I look for some anagrams for JACOB and I don't find anything (not in english). But in French I found that "Ça Job" that means (well my girfriend translate to me) "that fool"....And I have one theory.....Can Rousseau be Jacob?¿¿

with all the Judeo/Christian concepts they are using now (instead of Buddhist) , Rousseau would be John the Baptist instead. She's rroaming the desert as a precursor of what I am afraid to even say it. I hope not though, dont forget Jack's father was named Christian Shepherd.

Sorry, but as far as I know 'ça job' doesn't mean anything in French , 'ça' is 'this' but 'job'.....well, it can mean 'job' as in 'work', same as in English, but that's it!

Job is an abreviature for Jobard that means silly, fool, etc...in french (maybe is an old-fashioned way to say it....) .... I think that Rousseau is Jacob, because that's will be elegant way to re-introduce Rousseau's character....

"That fool" should be translated as "Ce job". "Ca job" means absolutely nothing, but that wouldn't be the first time bad French was used on a foreign show.

If the word 'job' as short for 'jobard' exists in French (I haven't heard it in the 10 years living in Paris, it certainly isn't a word often used in the French language nowadays, but let's just assume that was some time ago), 'that fool' would be 'ce job' and not 'ça', as Tangerine Soda has already said. To use for a female person, 'ce' (that) would have to be be 'cette' and not 'ça' btw.
So I guess that there is either nothing to it, or bad French :)
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...but following Joanarcaic's idea about a possible French/Rousseau connection, I can think of a word in French that's close to an anagramm of Jacob=> Cobaj (actual spelling would be cobaye) and means 'prey' or , more often, 'test subject' (for clinical research for example) ;)

If the word 'job' as short for 'jobard' exists in French (I haven't heard it in the 10 years living in Paris, it certainly isn't a word often used in the French language nowadays, but let's just assume that was some time ago), 'that fool' would be 'ce job' and not 'ça', as Tangerine Soda has already said. To use for a female person, 'ce' (that) would have to be be 'cette' and not 'ça' btw.
So I guess that there is either nothing to it, or bad French :)
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...but following Joanarcaic's idea about a possible French/Rousseau connection, I can think of a word in French that's close to an anagramm of Jacob=> Cobaj (actual spelling would be cobaye) and means 'prey' or , more often, 'test subject' (for clinical research for example) ;)

CA Job clearly means "chartered accountant job". Jacob is obviously the Others' accountant. It makes perfect sense... didn't we hear about 'Jacob's list'. Accountants are always making lists. And it fits with the kidnapping children too... they're trying to get more dependents for tax-deduction purposes. The DHARMA initiative is nothing more than an elaborate tax shelter.

I don't think there is an anagram intended by the producers in regard to the name "Jacob". But if "CA JOB" did mean anything, I'll go with the the first thing to hit my mind when I saw that phrase, which is the "CA" being an abbreviation for California. So think of "CA job" as "California job", like in the way Sawyer says "Tampa job".

I think it's simply an example of the whole anagram thing being taken too far.
Jacob is merely, well, Jacob. It's a biblical reference, as discussed in great length here on the board. If you do a search, you'll find the threads.

I agree with island hottie. I think this is a clear example of going too far in looking into everything.

I think 'Jacob' should be taken as it is at face value, as a biblical reference. I have seen it referred to that many times, on other sites as well.

Wow, I think that suggesting Rousseau being Jacob or "HIM" is a GREAT theory!

In fact, I think I like that as much as the "Jack is Gay" theory!!

Jack's not gay????? :eek: :biggrin:

well, well, well, every Lost's fan have her own paranoic theory (yep and mine is very, very, very hard to belive.....maybe I'm wrong (always I'm wrong....)....but insist that will be an elegant way to re-introduce Rousseau's character.....

...and finally Jacob will be Nikki or Paolo...or maybe Charlie (yep, in her Anakin's style....)

dont forget Jack's father was named Christian Shepherd.
I dunno where I got it from, but I remember once upon a time I was informed that Jack's full name is John Christian Shephard... - JC... that's 'worse' than just Christian.

oh and with all due respect... could people please start spelling that last name right?? I feel sorry for everyone out there who's last name is Shephard and have to constantly spell their name...!!!

OK - back to the point.

The brainwash-thing nor Carl said anything about anyone being Jacob -
they said
"God loves you LIKE he loves Jacob."

Meaning; God loves you like he loved that lying little conman - and that He loved him is evident in all He gave him eventually.

1) Jacob's crime - conning his family;
2) punishment - having to flee in fear, being conned in turn;
3) redemption and many gifts (I hesitate to say 'reward') -
he got to be with the woman he loved, riches (in the form of cattle etc), 12 sons (and 3(?) daughters); was welcomed home by the brother he feared'd kill him, one of the three big names in the list of Abram, Isac, and Jacob, was renamed Israel by God, lived to see one of his sons become king, was the father of a nation, and the forefather of Jesus Christ...

"God loves you like He loves Jacob" basically means, "He loves you a lot."

I've been enjoying the spiritual side of the show, so I was thrilled to see that.
And Carl repeating it to Sawyer... loved it... guy should know Someone loves him...
(is this show a well covered-up evangelizing project, or something? I mean, think about it - one of the main cast people is called Evangeline...)

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If you insist someone must be Jacob;
Any and all LOSTies may be Jacob(s).
Could be Kate; she's commited crimes + if you wanna go deep: she was told there'd be 2 weeks of nastiness; that is 14 days. Didn't Jacob work for Laban for 14 years before he could marry the woman he loved?
Could be Sawyer - he sure is a conman.
Could be Jin, could be Sayid, could be Claire, Locke, Charlie, Sun, Desmond.
If they'd been around it could've been Ana Lucia, Michael, Eko, Shannon...
Everyone has committed 'crimes' of sorts. "All of us are lost," right?!

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BTW;
Jacob's youngest son was Benjamin ;).

Or there could be no biblical reference at all. Jacob could be simply - the man in charge.

Or there could be no biblical reference at all. Jacob could be simply - the man in charge.
What sense does that make, though?

"God loves you like He loves the man in charge here."

Put "God" and "Jacob" in one sentence and you can't tell me it ain't biblical; insert "love" and it's the jackpot.
Heck, the little sentence is half the Evangelie.
*sorry - I have no clue as to the English spelling of that word.*

What sense does that make, though?

"God loves you like He loves the man in charge here."

Put "God" and "Jacob" in one sentence and you can't tell me it ain't biblical; insert "love" and it's the jackpot.
Heck, the little sentence is half the Evangelie.
*sorry - I have no clue as to the English spelling of that word.*

Thats exactly my point, who says this has to make sense?

Jacob could be seen by the others as a great man/leader etc - that's all.

I admit, the name Jacob could have some meaning to something - but why biblical? why religious?

Maybe the guys name is simply Jacob.

Thats exactly my point, who says this has to make sense?
the name Jacob could have some meaning to somethingyah. cuz the Others do so many random and meaningless things, all the time. and it wouldn't be the first time something with no meaning to anything is included in a brainwash video...

Maybe the guys name is simply Jacob.What guy? "God loves you like He loves some random guy."
True - but see above.
What value do we get knowing God loves us like some other guy of whom we may never have heard?
It's valuable when we may know God loves us like He loves Jacob, that guy He loves so much.

[repeats self due to lack of understanding of other person]
Put "God" and "Jacob" in one sentence and you can't tell me it ain't biblical; insert "love" and it's the jackpot.
I'm thinking it might actually be in the Bible itself? New Testament? Anyone? I don't know those books by heart...

Because everyone grown up on the Western world with the leat bit of biblical knowledge immediately recognizes the connection. Including Others making brainwash tapes. -- Including show writers who've included priests, Catholics, baptizing, faith, and church-building into their show. Be there someone named Jacob on that island, or not. The show's filled with biblical references, so why is it all of a sudden so hard to believe this is one?

What sense does that make, though?

"God loves you like He loves the man in charge here." Actually, I think it does make sense. Given the context of some random, cult-like people living in a secluded manner, I think it could be possible. Considering cults and the importance of their leaders, "God loves you as he loved [insert leader name]" doesn't seem outrageous.

Doesn't mean there is no allusion to the biblical Jacob, but also doesn't mean the bible will clearly lead us to know who Jacob is. My :twocents:

Jacob's youngest son was Benjamin ;)...............:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
Comorrrrr!!!!!!

mmmm......that's only bible reference or lost spoiler?¿.........

Jacob's youngest son was Benjamin ;)...............:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:
Comorrrrr!!!!!!

mmmm......that's only bible reference or lost spoiler?¿.........
I can't spoil anyone since I don't know anything. Worst thing I can do is guess right. ;).

We may not know exactly "who" Jacob is, but I think we can guess "what" he is.

I believe he is the founder/boss of our little band of Others. He seems to be a leader that has more power/influence than Ben.

The biblical reference that Ben was the son of Jacob probably does have some merit/meaning. TPTB have stated that the names of the characters were specifically selected and have meanings. We may not know what they are at this point, but that does not mean that there is not something there.

I think this is yet another classic example of Lost fans taking the anagram thing a bit far. Anagrams have shown up in a couple of spots. This does not mean that every word the writers put out has some sort of secret meaning, people!

Thankfully the thread isn't about the anagram anymore. Now it's just about some vague, nebulous character we'll have introduced to us in a year or two, maybe.