When juliet ask Alpert if she can take her sister with her, Alpert replies. " We are very remote. She wouldnt have the resources she needs."

But wouldnt she? They are on this island that has a damn operating table and tools . why then is Rachel excluded from going on the trip. Is she not special as Juliet is? Do they only target special people with powers. Brings up the connection to the show Heroes.

oh by the way i love bad kate. wussy kate was a real turn off. "Shoot him in the knee."

Interesting point. If that were the case, it makes you wonder what Ethan was doing at Rachel's building in the first place. If they had something to do with her baby, wouldn't they want to bring her along and keep an eye on it?

Yes, the return of Danger Kate was nice.

As for Rachel, it is odd, since generally the Dharma Project seems to want to acquire young people.

I thought it had to do with her sister's cancer.
I got the feeling she was still undergoing chemo due to her appearance(gauntness/hair loss) and tiredness etc and the Island although having some basic facilities isnt set up for Cancer treatments.

Unless they know that Rachel's baby will not make it to term... or the fact that there is an obvious medical history of cancer.

A couple issues at work here:

1) Alpert and Rom's agenda involved getting Juliet (who was valued at least for her skills as a scientist) to go to "Portland" (in reality the Island). The only interest they had in Rachel was removing her as an impediment. To do that, she needed to become pregnant and get "healthy." How involved they were in that is anyone's guess.

2) Rachel appears to be very sick, perhaps terminal. It's been established that the Island's medical facilities are spare, so her presence there would be the equivilent to a death sentence.

I thought it had to do with her sister's cancer.
I got the feeling she was still undergoing chemo due to her appearance(gauntness/hair loss) and tiredness etc and the Island although having some basic facilities isnt set up for Cancer treatments.

I thought about that too, but then I was thinking, why in the world would you try to get a woman pregnant when she is fighting/recovering from cancer? She can't take care of her own body , how is she going to carry this baby to term and survive?
My question is , did she have cancer? or was the fertility treatment that Juliet gave her cause the same side effects as chemotherapy?

I thought about that too, but then I was thinking, why in the world would you try to get a woman pregnant when she is fighting/recovering from cancer? She can't take care of her own body , how is she going to carry this baby to term and survive?
My question is , did she have cancer? or was the fertility treatment that Juliet gave her cause the same side effects as chemotherapy?

Good questions. Two possibilities:

1) Rachel was desperate to conceive-willing to rink serious side-effects from Juliet's medical care to do so.

2) Rachel was desperate to concieve-trying to do so with Juliet's help even though she had a serious illness unrelated to whatever treatment she was receiving from Juliet.

I'll go with (2). My guess is Rachel was dying, yet desperately wanted to have a child before she died. Due to her medical condition, that seemed impossible-until Juliet's research resulted in success.

IMO, Rachel was able to concieve and perhaps even give birth, but died shortly thereafter. Alpert and Rom probably played a role, giving Juliet the excuse she needed to join them in "Portland."

I thought about that too, but then I was thinking, why in the world would you try to get a woman pregnant when she is fighting/recovering from cancer? She can't take care of her own body , how is she going to carry this baby to term and survive?
My question is , did she have cancer? or was the fertility treatment that Juliet gave her cause the same side effects as chemotherapy?

She did seem to think that she'd suddenly start to get better now that she was pregnant and I don't think that Juliet would be endangering her sister's life...

Was it the drugs making her sick or was she sick already and getting pregnant was the cure?

There are hormonal disorders that cause you to loose your hair.

Rachel still had eye brows and eye lashes. I'm pretty sure that chemo makes you lose all of your body hair, not just the hair on the top of your head. (I'm sure they could have covered the actresses eye brows with something to make them look like they were gone if they needed to)

It seems to me that Rachel's physical condition was due to the injections she was given by Juliet.

Rachel expected to get better now that the injections would stop.

Juliet had some ethical issues. I don't see her trying to help a terminal patient become pregnant (even if that person is her sister).

It seems to me that Rachel's physical condition was due to the injections she was given by Juliet.

Rachel expected to get better now that the injections would stop.

Juliet had some ethical issues. I don't see her trying to help a terminal patient become pregnant (even if that person is her sister).



i like this idea of the vaccine making her unhealthy and now that it stopped she needs to regain her health.

as for the ethical issues and im throwing this way out there now because im crazy. anyway what if there is some cloning going on? we talk about bad twins and such and such. could rachel be giving birth to a clone of someone we know. someone familiar with cloning, can u give birth to yourself???

exactly! Rachel seemed to think she would be better really soon after she heard she would be having a baby, making me think that she didn't need to take the treatment anymore so she wouldn't be getting sicker.

I remember Edmund saying that the Ethical concerns may even cross the line into "criminal". (Possibly having to do with human experimentation, but not knowing the details of the treatments, it's difficult to say precisely.)

Also, knowing that they planned on killing Claire and taking her baby after it was born; I wouldn't be surprised if there were a similar plan in place for Rachael's baby.

If Juliet returns "home", she may "discover" that her sister died in childbirth.
Though I would suspect that if the baby were born, it's fate would have been the same as was planned for Claire's.

To add to everything other people have suggested:

If Alpert & Company specifically wanted Juliet on their research team (presumably as an intellectual asset in the area of fertility science), then maybe they felt having Rachel present on Craphole Island might present the added burden of emotionally distracting Juliet's attention away from doing their "good work"?

After all, if Juliet knew that Rachel was being housed on the island, she'd probably be asking about Rachel's ongoing health/safety every 5 minutes, rather than doing her work.

What if Rachel isn't pregnant?

She lived in a crummy apartment. We are led to believe that she has a really good relationship with Juliette but who really knows? What if Juliette got her sick to begin with? If there is more to the story we might see Rachel as having motivation to deceive Juliette. Wouldn't be the first time that someone on Lost turned out to be really different than what we were initially led to believe.

The opening scene is Ethan leaving Rachel's apartment complex. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Rachel was bought off by Hanso so Juliette would be free to join the team.

I also think Rachel was going to some Cancer treatment....Juliets age may also have something to do with her being chosen...but it was her reasearch what landed her the "honor" of working for Dharma....it sucks ajajajaja

If Rachel did have cancer, wouldn't the island be able to cure her like it did for Rose & Locke?

There's something not quite right about her...

Sh.

Rachel still had eye brows and eye lashes. I'm pretty sure that chemo makes you lose all of your body hair, not just the hair on the top of your head. (I'm sure they could have covered the actresses eye brows with something to make them look like they were gone if they needed to)

Not all chemo drugs make you lose your hair, and not all of them make you lose all your body hair, too. However, many chemotherapy regimens cause sterility. There are fertility doctors these days that specialize in treating young cancer survivors.

As a survivor myself, I vote that she was undergoing chemo and they did not want to take her away from her oncologist.

My guess is that Ethan somehow drugged her and put her to sleep and than he "examined" her and the baby to see if her,the baby, or both were "special" enough to make the island cut. Maybe thats who the x-rays belonged to. And thats why we see Ethan in the hallway.

What if Rachel isn't pregnant?

She lived in a crummy apartment. We are led to believe that she has a really good relationship with Juliette but who really knows? What if Juliette got her sick to begin with? If there is more to the story we might see Rachel as having motivation to deceive Juliette. Wouldn't be the first time that someone on Lost turned out to be really different than what we were initially led to believe.

The opening scene is Ethan leaving Rachel's apartment complex. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Rachel was bought off by Hanso so Juliette would be free to join the team.

Hmm, buying her off or drugging her?
Definitely Ethan is involved somehow! We don't know for sure if he came from Rachel's room, but past experience tells us its not just a coincidence. Plus Ethan is heavily a part of Dharma to our knowlegde, so why else would he be there?