Was looking through screen caps and discovered there was a piece of paper next to the scull...if you rotate the picture, or can read upside down i suppose, It has a heading of "Ho'oulu Lahui." I looked it up and it is says it is a non-profit organization in Hawaii with some affiliation to a school. Is this a prop error? Is it there for a reason? Seems to me if they new they were going to focus on the skull for even a brief second, knowing how often fans scrutinize screen shots, they would have not included an irrelevant document. I know its probably not anything but i found it odd.

Heres the screen:


http://gallery.lost-media.com/albums/ep-caps/season3/3x10-tricia/2/tricia-cap315.jpg

I found this info from:
http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096412876


In Hawaii, Keikialoha Kekipi and Ho'oulu Lahui of Pahoa were honored. Ho'oulu Lahui, an educational nonprofit organization, preserves cultural traditions and practices of ancient Hawaiians. By embracing traditional concepts and merging them with the latest in technology, its goal is a sustainable community living in harmony with the environment.

The organization's 600-acre coastal land base includes an ancient Hawaiian village that serves as a cultural and environmental learning center. Ho'oulu Lahui's partnership with Kua oka La Public Charter school includes plans for the first totally driven solar school in the state of Hawaii.

''Ho'oulu Lahui is an exemplary environmental model for educational agencies,'' the EPA said. Among its activities, it partners with college students on forest management and hosts students, families and educators from across the world on its solar program and other environmental practices.


Also this:
http://www.huapala.org/Ko_Mai_Hoeueu.html


Continuity of the Hawaiian race was essential, as expressed in King Kalâkaua's motto "Ho`oulu Lahui" or "Increase the Race". This ma`i in honor of King Kalâkaua gives him the name Halala, meaning overly large


interesting.......hmmmmmm hawaii huh?.....Any thoughts?

It doesn't say Honolulu. The best that I can make out, with the help of Hawai'ian dictionaries, for the first word is Ho'oalu. Which would be "an exemplified type of taro"?

ETA: well, I was close, I think Jetschick beat me to the real answer.

Klalkis- I just went off what spoops typed because I had a hard time making out the letters in the cap. To blurry for my eyes. Are we sure on the spelling spoops?
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if the spelling is right ..that meaning of "increase the race" is kinda creepy

i had originally thought it was an '"ho'oalu" as well but i didn't find any searches for that, when i typed it in, it gave me the "did you mean ho'oulu lahui" so i assumed it was that
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think we can piece together the rest of it? it definitely ends with a "sincerely," and then theres a name, looks like the first and last names are about 4 or 5 letters long and i believe the initials are S. O.... The last name looks almost like Otare or Otane

I agree with you on the first name starting with an S. I blew it up, rotated it, skewed it and inverted the colors but that was all I could make out. I wish we had a better HD cap. Dang it!!!! :wallbash: :ranting:

I blew it up, rotated it, skewed it and inverted the colors but that was all I could make out.

I tried it, too. Nothing. I have a feeling it doesn't mean anything. They probably just grabbed a bunch of papers for props and that one happened to wind up under Roger's skull. Heck, they're probably chuckling at the fact that we're trying to decipher it. :grin:

You're probably right, especially because of the Hawaiian words but ...:39:

Besides I feel like I haven't had anything to ponder over in 2 weeks...Now if they would have given us the REST of Jack's tattoo, I might have had that to keep me busy:ermm:

You're probably right, especially because of the Hawaiian words but ...:39:

Besides I feel like I haven't had anything to ponder over in 2 weeks...Now if they would have given us the REST of Jack's tattoo, I might have had that to keep me busy:ermm:


What rest? I doubt they'll go into detail about it as that IS Matthew Fox's tattoo in real life.

The part of his tattoo that I want to know about is the part that matches Danielle's maps

The part of his tattoo that I want to know about is the part that matches Danielle's maps


I'm drawing a blank on that one. Refresh my memory.

I'm drawing a blank on that one. Refresh my memory.

Back in S1, when Sayid got a hold of Danielle's maps, he overlaped them to make another map of sorts and it formed a triangle like the center of Jack's tat. I don't remember the epi name...but there was discussion about it on the season 1 boards and lots of caps and www.lostlinks.net (http://www.lostlinks.net) has the caps of the maps too

Here''s the link.
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/3x10/readingRoger.jpg

I tried to rotate the pic and play with the light (I'm no good up uploading pics, sorry)

looks like Ho' eleo (sp?) Lahui.

any thoughts?

Here''s the link.
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/3x10/readingRoger.jpg

I tried to rotate the pic and play with the light (I'm no good up uploading pics, sorry)

looks like Ho' eleo (sp?) Lahui.

any thoughts?


Ho`ola Lahui

Ho'ola is Hawaiian for

Save (I believe)


Lahui is Hawaiian for

Race
Tribe
Species


(just going by the Hawiian to English dictionary)

I believe it's Ho'oulu Lahui. Lots of stuff comes up when you search for it.
I think this is being discussed in other threads. An HD cap would probably make the letter more visible.

From what I've read, it seems to be related to Hawaiian secessionism and therefore probably a prop with no inherent significance.

It could be some literature that Roger had. This island is more than a thousand miles from Hawaii right? Far, but maybe it's something he picked up on the way out.

1843 - Ka Lahui: Hawaiian Independence Day - The Kingdom of Hawaii is officially recognized by the United Kingdom and France as an independent nation.


1,8,4,3,= (losts of ways to use all 4 to get either numbers 4 and 8...1-8=7-3=4+4=8. also just 4 and 8)
8+4+3x1=15
1+8+4+3=16
1+8=9...9x3=27....27-4=23
8-4=4 and 3-1=2 thus 42 (ok, that was a reach I know)

any other ideas?


4 8 15 16 23 42

I think I got some good leads on this. I went to the FirstSearch online database and searched for the words "Ho`oulu Lahui", and I came up with the following five records of various publications that contain those two words. Perhaps some of you might have some clearer insights into these records, but it seems to me as if the phrase translates as: "To Raise a Nation" or "To Increase and Preserve the Nation".

It also appears that there is an annual Ho`oulu Lahui Festival held in Carson, California, and that it started in 1992. It seems to be centered on the Hula - the traditional Hawaiian dance.


Record #1:
Title: Report of Na Kumu Hula Mana`o o Hula =
(Hula Instructors' Thoughts of Hula).
Corp Author(s): Kumu Hula Mana`o o Hula (1997 : Carson, Calif.)
Publication: [Carson, Calif. : Kumu Hula Mana`o o Hula,
Year: 1997
Description: 8 p. ; 28 cm.
Language: English
SUBJECT(S) Descriptors:
Hula teachers -- California -- Congresses.
Hula teachers -- California -- Attitudes.
Hula (Dance) -- California -- Congresses.
Hula (Dance) -- California.
Note(s): Report of a gathering of hula instructors held during the 6th annual Ho`oulu Lahui Cultural Fair, Carson Community Center, Carson, Calif., Nov. 29, 1997.
Class Descriptors: LC: GV1796.H8
Other Titles: Kumu Hula Mana`o o Hula; Hula Instructors' Thoughts of Hula
Material Type: Conference publication (cnp)
Document Type: Book
Entry: 20040218
Update: 20040524
Accession No: OCLC: 54442496

Record #2:
Title: OHA's strategic plan 2002-2007 :
Office of Hawaiian Affairs strategic plan.
Corp Author(s): Office of Hawaiian Affairs.
Publication: Honolulu, HI : [Office of Hawaiian Affairs,
Year: 2002
Description: 116 p. : ill. ; 28 cm.
Language: English
SUBJECT(S) Descriptors: Hawaiians -- Services for -- Planning.
Named Corp: Office of Hawaiian Affairs -- Planning.
Class Descriptors: LC: DU624.65
Other Titles: Office of Hawaiian Affairs' strategic plan 2002-2007; Office of Hawaiian Affairs strategic plan; Ho`oulu lahui aloha =; To raise a beloved nation : 2002-2007
Material Type: Government publication (gpb); State or province government publication (sgp)
Document Type: Book
Entry: 20030604
Update: 20040205
Accession No: OCLC: 52369962

Record #3:
Title: 2nd Annual Ho`oulu Lahui Festival :
(Increase and preserve the nation).
Corp Author(s): Hawaiian Communitiy Center Association.
Conf Author(s): Ho`oulu Lahui Festival (2nd : Carson, Calif.)
Publication: Carson, Calif. : Hawaiian Community Center Association,
Year: 1993
Description: [6] p. ; 22 cm.
Language: English
SUBJECT(S) Descriptors: Hawaiians -- Congresses.
Note(s): Cover title.
Class Descriptors: LC: DU624.65
Other Titles: Increase and preserve the nation.
Material Type: Conference publication (cnp)
Document Type: Book
Entry: 19940127
Update: 20020430
Accession No: OCLC: 30006102

Record #4:
Title: Constitution & by-laws of the Ahahui hooulu a hoola society.
Organized February 19, 1874.
Corp Author(s): Hui hooulu a hoola lahui of Kalakaua I. Kawaiahao.
Publication: Honolulu, H.I., "Daily bulletin steam Print. Office,"
Year: 1888
Description: 16 p. 22 cm.
Language: English
Note(s): Includes reports of the society's relief work./ Reproduction: Microfilm./ Ann Arbor,/ University of Michigan, University Library, Preservation Office Microfilming Unit,/ 1984./ 1 reel. 35 mm./ Microfilm (negative)./ Ann Arbor,/ University of Michigan, University Library, Preservation Office Microfilming Unit,/ 1984./ 1 reel. 35 mm.
Material Type: Microfilm (mfl); Master microform (mmc)
Document Type: Book
Entry: 19840622
Update: 20030723
Accession No: OCLC: 14459320

Record #5:
Title: Constitution & by-laws of the Ahahui hooulu a hoola society.
Organized February 19, 1874.
Corp Author(s): Hui hooulu a hoola lahui of Kalakaua I. Kawaiahao.
Publication: Honolulu, H. I., "Daily bulletin steam printing office,"
Year: 1888
Description: 16 p. 22 cm.
Language: English
Note(s): Includes reports of the society's relief work.
Document Type: Book
Entry: 19880715
Update: 20060408
Accession No: OCLC: 65850758

It also appears that there is an annual Ho`oulu Lahui Festival held in Carson, California, and that it started in 1992. It seems to be centered on the Hula - the traditional Hawaiian dance.

I wanted to chase down some possible leads connected to the Ho`oulu Lahui Hula Dance Festival held in Carson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carson%2C_California), California, so I looked it up in Wikipedia and got the following data:

Carson is a suburb of Los Angeles, located south of that city. It has a lot of industry within its limits. The 2000 Census lists 89,730 residents, of which 2.99% (or 2683) were Pacific Islanders. This would provide a large enough population to be able to host an annual Hula competition. There is also a very renowned Hula Dance Company located in Carson called Na Pua me Kealoha (http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/fibanez/HalauOLilinoe/Hula%20Halau%20'O%20Lilinoe%20-%20Kane%20Na%20Pua%20Me%20Kealoha.html)that has won many awards at the famous Merry Monarch Festival (http://www.merriemonarchfestival.org/)on the Big Island in Hawaii.

In addition, the following movies and tv shows have been filmed in the city limits of Carson:

24 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0285331/) (Used CSUDH (http://www.csudh.edu/) but was referenced on the show as UCSB (http://www.ucsb.edu/))
Reno 911! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370194/)
Reno 911!: Miami (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499554/)
Jackie Brown (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119396/) (film)
Gone in 60 Seconds (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0187078/) (1974 film)
Emergency! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068067/)
Evolution (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0251075/) (film)
Joe Dirt (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245686/)
Pros vs Joes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0497304/)
10 Items or Less (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499603/) (film)
The Cable Guy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115798/)
Certified Gangstas (http://www.singingfool.com/default.asp?frame=/musicvideo.asp%3FpublishedId%3D00926183) (2004) Music video from rapper, Jim Jones.
Colors (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094894/) (1988 film)

So, I really don't know whether any of this information might be useful, but who knows when it comes to Lost what might surface in the future...

Ok, I just looked at my HD recording, and while I cannot figure out the first word, the second one looks like lihui. In my opinion, the second letter is i and not a, but I may very well be wrong.

I did a search for that word, and it appears to be a town in Kauai. Can anyone verify?

If it is, I theorize, given Desmond's recent flashback, that Flight 815 was never really incredibly off course but instead went back in time as Desmond did and crashed on Kauai sometime after 1939 (remember Moonlight Serenade?).

Our Lostees are lost in time, and DHARMA has used the island to go back in time in an effort to change some of the values of the inputs to the Valenzetti Equation -- in essence, to change the future.

Yes, all this from that sheet of paper. :smile:

EDIT:

Also, while TPTB stated they would never do another Desmond-like flashback, I don't think they don't have to. This entire show is a Desmond-like flashback from the Lostees' perspective.

Thoughts?

Ok, I just looked at my HD recording, and while I cannot figure out the first word, the second one looks like lihui. In my opinion, the second letter is i and not a, but I may very well be wrong.

Thoughts?

I looked at it again (I think this is now the 20th time I've done so), and in my humble opinion it is an "a". Specificall, it is an "a" that is lower case with a very pronounced curvy liine over the top, as opposed to how some lower case "a"s appear as just a circle with a line along the right side.

huuum maybe the prop guys just took same papers they found lying around, and threw them there. Probably a political flyer of some kind. I mean, they are in Hawaii , after all.

huuum maybe the prop guys just took same papers they found lying around, and threw them there. Probably a political flyer of some kind. I mean, they are in Hawaii , after all.

If that is the case (which it very well might be), then I think that I'm pretty convinced that the paper is about an annual Hula Dance Festival held in Carson, California (see my lengthy postings on this further back in this thread). Even if it isn't just some stuff the prop guys threw in the van, I still think that this is what it is refering to: namely, the Hula Festival in Carson.

I looked at it again (I think this is now the 20th time I've done so), and in my humble opinion it is an "a". Specificall, it is an "a" that is lower case with a very pronounced curvy liine over the top, as opposed to how some lower case "a"s appear as just a circle with a line along the right side.
Does anyone familiar with the local language know if the character just described would be more likely than an i or a plain old a?

I looked at it again (I think this is now the 20th time I've done so), and in my humble opinion it is an "a". Specifically, it is an "a" that is lower case with a very pronounced curvy line over the top, as opposed to how some lower case "a"s appear as just a circle with a line along the right side.

Does anyone familiar with the local language know if the character just described would be more likely than an i or a plain old a?

No, no. :undecide: What I was trying to describe (and I'm not sure exactly how to do it) is not an "a" with a tilde above it, but the way that the "a" has the open-ended loop on top of it that's connected to the right side of the letter.

Okay, here's an example of what I mean (and I hope it displays properly on peoples' screens):

Here's the kind of lower case "a" that I think is on the paper in the word "Lahui":

"a"

And here's the other kind of lower case "a" that doesn't have that loop on the top of it:

"a"

I hope that the screen displays these so you can see what I'm talking about.

I lived in Hawaii for a couple of years on Oahu, and am somewhat familiar with the way things are spelled in the Hawaiian language (or, if you want to get technical, the Hawai`ian Language). But I don't remember those words that were on the paper.

Heck, they're probably chuckling at the fact that we're trying to decipher it. :grin:



I inverted, twisted, changed colors, etc etc and I could get nothing to help me read the letter. It seems to have been purposefully made so we couldn't read it. So I am going with the "props" angle. Kinda nutty to make it so visible. :confused: :frown:

D/

Some googling reveal that a Susan Osborne is the co-founder of Ho'oulu Lahui. This may be an actual real world letter used in Lost.

http://afphawaii.org/memberpage/memberpage-memberlist.htm

http://lilinote.k12.hi.us/STATE/BOE/Minutes.nsf/ebb43af14ca5cdb30a2565cb006622a8/fe07ff4431818acb0a256a11007b59ef?OpenDocument

Some googling reveal that a Susan Osborne is the co-founder of Ho'oulu Lahui. This may be an actual real world letter used in Lost.

http://afphawaii.org/memberpage/memberpage-memberlist.htm

http://lilinote.k12.hi.us/STATE/BOE/Minutes.nsf/ebb43af14ca5cdb30a2565cb006622a8/fe07ff4431818acb0a256a11007b59ef?OpenDocument

Hey, cool lead! Who is Susan Osborne? Does she have any connection to Lost?

Don't know who she is. It just says co-founder. The signature on the letter certainly could have the last name "Osborne". The "b" seems to be possible and it looks to end in an "e". The fact that she is a co-founder and her signature may be on a letter with "Ho'oulu Lahui" is to much of a coincidence. My guess is that this is the same "susan osborne". I doubt that there is an actual "lost" connection. But who knows? I'm certainly not going to call and ask her.
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Another thought is at the top above the logo there is a line that looks to be a fax info line. The square around the logo seems incomplete (only three sided). This may also be consistent with fax technology.

Would fax technology have any timeline problems with Rog and the Dharma I?

Don't know who she is. It just says co-founder. The signature on the letter certainly could have the last name "Osborne". The "b" seems to be possible and it looks to end in an "e". The fact that she is a co-founder and her signature may be on a letter with "Ho'oulu Lahui" is to much of a coincidence. My guess is that this is the same "susan osborne". I doubt that there is an actual "lost" connection. But who knows? I'm certainly not going to call and ask her.
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Another thought is at the top above the logo there is a line that looks to be a fax info line. The square around the logo seems incomplete (only three sided). This may also be consistent with fax technology.

Would fax technology have any timeline problems with Rog and the Dharma I?

Hey, I think you've got it! I have been doing some digging, and found out that Susan Osborne is currently the principal of a charter school in a very rural part of the Puna district of the Big Island. The charter school's name is the Kua'o Ka La Public Charter School (http://www.homepages.com/localpages/Hawaii/Schools/505804.htm). Now, what connects her to the name on the masthead of the paper, which is Ho'oulu Lahui (and this was already pointed out earlier), is the fact that before she became the principal of the charter school, she was the co-founder (and possible principal) of a school that apparently no longer exists but that was also located in the Puna area that was called "Ho'oulu Lahui (http://lilinote.k12.hi.us/STATE/BOE/Minutes.nsf/ebb43af14ca5cdb30a2565cb006622a8/fe07ff4431818acb0a256a11007b59ef?OpenDocument)". The new charter school Kua'o Ka La was created after the year 2001, and Ms. Osborne was serving on a group that was in charge of creating this new school. Once the new school Kua'o Ka La was created, it subsumed several other small schools in the area, including the Ho'oulu Lahui school, which then ceased to exist.

I took a very close look at the signature at the bottom of the paper, and I completely agree with you - it really does look like "Sharon Osborne", and then below it, I think it says "Principal". So this paper would have had to have been created BEFORE the year 2002, since that was the year that the Kua'o Ka La school was made and the Ho'oulu Lahui school was closed.

As far as it being a timeline problem being a fax transmission, I would have to say that in order for that to be the case it would have had to have been done prior to the early 1980s, when faxes became prevalent throughout businesses and school districts. The State of Hawaii has always been a big leader in telecommunication services throughout their schools, since the islands are so cut off from each other. So I would guess that the school that Ms. Osborne worked at probably would have received fax capability early on. So, from this we could deduce that the van crashed between say 1980 and 2002. How's that sound? Any problems anyone see here with the logic or the research?

Don't you think this is just a production issue. I don't see the connnection. Do you think the letter is really a part of the show and intetionally used.

Don't you think this is just a production issue. I don't see the connnection. Do you think the letter is really a part of the show and intetionally used.

Good question. My feeling is that since it contains information about a real person and a real school, that it probably was just some paper that the production/prop crew threw in the van. But then, here's the catch to that: if they were just throwing in any old paper lying around, why would the paper have been so old? It might be that someone was cleaning out their file cabinet of old unneeded papers and threw them into a recycling bin, and that's where the production/prop crew picked it out from. Or it could be that the production crew didn't want to deliberately have any papers from contemporary times, which would create a timeline flub. But on the other hand, perhaps it is there to give folks like us an approximate date as to when the van crashed.

You know, like so many other things in life, finding out about what this paper is actually creates more questions than it solves! LOL! What are your thoughts/theories about it?

I found this info from:
http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096412876



Also this:
http://www.huapala.org/Ko_Mai_Hoeueu.html



interesting.......hmmmmmm hawaii huh?.....Any thoughts?


I think it is interesting that this document references an organization that is interested in genetics. Given what we know about the others, it certainly sounds like genetic research is one of their main iterests.

I found this info from:
http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096412876
Also this:
http://www.huapala.org/Ko_Mai_Hoeueu.html
interesting.......hmmmmmm hawaii huh?.....Any thoughts?
I think it is interesting that this document references an organization that is interested in genetics. Given what we know about the others, it certainly sounds like genetic research is one of their main iterests.

Montcashel,

Thanks for re-posting Jetschick's letter. Somehow I had overlooked it before, but it substantiates and fills in a lot of the theory that has been put out here on this thread about where that piece of paper came from. The second reference is really not anything too important, other than the fact that it's telling us that the phrase "Ho`oulu Lahui" was the Hawaiian King Kalakaua's motto (a rather bizarre motto, given the nature of the poem that is quote, but what the hay...). At any rate, that is probably where the organization that is doing all this stuff that is mentioned in the first link got its name - from King Kalakaua's motto.

But that first reference is great! I had thought that Susan Osborne was a co-founder and possible principal of a school that was called Ho`oulu Lahui. She currently is a principal of the school that is mentioned in the first link: Kua oka La Public Charter, which is connected in a partnership with the Ho`oulu Lahui village.

If you look at the image taken from the screen shot here: Roger's Head (http://lost.cubit.net/pics/3x10/readingRoger.jpg)you'll see that the paper's masthead says Ho`oulu Lahui. Then, down at the bottom, you can make out the signature of Susan Osborne, whom we have shown was a co-founder (http://lilinote.k12.hi.us/STATE/BOE/...f?OpenDocument)of Ho`oulu Lahui, and is now a principal of the Kua oka La Public Charter School, which is mentioned in the above document (http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096412876). What we have done here in this thread is to link two separate, non-related documents that verify that Susan Osborne is connected the Ho`oulu Lahui village, and further, that it appears that her signature is at the bottom of that piece of paper lying next to Roger's skull in the van.

It is intriguing to me to further explore this whole business about the Ho`oulu Lahui village, which seems to be some sort of sustainable ecovillage community that offers instruction to people from around the world. Here's the quote from the first link noted above:

In Hawaii, Keikialoha Kekipi and Ho'oulu Lahui of Pahoa were honored. Ho'oulu Lahui, an educational nonprofit organization, preserves cultural traditions and practices of ancient Hawaiians. By embracing traditional concepts and merging them with the latest in technology, its goal is a sustainable community living in harmony with the environment.

The organization's 600-acre coastal land base includes an ancient Hawaiian village that serves as a cultural and environmental learning center. Ho'oulu Lahui's partnership with Kua oka La Public Charter school includes plans for the first totally driven solar school in the state of Hawaii.

''Ho'oulu Lahui is an exemplary environmental model for educational agencies,'' the EPA said. Among its activities, it partners with college students on forest management and hosts students, families and educators from across the world on its solar program and other environmental practices. (http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096412876)

This sort of ties in with some of the activities that the Others are doing on the Island.

As has been discussed, this presents an unusual problem, due to the fact that the Ho`oulu Lahui village is a real-life place, and Susan Osborne is a real live human being who has certain rights to privacy. What, then, is that letter doing in the van with her name on it? There are some possibilities out there, but perhaps this is something someone ought to put to one of the creators. In fact, since I'm typing this thing up, I'll go ahead and ask Gregg Nations about it, since he is usually very forthcoming about straightening out any glitches in property type things like this. I'll report what he says back to this thread if and when he responds to my query.

As has been discussed, this presents an unusual problem, due to the fact that the Ho`oulu Lahui village is a real-life place, and Susan Osborne is a real live human being who has certain rights to privacy. What, then, is that letter doing in the van with her name on it? There are some possibilities out there, but perhaps this is something someone ought to put to one of the creators. In fact, since I'm typing this thing up, I'll go ahead and ask Gregg Nations about it, since he is usually very forthcoming about straightening out any glitches in property type things like this. I'll report what he says back to this thread if and when he responds to my query.

As promised, I'm reporting back what I heard from Gregg Nations about this. Here is his response to my letter asking about the piece of paper by Roger's skull in the van:


Originally Posted by Gregg Nations http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/images/FuselageGreen/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=1415167#post1415167)
Really? I didn't realize that. Usually our crew is good about those types of things. The van was supposed to be messy, but I didn't think the paper meant anything. I'll have to check it out...

I just read your main thread in the TTID area. The paper wasn't meant to be an easter egg or anything like it. The van was just supposed to be messy. I'm surprised, too, that production allowed anything like that to be filmed clearly enough to read parts of it. I hope fans aren't really contacting this person.


So, as you can see, this is NOT ***REPEAT - NOT!!*** an Easter Egg that has anything at all to do with the plot.

It was a mistake that the paper would have had any actual information on it that could be read via screen caps. It's okay - these things in normal tv shows would not really have mattered, it's just that we Losties tend to minutely scrutinize everything, hence this unusual problem. Personally, I would pray that nobody would contact this person named on the paper, as I believe that would be a breach of privacy...

Good job, Saukkomies, for getting a response from Gregg. I'm too new to know how this works. Me thinks this thread be dead!

Good job, Saukkomies, for getting a response from Gregg. I'm too new to know how this works. Me thinks this thread be dead!

Thanks, but really this was something that was accomplished by a number of contributing members here on this thread, and I just happened to be one of them. I think it is awesome that we here - in this very thread - were the ones who figured out the whole business of the letter - what it said - and then went to TPTB and got a response. We should all give ourselves a pat on the back for helping to prevent what might have been an embarrasment to the Lost producuction crew if anyone would have tried to start stalking the person named on the paper in real life. Your contribution Cal was just as essential as anyone's in bringing this thread to its demise! High FIves all around! :)