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finks213
03-01-2007, 12:04 AM
I really don't like those two....Why would they be introducing new characters when the old ones barely have any lines? They both had more lines than Claire, and almost as many as Locke, Sayid, and Sun....

Clochard
03-01-2007, 12:06 AM
Guess we'll find out what the producers have in store..

xzeox
03-01-2007, 12:06 AM
I'm actually starting to get used to them. Nikki at least, Paulo I'm not to sure about. And how did they get to the camp anyways? Did John and Sayid just abandon them and left them to get to camp on their own? I guess thats the only explanation.

South Shore
03-01-2007, 12:10 AM
I HATE THEM! It was creepy how Paulo pulled on Nikki's thong (or whatever, I'm being dramatic) to keep her from even considering helping Hurley with the VW.

Amber
03-01-2007, 12:14 AM
hehe He was pulling the beltloop on her shorts, I actually thought that part was cute.. but not them, I still want them to disappear. Which they will.. I can't wait really. Any time that they take away from the characters we love I get a bit bothered :)

Lostie97210
03-01-2007, 12:15 AM
Yeah, I'm still not sold on these two. I hope they have some greater purpose...

ortiz34
03-01-2007, 12:17 AM
still no point yet, still get bothered just seeing them but nikki is pretty hot

LatinoGhost
03-01-2007, 12:18 AM
omg... If they get a flashback episode..... :mad:

xzeox
03-01-2007, 12:21 AM
omg... If they get a flashback episode..... :mad:
I think that's exactly what the characters need. We need a flashback for them so we actually have something to FEEL about them. As of now, they just kind of appeared out of nowhere and everyone is like "Ok......I don't care about these people. But the chick is hot.."
We need something that will make us relate to the characters or at the very least make them more interesting. So when they do give us background about these characters, when we watch the DVD's over again we will appreciate them much more.

hehe He was pulling the beltloop on her shorts, I actually thought that part was cute.. but not them, I still want them to disappear. Which they will.. I can't wait really. Any time that they take away from the characters we love I get a bit bothered :)
That was pretty random, when I saw that I wasn't even sure what happened. It was almost unnecessary. It would probably been more effective if we actually knew the characters.

ms_mj
03-01-2007, 12:22 AM
they are replacements- fills in. look at all of the characters that are gone; shannon, boone, michael, walt, libby, ana lucia, eko, steve...or was that scott?

and then we have new characters - ben, juliet, tom, alex, karl, paolo and nikki.
4 guys, 3 girls. even trade. (not counting scott and steve--who i miss dearly. that joke never got old:))

but i have to agree. i don't care for them.

Steve L
03-01-2007, 12:22 AM
I can only think of two reasons.

1 - They are going to be killed off.
2 - Some main actors are not going to renew their contracts for next season and they are slowly working these two into the show to let them become main characters next season.

xzeox
03-01-2007, 12:33 AM
I really don't see the need for these characters the more that I think about it. Except for this future "purpose" that I keep hearing about for them, I really don't think they are useful at all. Wow, Nikki figured out that the televisions can view other hatches. Well, thats awesome and all except for one thing - The Pearl is an OBSERVATION station. The only thing they accomplished with the two characters so far is to throw random scenes into the show that no one cares about, making Locke look less intelligent, and introducing a jerk into a show.

imaaronsmom
03-01-2007, 12:38 AM
they are replacements- fills in. look at all of the characters that are gone; shannon, boone, michael, walt, libby, ana lucia, eko, steve...or was that scott?

and then we have new characters - ben, juliet, tom, alex, karl, paolo and nikki.
4 guys, 3 girls. even trade. (not counting scott and steve--who i miss dearly. that joke never got old:))

but i have to agree. i don't care for them.

They'll be the only two left in the very last scene of Lost. Who else will there be to talk to the Lostaways in their graves?

lostgurl
03-01-2007, 12:42 AM
I didn't mind Paulo and Nikki tonight, at least we got to see everyone else so they didn't take anything away from our favorites.

Dolphinjen
03-01-2007, 12:44 AM
I think they're redshirts. They will give us a chance to see people get killed, but not have to sacrifice any favorite characters.

rjst
03-01-2007, 12:48 AM
Crazy thought -- if Desmond did go back in time and had some minor effect, maybe these characters pop up in the new reality. They are acting like they have been part of things from the start.

xzeox
03-01-2007, 12:53 AM
Crazy thought -- if Desmond did go back in time and had some minor effect, maybe these characters pop up in the new reality. They are acting like they have been part of things from the start.
Well that's just it they are supposed to be acting like that, because the writers are trying to convince us that they have been there from the start. It's just that they didn't ease them in very well. They should have showed them wondering around in the background for an episode or more before just having them start talking to the main characters like we are supposed to know them.

In my opinion, the best way to integrate them into the show now is to have an Island flashback of them. Maybe when they were on the plane? (Or this may be hard to do but even at the crash?) Just anything to make it more believable.

sickotriz
03-01-2007, 01:05 AM
Crazy thought -- if Desmond did go back in time and had some minor effect, maybe these characters pop up in the new reality. They are acting like they have been part of things from the start.

At this point it would be the only thing that could get me to truly like these characters. Have them actually be a part of the island, like Yemi, but no one knows it yet until they reveal themselves.

I could see it now...
Have Jack undergo some kind of conditioning/take some kind of medicine so he is immune to the effects of the island, and when he sees them have him say "WHO IN THE HELL ARE THEY!?"

LOST

(this would be a cliffhanger episode ender of course) :biggrin:

GettinLost
03-01-2007, 01:17 AM
I know.... Darlton said they have a "purpose"... Purpose?? Besides annoying the heck out of everyone?

Need to reveal "purpose" soon...

Save The Humans
03-01-2007, 01:20 AM
Well, SOMEONE has to look for the oat bars! :D

Snost_and_Lost
03-01-2007, 01:47 AM
amen. i just don't care! this could just be bad writing...but WHY do they even exist? i have nothing invested in them... the only reason i can think that they are even in the show is to kill them off later on (just a theory i have)

John Burger
03-01-2007, 02:46 AM
People kept asking why arent the other survivors ever getting any lines. It doesnt make sense that they are never involved or even ask questions

Well, now they introduced 2 of them to show that the other survivors DO know whats going on..they are freinds with the main characters, they do all talk together (showed again, most blatently when Kate and Sawyer came back as they were being hugged by people we never saw before)

I dont know whats so hard to understand about that. It serves a vital point to all the above questions people were asking about other survivors. Its a closer knit group than was shown on the screen in the first 2 seasons too. Paulo and Nikki were a way to show that the other survivors have been interacting with the main characters the whole time. Paulo is obviously written as crab for a reason..so just keep watching and we'll find out what the writers are up to.---and remember to breathe :)

briar910
03-01-2007, 02:49 AM
Well, SOMEONE has to look for the oat bars! :D

They're behind the powdered milk! Oh wait, I guess they are gone.

lostfan4ever
03-01-2007, 02:53 AM
They're behind the powdered milk! Oh wait, I guess they are gone.
:biggrin: That's funny. I do agree however that Paulo and Nikki add nothing to the show. I'm not all that interested in any of the background survivors anyway. The original cast doesn't get enough screen time anyway.

Baileysdad
03-01-2007, 02:59 AM
They remind me of when The Brady Bunch introduced cousin Oliver...totally awkward and ham handed entry of new characters into an established cast..

colin72
03-01-2007, 03:42 AM
I really don't like those two....Why would they be introducing new characters when the old ones barely have any lines? They both had more lines than Claire, and almost as many as Locke, Sayid, and Sun....


Yes, but Lindelof and Cuse claim we are going to feel differently about Nikki and Poop Guy eventually. You know, like they said once we learned Anna Lucia's backstory we would feel completely different about her. Hmm, bad example they failed miserably and were completely wrong on that one.

Goodfellow408
03-01-2007, 05:16 AM
I have faith in good ole Carlton and Damon for Nikki and Paulo.

In interviews, they've said


Nikki and Paulo needed to be introduced casually early in the season, so that when they have their time to shine (episode 14 of this season, just 4 short weeks away!) we will already have accepted them as being there from the start.

They know we all hate them LOL, but the writers have promised us that most of us will end up loving them after their episode.

They actually wanted to give Nikki and Paulo's story earlier, but for some reason they said they didn't get to fully execute that plan yet. Either because of timing issues with the actors or something else like that.


I've accepted them after this episode. I like Nikki's spunky and very logical attitude; sometimes when she says things i'm like Finally someone is pointing out obvious things that should be pointed out.

I'm excited about their episode now!

colin72
03-01-2007, 05:24 AM
I have faith in good ole Carlton and Damon for Nikki and Paulo.

In interviews, they've said


Nikki and Paulo needed to be introduced casually early in the season, so that when they have their time to shine (episode 14 of this season, just 4 short weeks away!) we will already have accepted them as being there from the start.

They know we all hate them LOL, but the writers have promised us that most of us will end up loving them after their episode.

They actually wanted to give Nikki and Paulo's story earlier, but for some reason they said they didn't get to fully execute that plan yet. Either because of timing issues with the actors or something else like that.





I have almost no faith in good ole Carlton and Damon. Fans will love Nikki and Poop Guy as much as they loved Ana Lucia after good ole Carlton and Damon promised we'd love her.

LatinoGhost
03-01-2007, 05:34 AM
I have almost no faith in good ole Carlton and Damon. Fans will love Nikki and Poop Guy as much as they loved Ana Lucia after good ole Carlton and Damon promised we'd love her.
Well we all know what happened to Ana Lucia, soooo heres to hoping the same fate to Nikki and Paulo :biggrin: lol...

(i actually really miss Ana Lucia :cry: )

sk8rpro
03-01-2007, 05:38 AM
I have almost no faith in good ole Carlton and Damon. Fans will love Nikki and Poop Guy as much as they loved Ana Lucia after good ole Carlton and Damon promised we'd love her.

Yes, but in the podcast they said
we'll be really sorry :). But don't worry, Paulo will die for sure. The actor spilled the beans, and claimed he'll die *I think* in his flashback episode. So much for finding more toilets :(

colin72
03-01-2007, 08:40 AM
Yes, but in the podcast they said
we'll be really sorry :). But don't worry, Paulo will die for sure. The actor spilled the beans, and claimed he'll die *I think* in his flashback episode. So much for finding more toilets :(


Yeah, fans felt really sorry for Ana Lucia after TPTB tried the whole losing a baby flashback.

The only thing that will make most fans happy is if Nikki and Poop Guy die. However, if they die, no one is really going to care about them or feel sorry for them. We've barely seen them and know nothing about them. There's no backstory or screen time that's going to change the glee many will feel if these two wastes of screen time bite the dust.

bearsgonefishin
03-01-2007, 08:49 AM
I dont understand how anyone could have such strong feelings about these two, one way or the other, they have barely appeared on the show. What gives? I guess I just cant stand all the complaining, why do people complain about every little thing but at the same time are such fanatics??? could anyone explain??

South Shore
03-01-2007, 08:52 AM
I dont understand how anyone could have such strong feelings about these two, one way or the other, they have barely appeared on the show. What gives? I guess I just cant stand all the complaining, why do people complain about every little thing but at the same time are such fanatics??? could anyone explain??

I guess when you care this deeply about a show (why was I up on the The Fuselage 'til midnight, and now I'm back at 7:00 a.m.?), it can happen. They've barely appeared on the show - true - but they aren't terribly likeable, nor worthy in my mind of the journey to the Pearl station. Who knows - you complain bitterly about anything that disrupts something you are passionate about.

lostlocke
03-01-2007, 08:55 AM
Don't see a reason yet, why they keep showing up, oh well!!

bearsgonefishin
03-01-2007, 08:56 AM
I guess when you care this deeply about a show (why was I up on the The Fuselage 'til midnight, and now I'm back at 7:00 a.m.?), it can happen. They've barely appeared on the show - true - but they aren't terribly likeable, nor worthy in my mind of the journey to the Pearl station. Who knows - you complain bitterly about anything that disrupts something you are passionate about.


I guess I can understand that, it seems like a terrible waste of energy though, IMO.

moviephone
03-01-2007, 09:01 AM
Is it just me or does everyone cringe when they see Nikki and Paulo on screen. I hope they are redeemed in their flashback.

bearsgonefishin
03-01-2007, 09:03 AM
Is it just me or does everyone cringe when they see Nikki and Paulo on screen. I hope they are redeemed in their flashback.

its not just you, but its def not everyone.

Starrox
03-01-2007, 09:07 AM
Goodfellow408 and moviephone, please make sure you read the rules regarding spoilers (again, I hope!) ASAP - all information about upcoming episodes must be spoiler fonted!

EricNinden
03-01-2007, 09:10 AM
Nikki is hot. I like her.

palomino_grl78
03-01-2007, 09:22 AM
I must admit, Paolo isn't hard on the eyes. Not at all! But if his sole purpose is eye candy (and I seriously doubt it) perhaps they could have him doing a shirtless jog on the beach. I mean at least that would be giving us something other than usesless tid bits like the toilet functions.

Passport
03-01-2007, 09:34 AM
I think Nikki would be a much more valuble character without that Paulo around!

merew
03-01-2007, 09:49 AM
Supposedly they're going to be fan favorites after their flashback is aired this season...maybe they're bank robbers on the lam or something...oh wait...that was Kate at one point...

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lostlocke
03-01-2007, 09:57 AM
please spoiler font about upcoming episodes. PLEASE.

islandchica
03-01-2007, 09:59 AM
I am trying not to hate Nikki and Paulo. But it's just so HARD! When I think of it, it's mostly Nikki that bothers me. She acts so condescending... Like how she totally disregarded Hurley's idea about the Volkswagen to his face. Paulo isn't AS bad... But he is still kind of annoying, IMO.

Passport
03-01-2007, 10:04 AM
I am trying not to hate Nikki and Paulo. But it's just so HARD! When I think of it, it's mostly Nikki that bothers me. She acts so condescending... Like how she totally disregarded Hurley's idea about the Volkswagen to his face. Paulo isn't AS bad... But he is still kind of annoying, IMO.

I take it you didn't notice Sun rolling her eyes then.

JoZay
03-01-2007, 10:15 AM
I'm not caring for them too much either. And whats up with Paolo being so possessive with Nikki? When she attempted to follow Hurley, he used his finger (hook) to stop herJust what is their relationship to each other anyway?

yeah Paolo go cut your silly banannas! ( just go away period)

lostlocke
03-01-2007, 10:18 AM
I'm not caring for them too much either. And whats up with Paolo being so possessive with Nikki? When she attempted to follow Hurley, he used his finger (hook) to stop herJust what is their relationship to each other anyway?

yeah Paolo go cut your silly banannas! ( just go away period)



I don't really get why everyone was looking at Hurley like he went bonkers. Why didn't anyone want to go with him? Finding bananas was more important? Can't you just go find them later. Or the next day. Also I don't know what was up with pulling Nikki away like that, what is Paolo her father or something?

islandchica
03-01-2007, 10:18 AM
I take it you didn't notice Sun rolling her eyes then.

No, I did, but at least she had the decency not to say anything to him about it.

BlackLotus
03-01-2007, 10:25 AM
i think many viewer's hostile reaction to nikki and paulo as newcomers pretty much reflects how society reacts to outsiders in general, and it's rather sad, imo.

what they are suffering from is lack of character development.
people complain that they are pointless, yet when they get some lines ( not many so far ) to allow us to get more used to them, people complain that they are 'stealing' lines from their favorite characters.

TPTB have said that they will become iconic characters in their own right, and i am happy to wait and see how they develop rather than just hate them from the start because we dont know them.

maybe y'all should wait untill they've had the chance to do some acting and let us get to know them a bit before you decide to hate them

just my opinion, the choice is yours :)

bearsgonefishin
03-01-2007, 11:40 AM
i think many viewer's hostile reaction to nikki and paulo as newcomers pretty much reflects how society reacts to outsiders in general, and it's rather sad, imo.

what they are suffering from is lack of character development.
people complain that they are pointless, yet when they get some lines ( not many so far ) to allow us to get more used to them, people complain that they are 'stealing' lines from their favorite characters.

TPTB have said that they will become iconic characters in their own right, and i am happy to wait and see how they develop rather than just hate them from the start because we dont know them.

maybe y'all should wait untill they've had the chance to do some acting and let us get to know them a bit before you decide to hate them

just my opinion, the choice is yours :)


thank you.

colin72
03-01-2007, 11:50 AM
maybe y'all should wait untill they've had the chance to do some acting and let us get to know them a bit before you decide to hate them

just my opinion, the choice is yours :)


I chose to just go ahead and hate them.

bearsgonefishin
03-01-2007, 11:53 AM
I chose to just go ahead and hate them.

I asked this earlier but no one really gave me an answer, what have they done that could possibly make you HATE them, thats a strong word. I mean really how much time have they had?? 5 minutes of total screen time?? Plus Nikki is hot, so it cant be that bad when shes on screen. Or do you just hate for the sake of hating?? just curious.

workingmom
03-01-2007, 11:58 AM
:biggrin: I guess this is "The Obligatory N&P Thread" that has been started for every other episode in which they've made an appearance. I hope the writers have gotten the message by now. :smash: If there's to be another shocking death, shock us with them!
100%
I asked this earlier but no one really gave me an answer, what have they done that could possibly make you HATE them, thats a strong word. I mean really how much time have they had?? 5 minutes of total screen time?? Plus Nikki is hot, so it cant be that bad when shes on screen. Or do you just hate for the sake of hating?? just curious.
I dislike them because for both of them, most of their lines have portrayed them as unfriendly, arrogant, irritating, or sometimes all three at the same time. Think of their opening lines, or Paulo's exchange with Desmond -- (Take this one--then I won't have to go out into the jungle to find it on your dead body, or something like that). The only good scene was in the Pearl hatch when Nikki figured out the other screens could display other hatches, while Hatch Expert Locke and Electronics Expert Sayid couldn't come up with that on their own. And Paulo figured out the bathroom still worked. :biggrin:

Lockefan
03-01-2007, 12:10 PM
I have to agree, these two characters seem pointless at this juncture. I think this might be due to the fact that, apparently, a scene was cut out of the episode they originally appeared in and it was their introductory scene, if I have my 411 straight. So we ended up just seeing them sort of materialize with no explanation. Then again, it is realistic that sometimes we would see other survivors hanging around besides just our core group of main characters. I mean, many more peeps survived than just the main characters, so in that sense, their being there adds a certain verisimilitude to the proceedings. It would be unrealistic if the main characters only ever interacted with themselves.

That said, I still have to agree that these two are kind of distracting, and I would prefer LOSTaways who aren't part of the main character core group to just sort of be seen and not heard *lol*. Seriously, they just kind of take me out of the moment. I vote for them just sort of dropping off the radar screen with no fanfare.

P.S. edited to add:

If there's to be another shocking death, shock us with them!
ROFLMBO! I agree. Far as I'm concerned, they could drop unceremoniously off the radar screen OR, if a shocking death or two is really necessary, let it be one or both of them!
:14happy:

C_Lost
03-01-2007, 12:36 PM
:biggrin: The only good scene was in the Pearl hatch when Nikki figured out the other screens could display other hatches, while Hatch Expert Locke and Electronics Expert Sayid couldn't come up with that on their own. And Paulo figured out the bathroom still worked. :biggrin:

This is exactly why I hate them. Who really thinks that Locke and Sayid couldn't have figured that out on thier own. Locke has been there before and knew it was an observation station. Nikki was Captain Obvious pointing that out, and no one likes someone running around pointing out the obvious. We are supposed to belive that Sayid is an electronics expert and w/Nikki pointing that out he just lost some credibility. It's like TPTB just gave Nikki that line just so she would have something to say.

As far as Paulo and the bathroom. That scene would have been 100x more funny if that would have been Hurley coming out of the bathroom saying it still works.

And I'm not hating on them just because they are new. They get on my nerves. I cringed this episode when they first showed Pikki. I didn't mind the scene with the red shirts hugging Kate and Sawyer as they returned. In fact I have like every other new character indroduced on this show including Anna L.

piscescat
03-01-2007, 01:25 PM
I'd actually like to see more of the other Lostaway survivors, even if just a few one-liner walk ons, etc. Not to inflate the budget (since you pay extras more if they have lines) but to help it feel more realistic.

Nikki & Paolo aren't my favorites, but I don't hate them only because we've seen so little of them. I'm looking forward to their flashback ep where we'll learn more about them. It's too bad they didn't get a better introduction into the series. It's not their fault.

Alkhara
03-01-2007, 01:37 PM
they are replacements- fills in. look at all of the characters that are gone; shannon, boone, michael, walt, libby, ana lucia, eko, steve...or was that scott?

and then we have new characters - ben, juliet, tom, alex, karl, paolo and nikki.
4 guys, 3 girls. even trade.

The point is that Ben, Juliet, Tom, Alex and Karl have actually *done* something. They've actually served a purpose over the past 10 episodes. Admittedly, some more than others, but there has been a reason for these characters to exist, and their roles have actually furthered the plot and/or told us something important about the island and it's inhabitants.

All Pikki have managed to do is a) point out the obvious about the hatches and b) find the toilet.

A couple of useful lines.
One episode.
Their total useful screentime could be counted in seconds.

I wouldn't mind them quite so much if they'd actually *do* something.:undecide:

I have almost no faith in good ole Carlton and Damon. Fans will love Nikki and Poop Guy as much as they loved Ana Lucia after good ole Carlton and Damon promised we'd love her.

Hey, I loved Ana!
She was very misunderstood :ana-lucia

Locked_In
03-01-2007, 04:28 PM
Nikki and Paulo are a couple of nut bars I wish would get cracked permanently. They are just 2 more fill ins who take time and lines away from the regulars.

Don't tell me who I have to like!

:kiss:

Eight
03-01-2007, 04:40 PM
I just want to chime in that I hope the others kill them in some raid or war or whatever and that I hope it happens soon. They stick out like like sore thumbs.

LatinoGhost
03-01-2007, 04:50 PM
I think my disliking them comes from the fact that they just aren't important. Every single other *New* character was important as soon as they were FIRST introduced.

-Ana Lucia/Libby/Eko/Bernard all part of the Tailies that came out of Nowhere (nice surprise)
-Danielle was a survivor on the island for 16 years (very cool)
-"Henry Gale" an other in disguise (SHOCKING)
-Alex is Danielle's long lost daughter and she helped Claire escape (cool)
-Desmond we assumed to be an Other and introduced the whole Hatch saga (good stuff)
-Ethan/Juliet/Tom/Ben/Pickett all Others (gave us a good insight into the Others lives)

-Nikki and Paulo..... ummm..... Hmmm can't really think of ANYTHING that should have given us a good first impression... and first impressions are everything. Are we actually expected to believe that after months on the island, FINALLY they are important to the story?... lol i'm sorry, but there is no way i can like these characters.

irish lost fan
03-01-2007, 04:54 PM
Nikki and Paulo are here to infuriate the audience. They are like two crazed lost fans that won a competition to have them appear on the show.

I don't know if im allowed say this but they are both so bad at acting. They're lines seem forced and out of place.

Its been 10 episodes and they are still completly and utterly useless.

Get rid of Pikki!

annieone
03-01-2007, 04:55 PM
i think many viewer's hostile reaction to nikki and paulo as newcomers pretty much reflects how society reacts to outsiders in general, and it's rather sad, imo.

what they are suffering from is lack of character development.
people complain that they are pointless, yet when they get some lines ( not many so far ) to allow us to get more used to them, people complain that they are 'stealing' lines from their favorite characters.

TPTB have said that they will become iconic characters in their own right, and i am happy to wait and see how they develop rather than just hate them from the start because we dont know them.

maybe y'all should wait untill they've had the chance to do some acting and let us get to know them a bit before you decide to hate them

just my opinion, the choice is yours :)


I just must thank you too, my thoughts exactly.... One of Lost major mysteries is why people hate (I mean, really hate) those two so much. "Line thieves"? Waste of time" . what, 3 minutes and 30 seconds in 10 episodes?

Alkhara
03-01-2007, 05:54 PM
I'd like to give Paolo and Nikki to Isabel, she'd take care of them :sneaky2:

polusmaximus
03-01-2007, 06:07 PM
I really don't like those two....Why would they be introducing new characters when the old ones barely have any lines? They both had more lines than Claire, and almost as many as Locke, Sayid, and Sun....


This should be answered shortly....oh who am I kidding? it will be revealed at the end of season 5

RubberDucky
03-01-2007, 06:21 PM
it seems that every time they are given a line it is to complain about something - I think that is why so many people claim to "hate" them. I don't care either way for them personally, but would appreciate a backstory so I could decide

gusthepolarbear
03-01-2007, 07:54 PM
get rid of pikki right naolo!

lostforumdefector
03-01-2007, 08:04 PM
Yes, but Lindelof and Cuse claim we are going to feel differently about Nikki and Poop Guy eventually. You know, like they said once we learned Anna Lucia's backstory we would feel completely different about her. Hmm, bad example they failed miserably and were completely wrong on that one.

Yes, but we disliked Ana Lucia because she was so dislikable! She was skillfully inserted into the show, she had a role to play, and people hated her because of her actions.

We hate "Piki and Naulo" because they have been so clumsily inserted into the show and have no character qualities to distinguish them. They are pointless. They have no role.

I have said this before in other threads. The writers KNOW how to introduce new characters -- look at Juliet, Tom, Alex... WHY then, have they done such a terrible job with these two people? Is it on purpose??

Nevermore
03-01-2007, 10:00 PM
What if Paulo and Nikki were actually Others spies?

LostGrrrl
03-01-2007, 10:54 PM
What if Paulo and Nikki were actually Others spies?




that wouldn't work, Hurley checked everyone against the manifest. wouldn't he notice a couple new people around after that?

Amber
03-01-2007, 10:59 PM
If you guys want to know more about their 'purpose' on the island you can look around in the spoilers section, there is a little bit more information there.

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Jynes
03-01-2007, 11:09 PM
that wouldn't work, Hurley checked everyone against the manifest. wouldn't he notice a couple new people around after that?

What if the "real" Pikki were kidnapped by the others cloned and their copies were sent to the Losties camp to collect information.?

Carlo210
03-01-2007, 11:57 PM
That was pretty random, when I saw that I wasn't even sure what happened. It was almost unnecessary. It would probably been more effective if we actually knew the characters.
Nikki always wants to help and do stuff, Paulo doesn't. Paulo pulled back Nikki (who would've volunteered to help Hurley undoubtedly) because he didn't want to get dragged along with her on another 'quest' (which are always boring for him). Made sense to me.

TheLostProject
03-02-2007, 12:20 AM
I think my disliking them comes from the fact that they just aren't important. Every single other *New* character was important as soon as they were FIRST introduced.

-Ana Lucia/Libby/Eko/Bernard all part of the Tailies that came out of Nowhere (nice surprise)
-Danielle was a survivor on the island for 16 years (very cool)
-"Henry Gale" an other in disguise (SHOCKING)
-Alex is Danielle's long lost daughter and she helped Claire escape (cool)
-Desmond we assumed to be an Other and introduced the whole Hatch saga (good stuff)
-Ethan/Juliet/Tom/Ben/Pickett all Others (gave us a good insight into the Others lives)

-Nikki and Paulo..... ummm..... Hmmm can't really think of ANYTHING that should have given us a good first impression... and first impressions are everything. Are we actually expected to believe that after months on the island, FINALLY they are important to the story?... lol i'm sorry, but there is no way i can like these characters.

Chalk me up with the camp that wishes for Pikki to disappear, whether it be a death, or just "they've been busy doing other stuff with other survivors".

Bring Bernard/Rose back. I'm much more interested in them, and Rose is nearly as hot as Nikki. I always thought the whole cancer disappearance story would've been interesting.

Charmedfreak
03-02-2007, 03:34 AM
Well I could handle them this week, but they still bug me. I'm really starting to think they are technically meant as replacements for Rose/Bernard, since I think they didn't go well with the viewers in season 2. It looks like it, since they have completely been removed from episodes.

Still I can handle Nikki more than Paulo. Kill Paulo now.

Alkhara
03-02-2007, 05:22 AM
What if Paulo and Nikki were actually Others spies?

Do you really think that the Others would tolerate them? They wouldn't last five minutes!

Besides, they're not nearly intriguing enough to be Others. :rolleyes:

tzetrik
03-02-2007, 06:02 AM
I have money on them being the playable characters in Ubisofts LOST video game. Remember "Enter the Matrix"?

crystalshpr
03-02-2007, 06:34 AM
did you notice that nikki was wearing a red shirt?:biggrin:

ommadawn
03-02-2007, 09:37 AM
I really don't like those two....Why would they be introducing new characters when the old ones barely have any lines? They both had more lines than Claire, and almost as many as Locke, Sayid, and Sun....
Because it's a way to make a living....:cool:

Sherry
03-02-2007, 09:42 AM
Nikki always wants to help and do stuff, Paulo doesn't. Paulo pulled back Nikki (who would've volunteered to help Hurley undoubtedly) because he didn't want to get dragged along with her on another 'quest' (which are always boring for him). Made sense to me.

Those were my thoughts exactly. I actually thought it was funny and got a little giggle out of it.

I think I'd appreciate these characters more if we got a backstory on them. Right now they're just taking up time. I would have much preferred they'd have given Sceve or Scan more screen time.

missioni
03-02-2007, 09:46 AM
Their flashback episode better be absolutely killer. It's tough not to mention anything spoilerish, but I have a feeling that they are going to give us tremendous insight into another aspect of the island.


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Alkhara
03-02-2007, 10:05 AM
Their flashback episode better be absolutely killer.

My thoughts exactly.
TPTB had better be ready to justify Pikki's existence.

We have been *told* that it's supposed to be a great ep .... and it's not like TPTB would mislead us or anything, would they? :dry:


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ChumpyBobo
03-02-2007, 10:19 AM
Come on people, they are in the show to ramp up the sexiness. They serve no other real purpose. That is why I don't think the writers have developed them as much, they do not have as much of a vested interest, rather they are being forced on them from TPTB. Yes maybe they will have a flashback episode, but seriously, they are a waste right now, kind of as all of season 3 has been.

Lockefan
03-02-2007, 10:32 AM
Hey, I loved Ana! She was very misunderstood :ana-lucia
I LOVED Ana, too. As with all the great LOST characters, she was very multi-faceted, conflicted, surprising, etc. Michelle Rodriguez was compelling as Ana. AL was a fascinating character to me. In a totally different league from "Pikki".

...I'm really starting to think they are technically meant as replacements for Rose/Bernard...It looks like it, since they have completely been removed from episodes.
Bring Bernard/Rose back. I'm much more interested in them
I don't think Rose and Bernard are gone! We just haven't seen 'em recently. LOST is a large ensemble cast and, to state the obvious, we don't see all the characters every week or even every few weeks. Rose and Bernard are wonderful characters and a great couple. They haven't gone anywhere.

*Michelle*
03-02-2007, 11:45 AM
IIRC, last season on Spoilerfix

I read that there was going to be an episode introducing two new characters, a couple who were on a boating adventure around the world and who crashed into the island much in the same way as Desmond did. I would guess that the episode got cut, but that this is who Nikki and Paulo are supposed to be.

Starrox
03-02-2007, 02:04 PM
missioni and Leyosura - please read the spoiler rules again! All information about upcoming episodes must be spoiler fonted, including casting information, the episode titles and who gets a flashback and when.

Charmedfreak
03-02-2007, 07:51 PM
I LOVED Ana, too. As with all the great LOST characters, she was very multi-faceted, conflicted, surprising, etc. Michelle Rodriguez was compelling as Ana. AL was a fascinating character to me. In a totally different league from "Pikki".



I don't think Rose and Bernard are gone! We just haven't seen 'em recently. LOST is a large ensemble cast and, to state the obvious, we don't see all the characters every week or even every few weeks. Rose and Bernard are wonderful characters and a great couple. They haven't gone anywhere.

They better be back this season. It would be bad if they didn't turn up all season. Its true that we cant see everyone every week, but I guess I'd prefer to have them on screen than Nikki/Paulo. Perhaps the producers will not introduce any newbies next season, and upgrade characrers to regulars, like Rose, Bernard, Alex or Danielle.

But my biggest problem is they steal screentime from characters. Sun/Jin were therefore gone for 7 episodes in a row, Claire/Hurley/Charlie got less screentime too. Its annoys me that they got put before them. I understand they need to develope them. but to me originals come first.

The only reason there flashback will be any good and liked is we are seeing events from season 1 and 2 and getting to see Shannon, Boone, Steve etc. again. Anyway we know Paulo is going this season anyway, so I'm not gonna be sad when he goes. But if Charlie dies as rumored over Paulo, then I will be mad.

Shamu
03-03-2007, 07:54 AM
At this point it would be the only thing that could get me to truly like these characters. Have them actually be a part of the island, like Yemi, but no one knows it yet until they reveal themselves.

I could see it now...
Have Jack undergo some kind of conditioning/take some kind of medicine so he is immune to the effects of the island, and when he sees them have him say "WHO IN THE HELL ARE THEY!?"

LOST

(this would be a cliffhanger episode ender of course) :biggrin:

Oh my god! Oh my god!!!!

After readin this it made me remember that
In next weeks "lost moment" on the ABC website, it shows Sawyer talking with Nikki and they say something like:
S- "That stash was mine!"
N- "Well it wasnt really yours was it?"
S- "A- it was mine when i took it and B- Who the hell are you?"

WHAT?! Is this just a mess up by TBTP and they just thought "oh Sawyer was away when we introduced Nikki and Poalo so he hasnt seen them before)" or what?! my head is kinda spinning! Help...

Shamu x

Starrox
03-03-2007, 08:43 AM
Uhm, Charmedfreak, did you read my post right above yours? Now guess why the following paragraph had to be edited! :wallbash:

The only reason there flashback will be any good and liked is we are seeing events from season 1 and 2 and getting to see Shannon, Boone, Steve etc. again. Anyway we know Paulo is going this season anyway, so I'm not gonna be sad when he goes. But if Charlie dies as rumored over Paulo, then I will be mad.

Mr. Find
03-03-2007, 12:11 PM
Nikki and Paulo are like bobblehead dolls among the finest Michelangelo's.

Mr and Mrs Lost-producer, please stop this madness!!!!