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Karri
03-01-2007, 12:08 PM
Anyone watch this series on TV? (I mean the TV eps, not the movies that rewrote the ending) Well last nights Lost ep had a lot of parallels to Evangelion's last ep. In that ep the main character Shinji is whining once again about how worthless he is and how insignificant he is. He is told by TPTB (I think that is who it was anyway) that he is worthless and insignificant because he perceives himself to be so and that reality sucked because he perceived it to be as bad as it was and that he had the possibility for change if he would only perceive things to be the way he wanted them to be. TPTB showed him an alternate reality where he was popular and had friends and all of the Evangelion pilots were just kids in school and there was no war and so on, but in order for that to happen, he had to perceive reality to be that. (I could be way off on the interpretation of this ep, it got pretty confusing by that time)

So to get to my point... I wonder if TPTB for Lost had seen this series because last night's ep really seemed like it had the same theme. Hurley's reality got better once he perceived it to be better. So maybe they are all stuck on the island because they believe they are stuck on the island? If they believed there was a way to escape, maybe reality would alter to provide that means of escape. I don't just mean have a positive attitude kind of thing, in Evangelion reality was actually supposed to alter based on the attitude of the character. So Charlie is only destined to die if he believes he is destined to die, if he believes that he won't die, maybe reality will alter to accommodate? Hurley believed the van would start up and it seems reality did alter to accommodate that because there is no way that the van should have been able to start after so long.

And then again I could be babbling... :)

cinamin
03-01-2007, 03:06 PM
I like that. It's relevent to the "We make our own luck" line that I've heard in Hurley's episodes. Lost seems to have a whole "You gotta believe in yourself" theme going and if what you described is a part of the show then it would be a pretty significant theme in terms of survival on the Island.

So as long as you have hope, you can make your own luck.

diabolo237
03-01-2007, 03:13 PM
Ah, powers of the mind being stronger than reality! I like it alot... especially since it applies in RL as well. The powers of positive thinking could explain how alot of things happen on the island. Good catch! ;)

halfrek
03-01-2007, 03:43 PM
we all know that our LOST PTB are huge fans of all genres. it is entirely plausible that they took some of that shows illustration on life being what you make it and brought it over. wonder how many of the VIPs would confess to being anime/manga fans as well as Trek/Sci Fi fans ;)

JohnnyREB1977
03-01-2007, 04:11 PM
Yo Karri,

I like your idea a lot, especially because Neon Genesis Evangelion has been mentioned a few times in a few threads in General Theories (the two threads I'm most familiar with are the LOyal to the queSt threads, 6 and 9). I think you're right that their outlook on life and their belief that they can change their circumstances will greatly impact the show. I'm wonderin' if that ability, coupled with the Swan explosion, didn't have somethin' to do with Desmond's last flashback?

Karri
03-01-2007, 04:30 PM
cool, I will have to go check those out. :)

Superman
03-01-2007, 04:52 PM
very interesting theory with perception equaling reality... it kind of makes you wonder because most of the survivors believed that they were stranded because they were 1,000 miles of course from their flightplan when they crashed... it was only a few that really thought they were still going to be rescued within those first few weeks-- Shannon, etc... but did they really believe that or were they putting out statements they really didn't perceive to be true in order to keep their spirits up?

look at how Locke helped Charlie... gave up the drugs and Locke "found" his guitar... also with Rose having faith from the very beginning that Bernard was alive and would come back to her, and he was and did...

Myha
03-01-2007, 07:29 PM
So to get to my point... I wonder if TPTB for Lost had seen this series because last night's ep really seemed like it had the same theme. Hurley's reality got better once he perceived it to be better. So maybe they are all stuck on the island because they believe they are stuck on the island? If they believed there was a way to escape, maybe reality would alter to provide that means of escape. I don't just mean have a positive attitude kind of thing, in Evangelion reality was actually supposed to alter based on the attitude of the character. So Charlie is only destined to die if he believes he is destined to die, if he believes that he won't die, maybe reality will alter to accommodate? Hurley believed the van would start up and it seems reality did alter to accommodate that because there is no way that the van should have been able to start after so long.

And then again I could be babbling... :)So... if this also ties into attitude, does that mean that everybody on the island can be whoever they want to be?? Like a real, John Locke-typish Tabula Rasa??

Considering that Kate also mentioned giving eachother a clean slate in this epi, that could also tie in...

Maybe the flashbacks are what's holding them back. that because they still remember their past and don't try to change it, it will still shape them, but if they believe in a change like Hurley did last night, they might be able to overcome what they were, and turn into something new...

(the more I write, the more interested I get... can you tell??:rolleyes: )

very interesting theory with perception equaling reality... it kind of makes you wonder because most of the survivors believed that they were stranded because they were 1,000 miles of course from their flightplan when they crashed... it was only a few that really thought they were still going to be rescued within those first few weeks-- Shannon, etc... but did they really believe that or were they putting out statements they really didn't perceive to be true in order to keep their spirits up?

look at how Locke helped Charlie... gave up the drugs and Locke "found" his guitar... also with Rose having faith from the very beginning that Bernard was alive and would come back to her, and he was and did...So... IF this theory works... then they WILL be rescued if they only believe it strongly enough?? Or does rescue here mean death??

JohnnyREB1977
03-01-2007, 07:35 PM
So... IF this theory works... then they WILL be rescued if they only believe it strongly enough?? Or does rescue here mean death??

Hey kiddo,

I think rescue means rescue if you really believe in it. Death might occur if you don't really believe, but I don't think we have evidence of that yet