When Jack & Juliet were looking over the rail of the boat, & the music was playing...
did anyone else get the feeling that this scene would be ideal for the final scene of the series finale? (only with Jack & Kate / Sawyer & Kate looking off to the horizon - finally heading home!)

Yeah - I know - I'm a hopless romantic...but that's how I want the series to end!

I see your Jack&Kate/Sawyer&Kate on the balcony of the rescue boat and raise you one Sayid, a Hurley and a Charlie/Claire/Aaron. Plus Captain Locke looking a little too much like Popeye. =D

I know what you mean, I thought the exact same thing for that scene.Instead with most of the losties and that music they always play when someone dies.

I see your Jack&Kate/Sawyer&Kate on the balcony of the rescue boat and raise you one Sayid, a Hurley and a Charlie/Claire/Aaron. Plus Captain Locke looking a little too much like Popeye. =D


I see all of that, and raise you a drunk Desmond & Ben as cabin boy!!! :biggrin:

The whole scene on the boat was really confusing especially with the sappy music. I do not know what to take from it.

That's a pretty big boat/ship. You can see it in the distance while Jules/Jack are on the row boat. It sure didn't look like the Pala ferry.

I felt at that moment like I was experiencing the end of a chapter in a book...or the end of a book in a multibook series. I thought it was kind of refreshing.

I thought it was a pretty poignant end to the whole Alcatraz Island part of season 3 - I almost think they should've done these 8 eps as the mini-season and ended on this ep.

yes I was thinking this same thing! IN fact I couldn't help but think what a waste that scene actually was. It was scored so beautifully and had such a nice montage of scenes but given that the stories were told so badly, I felt virtually no impact. And that this musical montage was meant more as a filler and for easily swayed romantics to like an otherwise meaningless and silly episode.


I could totally see a scene with that music as a finale for if they ever get off the island. Or for Michael and Walt last year.

I felt at that moment like I was experiencing the end of a chapter in a book...or the end of a book in a multibook series. I thought it was kind of refreshing.

that would make sense seeing as jack is almost accepting a "position" among the others now.
Also its like Jack's new new beginning now.. as for the fact that now he will live within the others's community, if u want to call it that...

I agree. The end did not have much impact on me either, even if I really wanted it to.

As far as the meaning of this scene, I think in a sense it was a "going home"...as Jack will now have a completely different experience on the Island...hence, the powerful score and nostalgic mood.

Does anyone know if this was right when Matthew left to film We Are Marshall? Will he be gone for the next few episodes?

Sorry. All I had running in my head was the song "Somewhere Out There" from An American Tail.

that would make sense seeing as jack is almost accepting a "position" among the others now.
Also its like Jack's new new beginning now.. as for the fact that now he will live within the others's community, if u want to call it that...

GOD I just can't bring myself to accept this. As much as he hates all of them...like "if ya can't beat em, join em". Dang, that sucks.

Wow, I got a totally different feeling from this scene. I'm surprised the posts re: this were so cynical.

Okay Alex and Karl looking at their consellation was kinda corny but they are teenagers, allow them that corniness.

But what about the symbolism of the scene where Sawyer lights Kate's stick with his own. He was answering her question about (sorry this may not make sense gotta get my daughter to school and I'm in a hurry...awww wth, she can be late;) ) should be walk next to him or walk ten paces behind him. I'm not wording it right but I thought it was very symbolic and poignant.

Every episode it like watching a movie to me. The score is unbelievable.

Maybe this spawns a sub thread: http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=70327

I think the intention was to give a dramatic ending to the Alcatraz arc, and to signify that a major part of Jack's story on the island is coming to a close. It was also clearly intended to imply a potential romance between Jack and Juliet.

However, I agree that the impact has been lost because so much of the Alcatraz arc was poorly executed. The same information could have been condensed into four episodes, and I almost wish they had started the season that way with no interruptions, no island scenes spliced in between, to make that arc a concentrated bit of storytelling and then move on to other parts of the story.

I see all of that, and raise you a drunk Desmond & Ben as cabin boy!!! :biggrin:

Nah, not Ben. He can fall off.

But even though this is kind of a closing story for Jack as he goes to live with the others, I find myself begging for something along the lines of "the Other 48 Days" when we return to Jack! Not because I care about the budding relationship between him and Juliet, though, but if the producers and writers want to give ANY credit to the logical state of Jack's mind and credit to how everyone on the entire beach has been living lately, Jack should be SEVERELY shaken up to find Othersville with indoor plumbing and a book club! I don't think Jack would want anything to DO with modern living when his group of people - and I hope he hasn't abandoned them and this episode made me think he still hasn't - are still on the beach. What needs to happen is Jack needs to orchestrate a plan that kills all the Others so then the Losties inhabit the houses and then find that darn radio tower.

But actually, part of me just feels like they're killing the arc (and I know they are about Alcatraz) but they're killing the Jack storyline just where it might be getting interesting. I know from an EW article that the next time we see him (potentially not TOO far away, episode 11 or something?) he'll be throwing football with Tom/Mr. Friendly and everyone is supposed to wonder if he's been brainwashed. But, still, it actually IS a big shocker that the Others have modern houses on the Island, and that's what made Season Three's premiere first act so brilliant.

But when Jack sees that, I suppose we might not know what he thinks or will say. He's been quite witty and true to his friends even in this episode - out of nowhere he mentioned Charlie getting hung from the tree, and he was outright vicious (and rightfully so of course) to Cindy and the children... hah. "How's Ana-Lucia?" - "Are you kidding me?!" gah, I wish he would have said right then and there "THESE people stole a child and made its father into a homicidal maniac and he KILLED Ana Lucia." Should have said that RIGHT to the little girl, and shaken that trust between Cindy and The Others that appears to exist.

Alas, the boat scene as we return to the big island is a good farewell to Alcatraz for now. The only problem is, Kate is mobilizing Sayid and Locke to go back there, and if they don't get held up by the discovery of the Flame, they're gonna end up going to an empty island, going to rescue Jack when he's on the main island again. They just have no way of knowing - and it's just more examples of everyone being separated...

I was thinking the same exact thing, it felt like a series finale.

I get confused about Jack's smugness. I know that he takes some pride in getting himself and Juliet off of Alcatraz alive, with the hope of still going home. But that boy is so crazy when it comes to girls. He can never help himself. And you can't forget that he told Ben that he just wanted off the Island, period. He didn't care about anything else, he just wanted off. So when Tom remarks on the fact that his "friends" just high tailed it out of there, without a look black, he tells him to shut up, because it's like he's trying not to be concerned with them, he just wants to go home.

I know what you mean, I thought the exact same thing for that scene.Instead with most of the losties and that music they always play when someone dies.
That's funny, I was thinking Titanic!

In fact, it's the end of Jack rol.....well until 18-20 episode...