eunlim1ted
02-15-2007, 06:47 AM
It seems like Desmond's catch phrase makes a little more sense now. The question is was he aware of its possible meaning meaning (another life being another loop or relived experience) or was he unknowingly making an extremely ironic statement. Either way it means the writers put a lot of foresight into the series, as this one has been setting up since the beginning of season 2.
Reminds me of that book (is it slaughter house 5?) where the guy lives the events in his life out of order.
Seems like another reference to Dr. Manhattan in the watchmen as well, but when asked by characters why he can see the future but does nothing to change it he replies something along the lines of: since time must unfold he way he sees it, there is no point in him trying to change it. Rather, he follows what he sees like a script, reciting every word he sees himself say, etc.
Lost in Hoboken
02-15-2007, 09:40 AM
[quote=eunlim1ted;1377573]It seems like Desmond's catch phrase makes a little more sense now. The question is was he aware of its possible meaning meaning (another life being another loop or relived experience) or was he unknowingly making an extremely ironic statement. Either way it means the writers put a lot of foresight into the series, as this one has been setting up since the beginning of season 2.
Reminds me of that book (is it slaughter house 5?) where the guy lives the events in his life out of order.
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I totally agree. I remember when he first said that to Jack everyone was speculating if it was just a phrase he uses or if he actually knew he would see Jack again. I guess this answers that question.
And yes, the book was Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut. While not exactly what the narrator of that book was going through, Desmond did experience a similar phenomenon.
All in all a great episode!
pinkchimney
02-15-2007, 10:17 AM
I like this storyline but the problem I have with it is this...
Desmond can see the future because he's already lived it. The problem is once he does something to alter the outcome (i.e. save Charlie twice), the events afterwards should no longer be the same therefore he should NOT be able to see, anticipate or have flashes about what is to come. The future changed once he saves Charlie the first time. This seems like a major flaw in the writers logic.
This also reminds me of Donnie Darko with the black holes and time loops.
desmondslosthairstraighteners
02-15-2007, 10:42 AM
I'm just wondering whether he can actually see the future in general or just Charlie's future. Mind you he did see Locke's speech.
omgimsolost
02-15-2007, 10:48 AM
remember what the old lady said...time has a way of correcting itself, so eventhough Desmond has altered the present, the future is still holding true. I'm more interested in wondering what else Desmond is going to be able to remember about what is to come. Also, if Desmond went through all of this already, has anyone else?
prospero
02-15-2007, 10:50 AM
I thought it was interesting that last night Charlie was calling Desmond "brother," but Desmond was calling people pal, instead of his trademark "brother."
The Great One
02-15-2007, 10:57 AM
Charlie is a survivor... he was in the bathroom when the plane crashed instead of his seat where he would have been dead. He survived a hanging by Ethan. Mr. Eko kept the smoke monster away from him. Then Desmond saves him twice. Maybe Charlie just knows how to avoid death.