Halcyon
02-22-2007, 12:02 AM
Did anyone else notice the large ship looming on the horizon when Juliet and Jack were on the beach??
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View Full Version : Large Boat on the Horizon? Halcyon 02-22-2007, 12:02 AM Did anyone else notice the large ship looming on the horizon when Juliet and Jack were on the beach?? Lost In My Mind 02-22-2007, 12:09 AM I believe that was the boat they were using to travel to the main island. They had to row out there because the boat can't come too close to shore. It looks like the same boat from the end of Season One, if I'm not mistaken. mooze 02-22-2007, 12:10 AM I thought it looked like the boat they gave to Michael and Walt. :/ PINK FREUD 02-22-2007, 12:11 AM I believe that was the boat they were using to travel to the main island. They had to row out there because the boat can't come too close to shore. It looks like the same boat from the end of Season One, if I'm not mistaken. yup. that's right Vertical 02-22-2007, 12:11 AM I believe that was the boat they were using to travel to the main island. They had to row out there because the boat can't come too close to shore. It looks like the same boat from the end of Season One, if I'm not mistaken. From the quick glance I saw, it looked MUCH larger than the little dingy at the end of season 1, but from the previews, it appears Jack and Juliet are on a boat that very much resembles the season 1 boat ... but that one on the horizon looked like a yacht, not a tiny little fishing dingy. Plus, as mentioned above, they gave that boat to Michael and Walt. Filmdirector1986 02-22-2007, 12:12 AM it seemed like a cruise ship to me.... Kevonski 02-22-2007, 12:13 AM So I wonder where it docks..... If it's the ferry, and it takes them to Alcatraz island... I bet there is another island in the works,, Tyler Durden 02-22-2007, 12:17 AM I don't think it's the boat that Michael took. They had to have another boat anyway to take J K S to the other island. It looked much bigger also. Jack and Juliette were standing at the front. Save The Humans 02-22-2007, 12:18 AM If it is the same boat--then what happened to Michael and Walt? (Stay tuned--next season, I bet!) Nice how they ended it with Juliet, then Jack. Go to fade out on Jack. Wonder when we'll next see Jack? dangerousdirk 02-22-2007, 12:19 AM I agree, that boat looked fairly large, like a yacht or something like that, not like the one that Jack and Juliet were on at the end. emmadoggy 02-22-2007, 12:22 AM The ending of this episode really confused me for some reason. They show Jack leave with Ben and a couple others in the small row boat, with a larger boat (looked more like a ship to me) in the background. It took me a second, but I was like, oh, ok they are going back to the other island ("home" for Ben). But what was weird was that that boat seemed a really long way off. If they were going to row that far out just to get to that boat, couldn't they just row over to the island?? :confused: Then they show Jack and Juliet together on a boat. A boat that looks a lot like the boat they gave Michael. When and how did Juliet (and presumably the other Others) get to the boat? How many boats do they have? I don't know. For some reason none of it really made much sense to me. I guess, I understand the overall idea of it, but the way it was shown was very confusing and non-sensical (or maybe that's just me!:rolleyes: ) Anyway, I felt this whole episode had a very sort of disjointed feeling to it. It seemed to jump around a lot and just didn't flow or fit together very well. And that is a major thing for me to say because I rarely have any criticisms of the show. It was still an ok episode - just not a great one. BillToons 02-22-2007, 12:27 AM I don't think it was anywhere near the size (small size) of the boat they gave micheal and walt... it was more of a ship. Probably why they gave micheal and walt the boat they did ... because they have a ship. I DVRed it and am going to go watch again caforrest2047 02-22-2007, 12:40 AM They also have a sub. and...... a third island lostgurl 02-22-2007, 01:07 AM There's no way that was Michael's boat. Michael's boat was tiny compared to the one they showed tonight. Vertical 02-22-2007, 01:29 AM Screencap: http://home.comcast.net/~therealvertical/TheBoat_copy.jpg Baileysdad 02-22-2007, 01:39 AM Well...they did steal Desmond's yacht...maybe that was it...but why did they row out there and not meet at the Pala Ferry?? That made no sense to me at all...much like the entire episode. Vertical 02-22-2007, 01:42 AM Well...they did steal Desmond's yacht...maybe that was it...but why did they row out there and not meet at the Pala Ferry?? That made no sense to me at all...much like the entire episode. The Pala ferry dock is on the main island. Apparently this island has no cove suitable for a vessel that size to dock close to land. And that wasn't Desmond's boat. Des had a sailboat. This was a motor boat. From the looks of it, about a 40 footer, if not longer. lostoholic 02-22-2007, 01:46 AM That is a ship off shore. The boat in the previews looks like the one in season 1. Ben looked pretty funny laying on that boat! Selene1212 02-22-2007, 03:15 AM Maybe I'm getting old but these episodes just seem to be getting more & more confusing as they go on... :( shanzy288 02-22-2007, 03:24 AM It looked way bigger than Mike and Walt's boat Save The Humans 02-22-2007, 03:27 AM I agree--NOT the boat they gave Mike & Walt. But that angle on the steering area was deliberate, so that we'd debate this. Those sneaky PTB! goddessblue 02-22-2007, 03:34 AM It's definitely NOT the boat Michael and Walt took (which was the boat that the Others kidnapped Walt from). During the epi, it looked to me like the boat on the horizon was larger than the boat at the end of the show. But after looking at the screencap, I truly believe it was the same boat. They rowed out to the larger boat and Jack and Juliet were standing at the bow at the end of the show. jbdean 02-22-2007, 03:41 AM From the quick glance I saw, it looked MUCH larger than the little dingy at the end of season 1, but from the previews, it appears Jack and Juliet are on a boat that very much resembles the season 1 boat ... but that one on the horizon looked like a yacht, not a tiny little fishing dingy. Plus, as mentioned above, they gave that boat to Michael and Walt.That was a ship, not a boat. It was a liner. The ending of this episode really confused me for some reason. They show Jack leave with Ben and a couple others in the small row boat, with a larger boat (looked more like a ship to me) in the background. It took me a second, but I was like, oh, ok they are going back to the other island ("home" for Ben). But what was weird was that that boat seemed a really long way off. If they were going to row that far out just to get to that boat, couldn't they just row over to the island?? :confused: Then they show Jack and Juliet together on a boat. A boat that looks a lot like the boat they gave Michael. When and how did Juliet (and presumably the other Others) get to the boat? How many boats do they have? I don't know. For some reason none of it really made much sense to me. I guess, I understand the overall idea of it, but the way it was shown was very confusing and non-sensical (or maybe that's just me!:rolleyes: ) Anyway, I felt this whole episode had a very sort of disjointed feeling to it. It seemed to jump around a lot and just didn't flow or fit together very well. And that is a major thing for me to say because I rarely have any criticisms of the show. It was still an ok episode - just not a great one.It was a very long way off and there was no island behind it so it was not located between the Hydra and the Losties' island. But the boat that we saw Jack and Juliet on didn't look at all like that ship out at sea. I don't know if they were supposed to be the same but they weren't the same. I'm going to get a cap from my DVD as soon as it finishes finalizing and then I'll be back to share. :biggrin: johnnywishbone 02-22-2007, 03:44 AM I agree--NOT the boat they gave Mike & Walt. But that angle on the steering area was deliberate, so that we'd debate this. Those sneaky PTB! yup. totally not the same boat they gave to Michael and Walt. these are the best shots i could find, but you can plainly see it's much too small to be the boat from tonight. http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season2/finale/27/normal_livediecap1345.jpg http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season2/finale/27/normal_livediecap1335.jpg http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season2/finale/27/normal_livediecap1344.jpg jbdean 02-22-2007, 04:15 AM OKay, I WAS WRONG. I have caps and it is not a liner or ship. It is the same boat that we see Jack and Juliet in. Look closely at the front of the boat out at sea in the 1st pix. You can see the cab area where the capt. is and the front where Juliet and Jack are standing. BOAT AT SEA 01 (http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ship01jo1.jpg) BOAT AT SEA 02 (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ship02kn8.jpg) BOAT WITH J&J 01 (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boatjj01kq3.jpg) BOAT WITH J&J 02 (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boatjj02si0.jpg) goddessblue 02-22-2007, 04:18 AM OKay, I WAS WRONG. I have caps and it is not a liner or ship. It is the same boat that we see Jack and Juliet in. Look closely at the front of the boat out at sea in the 1st pix. You can see the cab area where the capt. is and the front where Juliet and Jack are standing. BOAT AT SEA 01 (http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ship01jo1.jpg) BOAT AT SEA 02 (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ship02kn8.jpg) BOAT WITH J&J 01 (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boatjj01kq3.jpg) BOAT WITH J&J 02 (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boatjj02si0.jpg) Yes! I was the same as you, jbdean. During the show, I thought the boat on the horizon looked larger. But after viewing the caps, I'm convinced it's the same ship. sandiego6656 02-22-2007, 04:47 AM i agree that docked out at sea it looked like a much bigger boat than what walt and michael were on. the boat juliet and jack and alex were on looked like a cargo ship. the only thing that makes me think it was the same boat is the preview from next week showing vincent is back. if anyone bought season 2 on DVD, in the extra features they show background on the scene where michael and walt leave the island. vincent (the dog) is on the boat when they get on it. this was not shown on the show and i always wondered why. so i found it strange to see a boat that looked a lot like the boat that michael and walt were on, and then see vincent is suddenly back. it seems to suggest that michael and walt's boat never really got away from the island. jbdean 02-22-2007, 05:01 AM i agree that docked out at sea it looked like a much bigger boat than what walt and michael were on. the boat juliet and jack and alex were on looked like a cargo ship. the only thing that makes me think it was the same boat is the preview from next week showing vincent is back. if anyone bought season 2 on DVD, in the extra features they show background on the scene where michael and walt leave the island. vincent (the dog) is on the boat when they get on it. this was not shown on the show and i always wondered why. so i found it strange to see a boat that looked a lot like the boat that michael and walt were on, and then see vincent is suddenly back. it seems to suggest that michael and walt's boat never really got away from the island. But the DVD also explained that they didn't show that scene because Vincent did not go with Michael and Walt. It's not the tug boat that they left in. This boat is much bigger goddessblue 02-22-2007, 05:04 AM :shesaid: Exactly. Look at the screencaps johnnywishbone posted then look at the ones jbdean posted. No way that's the same boat. jbdean 02-22-2007, 05:07 AM :shesaid: Exactly. Look at the screencaps johnnywishbone posted then look at the ones jbdean posted. No way that's the same boat.:biggrin: Now what I want to know is where are they getting all the fuel for these boats? That's a big boat and needs a lot of fuel. I'm gonna' kick myself if they're near the outside world all along. :mad: goddessblue 02-22-2007, 05:10 AM Sheesh, jbdean. You're making my brain hurt. :doh: I didn't think of that!! jbdean 02-22-2007, 05:12 AM Sheesh, jbdean. You're making my brain hurt. :doh: I didn't think of that!!LOL It's all clues. When Walt was taken I thought I saw fire on the tug so I thought it had a wood burning engine of some kind but when we saw it with Michael and Walt it was clearly a gasoline engine or something like that. This huge boat has to use some kind of liquid fuel. No sails and too big to be wood burning ... also no smoke. Maybe they have an off-shore oil station! Flagg1982 02-22-2007, 11:23 AM The boat is the Research Vessel Rousseau and her team used to get to the island. lostlocke 02-22-2007, 11:36 AM I was amazed by seeing this, i wasn't sure if I was seeing things or not, but I guess if everyone saw it, then I'm not crazy! Definitely agree that it's not the same boat that Michael and Walt took. jbdean 02-22-2007, 12:04 PM The boat is the Research Vessel Rousseau and her team used to get to the island. Wow! That is totally the best idea yet! Do you know for sure or are you using an educated guess? The reason I ask is that 1] Danielle said her boat crashed & 2] there was a map of hers at the ABC site during season 1 that showed the boat and while it kind of resembled this one, it was much, much smaller. But I like the idea and it does make sense if it is. But wouldn't she have noticed it missing after 16 years? That boat is too big to just wash out to sea ... Oh and if you know for sure ... you'll need to spoiler font that. I've done it in your quote above just in case. ETA: I removed the spoiler font since you replied saying it was a guess. Lost_In_NJ 02-22-2007, 12:13 PM At first glace of it on the horizon, I thought it was a cruise ship! Silly me :) Flagg1982 02-22-2007, 12:16 PM Wow! That is totally the best idea yet! Do you know for sure or are you using an educated guess? . It's just a guess. But we know how much the others like boats, Ben wanted Desmond's boat, so it would make sense that they took Danielle and her team's ship. johnnywishbone 02-22-2007, 12:20 PM The boat is the Research Vessel Rousseau and her team used to get to the island. that is a great theory unless it's not just a theory and you know something like JB mentioned although it's not crazy to think that Dharma would have a boat that size since experiments were ongoing on both islands back when the islands were actually functioning as intended. equipment and supplies prolly needed to be taken back and forth, and the littler "walt and michael" boat would not have been capable of that edit: just saw you posted above me Flagg, and that it is just a theory, so i removed the spoiler font. jbdean 02-22-2007, 12:38 PM It's just a guess. But we know how much the others like boats, Ben wanted Desmond's boat, so it would make sense that they took Danielle and her team's ship.But I'm still leaning more towards it just being theirs (the Others) since I still think Danielle would have noticed her boat missing in 16 years of being on the island. I think what they're maybe telling us with this clue is that there might be any combination of the following: another island is nearby they're closer to main land than the Losties know they are part of DHARMA and the research Ebdim9th 02-22-2007, 12:53 PM I thought it looked like either a yacht or a Coast Guard cutter. Both types of vessels are capable of making it out into open sea, and, in the case of some yachts, longer voyages, although they showed on the Travel Channel, some being loaded onto a large ship, although there was some implication that was to keep them in pristine condition, not because they were incapable of making the trip themselves. Cutters are often used to rescue people from ships in the roughest of weather, so maybe they could conceivably make a deep-sea international trek to get fuel and supplies as well. Then there is the question of the sub and the supply-drops. Although I wonder if, partly, "sub" wasn't a code-name for the procurement of The Elizabeth, Des's sailboat. Still, they might have a submarine visiting them on top of that. Dharma is dead, but Mittlewerk's post-Hanso vision is not, and that may be the "Jacob" they're signed on with, after abandoning Alvar's Dharma Initiative. jinandtonic 02-22-2007, 01:06 PM it seemed like a cruise ship to me.... It looked that way to me too. I wasn't sure if we were seeing Jack's flashback in Thailand for a second, it seemed that out of place. jbdean 02-22-2007, 01:11 PM I thought it looked like either a yacht or a Coast Guard cutter. Both types of vessels are capable of making it out into open sea, and, in the case of some yachts, longer voyages, although they showed on the Travel Channel, some being loaded onto a large ship, although there was some implication that was to keep them in pristine condition, not because they were incapable of making the trip themselves. Cutters are often used to rescue people from ships in the roughest of weather, so maybe they could conceivably make a deep-sea international trek to get fuel and supplies as well. Then there is the question of the sub and the supply-drops. Although I wonder if, partly, "sub" wasn't a code-name for the procurement of The Elizabeth, Des's sailboat. Still, they might have a submarine visiting them on top of that. Dharma is dead, but Mittlewerk's post-Hanso vision is not, and that may be the "Jacob" they're signed on with, after abandoning Alvar's Dharma Initiative.It sure does look like a CG Cutter! I should have thought of that. Very good. That "sub" being the arrival of the Eliz ... you might be right on that. I never stopped to think that if they had the boat, why would they be arriving by sub? But it could just be a sub and they used it to get there from wherever they stashed the Eliz. Ebdim9th 02-22-2007, 01:28 PM Or it could be a visiting supply sub from Mittlewerk's Hanso. ~jb~ Lexxxxx 02-22-2007, 01:56 PM I'm more focussed on the smaller boat - a rowboat, really - on which they transported their inimitable leader who had just undergone major back surgery ("you may not walk again"). To me, that's ridiculous! Couldn't they find a bigger boat to convey one of their most important people into treacherous waters? They WORK there, They LIVE across the Strait of Jacob (or whatever you want to call it). Why haven't they built more or better boats? I, personally, would rather be in the boat Alex supplied Sawyer and Kate than that little dinghy. With its outriggger, it's definitely more seaworthy. One rogue wave and Ben is sleepin' with the Dharma fishes! Ebdim9th 02-22-2007, 02:03 PM Maybe it was sturdier and more often used than it looked, or maybe it was a minor plot inconsistency, like Ben wearing the same shirt in both the flashback and "present-time" parts of A Tale of Two Cities. Maybe the island or Smokey, or both, kept the waters in check for them. Or a Dharma dolphin. jbdean 02-22-2007, 02:11 PM Or it could be a visiting supply sub from Mittlewerk's Hanso. ~jb~Could be but I'm thinking that it has to be one of their own regular vessles. But could still be a supply ship that goes back and forth from ... somewhere. I'm more focussed on the smaller boat - a rowboat, really - on which they transported their inimitable leader who had just undergone major back surgery ("you may not walk again"). To me, that's ridiculous! Couldn't they find a bigger boat to convey one of their most important people into treacherous waters? They WORK there, They LIVE across the Strait of Jacob (or whatever you want to call it). Why haven't they built more or better boats? I, personally, would rather be in the boat Alex supplied Sawyer and Kate than that little dinghy. With its outriggger, it's definitely more seaworthy. One rogue wave and Ben is sleepin' with the Dharma fishes!Why didn't they just use Desmond's boat? I thought it was odd too. That small boat reminded me of what they sent Colleen out on when they had her funeral! MinnieVanMommie 02-22-2007, 02:20 PM Personally I think maybe TPTB just goofed... Hawaii has soooo many dinner cruises running around that island...that it is possible one was just in the shot... johnnywishbone 02-22-2007, 02:26 PM Personally I think maybe TPTB just goofed... Hawaii has soooo many dinner cruises running around that island...that it is possible one was just in the shot... honestly? Now that is one explanation that I just don't buy. I mean, that is one huge goof, if it indeed is true. Or am I misunderstanding your post? Not too mention it wouldn't take anytime at all for them to remove during editing. Dolphincrc 02-22-2007, 03:00 PM it seemed like a cruise ship to me.... to me it looked more like a research vessel- kind of like the one Rousseau's team would have used...Hmm Zatherran 02-22-2007, 03:04 PM if that is the boat that michael used. where is michael! do they have more than one boat? but that boat on the horizon was larger and didnt look like sail boat to me.. jbdean 02-22-2007, 03:06 PM Personally I think maybe TPTB just goofed... Hawaii has soooo many dinner cruises running around that island...that it is possible one was just in the shot...I'm sorry but this is not a car that is spotted off in the distance for a few seconds and is missed in the editing room. This is a huge boat that is in two different shots and clear enough to see on non-HD-TV. This isn't a goof. Also if you look at the caps I shared here, a few posts back, you'll see that the bow where J&J are standing is the same as the boat on the horizon. johnnywishbone 02-22-2007, 03:31 PM if that is the boat that michael used. where is michael! do they have more than one boat? but that boat on the horizon was larger and didnt look like sail boat to me.. if you take a look at the screencaps provided in this thread, you'll see that it is definitely not the same boat they gave to Michael and Walt. Also, it was definitely not a sailboat.....the sailboat was Desmond's and was not the boat given to Michael and Walt. Born Acorn 02-22-2007, 04:18 PM They've already explained fuel. Airdrops. The facility (Station 2 of 6, The Anchor? :p ) where they may dock has a fuel requirement, so it's Airdrop would most likely have fuel. jbdean 02-22-2007, 05:04 PM They've already explained fuel. Airdrops. The facility (Station 2 of 6, The Anchor? :p ) where they may dock has a fuel requirement, so it's Airdrop would most likely have fuel.Who is "they?" Not the show from eppys we've seen yet that I can recall. Could explain? Thanks :biggrin: Be sure to spoiler font stuff if you've heard it from an official source but it's not aired yet. Born Acorn 02-22-2007, 07:31 PM Well, I was referring to The Swan's airdrop. Why wouldn't other stations get regular supplies? jbdean 02-22-2007, 08:31 PM Well, I was referring to The Swan's airdrop. Why wouldn't other stations get regular supplies?Oh! Now I get it. LOL Sorry 'bout that. Well, I don't know why/why not but we do know that the Pearl wouldn't have needed it since they only worked in shifts and left by the Pala Ferry. Depending on who was still working for DHARMA that they knew or cared were still there, I'd say only ones where the person was stuck inside all the time, like the Swan. The Hydra, the Staff and the Pearl had people coming and going so they probably got their supplies by sea and not air dropped. The Flame and possibly the Arrow are the only two that we don't know anything at all about. We have seen the inside of the Arrow but it was never fully explored (and I could have sworn there was a hall or passageway to the left of the TV screen when they showed the inside to us but I'll have to go back and check my discs) and we most likely saw the inside of the Flame when we saw Patchy and he looks like he may have a tied-to-the-station assignment like Kelvin and Des had so he might need supplies dropped ... unless he's able to move around more and not on such a tigth schedue as the Swaners were. My theory on the food drop is that it came by helicopter. That is why no one heard a plane. The helicopter could have come over by that boat and then flown over to make the drop or there could be someplace else on the main island, the Hydra or a 3rd island that gets the drops by boat and then the chopper flys it over to the main island. seaquelost 02-22-2007, 09:16 PM I posted this a.m. on the "Final Scene of the Boat" thread that this looked like pretty big boat/ship. No one responded....glad to see someone brought it up. My first thought was Danille's research vessel. Here's a pic of a french research vessel. http://www.researchvessels.org/country/France/Atalante/atalante.jpg jbdean 02-23-2007, 12:53 AM I posted this a.m. on the "Final Scene of the Boat" thread that this looked like pretty big boat/ship. No one responded....glad to see someone brought it up. My first thought was Danille's research vessel. Here's a pic of a french research vessel. http://www.researchvessels.org/country/France/Atalante/atalante.jpgThat boat is definitely close but on closer inspection of my cap of the boat being discussed, I think it is an auto ferry boat. Here are some pix I found of some: http://www.holboxisland.com/photos_new/transport/boat_chiquila2.jpg http://hotels.venicexplorer.net/venice-hotels-index-graphics/Venice-Lido-Hotels-ferry-boat.jpg http://www.fotolibra.com/gallery/image/?s=5346019&sid=14 (I think this one looks the closest) http://www.fotolibra.com/gallery/image/?s=5346019&sid=1172 (this one also looks similar) But I think yours really is a possibility. But I still would want to know why Danielle never noticed it missing. Ebdim9th 02-23-2007, 01:25 PM Distances can be decieving, in a photograph or otherwise, but judging by the bulk of the conning tower, I'd say that research vessel was quite a bit larger than our "Pala Ferry(?)"... Also, international travel is possible with a cutter or yacht, but not recommended. I would assume, if youre going to do research that far out to sea, you'd pick a ship certain to be able to handle most situations in the deep seas. Loz 02-23-2007, 01:49 PM if that is the boat that michael used. where is michael! do they have more than one boat? but that boat on the horizon was larger and didnt look like sail boat to me.. I probably did not see correctly, but in the first few minutes of the last show it seemed like one of the guards who escorted Jack or Juliet (don't remember which one) bore a resemblance to Michael. It was in a hallway, and the lighting was very dark, but the profile seemed to match. Does anyone have a screen cap of this? Ebdim9th 02-23-2007, 01:58 PM Somebody asked that before, and I can't remember who, but they identified that actor as somebody else. It was when he was taking Jack with that bag over his head and the loud speakers blaring to cover the sounds of Kate and Sawyers' yelling from their cages as he passed by. It's the same Michael look-alike guy as from that scene/epi. The Great One 02-23-2007, 04:08 PM or perhaps if you followed last summers Lost Experience, perhaps it's part of the convoy escorting the Helgus Antonius!!! jbdean 02-23-2007, 07:24 PM Distances can be decieving, in a photograph or otherwise, but judging by the bulk of the conning tower, I'd say that research vessel was quite a bit larger than our "Pala Ferry(?)"... Also, international travel is possible with a cutter or yacht, but not recommended. I would assume, if youre going to do research that far out to sea, you'd pick a ship certain to be able to handle most situations in the deep seas.Yea, the more I think about it a ferry of any size would not be much good trying to get to the island. Of course if its only use is between islands then it would work. But that boat did look really big and it was quite a ways off. Most likely the research vessle that someone else posted. Ebdim9th 02-23-2007, 08:31 PM My dad went with an environmental expedition to Antarctica. They were in a huge ship and it was tossed about by 50 to 100 foot waves or more. And that was typical ocean-wave activity. Nothing special. I'm not sure I would have trusted even that French research vessel pictured to handle that kind of conditions. It might have, just not very well. In the Great Lakes the waves get so big that in the late '60's a huge oil tanker plowed straight into one and shot right down to the bottom like one of Hurley's spears. The boat in the background looked roughly the same size at a distance as the one they were riding in up close. From screencaps and so forth, its most likely the same vessel. It might brave the high seas, high for a reason, but probably not unless it was absolutely necessary. seaquelost 02-23-2007, 09:37 PM Wow, these research vessels get big. For those interested, here's a link to some American research vessels. There's four vessels on this link in varying sizes. http://www.whoi.edu/marops/research_vessels/atlantis/index.html Ebdim9th 02-23-2007, 09:51 PM That last one, the Tioga actually looked close in size to the one on the show. And the description that went with it said it was used mostly for coastal work, smaller and faster than the larger ocean-going ships featured, which also fits the "coast guard cutter" speculation I was thinking of earlier. cool_freeze 02-23-2007, 09:54 PM I laughed so hard when I saw this thread. The reason being is that when I saw the boat in the distance I instantly though "The Fuseys will be all over that in the morning." The next time I look at the threads the first thread i see is this one...I REALLY LAUGHED! You all have good points though. Another reason I laughed is because that is what the writers and producers wanted. They wanted to spark more questions. I LOVE THIS SHOW!! AHHAHAHA!! LOL! seaquelost 02-23-2007, 10:00 PM I laughed so hard when I saw this thread. The reason being is that when I saw the boat in the distance I instantly though "The Fuseys will be all over that in the morning." The next time I look at the threads the first thread i see is this one...I REALLY LAUGHED! You all have good points though. Another reason I laughed is because that is what the writers and producers wanted. They wanted to spark more questions. I LOVE THIS SHOW!! AHHAHAHA!! LOL! lol....I know. My original post was made at 7am (on another thread). I took time before heading out to work to post it. Not much else to post about this though, really. Guess we'll just have to watch, wait, and see. :smile: cool_freeze 02-23-2007, 10:16 PM lol....I know. My original post was made at 7am (on another thread). I took time before heading out to work to post it. Not much else to post about this though, really. Guess we'll just have to watch, wait, and see. :smile: Good work! :cool: Ebdim9th 02-23-2007, 10:28 PM Even though I believed, for myself, that that portion of the epi had already explained itself, this looked to be one of the more interesting threads on the episode rather than the ones that seem to say "this show sucks, this episode sucks, the cast and crew suck, and I'm picking up my jacks and going home, so there!!" So I jumped in for the fun of it, since that's what entertainment is ultimately supposed to be... cool_freeze 02-23-2007, 10:35 PM Even though I believed, for myself, that that portion of the epi had already explained itself, this looked to be one of the more interesting threads on the episode rather than the ones that seem to say "this show sucks, this episode sucks, the cast and crew suck, and I'm picking up my jacks and going home, so there!!" So I jumped in for the fun of it, since that's what entertainment is ultimately supposed to be... WOW! Thats one of the brightest things I've heard today. GOOD THINKING! Ebdim9th 02-23-2007, 10:40 PM Thanks, I enjoy discussing the episodes with you and people like you. seaquelost 02-23-2007, 10:44 PM That last one, the Tioga actually looked close in size to the one on the show. And the description that went with it said it was used mostly for coastal work, smaller and faster than the larger ocean-going ships featured, which also fits the "coast guard cutter" speculation I was thinking of earlier. I think you're right. The spec's on the Tioga say it's 60 ft in length. It's really hard to tell, though, when something is on the horizon like that. There's nothing to compare it to. (I'm lousy at judging this type of thing.) Even though I believed, for myself, that that portion of the epi had already explained itself, this looked to be one of the more interesting threads on the episode rather than the ones that seem to say "this show sucks, this episode sucks, the cast and crew suck, and I'm picking up my jacks and going home, so there!!" So I jumped in for the fun of it, since that's what entertainment is ultimately supposed to be... I know another lost fan that's facing the same problem on another board. It's their loss if they stop watching because I think that TPTB are just preparing the way to bigger and better things to come. We just need to relax and kick-back and enjoy the ride. :biggrin: Ebdim9th 02-23-2007, 10:51 PM The fun I have and the thought-provoking entertainment value I get far outweigh any initial frustration I may have had about no immediate major reveals in every, or every other, episode. Every other Other. I'll never look at, or use, that word the same way again. cool_freeze 02-23-2007, 11:37 PM I think you're right. The spec's on the Tioga say it's 60 ft in length. It's really hard to tell, though, when something is on the horizon like that. There's nothing to compare it to. (I'm lousy at judging this type of thing.) I know another lost fan that's facing the same problem on another board. It's their loss if they stop watching because I think that TPTB are just preparing the way to bigger and better things to come. We just need to relax and kick-back and enjoy the ride. :biggrin: You're right. We can only say it so many times seaquelost and yet they still want to argue. Ebdim9th 02-23-2007, 11:53 PM That level of bitterness speaks rather strongly of projection issues rather than actual deep-seated problems with the creative direction of the show's writers, directors et al. goddessblue 02-24-2007, 12:05 AM Just wanna agree with the last few poster's discussion. I'm in it for the long haul, too. But it does make me laugh to myself....with pretty much ANY other show on television, we'd accept that the boat on the horizon was the boat Jack and Juliet were on in the end. But this is LOST, lmao. We have to dicuss it for 8 pages and research every dang boat ever seen in the past 2.5 seasons! :lol: I'm talkin' about myself, too. I've been posting in this thread as well. :biggrin: Ebdim9th 02-24-2007, 12:14 AM Wait. You mean this isn't an on-line library/classroom? Whoops! My bad... cool_freeze 02-24-2007, 01:18 AM Wait. You mean this isn't an on-line library/classroom? Whoops! My bad... LOL HAHAHAHHAHAHA!! Good one. Ebdim9th 02-24-2007, 02:31 AM Jack Black has a sequel out, its called The School of LOST. |