Way back towards the middle/end of Season 1, we found out in the words of Danielle Rousseau that there are "others on this island." (emphasis lower-cased) She never saw them, but she could hear them. John Locke also said, "There are other people on this island, and we all know it." It's not till the end of season 1 or begining of Season 2, we begin to call them, "The Others."

The Losties and the audience has called them the Others because they are so mysterious and scary. Granted, there are still BIG mysteries we want to find out. But, now that there are faces, names, and vulnerabilities we can attach to these "Others," we now in boards call these "Others" by names now. We now call the scary-bearded man (Mr. Friendly/Zeke) by Tom, not to mention the favorite quote, "I'm Tom, by the way." With Henry Gale, his name has evolved from Fenry to Benry to just plain Ben; we see him as someone who is a cunning leader to a tumor patient who at one moment became a medical hostage. We know Juliet from a manipulative lady to someone who became a damsel in distress.

I'm not saying this group is good, in fact I don't see the Losties that great either. Because of the character development in each of the characters mentioned above, "Others" just seems less and less appropriate because we learn more and more about them in each episode.

So what do you guys think? Should these people still be called the Others, and if not what should we call them from this point on?

*breaks out a scratchy copy of the soundtrack from Fiddler On The Roof and begins a Jewish folkdance*

~~Tradition!~~

But seriously. At this point, we really have nothing else to call them. We don't know a name of their village and to my knowledge we don't know what they call themselves. If indeed they have any collective way of referring to themselves at all.

I think we're stuck with the Others until we're given a little more information to deal with. And even then, it's going to be difficult to make a name change stick.

True that Sheba! There is not enough info (lol..as if there ever will be) to call them anything else. The Others they will probably remain until something better comes along = )

I don't think they'll ever be called anything else. We refer to them by their first names as individuals, but as a group what else would there be to call them? At this point, I don't see anything else that seems more appropriate.

That's what they'll always be I think. Like everyone else said what would we call them?!! The others will always be others for the survivors of flight 815 though, so i don't see any point in time when they would stop calling them that.

theyll always be The Others ,to me...im telling ya:redface:

Way back towards the middle/end of Season 1, we found out in the words of Danielle Rousseau that there are "others on this island." (emphasis lower-cased) She never saw them, but she could hear them. John Locke also said, "There are other people on this island, and we all know it." It's not till the end of season 1 or begining of Season 2, we begin to call them, "The Others."

Locke's words in season 1's episode 17, "... In Translation", were actually:

We're so intent on pointing the finger at one another that we're ignoring the simple undeniable truth that the problem isn't here, it's there. They've attacked us, sabotaged us, abducted us, murdered us. Maybe it's time we stop blaming us and start worrying about them. We're not the only people on this island and we all know it.

Locke uses the term "they", or "them", rather than "Others" (in fact, the term lived on until season 2's episode 14, "One of Them").

Anyway, the term "Others" first came up in season 1's episode 9, "Solitary".

DANIELLE: I broadcast from somewhere else. But they control it now.

SAYID: They?

DANIELLE: You. And the others like you.

And:

DANIELLE: We were coming back from the Black Rock. It was them. They were the carriers.

SAYID: Who were the carriers?

DANIELLE: The others.

That was the first (vague) coining of the term "Others".

From season 1's episode 11, "All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues":

LOCKE: Sayid said there were others.

JACK: Sayid said we're not alone.

And:

SAYID: She said that there are others on this island.

SAWYER: Her people?

SAYID: No. She believed that they had all gotten sick. She murdered her entire team.

That's still a general assessment about "other people".

From season 1's episode 12; "Whatever the Case May Be":

JACK: Sayid, I need you to take me back to the French woman, Rousseau. Claire's still out there. Now, Rousseau mentioned that there are others on this island.

SAYID: Her mind is gone.

The term "Others" finally gets fully introduced as a name for the mysterious group of people terrorizing the Losties in season 1's episode 23, "Exodus Part 1".

DANIELLE: The Others are coming.

And:

JACK: Who's coming?

DANIELLE: The Others. You have only three choices -- run, hide, or die.

And:

SAYID: This is a mistake. We don't know anything about these 'Others'. We're reacting with no information, no intelligence. This hatch might even be theirs. Black smoke on the horizon doesn't mean they're...

DANIELLE: It means they're coming.

The Losties finally start adapting the term themselves in part 2:

SAYID: Rousseau said the Others wouldn't be here until nightfall.

CHARLIE: Rousseau is certifiable. What if they show up before then and...

And:

CHARLIE: Are you bloody joking? Why would she go for the black smoke? Isn't that where the Others are supposed to be?

SAYID: The Others are precisely why she would go there. Rousseau told us she saw black smoke the day her own child was taken 16 years ago. They took something from her, and now she believes she has something that they want.

And:

CHARLIE: I've got him. There never were any Others. You started the fires yourself.

DANIELLE: No, I heard them whispering.

CHARLIE: You're a nut job. You heard nothing.

DANIELLE: I heard them say they were coming for the child. The Others said they were coming for the boy.

CHARLIE: You're pathetic.

From season 2's episode 1, "Man of Science, Man of Faith":

HURLEY: Really? Wow, usually you're, like, Mr. Haha. There you go. Life's not so bad, right? I mean, sure the Others are coming to, like, eat us all -- and every once in a while someone blows up all over you, but you do get to sleep in every morning.

And:

SHANNON: Did you see them? Did you see the Others?

CHARLIE: Hey, Shannon, there are no Others; we've already had this conversation.

And:

LOCKE: I doubt it. In fact, you're right. The safest thing is to stay here -- wait for morning -- wait for these Others, to see if they show up -- wait for the brave folks on the raft to bring help -- but me, I'm tired of waiting.

As a continuity error, season 2's episode 2, "Adrift", has this:

SAWYER: It wasn't the flare. I said it wasn't the flare. Those people that did this -- at first I thought they were fisherman or pirates or something. Then I got a good look at their boat. You know anything about boats, Mike? A boat like that wasn't built for the open ocean -- water's coming over the side with the first little squall -- maybe got a range of 100 miles. Nope, a boat like that had to have left port from somewhere close -- like the island. French chick said the Others were coming for a kid. I think they came, Mike.

And, of course, who could forget Jin's reaction upon escaping the Tailies?

Others. Others. Others.

On season 2's episode 5, "... And Found", Jin uses the term in the presence of one of the Tailies.

EKO: His name was Goodwin.

JIN: Others?

To which Eko nods. Of course, there's the double meaning of Jin asking whether Goodwin was killed by the Others, whereas in fact, he was one of the Other shimself (which Eko might or might not know). It has to be noted that up to this point the Tailies weren't aware of the term "Others", yet apparently still understand what it's supposed to refer to. The Tailies use the terms "they" and "them", most prominently in the scene in season 2's "The Other 48 Days" where Bernard picks up Boone's transmission and Ana Lucia replies "It's them."

In season 2's episode 8, "Collision", when Michael and Sayid meet again, the term "Others" gets used again.

SAYID: Where is Walt?

MICHAEL: They took him -- the Others.

Season 2's episode 11, "The Hunting Party":

HURLEY: She's kind of cute, right? You know, in a I've-been-terrorized-by-the-Others-for-40-days kind of way.

So there you have it, the evolution of the term "Others".

Still, as per your initial question about the term being "Outdated": What else should we call them? I refuse referring to them as "The Good Guys", even though that's what Ben said they are.

.....The Losties and the audience has called them the Others because they are so mysterious and scary.......
.....I'm not saying this group is good, in fact I don't see the Losties that great either.......

You seem to have no problem calling the Losties, "the Losties". Should we revisit their name as well? Maybe we can call them, The Newcomers, or The Invaders, and then we'll call the Others, The Natives, or The Original Inhabitants. Gotta be "PC", you know.

Any more suggestions?

I suggest the Losties be renamed the Survivors, and the Others be renamed the Ruthless Gits.

We've got to have a collective term for the different groups on the island, and Losties (Fusies, Tailies) and Others have worked OK so far.

I don't see the problem. :shrug:

We could call the Others "The Benny's Goodman Band".:rolleyes:

Others works fine for those who are not members of the group we most identify with. There's us and there are Others.:frown: I for one identify more with the survivors of flight 815 and have grown accustomed to the term Lostees..

...(Evolution of the term Others)...

Hey, thanks for the info, Nevermore. I appreciate it - I can see you spent much time on it.

But anyway, thanks for your guys' input. I only say what I say because I remember Ben saying to Jack in Season 3, Episode (Glass Ballerina)"

Ben: You know what's crazy, Jack? A week ago, you and I were in exactly the opposite situation. I was the one locked up, and you were the one coming to visit. And I know you were angry that I lied to you about who I was, but, hell, do you blame me? I mean, let's face it - if I told you I was one of those people you called Others for all this time, it would have been right back to Sayid and his fists, wouldn't it?

You're right, we use the term Losties, so if that's the case, what's wrong with the use of Others? There's nothing wrong with it, but my point is, Lost initially focused on the Losties, and that's it; the term other is relative based on perspective. The perspective seems to have changed more and more towards these "Others", and I just wonder how we can call them this since they dominate more and more of the show.

Another way to say this is, whatever this group/organization/government is would see the Losties as "Others." They see them as strangers, and since this is the case, should we as the audience continue to focus solely on the Losties point of view, when the point of view would be shown more for this group.

Tell me what you guys think!

Just to let you know, I'm not saying they're good guys, I'm just saying there are different perspectives.

I think the point is, this far into Lost (maybe more than half way through the whole series), we'd expect to actually have a real term for this huge focus of the show. It can be argued, of course. The losties are survivors from places all over the world who landed on the island. The others are a pinch of things here and there that we aren't too sure about.
:)

Names change as we begin to know more.

The "Fusies" and "Tallies" have become a merged tribe know as the "Losties" although we revert back to the origanl tribal names when we want to get more specific.

The "Others" will remain the "Others" until we know more about them.

Who knows, we may even find out the the group we have been refering to as the "Others" may not be who we think they are. They may be more than one group/tribe that we have merged together without meaning to.

I say they are the "others" until we can describe them better with their name for their group.

Although it is funny that almost no one refers to them as former-Dharma. Hmmm. :undecide:

I think that Stranger in A Strange Land was a pretty weak episode, except for showing us the Others' judicial system. You know, I was watching Live Together, Die Alone on Saturday for the first time, and I thought that Kelvin's choice of terms for Ben's group was the most interesting--he called them the "hostiles."

Taking everything at face value, Kelvin was pushing the button as one of the last working members of the Dharma Initiative. So Ben's group, in my mind, were "hostile" to the Dharma Initiative.

Perhaps they were participants in the DI's experiements, until they gained enough electromagnetic parapsychological powers and knowledge about genetics and utopian social engineering and then they just decided to take over the island and keep their little happy cult going (becoming hostile) and run out the remnants of the original initiative to the best of their ability. They needed someone to keep pushing the button, so they left the Swan alone.

I like the "Hostiles." I think it might be more accurate...

I'm like some of the other posters. Until we have a better name for them, they will have to either be the Others or the Hostiles. They really haven't given us anything else to call them.

...evulotion...

that was GREAT! i feel like I just watched the first two seasons. Great Work!


I do admit it feels different calling them "Others"...I caught myself thinking last week "it feels silly calling them others"

maybe "tribe"??

Locke's words in season 1's episode 17, "... In Translation", were actually:



Locke uses the term "they", or "them", rather than "Others" (in fact, the term lived on until season 2's episode 14, "One of Them").

Anyway, the term "Others" first came up in season 1's episode 9, "Solitary".



And:



That was the first (vague) coining of the term "Others".

From season 1's episode 11, "All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues":



And:



That's still a general assessment about "other people".

From season 1's episode 12; "Whatever the Case May Be":



The term "Others" finally gets fully introduced as a name for the mysterious group of people terrorizing the Losties in season 1's episode 23, "Exodus Part 1".



And:



And:



The Losties finally start adapting the term themselves in part 2:



And:



And:



From season 2's episode 1, "Man of Science, Man of Faith":



And:



And:



As a continuity error, season 2's episode 2, "Adrift", has this:



And, of course, who could forget Jin's reaction upon escaping the Tailies?



On season 2's episode 5, "... And Found", Jin uses the term in the presence of one of the Tailies.



To which Eko nods. Of course, there's the double meaning of Jin asking whether Goodwin was killed by the Others, whereas in fact, he was one of the Other shimself (which Eko might or might not know). It has to be noted that up to this point the Tailies weren't aware of the term "Others", yet apparently still understand what it's supposed to refer to. The Tailies use the terms "they" and "them", most prominently in the scene in season 2's "The Other 48 Days" where Bernard picks up Boone's transmission and Ana Lucia replies "It's them."

In season 2's episode 8, "Collision", when Michael and Sayid meet again, the term "Others" gets used again.



Season 2's episode 11, "The Hunting Party":



So there you have it, the evolution of the term "Others".

Still, as per your initial question about the term being "Outdated": What else should we call them? I refuse referring to them as "The Good Guys", even though that's what Ben said they are.

QFT. Brilliant.

I don't think they'll ever be called anything else. We refer to them by their first names as individuals, but as a group what else would there be to call them? At this point, I don't see anything else that seems more appropriate.We could call them "The Islanders"!!!:biggrin:

Maybe we should call them what Ben calls them - the Good Guys?! :biggrin:

I think the term "The Others" is so ingrained into the fandom because, if you think about it, when was the single period of time when were people talking about Lost the most? It had to have been after the season one finale, right? That whole episode was about "The Others". The Others are coming! The Others kidnapped Walt! So there was an entire summer when everyone who watched Lost was saying "The Others" over and over again.

Similarly, "the hatch" became an outdated term as soon as we went inside it. A hatch is just a door, but the term "the hatch" was constantly used to describe the Swan Station (even by Desmond, who never even saw the actual hatch from the outside!). But because that summer, everyone was wondering "what's in the hatch!!!?" and say "the hatch" over and over, it stuck too.

I'm still having a hard time remembering that Henry Gale is called Ben.

I think you're right; lets all be honest with ourselves from now on and just start referring to them as what they really are:

Klingons!!

You know, the ones from the original series that don't have ridges and are really just a clumsy metaphor for Russians. Seriously, I think "The Others" are actually just a (semi-) clumsy metaphor for terrorists.... oh television...:ohwell:

How 'bout:
The Dharmites, or
Ben's Gang, or
The Villiage People, or
Those murdering, kiddnapping, psycomanipulative, cultist good guys

The Others.

Sounds good to me!

I think that for the sake of any discussion, it makes sense to have group names that describe who is being discussed... the tailies are now with the rest of the gang.. but when someone says "the tailies" we know what group they're talking about.. when someone says the losties... we know who they are.. when someone says the others.. we know who it is.. generally the others are those that weren't in the crash minus danielle and minus desmond... they can be the d's.. or something..
:ermm:

It's going to take this conversation to even remotely stop people from referring to these people as The Others:

JACK: Ok...I've had it with your stupid games...I have a gun to your head...you don't have any of my friends held captive as leverage...No one is gonna come in and save you...now....if you don't want your brains all over your precious Hydra station walls...answer the following question!! Who are you people?

BEN: I can't tell...(Jack cocks the gun)...ok...we are called "The Dharma Collective"...Remnants of the people who were conducting scientific experiments on this island back in the 70's. Many of us born right here on the island....until recently....when we discovered the huge magnetic properties inherent on this island have rendered us sterile...and unable to conceive children...that is why we have kidnapped your children...we are trying to protect them from the same fate with the fertility drugs that Juliette developed...so that we can continue to repopulate the Collective....and live out our peaceful, happy and enlightened lives here on this Utopia of an island.

JACK: Magnetitic properties? What are you talkin about?

BEN: Alvar Hanso discovered this island quite by accident...back in the early 60's. He was searching for his great, great grandfather's lost ship...The Black Rock.

JACK: Seen it. Nice boat.

BEN: Yes....yes it is. Anyways...He traced Magnus's last known voyage here...but Alvar found much more than his ancestor's ship. He found this island. And also discovered it was so overwhelmingly magnetically charged...that it all but invisible to the naked eye...or even to radar and sonar. The magnetic properties have a way of bending light for miles around this island...you do not find this island....this island finds you. Thus making it prime real estate to create a truly utopian society...void of your old society's problems. Here we are free to expand our minds....conducting scientific research for the betterment of all mankind.

JACK: Back to the magnetic properties...Where did these magnets come from?

BEN: Space. Look...you're a great spinal surgeon...but leave the science to me...Huge magnetically charged meteorites impacted on this island eons ago....they were retrieved by Hanso's team....and their power was harrnessed by his team of scientific researchers...The Dharma Initiative...The magnets unique properties were used in all facets of scientific discovery...one of the magnets was housed in the Swan Hatch....but it's incredible power had to be tamed by reversing it's polarity every 108 minnutes....hence the button pushing duties you took to so readily.

JACK: What? Sorry....I drifted off. Why am I here?

BEN: Well....just like many of your friends from Flight 815...you pissed off some pretty important people....and you were sent here to see the error of your ways....and perhaps coexist with us here in our peaceful, shiny, happy place....where you can join our book club....and participate in our public executions/brandings of Collective members who act up and kill someone.

JACK: Collective, huh?

BEN: Yes.

JACK: Mind if we keep calling you idiots "The Others"?

BEN: Not at all...Can we keep calling you guys "Losties"?

JACK: Whatever.


Until that conversation happens...it's gonna be "The Others".

Wow! I'm going to have to say thanks to everyone for their response. Although it appears just about everyone disagrees with the title of this thread, we have profited from valuable comments. First, I get the evolution from Nevermore regarding the coined term Others, and the imagined conversation between Jack and Ben (I wish there were more in the show).

I can see that the term "The Others" is here to stay for many here. Only time will tell if this is the case.

One thing is certain, we have been more and more specific regarding this group - their names. The opposing side to our "Losties" is known as Ms. Klugh, Pickett and Colleen (both now decased), Ben, Juliet, Tom, Karl, and Alex. Although we still have questions using the word "Others," we seem to be talking about individuals more than we used to about this group, and when this happens, we seem to focus less on the group.

Those of us with a hillbilly heritage fancy "emm-uns".

Those of us with a hillbilly heritage fancy "emm-uns".:grin: Nice un maybe James & Kate will start that up when they get back?

As further support for my suggestion of "Benny's Goodman Band" I would like to point out that that would allow us to discuss their expeditions in disguise by calling those on expedition. The Ragtime Group. All of this of course fitting in with the theme of the music from their broadcast that Hurley and Sayid picked up a few episodes back.


I wonder it the Others are starting to refer to the Lostees as The Beach Boys?

Ator, well done! I think a lot of what you wrote will pan out to be the truth in the end. :thumbup1: :ntworthy:

From The Glass Ballerina:I mean, let's face it, if I had told you I was one of those people that you and your friends have been calling Others all this time it would have been right back to Sayid and his -- fists. Wouldn't it?I don't think Ben is thrilled with being called an Other very much. :)

From Stranger in a Strange Land: Juliet: They'll be coming for you in a few minutes. All of them. Your friends know where we are so we have to leave this island to go back to where live.
Jack: Go where?
Juliet: Well, Ben calls it homeSo, is that Home or home, no cap on H? Because if it's Home, then obviously they're The Homies. :)

Others is fine for now, hopefully as they delve in to the history of the Island, we'll get a better sense of what to call them. I mean, I want to call The Losties "The bunch of scumbags, daddy killers, torturers, anger management classes reject, adulterer, would sell her baby to strangers, junkie, mental case drug lord thugs" but TBOSDKTAMCRAWSHBTSJMCDLT would be too much to type every time. :biggrin:

I'm down with calling them 'Homies', homie!




See what I did there?

It's going to take this conversation to even remotely stop people from referring to these people as The Others:

JACK: Ok...I've had it with your stupid games...I have a gun to your head...you don't have any of my friends held captive as leverage...No one is gonna come in and save you...now....if you don't want your brains all over your precious Hydra station walls...answer the following question!! Who are you people?

BEN: I can't tell...(Jack cocks the gun)...ok...we are called "The Dharma Collective"...Remnants of the people who were conducting scientific experiments on this island back in the 70's. Many of us born right here on the island....until recently....when we discovered the huge magnetic properties inherent on this island have rendered us sterile...and unable to conceive children...that is why we have kidnapped your children...we are trying to protect them from the same fate with the fertility drugs that Juliette developed...so that we can continue to repopulate the Collective....and live out our peaceful, happy and enlightened lives here on this Utopia of an island.

JACK: Magnetitic properties? What are you talkin about?

BEN: Alvar Hanso discovered this island quite by accident...back in the early 60's. He was searching for his great, great grandfather's lost ship...The Black Rock.

JACK: Seen it. Nice boat.

BEN: Yes....yes it is. Anyways...He traced Magnus's last known voyage here...but Alvar found much more than his ancestor's ship. He found this island. And also discovered it was so overwhelmingly magnetically charged...that it all but invisible to the naked eye...or even to radar and sonar. The magnetic properties have a way of bending light for miles around this island...you do not find this island....this island finds you. Thus making it prime real estate to create a truly utopian society...void of your old society's problems. Here we are free to expand our minds....conducting scientific research for the betterment of all mankind.

JACK: Back to the magnetic properties...Where did these magnets come from?

BEN: Space. Look...you're a great spinal surgeon...but leave the science to me...Huge magnetically charged meteorites impacted on this island eons ago....they were retrieved by Hanso's team....and their power was harrnessed by his team of scientific researchers...The Dharma Initiative...The magnets unique properties were used in all facets of scientific discovery...one of the magnets was housed in the Swan Hatch....but it's incredible power had to be tamed by reversing it's polarity every 108 minnutes....hence the button pushing duties you took to so readily.

JACK: What? Sorry....I drifted off. Why am I here?

BEN: Well....just like many of your friends from Flight 815...you pissed off some pretty important people....and you were sent here to see the error of your ways....and perhaps coexist with us here in our peaceful, shiny, happy place....where you can join our book club....and participate in our public executions/brandings of Collective members who act up and kill someone.

JACK: Collective, huh?

BEN: Yes.

JACK: Mind if we keep calling you idiots "The Others"?

BEN: Not at all...Can we keep calling you guys "Losties"?

JACK: Whatever.


Until that conversation happens...it's gonna be "The Others".
:rotflmao2: :biglaugh: :rotflmao: :Jumpy: :74happy:

I suggest the Losties be renamed the Survivors, and the Others be renamed the Ruthless Gits.

X :biggrin:


If Git is not an acceptable word... we could call them the BORING ONES WHO
BRING THE SHOW TO A CRAWL.

:frown:

JACK: Ok...I've had it with your stupid games...I have a gun to your head...you don't have any of my friends held captive as leverage...No one is gonna come in and save you...now....if you don't want your brains all over your precious Hydra station walls...answer the following question!! Who are you people?

BEN: I can't tell...(Jack cocks the gun)...ok...we are called "The Dharma Collective"...Remnants of the people who were conducting scientific experiments on this island back in the 70's. Many of us born right here on the island....until recently....when we discovered the huge magnetic properties inherent on this island have rendered us sterile...and unable to conceive children...that is why we have kidnapped your children...we are trying to protect them from the same fate with the fertility drugs that Juliette developed...so that we can continue to repopulate the Collective....and live out our peaceful, happy and enlightened lives here on this Utopia of an island.

JACK: Magnetitic properties? What are you talkin about?

BEN: Alvar Hanso discovered this island quite by accident...back in the early 60's. He was searching for his great, great grandfather's lost ship...The Black Rock.

JACK: Seen it. Nice boat.

BEN: Yes....yes it is. Anyways...He traced Magnus's last known voyage here...but Alvar found much more than his ancestor's ship. He found this island. And also discovered it was so overwhelmingly magnetically charged...that it all but invisible to the naked eye...or even to radar and sonar. The magnetic properties have a way of bending light for miles around this island...you do not find this island....this island finds you. Thus making it prime real estate to create a truly utopian society...void of your old society's problems. Here we are free to expand our minds....conducting scientific research for the betterment of all mankind.

JACK: Back to the magnetic properties...Where did these magnets come from?

BEN: Space. Look...you're a great spinal surgeon...but leave the science to me...Huge magnetically charged meteorites impacted on this island eons ago....they were retrieved by Hanso's team....and their power was harrnessed by his team of scientific researchers...The Dharma Initiative...The magnets unique properties were used in all facets of scientific discovery...one of the magnets was housed in the Swan Hatch....but it's incredible power had to be tamed by reversing it's polarity every 108 minnutes....hence the button pushing duties you took to so readily.

JACK: What? Sorry....I drifted off. Why am I here?

BEN: Well....just like many of your friends from Flight 815...you pissed off some pretty important people....and you were sent here to see the error of your ways....and perhaps coexist with us here in our peaceful, shiny, happy place....where you can join our book club....and participate in our public executions/brandings of Collective members who act up and kill someone.

JACK: Collective, huh?

BEN: Yes.

JACK: Mind if we keep calling you idiots "The Others"?

BEN: Not at all...Can we keep calling you guys "Losties"?

JACK: Whatever.


Until that conversation happens...it's gonna be "The Others".

yo, this is good story telling. very direct and to the point. just my style.
anyway, even though its fan-fiction, the part i made bold/bigger/underlined makes me wonder what the magnetic energy is doing now, since its regulator has been destroyed. do you think there will be more frequent discharges of purple sky making, magnetic power?

makes me wonder what the magnetic energy is doing now, since its regulator has been destroyed. do you think there will be more frequent discharges of purple sky making, magnetic power?

Wasn't there a podcast a little while ago when Darlton said something about the Losties not realisng the catastrophic consequences of not pushing the button? I can't remember exactly what was said .... except the word "catastrophic". An interesting choice of word, don't you think? :rolleyes:

i do remember that.

i was in a thread right after the ep. "flashes..", and in it we were debating the issues related to the aftermath of the hatch implosion (i.e. destruction of the mag.pulse regulator).

so, if the result of NOT pushing the button every 108 min. to reverse the magnets polarity is the discharge of magnetic force large enough to (a) turn the sky purple, (b) bring down an Oceanic Airlines passenger plane, and (c) maybe rip a hole in time/space causing one (Desmond) or more objects to travel in time, then why has the mag. pulse not gone off every 108 min. since?

otherwise, the turning of the key/destruction of the hatch has somehow disperssed the mag. power somewhere or everwhere else.

Dang, I like that theory! Except the Others are leftover subjects of the Dharma Initiative, not employees.