Okay, I can totally understand Sawyer's reasoning for hitting the closest shore and making camp rather than Kate's half-brained idea to try and go around the island and find their beach at night. BUUUUUUUTTTT, why not sail until dusk, then dock at the nearest beach and make camp and in the morning, get back in the boat and sail home?

Remember Sayid saying he could reach the Others' camp far more quickly by sea than by land? Very true. Remember the scary jungle of polar bears, French lady traps and smoke monsters where Kate and Sawyer were captured in the first place? Why on earth would you choose to ditch a valuable boat and walk all the way across the island to get back to camp when you can sail back easily and safely in the morning, and at the end of it, have a nice boat to keep for your trouble? Now they've lost the boat and I can't imagine this is the faster or safer way to camp. I don't get that.

Of course, the plot demanded that they lose the boat, but that's just not enough for me for such a wrongheaded plan. If they think Jack is on the island still, all the more reason why they might need the boat to go back for him. Now they have nothing. How was Kate planning on going back for Jack?

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Yeah, I thought about this too. Pretty weak writing, if you ask me.

Yeah I agree. I thought it pretty stupid to ditch the boat and look for camp by foot

I felt this episdoe was pretty weak writing all around. "OH MY GOD THEY GAVE HER A SMALL BRAND ON HER LOWER BACK! THE VILLIANS!"

I'm really getting tired with the tease aspects of this show. I think when this thing is said and done in two more seasons we're going to look back at seasons three as a bunch of dragged out filler eps.

Actually they still have Des' boat, which is far superior to an outrigger built by a teenage girl.
Nah, the Others stole that, remember?

I didn't understand that either. I mean they don't really know where they are yet - and prefer walking around the island instead of taking the boat?!?

I've actually enjoyed this season so far. This episode was just weak. I also think the show is becoming schizophrenic with the these 3 characters this week, these 4 the next, etc. Jin hasn't been seen since episode 2!

But back to topic, I really need a good explanation as to why walking across the island (and abandoning the boat) is preferable to sailing around it.

Just a guess, but maybe (hopefully) K&S will "discover" something new & exciting on their trek back to camp.

Just a guess, but maybe (hopefully) K&S will "discover" something new & exciting on their trek back to camp.


But still, weak writring. That wouldn't in any way at all explain WHY they walked back through the jungle rather than taking the quick trip round the island.

And one more thing about walking around the island: As Sawyer said, they have no map. It seems like it'd be SOOO much easier to circumnavigate the island and find the camp on the beach than to bushwhack in the blind hope they know what part of the island they are on.

Just seems senseless. If there is a reason they abandoned the boat, the writers should have put that into the story last night instead of holding off on it.

Just seems senseless. If there is a reason they abandoned the boat, the writers should have put that into the story last night instead of holding off on it.

It would have been easy, and they could have killed two birds with one stone. While they are asleep, instead of Karl going off to cry in the woods, he goes to the boat and steals it. When they wake, Karl and the boat are both gone. They have no choice but to hoof it. They lose their opportunity to get answers and Karl's motives remain a mystery. That sews up every plot hole nicely. Instead, they let Karl leave and they abandon the boat. WTF??

It takes an experienced sailor to sail for a long distance. Remember, Sayid needed Sun and Jin to sail to the Others camp. Carl said there wouldn't be a moon so it would have been really dark like Sawyer said. Ditching the boat didn't make much sense though.

It takes an experienced sailor to sail for a long distance. Remember, Sayid needed Sun and Jin to sail to the Others camp. Carl said there wouldn't be a moon so it would have been really dark like Sawyer said. Ditching the boat didn't make much sense though.

I already acknowledged they shouldn't have sailed at night. I suggested that they should have camped at the beach and sailed on in the morning.

And it took an experienced sailor to sail Desmond's sophisticated sailboat, not to row a canoe around a shoreline.

Did they ditch the boat? Wasn't it just on the beach?

I agree taking the boat makes more sense, they could simply follow the shoreline. Even with Sawyer's concerns for food, they could've stocked up and then jumped back on the boat.

I thought they'd want to keep Karl around for more info about the Others. I understand Sawyer's sympathy for Karl, but to let him go didn't make sense.

Well, we saw what happened when they tried to escape before on a make-shift boat. Maybe the thought of having a boat around doesn't seem as important as once before. Heck, Desmond, an experienced sailor, coun't even get away onn his bad*** boat.

Well, we saw what happened when they tried to escape before on a make-shift boat. Maybe the thought of having a boat around doesn't seem as important as once before. Heck, Desmond, an experienced sailor, coun't even get away onn his bad*** boat.

I'm not talking about using the boat for rescue off the island. I'm talking about having a boat for safe travel around the island and for locating the Others and maybe rescuing Jack.

Nah, the Others stole that, remember?

Well, Kate and Sawyer don't necessarily know that...but I agree with the main point. I didn't pick that up from the episode, but yeah, it makes no sense not to at least use the boat for safe travel back to camp. It might also come in handy for fishing and stuff.

I agree the boat thing was weak writing. If for the story, they need to put Kate and Sawyer on foot back to camp, then make the boat spring a leak or something that makes it useless. I mean, it was built by a kid supposedly, so it wouldn't be far-fetched to think that it could start to fall apart.

The only other reason I can think of for why they would ditch the boat is that they fear the Others will come after them in the water--making them sitting ducks. K&S have no weapons and I doubt they'll outrow a motor boat. While the jungle itself poses its own threats, at the very least, should the Others come after them in the jungle, it would be 1) harder to find K&S, 2) if they did find K&S, they could at least use the jungle as cover and wouldn't be nearly as exposed as they would be sitting in a canoe in the water.

The only other reason I can think of for why they would ditch the boat is that they fear the Others will come after them in the water--making them sitting ducks. K&S have no weapons and I doubt they'll outrow a motor boat. While the jungle itself poses its own threats, at the very least, should the Others come after them in the jungle, it would be 1) harder to find K&S, 2) if they did find K&S, they could at least use the jungle as cover and wouldn't be nearly as exposed as they would be sitting in a canoe in the water.

Now that's a fair explanation. If Sawyer would have given that as a reason for ditching the boat, I would have been happy.