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Karri 03-14-2007, 03:00 PM Didn't like the ep? Tell us why. :biggrin:
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johnnywishbone 03-15-2007, 12:08 AM guess i'll go ahead and break the ice in this thread
certainly didn't love it
didn't hate it either
best described as "meh" :shrug:
colin72 03-15-2007, 12:21 AM Ho hum. I've seen worse.
Jack's Daddy is Claire's Daddy? Shocker. Didn't see that one coming.
I didn't buy "ear-piercing goth Claire".
Des shoots the gun, scares the birds and so Claire confronts him and then goes off on Charlie? Calm down baby. What's the big deal? How about we just try and catch the birds again? You have nothing to do all day. Catch dozens of those birds instead of being useless on the beach.
When Claire does get a bird she writes the lamest note (which Charlie calls "perfect"). No mention of the bizarre island, no mention of the wierd murderous "others", no mention of Survivors real names or personal info for verification. Just one bird. Just one lame note. How bad do you really want to get off the island?
And did I miss something or did Sayid and Kate not question Locke very much about lying about the C4?
Instead of trekking off to rescue Jack with only Locke, Kate, Sayid and Danielle (who comes and goes as she pleases), how about starting that "army" now. How about coming up with a plan? Nah, that would make sense.
elektrobank 03-15-2007, 08:21 AM Average I thought.. back story bored me, bar the revelation Christian is Clair's old man..
too much of a tease for next week!
novagator 03-15-2007, 08:23 AM It was a boring episode save for locke et al. in the forest going over the fence
For the good of the show, please kill off Claire, she is the most annoying character on the show behind Charlie.
Semisan 03-15-2007, 10:42 AM Didn't like Claire's story at all, except for the amazing scene with her in her mom's room at the end. That was really touching. Otherwise, I was pissed that Christen was going to leave, but then to spite the sister, he insisted on staying AND telling Claire who he was.
Didn't like how he tried to get Claire to kill the mom. I know it was out of pity, but he didn't really do much to explain himself, or give her a better impression of him, and his reason for not coming around? Oh it was your aunt and your mom's fault, not mine, not the person who cheated and had a whole othe family no sir!
As for Claire's anger...I really got annoyed with her being so bitchy towards both Desmond and Charlie, and I thought Charlie could have definitely found different ways to not participate in Claire's idea without putting it down. But I did love how Claire found out and had to eat crow over Charlie's actions!
Locke...what is going on here? AGAIN, no one seriously stops and gets answers before moving on! Sayid tells Locke he has to do better than that, and then nothing!
They better explain it next episode, I can't take it if Sayid loses his ability to be the truth teller!
bryce110 03-15-2007, 10:42 AM I didn't hate this episode. I had a few complaints last night, but the one that is still hanging in the air, for me, is that Claire "refused" to find out Christian's name. :rolleyes: I was waiting for him to just blurt it out... but of course not.
I think we all expected Claire to be Christian's daughter for a while now. It was no surprise to me... and actually, I would have had it no other way. But I think it's totally lame that there will never be a time for Claire and Jack to form a familial bond, which I was looking forward to. I know they like connecting the characters to each other in superficial ways, but this isn't superficial. I just have to ask why they even bother to do things like this.
colin72 03-15-2007, 12:16 PM How much would it have cost to build that sophisticated fence on an island? So one one considered someone could just climb over?
If they're going to spend the money and go to all the trouble, why not have the same sensor that kills people at the top of the pole as there are on the sides?
Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
Malachy 03-15-2007, 12:48 PM Well, this episode definitely had "balance" to it -- I'll give it credit for that. I think if all episodes were structured this way you'd have a lot less alienated or frustrated fans.
First off the episode directly picked up the various plot lines from the immediately preceding episode (which right there is a huge improvement) and actually felt interconnected, which was nice. That helps give the sense of forward progression of the various plot lines and that each episode is (even if just incrementally) advancing the story.
Second, in terms of that "balance," yes you had the annoying filler flashback (Claire and Jack are related -- yay) so TPTB can stretch out the series that could have been completely excised. Yes, you had the annoying island "cutesy" stuff with Claire and Charlie (and Sun and Jin and Sawyer and the rest) to play to the viewers who like watching the characters interact with each other (and actually still care about the characters).
But you also had some nice island mythology stuff with Kate's mission to rescue Jack. Patchy gave a few nice tid bits of information (the sonar beacon to guide in submarines, the mysterious guy who ranks ahead of Ben) and the "sonar weapon" security fence was pretty visually cool even if it was ridiculously easy to overcome. It was sadly predictable that TPTB killed Patchy before he could give out too much information, but it's not like that's anything new, so it's pretty easy to dismiss.
I'd like to see if the show can maintain this kind of tone on a consistent basis. If anything, it should give TPTB a pretty clear signal that it's not that hard to please your disgruntled audience -- just give us a little something each episode with the idea that each episode moves things along. That's all we ask. :)
MadWatch 03-15-2007, 01:14 PM *sigh* This show is becoming so mediocre and collapsing under its own weight. Every darn episode I wish some main character would ask questions when the opportunity arose:
When Kate asked Danielle, "Can I ask you something?" I was said aloud, "PLEASE, have Kate ask, 'How could you be on this island for 16 years and not KNOW any of the stuff that is happening??!!'" Needless to say, Kate did not ask that :(
I am sick of Claire and her whiney-ness. Good lord, she has been reduced to a whiney brat. First, she's friends with Charlie. Then she doesnt trust Charlie and demands he stay away from Aaron. Then they are friends again. Then she thinks Charlie is crazy and demands he stay away from Aaron. Then, they are friends again. Then Claire thinks that Charlie is conspiring something and. .... . demands that he stay away from Aaron. Yeesh! Enough already. She chastises Charlie for not wanting to continue with thier picnic, yet SHE was the one that wanted to stop the picnic and go bird hunting! I used to think that Claire was a strong-willed character, now she just seems annoying (on a side note, I think she looks hot as a brunette :) )
More inconsistancy. The Dharma island uses antique equipment and computers, yet has technology beyond what the civilized world has (smoke monster, sonic frontier).
Now we find out that Claire had a "bad" father as well. Oh boy. More negative male stereotyping. Yay.
How the heck can Danielle spend 16 years on Mystery Island and NOT encounter any of this stuff??!! Refer back to Season one when we first met her character. She basically describes an island that is devoid of anything and the only encounters she has with anyone else are the "whispers". (Speaking of which, werent the "whisper" rather poignant in Season One? When was the last time we heard them?) I am not even pointing out Danielle's inconsistancy for plot points, but why havent the "main" characters noticed this about her?
I also find it funny how the characters made a "bridge" that goes over the sonic fence pylons, which is essentially *one-way*. What happens if they met a charging T-Rex on the other side of the field and had to run back to the frontier?
Overall, the episode was "meh": More reinforcement that the writers had no idea how the story was going to evolve when they wrote things for season 1 and 2 (and are not doing much better now). More annoying characters.
James25 03-15-2007, 02:50 PM I used to think that Claire was a strong-willed character, now she just seems annoying (on a side note, I think she looks hot as a brunette :) )
It's interesting that we have almost the opposite stance here; I couldn't stand her in Season One but am more tolerable now -- especially since she's taken a step toward actually getting them off the island while I see the rest just lying around, or building everything besides something that can float on water. I also definitely prefer Emilie blonde.
I have to agree that all the back-and-forth Charlie banter has gotten annoying, but it hopefully reached its end last night.
How the heck can Danielle spend 16 years on Mystery Island and NOT encounter any of this stuff??!!
If I recall correctly, they answered this last episode when she explained that she purposely avoids it to stay alive. (This isn't an argument on my part in regards to logic one way or another).
(Speaking of which, werent the "whisper" rather poignant in Season One? When was the last time we heard them?)
From a writing standpoint, I figure they're less prevalent because the veil of mystery surrounding the Others has been partly lifted now.
I am not even pointing out Danielle's inconsistancy for plot points
I keep wondering when Sayid is going to point out that she told him she had a son.
sandleford 03-15-2007, 03:46 PM The "eh": Claire's flashback. It was an interesting twist to have Jack and Claire with the same father, but ultimately it will be another pointless fate-based "connection," unless it is otherwise tied to the actually mythology of the Others/Dharma/Hostiles. Other questionable stuff, Christian Sheppard conveniently never introduces himself? Really? Not even a fake name. Too convenient. Also the time line of the flashback seemed confusing. How old was Claire when this was all taking place? When does Christian fly down to Australia to "demand" to see her? Presumably right before she gets on the plane. That flashback in "Two for the Road" implied that she was living with her aunt, but wasn't she living with her boyfriend in an apartment and then visit the psychic?:undecide:
The "bad": The letter strapped to the bird. Beyond cheesy and overly poetic. When you're writing an S.O.S. wouldn't you want to keep it simple and direct? No mention of the fact that there's something in the jungle killing people or a weird cult like society that kidnaps children, yeah it was "perfect" Charlie.
The "ugly": John Locke, again. I was encouraged to at least find out that he's not a complete moron when I saw the C4 in his bag, but it doesn't make that "stall" tactic any less easy to swallow. Why Sayid didn't question him any further is another equally confusing bit, especially after he brazenly shoved Bakunin into the electric fence. It feels like were back in the same spot in season one when Locke left Boone for dead with Jack. He's on a mission and he can't be bothered to explain it to anyone. Why not just have him confess? "I don't want to leave this place guys. I can walk again. I'm not the emotionally crippled person I used to be and I want to find out why?" It would make for a great dramatic monologue and I think it's time in the show that the rest of the survivors knew a little more about their supposed "hunter."
Overall though, I do agree, the pace of the episode was solid. There were the routinely clumsy Lost "shut that character up" moments but I've come to expect them at least. It will indeed be interesting to see if we can get three whole episodes in a row that keep the plot moving in a forward direction.
colin72 03-15-2007, 04:09 PM The "bad": The letter strapped to the bird. Beyond cheesy and overly poetic. When you're writing an S.O.S. wouldn't you want to keep it simple and direct? No mention of the fact that there's something in the jungle killing people or a weird cult like society that kidnaps children, yeah it was "perfect" Charlie.
I agree. I would have given some details about the situation. Of course, from how they behave you would never know they were in a life and death situation on a bizarre island with a monster and strange people in the jungle... but it does seem important.
And if you're going to give some kind of details about the bizarre situation you need to provide some personal details (name, social sercurity number, family members, phone numbers, etc) to have credibility and prove you are who you say you are.
And as others have pointed out, how about doing something to waterproof the note. Slip it into a Dharma zip lock bag or wrap it in Dharma cling film.
The "ugly": John Locke, again. I was encouraged to at least find out that he's not a complete moron when I saw the C4 in his bag, but it doesn't make that "stall" tactic any less easy to swallow. Why Sayid didn't question him any further is another equally confusing bit, especially after he brazenly shoved Bakunin into the electric fence.
I actually missed the first minute after the commercial so I wasn't sure if Sayid and Kate made any effort to question Locke further. So I'm assuming they didn't? He just lied about the C4 and they let it go?
These things make the characters look embarrasingly stupid. I realize they are much easier to overlook when the episode moves along and things actually happen but this ongoing pattern of stupidly is distracting. The great interrogator Sayid can't manage to question Locke? The same guy who noticed the stirrups on a horse were for someone shorter than Bakunin, let's this little mystery pass by?
Once again, the characters aren't consistant and don't behave like real people. They are just puppets who are dumb when TPTB need them to be dumb and smart when they need them to be smart.
LostKlone 03-15-2007, 04:18 PM How old was Claire when this was all taking place? When does Christian fly down to Australia to "demand" to see her? Presumably right before she gets on the plane. That flashback in "Two for the Road" implied that she was living with her aunt, but wasn't she living with her boyfriend in an apartment and then visit the psychic?:undecide:
I was kinda confused by this too when I was watching the episode, but the way I pieced it together was this...chronologically...Claire & Mom in car accident -> Christian Sheppherd comes to town -> Over (possibly up-to) a couple years Claire loses the goth look, moves in with her boyfriend, gets pregnant -> Claire and boyfriend begin to have problems/break-up -> Claire goes to see psychic -> Christian Sheppherd comes to visit w/ Ana Lucia and Aunt Lindsay won't tell him where Claire is living -> Ana Lucia, Jack, Sawyer, the rest of the eventual survivors (actually, Christian too now that I think about it) and Claire all get on the doomed flight 815 to go back to the U.S. and crash on "The Island".
The "bad": The letter strapped to the bird. Beyond cheesy and overly poetic. When you're writing an S.O.S. wouldn't you want to keep it simple and direct? No mention of the fact that there's something in the jungle killing people or a weird cult like society that kidnaps children, yeah it was "perfect" Charlie.
LOL...couldn't have said it better myself. I think Charlie should've been more like, "Uh, why don't we at least mention that we're all in great peril, and instead of 'Don't give up on us.' we should write 'HELP! NOW!" Might've even been worth mentioning the Hatch Explosion, as it would've no doubt been visible to any number of satellites that orbit Earth.
annieone 03-15-2007, 04:25 PM Yes, of course, there are two different times in claire's flashbacks. So not only did Christian go at least twice to Australia, but he appears to do it more or less often. No problem there. The change in looks is supposed to show how she "matures".
As for Danielle, it is clear that she knows much more than she is showing. She effectivelly interrupts Patchy when he was abut to break Locke's secret and was probably the one who untied patchy in the previous episode..
Jomama 03-15-2007, 04:43 PM I basically liked the episode but there are two things that are really bugging me. The first is Danielle saying she doesn't want to know about her daughter but yet she stole Aaron in order to trade him for her daughter. Totally inconsistent. The other thing is that in the 1st season Claire says something about her mother being angry if she found out she was pregnant and her boyfriend says something to the effect of she's already abandoned you anyway. This must be a continuity error because they didn't talk like she was in a coma then.:rolleyes:
And as others have pointed out, how about doing something to waterproof the note. Slip it into a Dharma zip lock bag or wrap it in Dharma cling film.
I thought the same thing. That note is not going to make it very far.
bryce110 03-15-2007, 05:50 PM See, I knew there was something I forgot. I probably just blocked it out. Worst SOS letter EVER! While it was being read, I was just shocked at how horrible it was. I mean, it made the last scene kind of sweet, but.... not a good SOS letter, guys!!! Also, the non water proofing bugged me, as well as not doing a better job making sure the paper would remain secure. Claire should have saved that excerpt for her diary.
FREDTAYLOR 03-15-2007, 09:20 PM The SOS letter sounded like the epilogue of a book that a survivor might write. NOT a "help, come get me" letter. Plus the previously mentioned method of attachment to said bird was simply dumb.
Claire's black hair was over the top bad. Jack had stupid hair in some of his flashbacks as well. Ditto, Locke. Hopefully next week we won't see Locke in a mullet...
Pretty bad episode IMO
colin72 03-15-2007, 09:28 PM Claire's note was lame. They should have provided some kind of personal info to verify they were who they claimed to be. For example, they could have gone with something as simple as:
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HELP! 40 Survivors Oceanic Flight 815 crashed 11/22/04 alive on island
Claire Littleton b. x/x/82 ss# 123456789 Aunt- Lindsey ph# 123-456-7890
Charlie Pace b. x/x/75 ss# 987654321 Brother- Liam ph# 098-765-4321
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I can write the above on a 1 1/2" x 2 1/2" piece of paper and roll it up so it's tiny (yeah, I actually tried). Obviously they could write much more if they wanted.
If they gave personal info that verified who they were, they would have had credibility and could have done on to say something about the wierd island and Dharma. They could mention DeGroot or Hanso. In fact, why not include a label from something that has the Dharma logo on it? Or how about writing the note on the back of a label?
Regardless, they could have wrote a much better note (and waterproofed it!). Also, I would have caught every bird I could and sent many notes. What else do they have to do all day?
It gets old to see these people constantly do things poorly, or worse, not do common sense things at all. It makes it very hard to care about them and their situation.
sandleford 03-15-2007, 09:53 PM The SOS letter sounded like the epilogue of a book that a survivor might write. NOT a "help, come get me" letter. Plus the previously mentioned method of attachment to said bird was simply dumb.
Bingo.
Claire's note was lame. They should have provided some kind of personal info to verify they were who they claimed to be. For example, they could have gone with something as simple as:
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HELP! 40 Survivors Oceanic Flight 815 crashed 11/22/04 alive on island
Claire Littleton b. x/x/82 ss# 123456789 Aunt- Lindsey ph# 123-456-7890
Charlie Pace b. x/x/75 ss# 987654321 Brother- Liam ph# 098-765-4321
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I can write the above on a 1 1/2" x 2 1/2" piece of paper and roll it up so it's tiny (yeah, I actually tried). Obviously they could write much more if they wanted.
If they gave personal info that verified who they were, they would have had credibility and could have done on to say something about the wierd island and Dharma. They could mention DeGroot or Hanso. In fact, why not include a label from something that has the Dharma logo on it? Or how about writing the note on the back of a label?
Regardless, they could have wrote a much better note (and waterproofed it!). Also, I would have caught every bird I could and sent many notes. What else do they have to do all day?
It gets old to see these people constantly do things poorly, or worse, not do common sense things at all. It makes it very hard to care about them and their situation.
So, true. But don't we have to give her an "A" for effort?;)
My other qualm with the episode and more specifically with Claire is why she so readily accepted "everything" that Desmond told her. Given her previous history with psychics, wouldn't she show a little more interest in a guy who can actually predict the future? She went back to Charlie with a pretty calm, fatalistic attitude. Their last two scenes together basically can be summarized in this Lifetime network bit of dialogue:
"Oh sweety, Desmond explained everything about you and 'your situation.' You, me and Aaron are gonna get through this as a family, okay.":rolleyes:
Don't get me wrong, I actually think they are the most believable "couple" on the whole show but please dial down the schmaltz. Everything isn't going to be okay, Claire. Charlie doesn't have a broken leg or flu symptoms. The "future seeing" guy that got you that bird is pretty damn sure that Charlie isn't long for this world (now in versions 6 and 7 of the matrix, he may have a better shot).;) :biggrin:
So how about, in the next episode, all the beach people get together and start having a discussion with the crazy bearded guy who can see the future. You can even sit Charlie right next to Desmond so if he gets another "flash of the future" he doesn't have to move very much at all.
colin72 03-15-2007, 10:12 PM Bingo.
So, true. But don't we have to give her an "A" for effort?;)
Yeah, Little Claire gets a gold star. She's smart enough to come up with the bird/note idea, yet too dumb to write a decent note and waterproof it.
My other qualm with the episode and more specifically with Claire is why she so readily accepted "everything" that Desmond told her. Given her previous history with psychics, wouldn't she show a little more interest in a guy who can actually predict the future?
Great point.
So how about, in the next episode, all the beach people get together and start having a discussion with the crazy bearded guy who can see the future. You can even sit Charlie right next to Desmond so if he gets another "flash of the future" he doesn't have to move very much at all.
That will never happen because it would be the rational thing to do.
Daphne 03-16-2007, 02:28 AM Boring episode. The only part worth watching was the very end.
That Claire is Jack's half sister was obvious, it's been obvious since Ana Lucía's centric episode past season. She's always been annoying to me and this supposed insight on her backstory hasn't changed that. In fact, her current almost childish ways -especially towards Charlie- make them even more annoying than before.
The "rescue note" was the lamest thing ever. So overly dramatic and cheesy.
Another week, another disappointment :(
Boring episode, the part of Claire being Jack's half sister, how predictable. :huh: It took me 2 days to watch it all. and after 2 days I was totally bored. Jack playing football with what's his name, are we supposed to believe that Jack was always a part of the other's group, or has adapted to being an other? I don't think I can continue to watch or even tape it.
colin72 03-16-2007, 06:30 PM Boring episode, the part of Claire being Jack's half sister, how predictable. :huh: It took me 2 days to watch it all. and after 2 days I was totally bored. Jack playing football with what's his name, are we supposed to believe that Jack was always a part of the other's group, or has adapted to being an other? I don't think I can continue to watch or even tape it.
I wasn't shocked or awed by the final scene with Jack and Tom throwing the football. I don't really understand how it's going to make sense considering Jack has only been there a couple days. If Jack's plan is to pretend to get along with them, he's moving way too fast and I don't see how they wouldn't see through it.
bryce110 03-16-2007, 07:28 PM Regarding the "reveal" that Christian is Claire's father, I'm not sure it was supposed to be a real big secret. I mean, to me, I would have felt duped if it turned out to NOT be Christian, you know? The thing that ended up irking me was the totally lame and contrived "I don't even know your name" bit. Just awful.
Regarding Jack playing football, I'm not sure what I think about that. To be honest, I kind of doubt that he's brainwashed OR trying to play the Others. Part of me thinks Jack just plain old doesn't care to be released. I mean, how many times have we seen Jack get out of his cage or be able to wander around at his leisure? Other than the ONE TIME he tried to open the door to the ocean, he has shown NO desire to escape, which is why this scene wasn't as intriguing as it should or could have been for me.
desmondslosthairstraighteners 03-16-2007, 10:48 PM I actually missed the first minute after the commercial so I wasn't sure if Sayid and Kate made any effort to question Locke further. So I'm assuming they didn't? He just lied about the C4 and they let it go?
These things make the characters look embarrasingly stupid. I realize they are much easier to overlook when the episode moves along and things actually happen but this ongoing pattern of stupidly is distracting. The great interrogator Sayid can't manage to question Locke? The same guy who noticed the stirrups on a horse were for someone shorter than Bakunin, let's this little mystery pass by?
Once again, the characters aren't consistant and don't behave like real people. They are just puppets who are dumb when TPTB need them to be dumb and smart when they need them to be smart.
Not trying to bait here but you shouldn't assume he didn't question him just because you missed the minute where they discussed it, granted it was brief, but here's (i can't remember the exact lines), what he basically said:
Sayid: I thought you didn't know about the c4
Locke: I stand corrected
Sayid: Why did you take it?
Locke: You'll never know when you'll need some more c4
Sayid: (looks at Locke with a disgusted expression) You'll have to do better than that John.
Sayid: We'll talk about this later
So it wasn't an EXACT quote but that's basically what was said, you criticised Sayid for being unable to question Locke but he knew Locke was lying from that second last line, and we can gather from the last line that Sayid isn't done with Locke but stopped the questions for the moment because there were more important matters to attend to (getting past the barrier, saving Jack). I think the scene you want to see, where Sayid questions Locke about this whole predicament will be sometime in the near future (maybe next episode). I can guarantee you Sayid is still as smart as ever lol.
Thanks.
colin72 03-16-2007, 11:25 PM Not trying to bait here but you shouldn't assume he didn't question him just because you missed the minute where they discussed it, granted it was brief, but here's (i can't remember the exact lines), what he basically said:
Sayid: I thought you didn't know about the c4
Locke: I stand corrected
Sayid: Why did you take it?
Locke: You'll never know when you'll need some more c4
Sayid: (looks at Locke with a disgusted expression) You'll have to do better than that John.
Sayid: We'll talk about this later
So it wasn't an EXACT quote but that's basically what was said, you criticised Sayid for being unable to question Locke but he knew Locke was lying from that second last line, and we can gather from the last line that Sayid isn't done with Locke but stopped the questions for the moment because there were more important matters to attend to (getting past the barrier, saving Jack). I think the scene you want to see, where Sayid questions Locke about this whole predicament will be sometime in the near future (maybe next episode). I can guarantee you Sayid is still as smart as ever lol.
Thanks.
Don't worry I realize you aren't baiting.
Yeah, I heard the exchange of dialogue you summarized. That happened before the commerical. When they went to a commercial, I went to the kitchen to get a drink and missed less than a minute when Lost started again. It's after the commerical that I thought I may have missed something. I see now that I actually didn't miss anything.
I really don't see why Sayid and Kate would wait until later to question Locke. How long could it possibly take for him to explain why he lied? A few minutes? How about explaining it while they anchored the tree and propped it over the pole? It's ridiculous that Locke oddly evades the question (typical Lost), and then an important subject is just dropped (typical Lost) when it could be taken care of quickly or at the same time as other things are going on.
Anyway, thanks for trying to help.
andy_candy 03-17-2007, 11:14 AM I also find it funny how the characters made a "bridge" that goes over the sonic fence pylons, which is essentially *one-way*. What happens if they met a charging T-Rex on the other side of the field and had to run back to the frontier?
That absolutely cracked me up! :biggrin:
Overall, the episode was "meh": More reinforcement that the writers had no idea how the story was going to evolve when they wrote things for season 1 and 2 (and are not doing much better now). More annoying characters.
Yea, I wondered many times now, how much (& I mean HOW MUCH) are they making up as they go!
I wasn't shocked or awed by the final scene with Jack and Tom throwing the football. I don't really understand how it's going to make sense considering Jack has only been there a couple days. If Jack's plan is to pretend to get along with them, he's moving way too fast and I don't see how they wouldn't see through it.
I wasn't shocked either. As you said I wasn't shocked by Jack playing football with that guy Tom. I don't know how they are going to make sense of painting themselves into a corner with the explanation as to why Jack doesn't seem to not want to care about the situation he is in unless of course that this is what he wants, or in other words he is where he wants to be. but why??? :confused: Therein lies my frustration with this show, too many questions and not enough explanations.
Kate, Sayid Locke and Danielle climbing over the tree I thought was really lame.
Idemandashrubbery 03-17-2007, 04:49 PM Kate, Sayid Locke and Danielle climbing over the tree I thought was really lame.
Y'know, for a military organisation, you'd think if they would go through the trouble of putting up such a whole friggin' system on a deserted island perimeter, they MIGHT actually want to make sure to have a plan B handy in case, you know, someone wants to go OVER it (or under for that matter). Because our bunch of brainless beachbusters managed to do it, what did they expect at any serious, military assault, they'd all charge in?
Oh, and, just to note, but as usual, the camerawork on this one was plain awful, as is more and more the case. Take a look at the final scene with Jack and just focus on camerawork, not acting (which in and of itself from Fox and the guy playing Tom is also hilariously bad, TBH)
BorderBobNY 03-17-2007, 07:36 PM Originally Posted by MadWatch http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/images/FuselageGreen/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=1431212#post1431212)
I also find it funny how the characters made a "bridge" that goes over the sonic fence pylons, which is essentially *one-way*. What happens if they met a charging T-Rex on the other side of the field and had to run back to the frontier?
Funny you mentioned a charging T-Rex. I couldn't help but observe that the line of pylons looked suspiciously like the old fence posts for Jurassic Park, which was likely filmed in the same area of Hawaii.
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