Wasn't one of the guys in Rousseau's team named Roger? I feel like we've heard that name somewhere in season 1.

The only names i remeber her saying was " robert " ( her husband i believe ) and "martrand" or somethin like that-he lost his arm.

Yup. Robert was Danielle's husband's name... If we can believe anything that comes out of her delusional head.

The only names i remeber her saying was " robert " ( her husband i believe ) and "martrand" or somethin like that-he lost his arm.

"Montan" I think it was? That's how it's spelled on the transcripts. Anyways, yeah, Danielle's husband's name was Robert.

Not sure if this should be it's own thread or maybe tacked on to a few others, but wanted to consolidate... feel free to delete if necessary:

I like the thoughts that Roger went missing around the time of the Dharma "incident", that would explain why no recovery of the vehicle or body was attempted.

It would also explain why he didn't have a hazmat suit on, since post "incident" Dharma workers appeared to be wearing them while traveling outside. I think this would also point to the incident clearly being sickness/disease related.

It seems that after the incident they changed the format of how things operated in the Swan as well. (Roger was wearing a Swan jumpsuit, not just a generic Dharma one). From what we knew, there was only two members in the Swan hatch at any given point. I'm guessing the Swan hatch was much more of a recreation area before the incident, (dart board, lounge area, ping pong, would also make sense why he had the beer and why he was a work man/janitor (if in fact he reallu was, I think that was just assumed by Sawyer))

And why was Roger's jumpsuit the only one we've seen that is labeled with a name and title? (I'm guessing just for the comedy/writing purposes of last night's show, but worth mentioning still).

Any thoughts?

You know, it is stuff like this - them finding a van and dead body not too far from camp - that makes me think they should just set the whole frigging jungle on fire to see what else is hiding in there. Burn it down!

Yeah I think Rog is gonna be full of clues. Especially the "Work Man" label. I'm not really convinced that this means janitor, the swan is really pretty small and doesn't require a person dedicated to cleaning it. What else could he have been working on??

I bet back in the headier DHARMA days they all had their names on their jumpsuits. I bet there's a boy's jumpsuit in a locker somewhere that says "Benjamin" on it haha.

They were pretty cavalier about poor Roger's body. Somebody should eventually take the time to bury him and put up a twiggy cross.

I bet back in the headier DHARMA days they all had their names on their jumpsuits. I bet there's a boy's jumpsuit in a locker somewhere that says "Benjamin" on it haha.

You're probably right! Once a flying demon of smoke started roaming the island, I'm sure a few details, like names on jumpsuits, were overlooked due to more pressing concerns. :biggrin:

Oh Roger, we hardly knew ye....

Yup. Robert was Danielle's husband's name... If we can believe anything that comes out of her delusional head.



Actually, for some reason I believe that Danielle actually speaks the truth most of the time. For me, I think she is a prophet of sorts on the island. Everyone thinks she is crazy, but I think she is right a lot of the time. Like how she insisted that Ben was an other when she caught him in her trap. She knew the truth, if only they would have believed her.

I thought the name on the jump suit was unusual. Figuring it must be there for a reason, I tried anagrams for Roger work man. Not a lot there that makes sense. This is probably a stretch, but I started looking at Warn Germ Rook. The warning of a germ would related to the "sickness". Rook is another name for a Con. Could this be a confirmation that the sickness was a scam?

Does anyone else think "Work Man" in this context is a very unusual use of English? "Workman" is the more common form; "work man" strikes me as clincal and technical, almost as though it had been written by a non-native speaker.

The fact that such labels (although curiously devoid of surnames) were deemed necessary at all suggests the island was once heavily populated, and may have been a more regimented, almost militaristic environment than the commune-type society I'd pictured. The most intriguing aspect is that Roger was left to rot, his cargo undelivered.

I would assume that if they wrote Roger Workman, we would believe that to be his last name, as some people already speculate.
Writing it as Work Man clearly makes that a title.

That crossed my mind too, and I think you're probably right. The unusual construct just piqued my interest.

I think Roger was leftover from the "Incident" the training film talks about. We have not found out much on this "Incident" yet. Could be he was hauling beer to a party when the "Incident" happened.

Honestly, it would make my day if the reason for the first incident was that they were having a party and the music was too loud, and they couldn't hear the beeping of the button needing to be pushed.

Honestly, it would make my day if the reason for the first incident was that they were having a party and the music was too loud, and they couldn't hear the beeping of the button needing to be pushed.

That would be HOT!!! :biggrin: lol

I'm hoping that the "incident" will either be vastly entertaining (ie. party theory) or a thissumsupeverything type deal.

and roger had a rabbit keychain...i wonder if he was framed

I will bet you dollars to donuts that their desecration of Roger's body will bring on punishment by The Others at a later date. I mean they think they're being all funny, but get real, as Hurley said, that's someone's son.

Don

well if it was an incident at least we know he had his priorities straight and grabbed the beer.

I love that his name was Roger and that he had a rabbits foot.
Cute.

and roger had a rabbit keychain...i wonder if he was framed

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Clearly!

I liked the addition of the traditional sign of luck with the rabbit's foot...proving further that you have to create your own luck. Yeps, the ol rabbit's foot did Rog no good...

p.s. Gus, your avi is Teh Awesomness!

Roger may have been the guy that picked up all the garbage from the Swan Hatch, hence Sawyer's line "what's with all the recycling in here?" Think about it, food drops in from a plane, but where does the trash go out? Sawyer's right - Roger was a janitor.

On a related note, the blueprints in the van looked like civil engineering plans to construct a road up to the Swan hatch back door to make his job easier, so he wouldn't, say, roll the van and kill himself. I'm also thinking that he helped himself to some of the Swan's beer.

I wish we could know how far he was in relation to the actual Swan hatch presently.
If he was far enough away, it would make sense that during the "incident" when the magnetic anomaly was left unchecked (which is what I believe part of the incident to be) the pull or push, depending on his location to the hatch, could have cause the van to tip, hence no broken windows...
Roger could have been parked enjoying a nice cold one when it happened, which was why the key wasn't in the ignition?
Roger was a good boy, he wasn't drinking and driving.

I read the entire thread and didn't come across anyone else with my theory...

Could Roger have been on the way to the Swan, with a supply of beer, to be the button pusher? His name and "position" clearly marked on his jumpsuit would make him easily identifiable to those watching via monitor in another station. Maybe Roger had a little too much beer on his way to the Swan, crashed, and because he never got there, he caused the "incident"

Just a thought!

I read the entire thread and didn't come across anyone else with my theory...

Could Roger have been on the way to the Swan, with a supply of beer, to be the button pusher? His name and "position" clearly marked on his jumpsuit would make him easily identifiable to those watching via monitor in another station. Maybe Roger had a little too much beer on his way to the Swan, crashed, and because he never got there, he caused the "incident"

Just a thought!

So what happened to the other button pusher? We were told that there were always two of them.

I bet Roger was Jolly...aargh. :pirate2:

The name tag made me remember Jane Elliott's exercise and the Stanford Prison Experiment. Maybe he was tagged to know 'what his place was', even if the island wasn't largely populated at any time. Links below for reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

How did the flight attendant get through the plane crash ? Were they all brain washed into thinking there was a plane crash ? What are they there to watch ?

I thought that the "skeleton" looked fake, at least to me. I just can't shake that everything is set up on this island. Does a head fall off a corpse like that????

I thought that the "skeleton" looked fake, at least to me. I just can't shake that everything is set up on this island. Does a head fall off a corpse like that????

the skeleton looked fake because it was - keep in mind that lost is an entertainment product and not a documentary.

I thought that the "skeleton" looked fake, at least to me. I just can't shake that everything is set up on this island. Does a head fall off a corpse like that????


i have a skeleton in my closet right now and yes, the darned head keeps popping off! j/k do you think the skeleton looked less real than the ones jack & kate found in the caves?

You'd think it would smell pretty bad, though.

Good one, what I meant was, especially this season for some reason, I feel like all of what is happening is "staged". I know the obvious clue was finding the makeup and costumes the 'others' wore, but it just seems "set up" to me.... I'm just rambling on.....

No, I see what you're getting at, ppdurk. The van was almost like a gift from the island, no? ;)

and roger had a rabbit keychain...i wonder if he was framedWho framed Roger ?:biggrin:

Roger had Work Man on his jumper so does that mean some of the Dharma people had Good Man on their jumpers?

Does anyone else think "Work Man" in this context is a very unusual use of English? "Workman" is the more common form; "work man" strikes me as clincal and technical, almost as though it had been written by a non-native speaker.


I did indeed find it peculiar that they would use that phrasing of "work man." It kind of gave the whole thing a staged feeling to me.
100%
they should just set the whole frigging jungle on fire to see what else is hiding in there. Burn it down!

I was about to agree, thinking that's maybe what I would do. But then you'd risk burning too many valuable clues!

I bet that skeleton is actually Jack from the future. Or the past. Or both

I bet that skeleton is actually Jack from the future. Or the past. Or both:eek2: Oh my gosh! Would that theory mean James and Kate are Adam & Eve from the cave :eek:

Wasn't one of the guys in Rousseau's team named Roger? I feel like we've heard that name somewhere in season 1.



The only mention of "Roger" prior to the TTID episode:S1E4 Locke: Roger that. We'll convene at the usual rendezvous point at 13:00 hoursRandy is the only notable connection between these two episodes, for whatever that is worth.

Roger and out. :lipsseal:

Actually, for some reason I believe that Danielle actually speaks the truth most of the time. For me, I think she is a prophet of sorts on the island. Everyone thinks she is crazy, but I think she is right a lot of the time. Like how she insisted that Ben was an other when she caught him in her trap. She knew the truth, if only they would have believed her.

Agreed. I'm just having fun with the doubt the writers have tossed into our minds about her. Danielle is going to be key to the Losties getting off the Island, if they ever do.

and roger had a rabbit keychain...i wonder if he was framed
haha who framed roger rabbit. good connection. Does this mean the van has a mind of its own? (Can only be seen and heard after drinking though, hence the beer :p)

You know, it is stuff like this - them finding a van and dead body not too far from camp - that makes me think they should just set the whole frigging jungle on fire to see what else is hiding in there. Burn it down!

It is stuff like this that makes me question: How the heck can Danielle live on this island for 16 years, and map out some of it, and NOT find stuff like this? :rolleyes: