hurley of the others, I love the way he sort of bounced from foot to foot n the OR, when Jack told him to go get the radio :D

Tom seriously cracks me. And Jack telling him that he probably shouldn't look at the thing that he pulls out of Ben's back, so of course Tom looks. :rotflmao2:

I've always liked Tom/Zeke.. he's kind of kooky, and a bit random. He seems like such a big bear. You can take that either way.

I adore Tom! Him and Jack are so cute... they make a good team. After "I'm Tom, by the way" I seriously expected him to ask Jack out for a drink sometime.

That line was spoken by a man who knows that Jack ain't goin anywhere anytime soon...despite Ben's promise to send Jack home in exchange his tumor removal services. Why bother "bonding" with Jack...if he's on the next boat home?

When Tom put that beard and costume on...and became "Zeke"...he was merely "playing a role". A role that said to the Losties..."WE are in charge...This is OUR island". It was all just an act to further "control" the test subjects...an authority figure. But now...he's just Tom...actually a nice guy...and perhaps a lil envious of Jack and Ben's attention to him...and a possible man crush brewing?...lol...he did say Kate "wasn't his type"!!

Sorry for any unwanted visuals I may have put in your head.

I adore Tom! Him and Jack are so cute... they make a good team. After "I'm Tom, by the way" I seriously expected him to ask Jack out for a drink sometime.

:roflmao:

"Hi, my name is Tom and I'm a Jack fangirl!"

Get in line, Tommy boy! It's a looong line too. :biggrin:

I loved that line and I really liked Nurse Tom. It reminded me of Nurse Hurley with Jack in season one.

I kept expecting Jack to add a: "We don't have time for that!" or "Set up a perimeter" or "I know you think I can't shove this towel down your throat...." to his trademark "Dammit!", but then I remembered that's another Jack.

That line was spoken by a man who knows that Jack ain't goin anywhere anytime soon...despite Ben's promise to send Jack home in exchange his tumor removal services. Why bother "bonding" with Jack...if he's on the next boat home?.

I think that's what Jack realised at the end when Juliet told him that she is stuck on the island and that Ben promised she could go home as well. There's no way either of them are leaving the islands.

That line was spoken by a man who knows that Jack ain't goin anywhere anytime soon...despite Ben's promise to send Jack home in exchange his tumor removal services. Why bother "bonding" with Jack...if he's on the next boat home?

That's exactly what I thought too. It seemed like a "Welcome to our group" type of thing.

There's no way either of them are leaving the islands.
No way, no how.

But Jack already knew that. He knew it even when Ben was promising him.

I think Tom has come to accept and kind of respect Jack--just like his boss, Ben. That's why the proper introduction.

It'll be way interesting seeing where this goes. Personally, I think Jack's :thumbsup: in Tom and Ben's book, while Juliet is :thmbdown:.

I like the idea of a big teddy bear being involved in that group. I like Tom, and I hope he gets more lines.

Tom was definitely one of the highlights tonight, and this line will be a classic. I LOLed!

I can't recall Tom doing anything violent he held a gun to kates head but didn't shoot, he was on the boat that took walt but he didn't take walt off the raft or shoot sawyer, I think he is one of the "goog guys" the others always mention

I'm just gonna say it - I like Tom. In fact, he's the only Other I like at all.


Tom is the Others' Hurley.

He is! And just like Tom, Hurley is "not so good around blood".

He is! And just like Tom, Hurley is "not so good around blood".

Oh yeah, I was wondering why it seemed so familiar when Tom said he wasn't good around blood.

The unsung Tom scene of the ep is the one where Jack narcs on Juliet. Its like a father yelling at his squabbling kids.

JACK: Oh yeah, well you're the one who told me to kill Ben on the table!
JULIET: What? Pfffffft NUH-UH
JACK: UH-HUH
JULIET: NUH-UH
JACK: UH-HUH
JULIET: NUH-UH
TOM: ENOUGH!

:biggrin:

lol I loved that random line

the show sure loves tom

tom number 1- kate's childhood love
tom number 2- the name Ana gives Christian when they meet at the airport
tom number 3- the artist formerly known as zeke

for some reason his "I'm Tom, by the way" really cracked me up :biggrin:

if we'll get to know more about Tom some day?

the show sure loves tom

tom number 1- kate's childhood love
tom number 2- the name Ana gives Christian when they meet at the airport
tom number 3- the artist formerly known as zeke

Don't forget that Tom number 1 was actually Thomas, Claire's boyfriend :)

The grudging respect both Tom and Ben acquired for Jack in this eppy is going to serve Jack well in future eppys. Watch, wait, and see. . . .

Good observation... I sense he might be one of Jacks best allies on Others Island.

Glad to see a lot of Tom love here. It's inspired me to change my avatar back to my old one. Did you see the way he "pranced" over to the walkie talkie when he was in a hurry? I really like the subtle touches that M. C. Gainey is putting on the character.

But, I regret to point out that he did do something violent-- he was the one who fired on Sun on the boat in Glass Ballerina. Still, like all of the Others, I'm waiting for the larger explanation that will help me understand their motivations.

I dig Tom!

That line was great. I love Tom, he just makes me laugh every time I look at him. Yet before we knew who he was when he was just the dude with beard, he scared the s*it out of me!

Don't forget that Tom number 1 was actually Thomas, Claire's boyfriend :)


Kate's Tom and Claire's Tom are different guys. There have been 4 references to a "Tom."

Like many others here I am starting to actually like Tom too!! It's funny that at the end of season 1 I hated this person "Zeke" and now the tides are turning. Even my sister yesterday when we are watching the episode, just comes out and says "I like him"
he is the nicest one of the others, the safest too I think. I never thought I'd be saying all of this which is one of the great things about this show. Although they never got me to like Ana!! It's amazing how at one time you almost feared him and now with a line like
"I'm tom by the way" you like him. It almost seemed kind of innocent.

I think it is a good idea that they have introduced an Other that we can somewhat care about. Juliet showed some weakness tonight with the giddy giggles and grins, but I still don't trust her at ALL. Tom is someone I can relate to and root for. Whew.

I want to know how Tom came to be on the island. He seems so nice and good natured. :) Not like the others. Even if we don't get a Tom flashback specifically, I hope we learn more about his backstory somehow.

It's kind of hard without flashbacks to learn about his backstory,but I sure hope they decide to give his character more depth.

I thought it was interesting to see Tom in such a vulnerable state . . . a state we've seen our Mittelos scientists (or Others, or whatever we're calling them now) in quite a bit since 'the sky turned purple'. It's amazing power changes so quickly in season 3.

I think Tom has always been the underdog of the others!! It seemed like he was a very important and powerful character at the end of season 1, however things are not always as they seem. He is more like a henchman for Ben. Boy I'd love to see him stand up against Ben or Juliet, maybe sometime in the future.

great line by Tom.

Tom is clearly a more gently being. It's almost like the things that we have seen him do that have been percieved as 'bad' (shooting at Sun, holding a gun to Kate's noggin, stealing Walt, etc.) are the results of him simply following orders. Maybe, in his mind, he is just doing what he is told.

Seems like Tom, as well as most of the Others we have been introduced to (notable exceptions being Juliet, Alex & Karl), are very obedient to Ben. When Jack was operating on Ben, Tom's concern was sincere and genuine. Maybe his proper introduction to Jack was his way of acknowledging a shift in the power structure. Maybe he was concerned that Ben would not make it out of the surgery, and he was trying to secure his place with who he perceived might take his place, ie Jack. Just a thought.

FWIW Tom only fired at Sun after she had shot Colleen, for all Tom knows Sun might've been on the verge of shooting at him as well.

I really am liking Tom now as well. His introduction to Jack was funny and sincere. And yes, definitely implies that Jack isn't going anywhere soon. How long will it be until Tom gives Jack a nickname like he does Juliet ("Julie" and "Jules")?

I thought it was kind of silly, personally. I wanted Jack to be like, "Shut up, I know who you are." heh. But I suppose a light moment was ok in this episode.
We might be able to warm to Tom, as being the "Hurley" of the Others, but I'm not going to just forgive his past trangressions in one fell swoop.

I do think it's funny that he was known as Mr. Friendly. We all thought that was TPTB being ironic, but they actually turned the tables on that one... he *is* friendly! :lol:

Remember that Charlie had that line in the pilot???

"I heard you were shouting for Jack....I'm Charlie, by the way..."

A previous post caught my attention. Yes the "I'm Tom..." thing was unexpected and very funny (Mr. Gainey's delivery was excellent) but has it been assumed or will it be more commonly suggested that Tom is gay . I mean any man that stands before Kate and says "you're not my type" is likely a gay man (not that there is anything wrong with that). Also if you watch him around Jack as he is participating in the surgery he becomes a little more "girly" than anything. After he drops his introduction he almost becomes instantly submissive to Jack. Methinks that he must be crushing on the good doctor. It would make some kind of sense as, from a demographic perspective, someone on that island has to be gay . Its a statistical given...

Another viewer who wants a Tom backstory.

Oh, Tom... I love that guy! Now that Pickett is dead, he's my new favorite guest star.

ETA: With so much Tom love around here, why don't y'all join the Tom fan thread? (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=67579)

No offense, mikey_mike, but I am really sick of hearing people say that "anyone who is not attracted to Kate is gay" as evidence that Tom is gay. I wouldn't mind at all if he were-- it would actually be a quite fun twist on this character-- but ti imply that all heterosexual men should be attracted to Kate is silly. I mean no offense to Evangeline Lilly, but she's not my type either, and I'm a 100% heterosexual man.

I don't mean any disrespect, but your logic just doesn't work in this instance.

I adore Tom! Him and Jack are so cute... they make a good team. After "I'm Tom, by the way" I seriously expected him to ask Jack out for a drink sometime.

I'm glad someone else read that as HoYay. The graphic (http://ostracons.com/attachments/230/290/wrong.jpg) I made for today's blog post about Lost (http://ostracons.com/entry/230/wrong) was about that as well. I'd post it here but dunno if that's kosher or not.

No offense, mikey_mike, but I am really sick of hearing people say that "anyone who is not attracted to Kate is gay" as evidence that Tom is gay.

Damon and Carlton said that there would be a gay character revealed on the episode where Tom makes the remark about Kate not being his type. I think it's pretty obvious that Tom is the one they're referring to. YMMV

does anyone find it odd that tom doesn't refer to the hatch implosion in a more technical manner? he says it the way a child would or someone who didn't have any sort of technical background.

"when the sky turned purple".... lol... how descriptive!

i was under the impression that the others knew what was going on... maybe they don't or maybe they want to appear as if they don't. they do seem to be pretty big on making things look like something they're not.

Damon and Carlton said that there would be a gay character revealed on the episode where Tom makes the remark about Kate not being his type. I think it's pretty obvious that Tom is the one they're referring to. YMMV

They didn't actually. They never promised us that we'll get a gay character, they just hinted that there might be one.

No offense, mikey_mike, but I am really sick of hearing people say that "anyone who is not attracted to Kate is gay" as evidence that Tom is gay. I wouldn't mind at all if he were-- it would actually be a quite fun twist on this character-- but ti imply that all heterosexual men should be attracted to Kate is silly. I mean no offense to Evangeline Lilly, but she's not my type either, and I'm a 100% heterosexual man.

I don't mean any disrespect, but your logic just doesn't work in this instance.
I agree, and only chime in because I've seen the statement by other people before. Sure, they threw in the "you're not my type" to get people wondering, but it's not true to assume that because Kate isn't his type that he forsakes all women.

Anyway, I LOVED the chummy line "I'm Tom, by the way..." seeing as how the last couple times they met, Tom either had a gun to Kate's head and was bellowing about "our island", or had them all bound and gagged with guns to their heads. Then he comes out with this like he's sitting next to Jack in a bar. Jack must think, great, another split personality insane manipulative Other posing as a folksy go-to guy.:biggrin:

I agree, and only chime in because I've seen the statement by other people before. Sure, they threw in the "you're not my type" to get people wondering, but it's not true to assume that because Kate isn't his type that he forsakes all women.

Anyway, I LOVED the chummy line "I'm Tom, by the way..." seeing as how the last couple times they met, Tom either had a gun to Kate's head and was bellowing about "our island", or had them all bound and gagged with guns to their heads. Then he comes out with this like he's sitting next to Jack in a bar. Jack must think, great, another split personality insane manipulative Other posing as a folksy go-to guy.:biggrin:
Well indeed my apologies on the "gay" assumption and that all men should be attracted to Kate. Twas not my intent to offend either. With that said though, it seems that the writers might be pushing that idea on us. When you are on an isolated island with little access to any real population of women and "Kate" walks into the picture, my guess is that most guys would respond, whether she was their type or not.

The thing is the scene could have EASILY been written where Tom drops off the towel and walks away. But a dialogue was written and it seemed as if there was an underlying purpose in letting the audience know that Tom was not attracted to Kate. Again I dont point this out because I feel all hetero men should kneel before Evangeline. I simply say it because it seems like a very strong hint from the writers. Otherwise there is no point in writing those lines for the characters.

does anyone find it odd that tom doesn't refer to the hatch implosion in a more technical manner? he says it the way a child would or someone who didn't have any sort of technical background.

"when the sky turned purple".... lol... how descriptive!

i was under the impression that the others knew what was going on... maybe they don't or maybe they want to appear as if they don't. they do seem to be pretty big on making things look like something they're not.

That struck me as implying that maybe Tom didn't have the mental capacity to understand what happened technically. It sounded like something Ben would say to a six year old - "it happened when the sky turned purple" - and that maybe Tom is a couple cans shy of a six pack.

I think that Tom was trying to flirt with Jack! :biggrin:

Do we know anything about Hurley's father?? The resemblance between the two, their mannerisms and personalities, really made me wonder if there was a larger connection. I look forward to seeing how that pans out.

I didn't read through all the posts so sorry if this has been mentioned . . .

I think Tom's gay and has a cruch on Jack -- NOT that there's anything wrong with that.

1- Tom says to Kate "You're not my type." The others obviously trusted him to deal with Kate in the girl's lockerroom since he wouldn't take any advantages as they want to appear civil. A hetero would have had a hard time guarding Kate in that situation.

2- Tom was too happy to introduce himself properly to Jack. There's no reason for it whatsoever except that he has the hots for him.

I enjoy the character of Tom and I really think the actor who plays him is great, however, I do not like the character. Let's not forget that he was the one who said "Yeah, the thing is, we're gonna have to take the boy" and he was prepared to stop, using any means necessary, anyone who got in the way of KIDNAPPING Walt. They shot Sawyer, and left Jin and Michael to drown, man. That is cold. Now, granted, Alex was there and I LOVE her and think she is a very good, heroic girl. But the difference is that she herself was kidnapped by the Others as a wee babe and has had no choice in many instances but to do what they tell her to do. Even so, she has found courageous ways to rebel and try to help people, as we saw again in this episode. But Tom? He appears to be an Other by choice (to argue against myself, though *lol*, so did Julia until this episode, and now it appears to me that she was coerced into being on that island and participating) and he had no qualms at all about kidnapping Walt, leaving Michael and Jin to die, overseeing Claire's captivity and "medical treatment" or whatever the heck they did to her, AND, remember, when Alex rescued Claire, she basically said that they were planning to cut the baby out of her. I got the feeling that Alex meant they were going to leave Claire to die once they did, but I could be wrong there.

No, I don't think Ben is "the Hurley of the Others". I DO enjoy him greatly, and especially when he was in his "Zeke" role, I got a huge kick out of him, and he could be scary, too. And now as Tom, he is hilarious at times and sure, I'll give you that one can tell he is definitely not all bad. But I just am not prepared to etch his name into the good guys column just yet. Oh! And I left out the kicker which is that he apparently was in on the torture/mind-control/brainwashing of Karl, and that one I cannot see any way to put a "good" spin on. Even if the brainwashing was geared, in the Others' minds, to make Karl into a "good person", the very fact that they employed such a sophisticated brainwashing technique tells me basically all I need to know about any of them who hold any power in the "Other" organization (Dharma Initiative, Hanso Foundation, et al.). Granted, Tom does not seem to have a lot of power, in fact, Benry even laughed when he heard that the Lostaways thought "Zeke" was the leader of the Others and said "Who, him? He's nothing, he's nobody." One could argue that he is "just following orders". But, far as I'm concerned, that didn't absolve the nazi soldiers who made that argument in WWII, and it doesn't absolve a guy like Tom, now. True, we still have more to learn and I will go as far as to say the jury is still out for me--he could be being coerced in some way as Julia has been--but I certainly don't see him as on a par with Hurley. Hurley, imho, doesn't have a speck of otherliness in him and could never actively particpate in, let alone lead, some of the activities that Tom has participated in.

I thought that line was fantastic. (I also liked Jack's withering look afterwards.) I really, really like Tom a lot. He seems like a genuinely good man. It is hard to imagine that he was the Deliverance-like "Zeke."

Tom definitely seems very innocent and childlike, in his actions and his speech. It's interesting how nice he's been to all three Losties ie.; the way he told Kate after he gave her the clothes in the cage if there was anything else she needed, to just let him know. He was just so nice, and genuinely so, not manipulatively "nice" like Ben or Juliet can come across as being. When she brought Jack the burger I felt kind of wary, like what does she want in return? It seems beyond his comprehension that Jack, Kate or Sawyer would be intimidated by him or be angry at him. In these ways, he kinda reminds me of the character that was supposed to be "slow" in The Stand.

Re: his sexual orientation: looking back, it's weird, but I didn't get the gay vibe in the locker room. Now that everyone is talking about it, it makes total sense, but my first reaction to that line "You're not my type" was something else more mysteriouswas going on with him, not him being gay. But as a heterosexual woman, I personally can't imagine being a man and standing in front of a naked, wet Kate and not being affected.

But as a heterosexual woman, I personally can't imagine being a man and standing in front of a naked, wet Kate and not being affected.

As a heterosexual (married) man, Kate isn't my type either. Is it really that hard to imagine that not all men might find Kate attractive?

But back on topic, Tom has become a real favourite of mine, M C Gainey has really made this relativly minor role shine, in much the same way as Michael Emerson has done with Ben. The benefits of employing quality veteran actors I suppose, good casting.

For any Tom fans that might be looking for a Tom fan group, come join: Tom's Our Man! (http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=67579)

Lockefan, I completely agree with you. Though Tom may now appear to be an endearing character, he is still one of the Others and therefore, should ultimately not be trusted.

I loved the line as well, but I think the only reason he did it was a show of respect out of the fact that Jack is essentially saving Ben's life, and it seems as if Tom, if nothing else, has huge respect and loyalty to Ben

About Tom's sexual orientation- during the clip show his scene with kate "you're not my type" was shown, now I don't think they would have shown such a scene in the clip show unless it was important and just reiterating it in case anyone missed it the first time around.

You guys are forgetting the other funny banter between Jack and Tom.

Jack: (operating on Ben) Uh, Nicked an artery
Tom: Isn't that what you just did?
Jack: That was on purpose.

I never expected that type of banter between these two, especially with Jack. Who says Jack doesn't have a sense of humor?

soooo Sawyer gets Kate and Tom gets Jack ?!??!! :eek:

I really did start to *gulp* like Tom in this epi ... he was entertaining and like someone else said earlier ... he kind of is the Hurley of the others !

No, I don't think Ben is "the Hurley of the Others".

I agree, Lockefan. Doesn't anyone recall that when Zeke/Tom confronted Jack and Sawyer in the woods and told told them not to cross the line, Sawyer said, "That's the SOB who shot me on the raft." Sawyer ought to know who shot him, right?

I like how Tom's character has developed. I think it would be cool to have a flash back episode for him, like Juliet had.

Maybe one for Ben as well.

The grudging respect both Tom and Ben acquired for Jack in this eppy is going to serve Jack well in future eppys. Watch, wait, and see. . . .


YES!!! I completely agree. They treated him like..idk...normal...

I'm beginning to like Tom too, but i kinda' thought he was so different from the others when they first appeared in Season 2. Tom is the Others' Hurley
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Yes seriously, Tom is great and he cracks me up..........i'm kinda' liking the dude.

I couldn't help but think about how comfortable jack looked; both in his new dharma threads and hanging back and talking to tom. i have a feeling that jack will not be returning to the losties anytime soon, and perhaps for some of the same reasons that juliet joined the others, so will jack. ben had said that he wanted/needed jack to want to save his life and perform the surgery, he may have achieved something even greater; getting jack to stay with them permanently.

soooo Sawyer gets Kate and Tom gets Jack ?!??!! :eek:


Hey... you never know... I'm telling you, there's a pretty awesome new ship sailing into the harbor... Jack + Tom 4evah! :rolleyes:

That line was spoken by a man who knows that Jack ain't goin anywhere anytime soon...despite Ben's promise to send Jack home in exchange his tumor removal services. Why bother "bonding" with Jack...if he's on the next boat home?.

Lest we forget Ben never said anything about sending Jack home after he removed his tumor. He was to go home -if you do what we tell you when the time comes.

Wonder if Hurley could be convinced to switch teams? Tom and he would make a good couple.

That was rather innocent of such a ruthless man eh?

I thought the entire interplay between he and Jack in the OR was priceless..."SHUTUP!!"

I think we may have a new ship...TACK!...or not...

Well he did say that Kate "wasn't his type" so maybe it's Jack! The character is kind of getting to me too. And, yes, I loved that he can't take the sight of blood. Shows he has a sensitive side....when he's not stealing children. :o)

I'm wondering... since he bothered to make a formal introduction... if maybe he figures Jack is going to be around for a while?

That was rather innocent of such a ruthless man eh?

I thought the entire interplay between he and Jack in the OR was priceless..."SHUTUP!!"

I think we may have a new ship...TACK!...or not...

:biggrin: Tack. I love it.
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:roflmao:

"Hi, my name is Tom and I'm a Jack fangirl!"

Get in line, Tommy boy! It's a looong line too. :biggrin:

I loved that line and I really liked Nurse Tom. It reminded me of Nurse Hurley with Jack in season one.

I kept expecting Jack to add a: "We don't have time for that!" or "Set up a perimeter" or "I know you think I can't shove this towel down your throat...." to his trademark "Dammit!", but then I remembered that's another Jack.

Same here. Total shades of Nurse Hurley.
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The unsung Tom scene of the ep is the one where Jack narcs on Juliet. Its like a father yelling at his squabbling kids.

JACK: Oh yeah, well you're the one who told me to kill Ben on the table!
JULIET: What? Pfffffft NUH-UH
JACK: UH-HUH
JULIET: NUH-UH
JACK: UH-HUH
JULIET: NUH-UH
TOM: ENOUGH!

:biggrin:

Ha! I picked up on that, too.

Glad to see a lot of Tom love here. It's inspired me to change my avatar back to my old one. Did you see the way he "pranced" over to the walkie talkie when he was in a hurry? I really like the subtle touches that M. C. Gainey is putting on the character.

But, I regret to point out that he did do something violent-- he was the one who fired on Sun on the boat in Glass Ballerina. Still, like all of the Others, I'm waiting for the larger explanation that will help me understand their motivations.

I dig Tom!

LOL I noticed that! He reminded me of Harrison Ford, who I always thought ran oddly in the Indy movies.

for some reason his "I'm Tom, by the way" really cracked me up :biggrin:

if we'll get to know more about Tom some day?

Yeah they may be setting us up for an eventual Tom FB by featuring him more often.

Tom is the Others' Hurley.

That's awesome.
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LOL I noticed that! He reminded me of Harrison Ford, who I always thought ran oddly in the Indy movies.

Harrison Ford runs like a gorilla in his movies. Thank goodness someone else finally said something!

That's awesome.
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Harrison Ford runs like a gorilla in his movies. Thank goodness someone else finally said something!

:rotflmao2: I just envisioned a gorilla wearing Indy's clothes.

Well he did say that Kate "wasn't his type" so maybe it's Jack! The character is kind of getting to me too. And, yes, I loved that he can't take the sight of blood. Shows he has a sensitive side....when he's not stealing children. :o)

Him and ben. ben mentioned how he hated needles in the fall epis. he couldnt even look.

I find the doofus side of Tom a bit disconcerting but it's entertaining all the same. As for Kate not being his type, he could simply prefer tall blondes. Or maybe less fiesty women without a criminal past? Doesn't have to mean he's gay although I have no problem with it if he is.

They didn't actually. They never promised us that we'll get a gay character, they just hinted that there might be one.
No, it's definite. It was from a podcast, and I distinctively remember starting a thread with this title (also contains a spoiler for a future episode):
Episode 10 is Hurley-centric and there will be a gay character on Lost

Still not sure it's Tom though, and what they would do with the storyline. I mean, we know Jack is straight people, come on! Maybe Tom has a partner among the Others already, and it will sort of just be there without explication, like how we found out Colleen and Pickett were married. That would be good, IMO.

I remember that rumor about the gay character. I definitely remember it was all the way back in season 1. We'll see if that is finally coming true. It could be like someone above said though, maybe he just prefers tall blondes!

Yeah they may be setting us up for an eventual Tom FB by featuring him more often.

I think they defidently are.

Tom is the Others' Hurley.

Agreed - he's a star! :biggrin:

Count me as a Tom fan, which is not good news for him, as I tend to fixate on doomed characters (see avatar)...

Tom's last name hasn't been revealed yet, right? If not, then I predict, with there being John Locke, Edmund Burke, and a Rousseau running around (or not, in Burke's case), that Tom's last name will be Hobbes.

Thomas Hobbes, 17th century philosopher, author of Leviathan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_%28book%29), along with Locke and Rousseau, was a proponent of the social contract theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract).

Just a semi-educated guess; he's not the only Tom, but he seems like the Tom most likely to acquire a last name at this point.

Geez and I thought when he said "I'm Tom by the way" that he was trying to distract Jack from something....?? *mumbles to self and goes back to rewatching the episode*

No, it's definite. It was from a podcast, and I distinctively remember starting a thread with this title (also contains a spoiler for a future episode):
Episode 10 is Hurley-centric and there will be a gay character on Lost

Still not sure it's Tom though, and what they would do with the storyline. I mean, we know Jack is straight people, come on! Maybe Tom has a partner among the Others already, and it will sort of just be there without explication, like how we found out Colleen and Pickett were married. That would be good, IMO.

That would be nice :smile:

Tom is the Hurley of the others, good one!! Who else would the gay character be, unless maybe someone is in Hurley's flashback possibley who is gay. If not than Tom is the only one on the island who would make sense. There could have been a possible hint already with the whole "Your not my type" thing. Which has been talked into the ground!! by the way it may be off topic but whose flashback is episode 9's?

No problem with Tom's line. Why didn't Jack ask Tom what Ben and Juliet's "history" was all about? Poor writing or reasonable explanation?

Zeke rules!!!!!!!!!!! jjaja...I alsoloved tha scene !

No problem with Tom's line. Why didn't Jack ask Tom what Ben and Juliet's "history" was all about? Poor writing or reasonable explanation?

I think it's reasonable considering it was two guys and Jack probably doesn't trust tom or want to talk to him. He was also trying to concentrate on Juliet and Ben and perhaps read Ben's lips.

Isn't it great how we're all warming up to the alter ego of Zeke the Evil Hillbilly, who is still technically an enemy of the Losties, with equal fervor to how we reacted with animosity to Nikki & Paulo, who are supposedly on the "good guys"? Shows what good acting and great characterization can do, and how it can fall flat when it's poorly done.
I'm a Tom fan too since sometime in Season 3 *sports new avi*.

Love Tom, I have ever since his "This is OUR Island" speech at The Line That Shouldn't Be Crossed. I loved this bit from Not in Portland:Tom: Is it true?
Jack: Is what true?
Tom: What you said -- did Juliet really ask you to kill him?
Jack: Yeah, and in about 40 minutes she's going to get her wish.
Ben [coming to]: Hey, that's not helping anything. Now, could somebody please get Juliet? I loved the way M.C. played that, like "ah, why do a stupid thing like that, Jules".

On another thread, I compared Ben and Tom to Mr. Burns and Smithers on The Simpsons. :) :biggrin:

Gotta love Tom, that big old merry bear! :biggrin:

And yes, I believe that our Tom/Zeke is gay. In the Lost clip show that aired right before "Not in Portland," they made it a point to replay the scene where Tom utters his "You're not my type" line to Kate.

Count me as a Tom fan, which is not good news for him, as I tend to fixate on doomed characters (see avatar)...

Tom's last name hasn't been revealed yet, right? If not, then I predict, with there being John Locke, Edmund Burke, and a Rousseau running around (or not, in Burke's case), that Tom's last name will be Hobbes.

Thomas Hobbes, 17th century philosopher, author of Leviathan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_%28book%29), along with Locke and Rousseau, was a proponent of the social contract theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract).

Just a semi-educated guess; he's not the only Tom, but he seems like the Tom most likely to acquire a last name at this point.

He could be Thomas Paine

I wonder how he'll react when he finds out Juilet has killed his sidekick Pickett

Why didn't Jack ask Tom what Ben and Juliet's "history" was all about? Poor writing or reasonable explanation?

Because he thought Tom was coming on to him and was freaked out? :biggrin:
Lol, basically I think Jack was too focused on what might be happening with Bem and Juliet below them. Afterall remember Jack's comments before he left, 'don't touch him', I think he was a bit wary about what Juliet might try and do. Jack was probably also concentrating hoping for some clues to what they were saying, their facial expressions.

Or even more likely TPTB just don't want to give that way yet. :rolleyes:

Jack has shown universal apathy when it comes to what the Others are all about. He just wants them to leave their people alone.

A few episodes from now he'll be tossing a football around with Tom, so clearly they're going to buddy up some.

Count me as a Tom fan, which is not good news for him, as I tend to fixate on doomed characters (see avatar)...

Tom's last name hasn't been revealed yet, right? If not, then I predict, with there being John Locke, Edmund Burke, and a Rousseau running around (or not, in Burke's case), that Tom's last name will be Hobbes.

Thomas Hobbes, 17th century philosopher, author of Leviathan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_%28book%29), along with Locke and Rousseau, was a proponent of the social contract theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract).

Just a semi-educated guess; he's not the only Tom, but he seems like the Tom most likely to acquire a last name at this point.

Of course Tom is going to be Hobbes. Remember the Hobbesian circle though. Can't get out! Also referenced was Burke. Philospher who sided with colonists in America. He's dead. On show, and, in life. Also don't forget Des David Hume. Now we have a Carl in an episode where they intorduced Stephen Hawkings book and Carl Sagan wrote the foreward. Tom Cruise is next. There used to be threads here called Philosopher's Island and philosphers island part deux. Can't find them.

Yea I noticed that too, I kinda felt bad for him the way Jack was yelling hehe.

Sorry if this has already been said cause ther is no way in hell im gonna read through 10 pages but Jack already knew Tom's name. In the season finally last year there was a conversation simular to this while Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley were tied up on the docks.

Kate: Your beard is fake (gagged so sounds muffled)
Tom: What you say
Ms Klu: She said she knows your beard is fake Tom
Tom: O thanks (removes beard) and thank you for telling them my real name ___(and i dont remember Ms. Klu's real name but here you go).

Sorry if this has already been said cause ther is no way in hell im gonna read through 10 pages but Jack already knew Tom's name. In the season finally last year there was a conversation simular to this while Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley were tied up on the docks.

Kate: Your beard is fake (gagged so sounds muffled)
Tom: What you say
Ms Klu: She said she knows your beard is fake Tom
Tom: O thanks (removes beard) and thank you for telling them my real name ___(and i dont remember Ms. Klu's real name but here you go).
Good point. But the way Tom was saying it, it was sort of "we haven't been properly introduced," which makes it so ironically funny, given that Tom's had Jack threatened, disarmed, bound, and gagged before taking the time for proper introductions.

Good point. But the way Tom was saying it, it was sort of "we haven't been properly introduced," which makes it so ironically funny, given that Tom's had Jack threatened, disarmed, bound, and gagged before taking the time for proper introductions.
I know, that's what totally made it the funniest line for me. Like he's this stereotypically violent henchman, does all this stuff to Jack, then is sitting there seemingly harmless as can be (human!) and introduces himself.

I didn't read through all the posts so sorry if this has been mentioned . . .

I think Tom's gay and has a cruch on Jack -- NOT that there's anything wrong with that.

1- Tom says to Kate "You're not my type." The others obviously trusted him to deal with Kate in the girl's lockerroom since he wouldn't take any advantages as they want to appear civil. A hetero would have had a hard time guarding Kate in that situation.

2- Tom was too happy to introduce himself properly to Jack. There's no reason for it whatsoever except that he has the hots for him.

On the other hand, Tom is totally loyal to Ben, such as would happen if Ben had once saved his life. Since Jack is holding Ben's life in his hands, Tom would have a strong reason to "make nice" with Jack.

I get the feeling he totally trusts Jack's desire to save Ben's life, that he is truly trying to obey the Hippocratic oath to save a life. Especially after Jack's reluctance to leave Juliet alone with Ben ("Three minutes.")