It is high time that they "talked"

TPTB have finally listened to us and got them talking!!!!

Now we'll get to find out just how much Danielle really knows.

Honestly, I don't think this has anything to do with TPTB listening to us, because a) this episodes was written months ago, and b) if they put Alex in the story somewhere, they obviously had designs all along for her to meet back up with Danielle (at some point).

That being said, I have been awaiting the beginning of their reunion since Maternity Leave, and I am thrilled it is happening! It's going to be an interesting trek.

I can't wail to see what kind of hell Danielle raises, This is gonna be good!

Jenny we have been saying that for 2 years though...Not just about danielle and alex...about many different issues..I know we got into a big discussion last week but this is an old discussion.;...so I do believe they heard us loud and clear about the dialogue

anyways....

It will be awesome to see Danielle and Kate pair up to go and knock on the doors of out Others....

Somehow, Danielle looked.. erm, younger.

On second thought, it might just be because I'm used to seeing her on the DVD's where the picture is squished up so everyone looks skinnier.

I just can't image... We learn that Alex was Danielle's daughter in Exodus - and then right away in season 2 she is reunited with her? Claire did tell her about Alex in Maternity Leave, but Danielle didn't know where to look. Finding Alex without other information about the Others would have been so out of context.

Anyway, for me, the anticipation has definitely been a part of the sweetness of this plot coming due. They set up questions far, far in advance of the answers, and then spin those answers in a way you'll never see coming. I guess others would have wanted it to happen sooner, but not me! :shrug:

this really is a huge turning point. im excited about it.
it was a good episode
hell, it had cheech in it!!!!!

It will be awesome to see Danielle and Kate pair up to go and knock on the doors of out Others....

It'll be awesome to see the women making things happen. This is going to be something to watch.

Danielle's face when Kate told her "Her name is Alex" was poignant. Can you imagine what she felt at that moment after 16 years??

I know!!!

But, I have the feeling Alex won't welcome her with open arms. Even if she hates having Ben as a father, having a seemingly crazy woman for a mother might not seem so appealing.

I think that TPTB have preached patience to everyone and that they have promised answers are coming, that the true lost fans are patient and able to wait because we understand that story will be resolved. I am pleased with the direction the third season is heading and I can't wait for next week.

I don't think TPTB laid out the Danielle/Alex story just because we have talked about it. They had to know at some point they would have to deal with it. I think they had to let us see a little bit of the Others and how they lived before they had Danielle find out. Either way, I can't wait to find out what Danielle is going to do now.

Didn't Claire already tell her at the end of Maternity Leave that her daughter was with the others?

I think it's safe to assume Alex doesn't even know she has a mother on the island, so I'd be surprised if anyone thought she would rush into Danielle's arms right off. And while Danielle has done some "crazy" things she's not out of her mind. After all, she's managed to stay alive on the island for 16 years, she's as good a tracker as Locke and can shoot as well as Sayid. Her craziness comes from grief and isolation. Once she's reunited with her daughter her joy may bring the healing that she deserves. Or at least that's my polyanna view. :)

It's about friggin time.

But I thought it was a stupid way to end the episode. They built up to some sort of climax at the end and all we get is something we already know? I thought Danielle could have reacted better....the whole Danielle/Alex thing is a little too drawn out and boring at this point for me. I expected a more exciting ending.

It's about friggin time. .

Truer words have never been typed. From the moment Sayid met Danielle I have been wondering why she hasn't been a super resourse for the losties. When Eko came aboad I had assumed that he would be the official "Other f**ker" and would lay down some holy laws and bust some heads.

After this episode, I am seriously hoping that Danielle picks up the reigns and starts to regulate on them. As long as Ben doesn't get hurt, mind. Unfortunatly, I can easily see a future where Danielle gets bumped as soon as she convinces her daughter that she is her mother with an inaudible whisper to the ear which will insight another mystery,

Anyhow, I'm SUPER SUPER glad that someone finally decided to include Danielle in their plans. This was one of those "DUHHH" things for me for quite some time. I just hope it goes somewhere.

:danielle: I'm so glad she is back - and it is about time - didn't she see the purple light too and is curious?

Didn't Claire already tell her at the end of Maternity Leave that her daughter was with the others?


she told her I believe that there was a young girl there. I don't recall Alex telling Claire her name in Maternity Leave. I think Danielle obviously knows that Alex was taken by the others. Now I think we are going to see her do something about it, that's what I'm hoping anyway. I hope she and Kate get together and storm after the others!! Girl Power!! Oh Locke and Sayid can come along too!!! I think Alex is a rebel and isn't one of the others. That doesn't mean that she will except this woman she doesn't know as her mother, if they ever did find her in the others camp or whatever. Who knows if she'll even believe Danielle. i can't wait to see everything unfold.

I think that TPTB have preached patience to everyone and that they have promised answers are coming, that the true lost fans are patient and able to wait because we understand that story will be resolved. I am pleased with the direction the third season is heading and I can't wait for next week.

I am a true lost fan...I have no patience...lol..I guess I need to work on that within the confines of my life ...

I don't think TPTB laid out the Danielle/Alex story just because we have talked about it. They had to know at some point they would have to deal with it. I think they had to let us see a little bit of the Others and how they lived before they had Danielle find out. Either way, I can't wait to find out what Danielle is going to do now.


I meant they are listening to us in general statement.....Not specific to this story line. We have talked for many years about the survivors not talking....here was the First real time that we actually heard good conversation between the different groups that will put things together...

Didn't Claire already tell her at the end of Maternity Leave that her daughter was with the others?

I think I may remember something like that...will have to break out the dvd...

Yes, Claire already told her. But, she knew the color of the girl's eyes, but not her name. So, it could have been a different teenager.

Alex did help Claire, but for all Danielle knows it wasn't Alex. Still she knows that Alex was taken by the others. so it couldn't have been a revelation when Claire or Kate told her about Alex.

I know that I'd rather take Ben over Rousseau any day. He might be a little creepy and kind of evil, but he at least has some conversation skills (also doesn't drool)!!!

But then again I guess Alex is a little bit strange too. Maybe they would be a good match.

I'm also not so convinced that Rousseau will go with them all the way to Otherville. So far it's seemed that each of her cameos have all fit nicely within one episode; she always ends up slipping back into the jungle... Hey, you guys wanna hear something else cool??....


Apparently we're gonna get a Rousseau flashback in S4, where we'll find out what happened to her during the previous 16 years. This is gonna be sick-O!!!

I know that I'd rather take Ben over Rousseau any day. He might be a little creepy and kind of evil, but he at least has some conversation skills (also doesn't drool)!!!




Danielle drools?!!! I must have missed that. Danielle may be quiet but she's not as crazy as everyone thinks, that's my feeling anyway.

to the spoiler info...wow you would think that with pablo and nicki getting their own flashback this season that danielle would be entitled to her own...sheesh...

I'd really like to have a reunion happen this season, and then have them dealing with the family repurcussions for a while, into season 4. That would ensure more Danielle screen time! Plus, to me, it is realistic that after 16 years, it could time quite some time to smooth things out.

Plus, we know Danielle will be in at least 3 more episodes in the immediate future (11, 12, and one more - can't remember if it's 13 or 15). She's going to Othersville baby!

I absolutely love Danielle and I LOVE Mira Furlan and her facial expression last night when Kate said "...and her name was 'Alex'" was just heartstoppingly stunning. I have been on tenter hooks anticipating the moment Danielle learned that Alex is alive, and Mira played it perfectly. She is just so amazing. I was saying in another post that I love the way Mira can say so much without ever uttering a word. If there were an Emmy category for "Best Facial Expressions in a Drama", she would win hands down. In that one moment, that one beat, after Kate told her of the brave young girl who helped them escape, named "Alex", Danielle's face and eyes showed every moment of sixteen years of pain and yearning, as well as disbelief, hope, defenses, vulnerability, shock, and back to pain and yearning, then hope again. Her facial expressions and eyes are multi-faceted like a prism and shine just as brightly with the full color spectrum. She is just so powerful and scene stealing, even when she isn't featured prominently in a scene, yet in scenes like this where the focus is on her, the viewer can do nothing but bask in the power that flows out of this actor. I love her, and I love the character, and I just really can't wait for Danielle to find Alex. I have no clue how the meeting will go, but one thing is for sure: dull it will not be!

I also am very keen on the character of Alex. She is so brave, decent and good, yet she was raised by the Others...interesting.

Anyway: I can't WAIT for the moment when Danielle and Alex meet: bring on da noise, bring on da funk!

:biggrin:

Mira can say more in 15 seconds with her eyes than a lot of actors can with 10 pages of dialogue and a half dozen intense closeups.

She totally blows me away.

I dont think that alex is going to be thrilled about finally meeting her "birthmother" after all, you dont miss what you dont know...we dont know if alex had a mother figure that aided in her "goodness"We dont know about bens fathering skills...even hardened criminals can be nice daddies....and good people can be miserable fathers...so we dont know the answer to that....

once alex hears her story ..it may be interesting to see her reaction...but like many adopted children...they dont want to know their birthlineage...we only hear about the ones that do...statistically however, most are content in their adoptive lives...

I dont think that alex is going to be thrilled about finally meeting her "birthmother" after all, you dont miss what you dont know...we dont know if alex had a mother figure that aided in her "goodness"We dont know about bens fathering skills...even hardened criminals can be nice daddies....and good people can be miserable fathers...so we dont know the answer to that....

once alex hears her story ..it may be interesting to see her reaction...but like many adopted children...they dont want to know their birthlineage...we only hear about the ones that do...statistically however, most are content in their adoptive lives...

Except that Alex wasn't adopted - she was kidnapped, stolen, from a mother who wanted her very much.

And Alex has seen other stolen children. Walt, the kids from the tail section, possibly Karl, and she knows about "the others" kidnapping Claire to get Aaron, and has the belief that Clarie would have been killed had she not helped her escape.

That has to colour how she will take the news that she was stolen too.

I was so pleased when Kate told Danielle about Alex. All through the episode I had the feeling Kate was going to seek out Danielle so it was satisfying to see the ending. I can't wait for the eventual reunion - I'm sure it'll all be very complicated. I think Alex will be curious about Danielle, but potentially conflicted in her feelings. And it'll be interesting to see if Danielle has another encounter with Ben since she was the one who caught him in the first place, and shot him with the crossbow when transferring him to Sayid's care. I'm sure he'll remember her!

So, so, SO glad to see Mira/Danielle back on the show again, even if it was only for a couple of minutes. And not to be redundant, but I echo those who say that Mira can do more with a look or a couple of lines than some actors can do with pages and pages of dialogue. She is awesome.

I always have to shake my head at people who just dismiss Danielle as "crazy" and leave it at that. If she were as crazy as so many people write her off as, she'd have been dead a long time ago. As the expression goes, "crazy like a fox!" :biggrin:

And yeah - I've never seen her drool either. ;)

I hope the writers play up the "Alex has seen other children stolen and it might affect her reaction to learning Danielle is her mother" angle, because if Alex just snubs her and that's it, it's less dramatic, I think. The other way there's more conflict within Alex herself, and hopefully more interaction between her and Danielle as she tries to reconcile this strange woman as her mom. More interesting that way, IMO.

I get that...kidnapped thing...and I get that she is questioning the Others...yet we do not know if she is going to embrase Danielle as her one and only true mother yada yada yada...

We only know Danielles side of the story...and we dont know if she was wacked out than when they "kidnapped" her either...

Regardless of their reactions to each other, it should be an interesting story line, and hopefully we'll find out some good answers!

I always have to shake my head at people who just dismiss Danielle as "crazy" and leave it at that. If she were as crazy as so many people write her off as, she'd have been dead a long time ago.
Exactly. This is an extremely, extremely strong, brave, smart survivor here, not a crazy person. As Sayid said, she isn't crazy, she's lonely. I mean, sixteen years alone on an island upon which you watched as your true love died of a mysterious sickness, then everyone else in your group died of it, too, and finally some weird-a**, ruthless group of people kidnaps your infant daughter? Not exactly Sanity-Producing Central, people. Yet Danielle has survived it all and is still functioning, through all her pain and grief and loneliness, the woman goes on and she even finds time to save Claire, string up Ben, etc.

Most people would have split off into a minimum of sixteen distinct personalities by this point, one for each year she's been on the island. Instead, she is sane...just with deep sadness, loss and loneliness thrown in.

Applause to the writers for having a character share some important information with another character! :clapping: (WHY does this have to be a landmark event? :shrug: )

Didn't Claire already tell her at the end of Maternity Leave that her daughter was with the others?

Alex did help Claire, but for all Danielle knows it wasn't Alex. Still she knows that Alex was taken by the others. so it couldn't have been a revelation when Claire or Kate told her about Alex.
Yes, Claire told Danielle that a teenage girl with blue eyes helped her escape, and she wasn't like the others. I would think Danielle would have pounced on that information and gone off in earnest to look for her. I mean, how many teenage girls with blue eyes can there be on this island? I think the odds would be in her favor.

I think it's safe to assume Alex doesn't even know she has a mother on the island, so I'd be surprised if anyone thought she would rush into Danielle's arms right off. And while Danielle has done some "crazy" things she's not out of her mind. After all, she's managed to stay alive on the island for 16 years, she's as good a tracker as Locke and can shoot as well as Sayid. Her craziness comes from grief and isolation. Once she's reunited with her daughter her joy may bring the healing that she deserves. Or at least that's my polyanna view. :) I really anticipate the reunion. I don't expect Alex to warm to her right away, being the petulant type of girl that she is, but it will give her a lot to think about and may result in Alex leaving the Others. Or so I'd like to think.

Has anyone thought that maybe Ben bonked Danielle, and Alex is their lovechild? :kiss:

Has anyone thought that maybe Ben bonked Danielle, and Alex is their lovechild? :kiss:
According to Danielle, she was seven months pregnant when she crashed on the island. I guess we can assume her husband Robert (whom she dispatched after she concluded he had the "sickness") is Alex's father.

Applause to the writers for having a character share some important information with another character! :clapping: (WHY does this have to be a landmark event? :shrug: )
Yes, Claire told Danielle that a teenage girl with blue eyes helped her escape, and she wasn't like the others. I would think Danielle would have pounced on that information and gone off in earnest to look for her. I mean, how many teenage girls with blue eyes can there be on this island? I think the odds would be in her favor.

I really anticipate the reunion. I don't expect Alex to warm to her right away, being the petulant type of girl that she is, but it will give her a lot to think about and may result in Alex leaving the Others. Or so I'd like to think.

It was a landmark event!!! TPTB i would hope finally listened to us and our concerns for the last 2 years!!!
I wonder if danielle was simply just afraid....I dont know....but with nothing left to lose than she should have gone running off....

Has anyone thought that maybe Ben bonked Danielle, and Alex is their lovechild? :kiss:

Yes we had looked into that and there are lots of threads about that...Mostly I think the timing was off..Danielle was already pregnant when she got onto the island and Ben had lived on the island his whole life...

Has anyone thought that maybe Ben bonked Danielle, and Alex is their lovechild? :kiss:
Yeah. Except, how come they didn't seem to recognize each other when she captured him?

Applause to the writers for having a character share some important information with another character! :clapping: (WHY does this have to be a landmark event? :shrug: )



Imagine is she also shared that Ben was the "acting" daddy.

Once I saw Danielle onscreen i was saying to myself "If Kate doesn't tell her about Alex by the end of the episode she is the most stupidest character ever"

Glad that Danielle knows now should make for some good story telling.