What was the book at the top of Sawyer's stash . . . and not the porn? :)

I believe there was an initial shot, and one longer shot of it being held.

It's Laughter in the Dark (http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/9964/2005612207564257953_rs.jpg) by Vladimir Nabokov.

Here the Amazon.com page (http://www.amazon.com/Laughter-Dark-Vladimir-Nabokov/dp/0679724508) for it too.

Thank you . . . I'm now awaiting our literary scholars!

From what I read at Amazon: an older man might go for a younger "mistress." Who do you think this will apply to? Locke/Claire (esp. possible after a Charlie death) or maybe Sawyer/Alex?

Vabokov is also mentioned in Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire" http://restless.rimspace.net/rocknroll/1950s.htm

Useless trivia...??

Anyone (besides the Clan of the Elders - LOLOLOL!!) remember the song by the Police (who BTW are getting back together - RAWK!!) called "Don't Stand So Close to Me"? It's a song about a Teacher who falls in love with his student who is half his age.

There is a line that refers to that Author/book: "Just like the old man in that book by Nabakov"

HHHmmm... Wonder why that's in the tent... ??? Could Sawyer get involved with a *GASP* muuuuuuuuuch younger woman?? Saaaaaaaay a 16 y/o? ("This girl is half his age" "Don't Stand So Close to Me - The Police) Now who would that be...???

Veeeeeeeeeery interesting... :biggrin:

Sawyer and Nikki? That would be a beautiful couple.

Useless trivia...
Anyone (besides the Clan of the Elders - LOLOLOL!!) remember the song by the Police (who BTW are getting back together - RAWK!!) called "Don't Stand So Close to Me"?

There is a line that refers to that Author/book: "Just like the old man in that book by Nabakov"


That song had a cameo in last week's The Office.:biggrin:

Anyone (besides the Clan of the Elders - LOLOLOL!!) remember the song by the Police (who BTW are getting back together - RAWK!!) called "Don't Stand So Close to Me"? It's a song about a Teacher who falls in love with his student who is half his age.

There is a line that refers to that Author/book: "Just like the old man in that book by Nabakov"
Hey, what's wrong with an Elder recognizing that?? ;) (esp. one who's excited about a possible Police tour date... ahhh!)
/Elder threadjack

I didn't remember that being in We Didn't Start the Fire though, Sam, so thanks for the memory jog.

:biggrin: Sawyer and Nikki? That would be a beautiful couple.

Or maybe Alex and Sawyer?? Basket-weaving anyone??

I'm thinking probaby not - but it's interesting.

(Oceanic Lisa - Just call me the Queen of Denial ...:biggrin: )

Definitely looks like something Sawyer would be reading...:D

From what I read at Amazon: an older man might go for a younger "mistress." Who do you think this will apply to? Locke/Claire (esp. possible after a Charlie death) or maybe Sawyer/Alex?Desmond & Claire silly!!! :biggrin:

Desmond & Claire silly!!! :biggrin:

But Desmond and Penny are not supposed to be together!

I thought I saw Fahrenheit 451... did I just imagine that?

Desmond & Claire silly!!! :biggrin:

Sorry Selene - I'm the same way - I live in Sawyerland and everything revolves around him!! :biggrin: It''s probably a reference more to Desmond and Claire than Alex and Sawyer (that actually gives me the creeps - unless the math is "off" and she's 18y/o)

1Voice - I love your Avi!! LOL!!

Desmond & Claire silly!!! :biggrin:
Desmond doesn't seem to be that much older than Claire to me.

Claire's in her early 20's I think, while Desmond appears to be mid- to late-thirties. Just my estimation but I've seen others post similar age theories.

Desmond doesn't seem to be that much older than Claire to me.

Claire's in her early 20's I think, while Desmond appears to be mid- to late-thirties. Just my estimation but I've seen others post similar age theories.I'm pretty sure Henry Ian Cusick is 37, not sure about Emilie (24 maybe?) or how old their characters are supposed to be.

i remember reading this book a few years ago.. its about a guy who falls for this hooker and he gets in trouble with her other men.. the hookers family miss treats her (kaite mabey) so she ran away... any thoughts on what i said from anyone who didnt read this in college in 1 night 3 years ago?

Sounds like a spoiler for next weeks episode with Jack & Achara!

Useless trivia??

Anyone remember the song by the Police called "Don't Stand So Close to Me"? It's a song about a Teacher who falls in love with his student who is half his age.

There is a line that refers to that Author/book: "Just like the old man in that book by Nabakov"



More useless trivia, but I do believe that particular lyric from "Don't Stand So Close To Me", about the "book by Nabakov" is about another book by him, "Lolita" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita) . Nabakov was a bit of a perv :biggrin: .

Outside of the Lolita reference, we do have a book about an artist and a wealthy benefactor (though it doesn't quite fit in with the Desmond and Penny story). I'm struck that Desmond has 'set or scene artist' on his resume.

That song had a cameo in last week's The Office.:biggrin:

ROFLOLOL hahha the Police cover band at Phyllis' wedding.

ROFLOLOL hahha the Police cover band at Phyllis' wedding.

You mean Scrantonicity?!? :biggrin:

Hahahaha - they also cover Jewel songs for a little extra cash.

Sorry Selene - I'm the same way - I live in Sawyerland and everything revolves around him!! :biggrin: It''s probably a reference more to Desmond and Claire than Alex and Sawyer (that actually gives me the creeps - unless the math is "off" and she's 18y/o)



Even if the math is off a little and Alex is 18, 18 and 35 still = creepy! I love Sawyer, and I really love all of the sarcastic banter between him and Alex, but it needs to end there. If for some wild reason Sawyer can't live out the rest of his island days with Kate, I'd much rather see him with Juliet or someone else his own age.

Hopefully this reference is more in line with Locke and Claire, especially if it true that Charlie won't be around much longer. I can totally see Locke offering Claire a shoulder to cry on. But then again, I have a feeling that all of the men who were down in the hatch during the season 2 finale are "dead men walking". Eko is already gone and let's not forget that his last words to Locke were "You're next". If Charlie dies, Locke might be right behind him.
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Sounds like a spoiler for next weeks episode with Jack & Achara!

Excellent point!

More useless trivia, but I do believe that particular lyric from "Don't Stand So Close To Me", about the "book by Nabakov" is about another book by him, "Lolita" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita) . Nabakov was a bit of a perv :biggrin: .
I was gonna say that too, Robin Girl. Lolita is his better known book, and that deals with a middle aged man's obsession with a 12 year old girl. :pissed: I read it back in the day and didn't see much literary value in it, but it seems to be a classic. So I guess Nabakov's just really a dirty old man.

Taken from The International Vladmir Nabokov Society's page for Laughter in the Dark (http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/wlaugh.htm):

"A certain man," said Rex, as he turned round the corner with Margot, "once lost a diamond cuff-link in the wide blue sea, and twenty years later, on the exact day, a Friday apparently, he was eating a large fish - but there was no diamond inside. That's what I like about coincidence."

Laughter in the Dark is a worked-over English translation of Kamera obskura, with the names of the main characters altered but with theme and plot more or less intact. A rather stuffy Berlin art critic (Bruno Krechmar in the Russian version / Albert Albinus in the English translation) becomes infatuated with a teenaged gamine (Margot,) leaving his wife and child to set up house with her. Through Albinus, Margot again encounters her first lover, an inhumanly nasty artist (Robert Gorn / Axel Rex.) As a result, Albinus suffers a series of misfortunes at the caprice of Rex and the not unwilling Margot. The Berlin setting, German characters, and cruel world view set Laughter in the Dark somewhat apart from the bulk of Nabokov's oeuvre.


Anyone else seeing the correlation between the lost cufflink and Desmond's ring?

I think Sawyer probably wishes he was Rex, Margot's first lover in Laughter in the Dark. Rex was a really evil bastard.

Taken from The International Vladmir Nabokov Society's page for Laughter in the Dark (http://www.libraries.psu.edu/nabokov/wlaugh.htm):

"A certain man," said Rex, as he turned round the corner with Margot, "once lost a diamond cuff-link in the wide blue sea, and twenty years later, on the exact day, a Friday apparently, he was eating a large fish - but there was no diamond inside. That's what I like about coincidence."

Laughter in the Dark is a worked-over English translation of Kamera obskura, with the names of the main characters altered but with theme and plot more or less intact. A rather stuffy Berlin art critic (Bruno Krechmar in the Russian version / Albert Albinus in the English translation) becomes infatuated with a teenaged gamine (Margot,) leaving his wife and child to set up house with her. Through Albinus, Margot again encounters her first lover, an inhumanly nasty artist (Robert Gorn / Axel Rex.) As a result, Albinus suffers a series of misfortunes at the caprice of Rex and the not unwilling Margot. The Berlin setting, German characters, and cruel world view set Laughter in the Dark somewhat apart from the bulk of Nabokov's oeuvre.


Anyone else seeing the correlation between the lost cufflink and Desmond's ring?Camera Obscura certainly fits
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camera_obscura

Camera Obscura certainly fits
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camera_obscura

Well, that's pretty interesting, especially with the backwards stuff in the painting and all of the cameras in the photograph scene. Ack, what does it mean? A reversal of fate? A parallel reality? Rewriting the past from the future?:confused:

Was this just me, but I think I saw A Dharma book in his stash. I'm not sure if that's a big deal or not because he could have taken it before the hatch blew up. :)

Maybe the Camera Obscura reference (and the backwards words in the painting) are clues that his memory (or whatever it was) is a projection, or not real?

Camera Obscura is the tie in, here. It has to be. It fits way too well.

I've been curious what everyone would conclude that this book is a reference to. I think that INVITATION TO A BEHEADING would totally fit into a LOST book, but this didn't fit for me. I love this book, I've probably read it 5 or 6 times. This story is not about the beginning or the end it's completely the journey. So maybe that is what they are referring to. The first paragraph from the book tells you the whole story.

"Once upon a time there lived in Berlin, Germany, a man called Albinus. He was rich, respectable, happy; one day he abandoned his wife for the sake of a youthful mistress; he loved; was not loved; and his life ended in disaster.
This is the whole of the story and we might have left it at that had there not been profit and pleasure in the telling; and although there is plenty of space on a gravestone to contain, bound in moss, the abridged verion of a man's life, detail is always welcome."

That's the beginnning of the book. Kind of dire, but maybe the story of one of our unknown Dharma folks?
And he falls in love with a theater usher, granted later on she acts like a prostitute but she isn't really identified that way. Maybe she is in the Russian translation, but Nabokov translated this book himself, so he changed it if so.