I know this is really nit-picky compared to all the mysteries of the island, but did it seem strange to anyone that Jack was able to place Cindy? After 3 months of trauma and desperation? I kind of suspended disbelief when he remembered Desmond (not everyone calls you brotha, after all), but I just can't imagine that he'd remember that Cindy was his flight attendant (even if she did give him extra booze ;) )

I just asked this on another thread.

If Cindy was with the Tailies, and went missing *before* getting to the Losties, how did she know Jack??? (Well, I mean, other than him being a captive and operating on Ben...) And WHY would she think he know who SHE is??? They never met!

I know this is really nit-picky compared to all the mysteries of the island, but did it seem strange to anyone that Jack was able to place Cindy? After 3 months of trauma and desperation? I kind of suspended disbelief when he remembered Desmond (not everyone calls you brotha, after all), but I just can't imagine that he'd remember that Cindy was his flight attendant (even if she did give him extra booze ;) )

You just answered your own question straight away....After 3 months of trauma and desperation.

I just asked this on another thread.

If Cindy was with the Tailies, and went missing *before* getting to the Losties, how did she know Jack??? (Well, I mean, other than him being a captive and operating on Ben...) And WHY would she think he know who SHE is??? They never met!

They did meet. They met on the flight. But up until that moment, neither one had any idea the other survived. And even though they did meet, Jack still wouldn't have remembered her, or vice-versa.

Do you remember what your flight attendant looked like on your last flight? I sure don't. I've been on a flight in the last three months, too.

If Cindy was with the Tailies, and went missing *before* getting to the Losties, how did she know Jack???
I was asumming there was talk we didn't see. Something TPTB don't shpw us. When the tallies met the fussies, they told Jack who all survived and what happened to them. That is how I saw it.

Do you remember what your flight attendant looked like on your last flight? I sure don't. I've been on a flight in the last three months, too.

I was on a flight 6 weeks ago and don't remember my flight attendants. (I could, though, give you a vivid description of the dry, stale pretzels!)

They did meet. They met on the flight. But up until that moment, neither one had any idea the other survived. And even though they did meet, Jack still wouldn't have remembered her, or vice-versa.

Do you remember what your flight attendant looked like on your last flight? I sure don't. I've been on a flight in the last three months, too.
Cindy and Jack had a conversation on the flight and she gave him an extra bottle of liquor to be nice.
The Australian accent would jog his memory to make the link to Oceanic staff even if he hadn't recognized her in the first place. And she knew who he was (certainly by word of mouth even if she didn't recognize him right off from the flight.) All those little aids can combine to pull up the memory in the brain.
I actually do remember a nondescript flight attendant I had a conversation with even a couple years ago.

They did meet. They met on the flight. But up until that moment, neither one had any idea the other survived. And even though they did meet, Jack still wouldn't have remembered her, or vice-versa.

Do you remember what your flight attendant looked like on your last flight? I sure don't. I've been on a flight in the last three months, too.

That's exactly what I mean. Nothing against flight attendants, they're always really nice, but I don't think if I saw one at Target I would say, "You! You were my flight attendant when I went to Florida last November! How're you doing?"

They have let us known that Jack has a good memory. This is just another example.

Desmond told Jack the numbers to input into the computer, he said them once, started to repeat them, Jack cut him off and said he got it.

They watched the Orientation video, Jack didn't need (or want) to watch it a second time.

Locke changed the combo to the armory, Jack demands in. Locke tells him the combo, asks him if he needs him to write it down, Jack says no.

He remembers Desmond, he remembers Cindy.

The title to this thread is appropriate. Jack does have great memory.

I was asumming there was talk we didn't see. Something TPTB don't shpw us. When the tallies met the fussies, they told Jack who all survived and what happened to them. That is how I saw it.

That's also what I had figured.

Jack is a doctor, and doctor's usually are high up the intelligence/memory scale. Just because you don't remember your flight attendants, that doesn't mean others won't.

They have let us known that Jack has a good memory. This is just another example.

Yeah, actually I have seen speculation on other sites that jackn might have a photographic memory.

The one incident that really sticks in my mind is when Locke told Jack the combination to the armoury. He said it quickly, I had to rewind the scene a few times before I could get the numbers let alone remember them. And I think Locke assumed Jack would need it written down.

Of course it could just be because the writers can't be bothered to waste time with, 'Huh, nope I don't remember you' dialogue from Jack to Cindy. :rolleyes:

Cindy and Jack had a conversation on the flight and she gave him an extra bottle of liquor to be nice.
The Australian accent would jog his memory to make the link to Oceanic staff even if he hadn't recognized her in the first place. And she knew who he was (certainly by word of mouth even if she didn't recognize him right off from the flight.) All those little aids can combine to pull up the memory in the brain.
I actually do remember a nondescript flight attendant I had a conversation with even a couple years ago.

I worked at a gas station while going through college. I had regulars and semi-regulars and not-regulars. I carried on conversations with all of them, to varying degrees. I was nice to my customers, and even helped a few out now and then. Very busy station, I probably saw as many people in a shift as Cindy did in a typical day of flight attending. Unless the person was a regular, and a long-time regular at that, I couldn't have picked them out 3 months later. Not even if someone had come up to me and said, "Hey, that person right there, his name is Jack and he came into your store and you were extra nice to him. You even talked to him for a while." I most likely wouldn't have remembered.

You remember ONE flight attendant, do you remember the other attendants from that same flight? Most likely not. :)

The only thing I can point out here, is that you are comparing everyday, normal experiences to something totally tragic and memorable.

I mean, think of it this way. You have a normal day, go on with your life with nothing signifigant happening and you aren't going to remember the nitty gritty details about it.

BUT. If you are involved in a pretty scary tragic plane crash, I think a few people would stand out, like a stewardess from the flight, people who sat next to you, etc.

Take this for example: I couldn't tell you who the teller was who cashed my check yesterday, but I would be able to point out all of the nurses who helped me deliver my son about a year ago! (and I had never met them before either) It's one of those things you tend to hold onto when something like that happens :p

....it's just like when a memory stands out in your mind, you tend to associate weird things with it, like certain smells, songs, even colours. Remembering someone's face as well isn't so weird.

It's true.

And Jack didn't recognize her right away. She said hi and he was like "Do I know you?" and then it came back to him.

I think that was the one part of the episode that was handled well. Not so much for the rest of that conversation..

I was thinking that Cindy and the rest of her 'Watchers' have a pretty solid idea of who the people they are Watching are...

She knew him more than just a passenger, she approached him in that way that people do who know you but think that maybe you don't know them.


Also, Jack has only SEEN or MET a handful of NEW people in the last 3 months.

So any memory he has of her while being foggy, hasn't been tainted with the general interaction he would have in the real world.

I work in a company of about 5000 people and see a random selection of them on campus every day. Only a few every single day.

But when I am out in public I can glance at people and point out to my girlfriend a person who works at my company.

I just say like "Hey I saw him on the elevator last month."

Consider the interchange as follows:

The kids have NEVER met Jack, ever. They landed on the other side of the island and were taken well before the tailies made it away from the beach.

Aside from the plane Cindy also NEVER saw Jack on the island. She was taken before the two groups of survivors met.

SO it is pretty evident that the 'Watchers' have to have been monitoring the Losties to know that Ana Lucia and Jack ever met.

Are they with the OTHERS? I dont know.

Are they Loopy? Seems like they were kind of drunken acting or high... the kids were the only ones who looked serious.

Ok I rambled... tell me I am ANTI-Sane...

IREE!

The way I saw it, Jack and Cindy definitely flirted on the plane during their exchange. If Jack was attracted to her, there's a better chance that he would remember her. When Cindy walks away after giving Jack the second liquor bottle, he "checks her out" as she walks away. It's not that hard to believe he'd remember her.

And also, she was one of the flight attendants who was chasing Charlie -- which was something that caught Jack's attention as well. I dunno, just these little things I think would make her stand out in Jack's mind.

I'm about 99% positive that Ana Lucia told Jack about Cindy being kidnapped by the Others (and who Cindy was, I think she mentioned that she was the flight attendant?) when Ana Lucia is explaining why/how it happened that she shot Shannon.

Bottom line, it's not weird that Jack would remember. There are weirder things that happen on this island! :p

Well, like I said in the op, it's a nit-picky thing compared to the smoke monster but I just find it odd that he remembers so many minute things. Then again, I'm bad with faces. I'm kind of spacy that way I guess and I'm certainly not doctor caliber!

That's exactly what I mean. Nothing against flight attendants, they're always really nice, but I don't think if I saw one at Target I would say, "You! You were my flight attendant when I went to Florida last November! How're you doing?"

I once traveled on a flight with I think United Airlines Service Crew of the Year for 1997 and they acted out skits and were really funny. One of the stewards was really campy and flamboyant and there were two female stewardesses, one African-American with big Farrah hair and one blonde cheerleader type and they were, literally, the service crew of the year doing some kind of parody of Love Boat. But then again, my wife an I occasionally say, "do you remember that crazy flight crew we had?"

Don

Yeah, actually I have seen speculation on other sites that jackn might have a photographic memory.

The one incident that really sticks in my mind is when Locke told Jack the combination to the armoury. He said it quickly, I had to rewind the scene a few times before I could get the numbers let alone remember them. And I think Locke assumed Jack would need it written down.

Of course it could just be because the writers can't be bothered to waste time with, 'Huh, nope I don't remember you' dialogue from Jack to Cindy. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I think that's the most likely explanation.

As for Jack's memory and being good with numbers... You're right, I couldn't remember all of them at that point, but then again I'm not a surgeon and I bet Jack has a lot more experience with subjects I did my best to avoid in school. :biggrin:

The kids have NEVER met Jack, ever. They landed on the other side of the island and were taken well before the tailies made it away from the beach.

Aside from the plane Cindy also NEVER saw Jack on the island. She was taken before the two groups of survivors met.

SO it is pretty evident that the 'Watchers' have to have been monitoring the Losties to know that Ana Lucia and Jack ever met.

Are they with the OTHERS? I dont know!

I think Jack assumed they were with the Others and since Ben is the one responsible for Ana and Libby's assassination, he's more than justified to tell Cindy to shove it. At least that's how I interpreted it and frankly, I don't think I would have reacted differently.

If they have been converted, I wonder how much info the Others share to lowlier members of the cult such as Cindy. I can't imagine Ben having a chat with Cindy and telling her all about his plan to kidnap himself a spinal surgeon. I think Cindy was expecting Ana to be with Jack's group because when she was taken Ana and co. were headed to the Losties' beach.

The only thing I can point out here, is that you are comparing everyday, normal experiences to something totally tragic and memorable.

I mean, think of it this way. You have a normal day, go on with your life with nothing signifigant happening and you aren't going to remember the nitty gritty details about it.

BUT. If you are involved in a pretty scary tragic plane crash, I think a few people would stand out, like a stewardess from the flight, people who sat next to you, etc.

Good point.

You all are forgetting when Sawyer came back he said that they took Cindy when they were on there way back, Sawyer, or Mike could have mentioned her to him or even Bernard, Anna, Libby and Ecko. They probably would have said something to him about that, Look how Jack reacted to how Ecko said Anna when/after Shannon was shot and she had Sayid tied up

Probably all been said before, but

1) They flirted - or something that looked like it - on the plane.
2) He didn't recognize her straight away - took a second.
3) It's not like he's met 1.000s of other people in the mean time.
4) He's a doctor. I sure hope my doctor remembers his stuffs.
5) Maybe he's one of the blessed with good (photographic) memories.

I didn't find it surprizing or weird or anything.