Karri
04-11-2007, 03:00 PM
What did you think? Rate it and then discuss the good and the bad. :)
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View Full Version : Rate and Debate!!! Karri 04-11-2007, 03:00 PM What did you think? Rate it and then discuss the good and the bad. :) cylune 04-11-2007, 10:09 PM Gave it a 9. Great episode again! Lots of answers but I wanted more! more! I'm glad they're not trying to make us believe the Others are good people... I was a little afraid after Juliet said they kidnap Claire to save her life. Lies!!! They made her sick. I really wonder why they need a spy on the Losties camp. They really goes to a lot of trouble to do that... :confused: But nice to see the ensemble again and almost everyone had a part in this. Loved the sweet C/C moments. And I even smiled during the skate reunion. :rolleyes: Kate731 04-11-2007, 10:20 PM I gave this one a 10. I don't think it gets much better than this. I can't recall ever having so many answers in one episode. Excellent episode. Sarah Mai 04-11-2007, 10:26 PM Amazing episode! And not just because of the reveals. I love having the whole cast together again. I hope it stays that way! Loved the relationships between the characters! Charlie/Claire, Kate/Sawyer, Juliet, Sayid and Sawyer, Sun and Jin, everyone! Great flashbacks too :biggrin: Mikhail never has his walkie on! dm 04-11-2007, 10:30 PM excellent episode. loved how they made it so that you werent sure of juliet's motivation. even after the ending, im still not sure what she's up to. so awesome! SithLordDarth 04-11-2007, 11:08 PM This is one of the best Lost episodes in a long time. Naturally I gave it a 10. whispervixen 04-11-2007, 11:41 PM Fantastic, loved it!! I gave it a 9. ZoeWashburne 04-12-2007, 12:06 AM Loved it - 10! The ending was classic Lost. I love that Juliet's character is so grey and ambiguous. Great job by Elizabeth Mitchell and Michael Emerson. care_n_jim 04-12-2007, 12:07 AM Loved it - I am so upset and angry that Juliet and Ben are so manipulating and evil! Great acting! Great writing - I just wish I didn't have to wait a week to see what happens next! jennylee27 04-12-2007, 12:10 AM I loved it so much, I have nothing more to say. :smile: wolffootball37 04-12-2007, 12:14 AM Awsome as usuial!!! Just a great episode on all fronts. ive really had nothing to complain about with any of the episodes since hiatus!!! ame en peine 04-12-2007, 12:14 AM Gave it a 9 because it was so fine... Answered tons of questions.. The camp is back together, so it had a homecoming feel.. Great writing - nice twists - awesome episode! GettinLost 04-12-2007, 12:26 AM Gave it a 7... Yes, lots of questions answered... Lots of questions RAISED! :biggrin: It was good to see all our Losties back together. But the "double-crossing" is driving me nuts! "Button, button, whose got the button..."? timdorr 04-12-2007, 12:28 AM Quite easily the best episode of the season. Juliet's flashback was great. The storyline was twisty and turny in all the right ways. I was genuinely shocked when it turned out Juliet was a plant. But the story had me convinced that she was for real. Excellent writing on this one. Goddard and Cuse definitely put together a great episode here. Kell 04-12-2007, 12:28 AM Great. Lots of twists and reveals. sickotriz 04-12-2007, 12:32 AM I had to give this episode a 10. They did everything right. Who said the Others are boring? HAH. This episode had me on the edge of my seat. Answers, questions raised... everything I want in a Lost episode. Continuity p0rn at its finest! My head is buzzing with theories right now. Melikon 04-12-2007, 12:34 AM The reveal at the end was well done. wedestroymyths 04-12-2007, 12:37 AM a very nicely done episode, for the most part. Drew Goddard is quickly making a name for himself at Lost...while I've liked a lot of season 3, his episodes have an extra littlte glimmer of life to them...but yes, there were tons of answers, and I feel like tonight is a giant step towards giving us the much needed context of who/what the others are... ...we now know what ails them, and what they were trying to do to fix it, let's hope we keep going at this rate to the end of the season and the apocalypse or armageddon or whatever it is the ABC promo department called it. anyway...the only thing I wasn't crazy about was the pacing...at times the eppy felt a bit more rushed, like they had to clip some more transitional things...overall, I enjoyed it much. jasoncountdown 04-12-2007, 12:38 AM 10. Pretty easily the best episode of the season, and thats saying a lot after TMFT and FBYE. ortiz34 04-12-2007, 12:40 AM Now thats the way to end an episode !!!!! Great stuff Steve L 04-12-2007, 12:43 AM Wow, finally some answers. Now I Hope the people who were against us getting more answers can understand we can have a great episode with answers and without giving the whole plot away. I knew Jack was too gullible to be the leader, I said in last weeks ep dicussion that she was a plant and Id have left her to fend for herself in the jungle. Sayid needs to be a little more active with her. Claudia815 04-12-2007, 12:45 AM I'll have to rate tomorrow when I have a chance to rewatch it (seriously... this 10 PM timeslot isn't working, guys), but I have to say eversince SIASL I was afraid they'd make Juliet a poor conflicted victim. So that's a relief because Psycho Juliet along with Psycho Locke have been the gems of the show since it returned in February. The two moments of the night imo were Juliet OWNING both Sayid and Sawyer and most importantly, Ben's face in the kitchen when she's practically within an inch of kicking his ***. I've never seen him so shocked/scared and I didn't expect to either. lostnthesoutheast 04-12-2007, 12:46 AM I gave it a 10! It was an altogether awesome episode!!! The only thing wrong with it was that it ended way too quickly! ;) Juliet is the best thing that has happened to Lost since Mr. Eko. Infact her presence may even more than make up for his loss. Tigerlily1647 04-12-2007, 12:53 AM Throughly enjoyed the episode! Even the pessimist in me has only one complaint (Charlie's reaction, or lack of it, to Juliette's arrival) and it's minor so I'll get over it. Loved the twist, even though I never trusted that girl for a second, and gave it overall a 9 <----which is a big deal. I even smiled for a second at Kate and Sawyer :eek2: then it kept going and I got annoyed. Overall very very good!! LostLaura 04-12-2007, 01:03 AM Really, really great episode. Zero complaints. A 10. Finally! Yay! Revo 04-12-2007, 01:05 AM 9. S3 has officially beat S1 and S2 in my liking. Mads13 04-12-2007, 01:14 AM Wow. Great all around episode. Loved Juliet's flashbacks, nice to see a solid connection between the island and the outside world. We finally know there's still an invested interest in this island, whether they're Dharma or not. Nice to see everyone back at camp. Though I'm getting a little suspicious of Jack. And, the best two lines: Ben yelling..."MIKHAIL, IT"S BEN. AND I'M WITH JULIET"...lowers voice....."So don't...shoot us" And Ethan: "Uh, you probably shouldn't have drunk it that fast." :biggrin: TK 421 04-12-2007, 01:22 AM 10, WOW. My head is spinning, so many answers and so much food for thought. Save The Humans 04-12-2007, 01:40 AM 9. Because it was a fine eppy, but The Pilot and Exodus are the only 10s in my book. It'd take quite the eppy to tie with them! Wish we had .5s in this poll. It'd have gotten a 9.5, then. God's tom 04-12-2007, 01:48 AM 10! This is the kind of episode that makes Lost the greatest show on TV! :jump1: Dezdemona 04-12-2007, 01:51 AM Awesome episode, a solid 10 from me. * Juliet/EM was riveting. She's all about getting home and the Losties have nothing to offer her toward that goal, so she's in Ben's pocket entirely. I think. I love intelligent characters and EM doesn't leave any doubt that Juliet is a very smart cookie indeed. * "Charlie got upset. He's buried over there." They should let Hurley deliver all threats henceforth. * Sawyer/Jack handshake and man hug. Well done, boys. Just the right amounts of sincere and awkward between them. * Kate/Sawyer - gorgeous, heart-melting hug. Awwwww. More please! * Sawyer and Sayid on the same page? More of that too, please! * Sawyer, Sayid and Juliet face-off. Wow. I wouldn't have been surprised if the boys had icicles dripping off their brows when she was done with them. But look out, Juliet - they won't underestimate her next time. * Juliet's "Phew! Did I just get away with that?" look as she walked away from Sawyer and Sayid. * Ben... twisty, evil, but all in a deliciously intriguing way. "Bug-eyed Illegitimate fandango" Hee! * Jack - so sure of himself, and sooooo wrong. Pride goeth... and all that. Kudos to both Carlton and Drew for a tight, well-crafted script chock full of answers and goodies. The episode did an excellent job of referencing past episodes and pulling all the threads together seamlessly. Nobody can do that better than Drew - it's one of his gifts, and always much appreciated. Kudos to the film editors who put all that old/new footage together so seamlessly. They had a LOT of work to do in this episode and did a flawless job. Kudos to all the actors for some great performances. Standing ovation to EM for doing a superb job in her episode. Special mention to Evi and Josh who did a lovely job with that reunion scene. :inlove: and who continue to be two of the most watchable actors on t.v., separately and together. Sayid is made of awesome, go Naveen! Lovely work by Emilie and Dom, as welll as Jorge, Yunjin, Daniel, and HIC. Great to see the whole group together, and everybody just plain rocked tonight. Everybody. :biggrin: cutennisace 04-12-2007, 01:54 AM What an episode, amazing acting between Juliet and Ben. One of the best episodes in all of Lost. 10 lost168 04-12-2007, 03:02 AM Elizabeth Mitchell's performance is Emmy-worthy. Awesome episode. Can't get any better than that! 10! LostIslandBaby 04-12-2007, 03:03 AM I gave it an 8. Basically, it was a great episode, but there were some dull moments here and there. But great, nonetheless. vangelicmonk 04-12-2007, 03:09 AM I gave it a 9. Good stuff. I almost gave it a 10, but that is rare for me. But Lost has hit it before. Best show on television still. QueenLizzie13 04-12-2007, 03:11 AM I gave this episode a 9 because for me TMFT was better. But not by much. It was very close. I loved the episode. It was so good. Omg. Season three is getting more and more amazing every episode. <3. char 04-12-2007, 03:18 AM I gave this episode a 9 because for me TMFT was better. But not by much. It was very close. I loved the episode. It was so good. Omg. Season three is getting more and more amazing every episode. <3. That's exactly why I gave it a 9! Amazing episode. I'm gonna feel bad for Jack when he finds out his mistake. And I just love to hate Juliet. Great job everyone, I just love that they're all together again:) mugglecastlover31 04-12-2007, 03:22 AM That was nothing short of heaven on TV. I can't even describe it. AMAZING acting from Elizabeth Mitchell and Michael Emerson. I really don't like Juliet or Ben now. Even though Juliet might be good, she's just so...manipulative. It's horrible. And poor Jack! He's such a sweetheart and truly a good person and he's wrong about her! It's almost like the good people are punished for being good...Oh well, 10 from me :) QueenLizzie13 04-12-2007, 04:05 AM Yeah and another reason why I only gave this episode a 9. They made Jack seem too guillible and to me that wouldn't be the case. First off he wasn't with the others for very long in real time. It was a lot of episodes sure. But I don't think it was long enough for Jack to completely trust them. Sure he probably was open to trusting Juliet because she helped Kate and Sawyer to escape. His judgment is being clouded, yes. But I think the writers are making Jack seem way too gullible for me to believe. But other then that, this episode rocked and I agree that EM deserves an emmy for that performance. Mind blowing. And I like how they connected Juliet's flashbacks with her first one. That was good. gigil115 04-12-2007, 04:08 AM :) Almost loved it, gave a 9. :confused: Bothered me how quickly Sayid & Saywer caved in to her. Why didn't they ask how she knew all about their past? Wouldn't most people, seems like the logical reaction to her verbal lashing of them. They folded too easy when they gave her the case. I get tired of them always losing the mind games & manipulation to the Others. johnnywishbone 04-12-2007, 04:16 AM I gave it an 8 good episode, entertaining and very well written and acted Both Ben and Juliet are great characters Passport 04-12-2007, 04:37 AM I still have faith in Juliet, she is going to turn out to be on the Losties side! 10/10 - Utterly fantastical! Ovation 04-12-2007, 04:55 AM Awesome episode, a solid 10 from me. * Juliet/EM was riveting. She's all about getting home and the Losties have nothing to offer her toward that goal, so she's in Ben's pocket entirely. I think. I love intelligent characters and EM doesn't leave any doubt that Juliet is a very smart cookie indeed. * "Charlie got upset. He's buried over there." They should let Hurley deliver all threats henceforth. * Kate/Sawyer - gorgeous, heart-melting hug. Awwwww. More please! * Sawyer and Sayid on the same page? More of that too, please! * Sawyer, Sayid and Juliet face-off. Wow. I wouldn't have been surprised if the boys had icicles dripping off their brows when she was done with them. But look out Juliet, they won't underestimate her next time. * Juliet's "Phew! Did I just get away with that?" look as she walked away from Sawyer and Sayid. * Ben... twisty, evil, but all in a deliciously intriguing way. "Bug-eyed Illegitimate fandango" Hee! * Jack... so sure of himself, and sooooo wrong. Kudos to both Carlton and Drew for a tight, well-crafted script chock full of answers and goodies. The episode did an excellent job of referencing past episodes and pulling all the threads together seamlessly. Nobody can do that better than Drew - it's one of his gifts, and always much appreciated. Kudos to all the actors for some great performances. Standing ovation to EM for doing a superb job in her episode. Special mention to Evi and Josh who did a lovely job with that reunion scene. :inlove: Sayid is made of awesome. Great to see the whole group together, and everybody just plain rocked tonight. Everybody. :biggrin: Most of the posts have been one sentence "WOW" comments... Thanks for your time in putting together "a bit more" ... I simply can't belive that a "LOST Fan" could not treasure this episode. Great writing, acting, editing, and ANSWERS !! Thank you for an elegantly written post. flashbackfan 04-12-2007, 04:59 AM Really enjoyed this one. Great acting, great writing. Sayid rocks! Elizabeth Mitchell was amazing... and so was Michael Emerson, as usual. I gave the epi a 9. Now THIS is Lost! :D TRoss 04-12-2007, 05:17 AM My third 10 this season. :) I definitely need to watch that one AGAIN - I can't even begin to recall all the times I was shocked, cried, or was laughing right at the TV - not that it was funny, but there were things some of the characters said that made me say "HA!". First off, the REUNION!! I thought Sawyer and Jack's reunion was SO touching - Josh has got that "concerned" face DOWN. But then the Sawyer and Kate reunion - that had me BAWLING. It was so SWEET!! :bawling: Did you see that . . .what would you call it - sigh of relief? - when he saw Kate come around the corner? How people can say Sawyer's a heartless character I do not KNOW. I loved Hurley's "subtle" threat. :71: And someone else mentioned the dialogue when Juliet and Ben went to go see Mikhal - that was hilarious. Someone mentioned Drew's eps have more "glitter", if this is the effect, then he needs to STAY till the end. It really was a great story, and then yes, all these little details that made it even richer. And all hail the return of "Sawyer, the Unexpected Voice of Reason"!! :clap: I make no secret that one of my favorite things about Sawyer is his intelligence, so I was REALLY glad to see him demonstrating it this ep. Yes, Jack has bonded with Juliet, and for good reason, but even if you WANT to trust her, SHOULD you? Just yet?? ThoughI still hold that she's going to try and play Ben, rather than go along with him for whatever they're up to. I loved seeing Sawyer and Sayid team up too, and though I agree with Juliet that they don't need to be judgmental, I don't think they were - they were trying to protect what is now their "family". And what is UP with THEM getting called on self-righteousness, and Jack never does? :rolleyes: Reminded me of that scene where Sawyer was telling Kate what she could and couldn't do, and HE got called out for it, but she never did that to Jack. Sheesh. LOL. Not saying Jack was wrong when he did it, or that Sawyer was right to be that way, just pointing out that one character gets called on it, while the others do NOT. :23: And the REVEAL!! I should expect that by now, but I still get just as surprised - they sell it THAT WELL. Just when I THOUGHT that she was actually telling the truth, BAM! They are so good at that. Was anyone else creeped out that Juliet just kind of nonchalantly walked back to her house after seeing a PLANE ripped apart and falling to the island?? As were many of the Others - but I expect THEM to be odd. I just expected her to go in Jack mode and try and gather some people together to go find out if they could help. Clearly the two or three people Ben sent out were not going for that purpose. And the PREVIEW!!Boy, are we in for a ride!! How many eps are left? Like only seven? *cries* And again, what is UP with the evil spoiler monkeys? "The beginning of the end"??:rolleyes: And I even smiled during the skate reunion. :rolleyes:HA! But will you make a skate vid for us know? :23: ;) :kiss: excellent episode. loved how they made it so that you werent sure of juliet's motivation. even after the ending, im still not sure what she's up to. so awesome!I know! What IS she up to? She did say she's already "on her own", so I wonder if she isn't planning on playing both sides so she can get what she wants - to go home. :( Lost_In_Louisiana 04-12-2007, 05:17 AM I am usually very stingy with my ratings because I expect a lot out of my LOST epi's. However, this one with "the sickness" attacking Claire, the teaming up of Sayid & Sawyer, the sweet reunion of Sawyer & Kate, Hurley's thinly veiled threat (genius writing!), and absolutely EVERYTHING Elizabeth Mitchell said or did warranted a 9! The only reason the episode wasn't a 10 was because I felt precious seconds/minutes were wasted revisiting certain flashback scenes in Otherville. But it was really close, my finger was on the 1 and 0!!! :biggrin: palomino_grl78 04-12-2007, 06:54 AM I gave it a very high 9 (almost a 10 but that is being reserved for the BIG ONE :biggrin: ) . The acting was excellant and the writing was great too. This is what LOST is supposed to be. After this episode, I am a new Julliette fan. Plus I am glad that the ensemble was back, for the most part, and no one died. That in itself was 9 worthy. sjb121590 04-12-2007, 07:49 AM 8. I thought it was a great eppy, but not amazing. We got Jacket... We got Juliet... We got answers... Don't know why I didn't love it more... Danelectro 04-12-2007, 08:01 AM 9. Great, great, great. It got me emotionally involved which is always good. And everyone was there (except Locke, but they mentioned him and I expected they would react to his leaving with the Others, but nothing). I also liked the fact that Jack and Sawyer gave each other a hug. I liked the first Juliet episode as well, but this one was even better. lostlocke 04-12-2007, 08:29 AM Gave it an 8, I really liked it alot. It was a great episode. I keep the 9 and 10 ratings for the episodes where at the end you just are there with your mouth hanging open!! I can't wait for those episodes. I knew you couldn't trust Juliet, so it wasn't a shocker to me. You can't trust any of the others. When are they going to learn?!! chellly 04-12-2007, 08:42 AM I gave it a 9. I thought it was fantastic and Elizabeth Mitchell did an amazing job. I am with everyone that said they believed everything she was saying up until the reveal at the end. I was floored! I really am liking her character more and more. Her “showdown” so to speak with Sayid and Sawyer was fantastic and she really put them in their place. I love both of the guys, but she had a point. Loved the reunion between Sawyer and Kate. They are so cute. I have always been a Jack fan, but I think that is starting to turn a bit. I did get a chuckle out of his “She’s under my protection” comment to Sayid. Oh ok, the spinal surgeon is going to scare someone who was a soldier and tortured people? Yeah right. I look forward to the rest of the season that’s for sure. Dezdemona 04-12-2007, 08:45 AM Most of the posts have been one sentence "WOW" comments... Thanks for your time in putting together "a bit more" ... I simply can't belive that a "LOST Fan" could not treasure this episode. Great writing, acting, editing, and ANSWERS !! Thank you for an elegantly written post. You're very welcome. :biggrin: Thank YOU for mentioning the editing. *smacks forehead* I completely forgot to say how stellar the editing was in an episode that relied on it so heavily. Will correct my post immediately! :kiss: Joshypoo 04-12-2007, 09:25 AM That episode was awesome - I rated it a 9 (which is rare for me). Juliet's flashbacks were great - very informative. The reunion at the beach were Sawyer sees Kate, then they hug - it was touching. The twist at the end when we find out about the real Juliet was genius. Loved the whole episode. Zatherran 04-12-2007, 09:29 AM some things leave you breathless.. leave you speachless.. leave you blank. leave you standing in front of the tv saying "wtf" and all you can do is look at your family and say WOW.. that is good tv.. I give this a 10. Alfred Hitchcock would be proud. so at first I was all "poor muffin" leaving her sister, not getting to come home, then as the pieces fell together - my gut said - told you not trust that calm face and smurky smile. the only complaint i have is the filming part.. they are just up close too much on the people. pull back some.. just seeing a face and no body language gets annoying.. the orignal filming in the first season was nicer.. but its 729am and I am still trying to catch my breath... :) wanders01 04-12-2007, 09:41 AM Hated her before hate her more now. Not because of any ulterior motive but because of all the lies and manipulations. Don't like it in real life or fiction. Loved the episode. Gave a lot of food for thought. It seems that there are many levels to the long con going on. lostgurl 04-12-2007, 09:42 AM I gave it a 9. EM and ME (wow, their initials are opposites!) are hands down the best actors on television at the moment. I don't care if Ben and Juliet are creepy bad guys....they. are. AWESOME. I absolutely loved when Juliet got the case of medicine from Sayid and Sawyer, you could almost hear their mouths snap shut. Not that I don't love Sawyer and Sayid, but you gotta love those "oh snap!" moments. Charlie and Claire stuff was excellent. I wasn't spoiled at all, so I was totally on Jack and Juliet's side, the ending blew my mind. I'm still on Jack's side though - he will figure it all out in time. Another Lostie reunion, I love those. Not to mention the cinematography - gorgeous. sickotriz 04-12-2007, 09:44 AM I agree, even though Ben and Juliet are with the Others, they are my favorite characters this season! AnalogKid 04-12-2007, 09:47 AM Fantastic, riveting episode! I gave it a 10. We got some answers...and we got conned into thinking everything was okay with Juliet...oh man that ending! I liked how they focused on Juliet tying a knot..symbolic of tightening a noose around them? :eek2: TheBeastIsMe 04-12-2007, 10:07 AM Remember half way throught the mini-season that people were screaming for blood? This season to me is sweet satisfaction. The only thing now that S1 outranks S3 in is cinematography. Everything else is better: acting, plot, suspense, direction. I gave it a 9, but they could have gotten a 10 from me if they had a millisecond of Locke! Juniebun 04-12-2007, 10:48 AM I loved it! I thought EM was fantastic! I wanted to watch another episode right away after "One of Us" finished! Even though I knew that wouldn't and couldn't happen, I was bummed that another episode didn't come on after that one... I gave it a 9...a 9+! desmondslosthairstraighteners 04-12-2007, 11:08 AM Wow what an episode, LOST has spoiled us ever since it came back. So many good episodes, so i don't criticize and i roll with it when they bring out a filler episode, but then there are these episodes that are just breathtaking. Acting in this was superb, especially from Elizabeth Mitchell, Michael Emerson was fantastic, i thought Matthew Fox was good as well, as always. Directing in this episode, wow, everything just flowed together. Like one big ocean wave, the editing was great, loving the way they spliced together Juliet's old flashback with the new, and the new scene they shot with Ben and Juliet talking, and the plane crash still in the background in the sky - some more great green screen work there i think. Plus the whole pregnant storyline had some great cinematography when as Juliet made the reveal they showed Ethan's past events. The ensemble feel was fantastic, everyone had a part this episode - Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Sayid, Sun, Jin, Charlie, Claire, Juliet, Ethan, that creepy Richard dude, Ben, even Mikhail. We got so many answers, how they got their information on the survivors (Mikhail and his big fat computer) how Juliet got there (with Ethan and Richard in the sub), that whole unresolved vaccine plot line, why Claire was really stolen (to save her life and to experiment). It also raised some questions, like with Sun pregnant is she gonna die? What has Ben promised Juliet to go through this torture? What happens in a weeks time? Personally i think Locke didn't really blow the sub up, and Locke has told Ben this, and he's again promising Juliet to get off the island. Also more questions about Jacob. He's obviously a very important person. Another thing as well, the music was fantastically used this episode, in some of the past one's i think they've been using that whole Kate's theme a bit too much, and this episode felt like it had a lot more variety. It had the old classic plane crash song, the end reveal song, and btw i'm loving that new song they brought in in SIASL, loved it in this episode. 9/10 from me great stuff. I only give 10's to the masterpieces, like the Pilot and Walkabout, and Exodus, and MOSMOF. Felt like season 1 all over again, fantastic. sickotriz 04-12-2007, 11:22 AM It also raised some questions, like with Sun pregnant is she gonna die? What has Ben promised Juliet to go through this torture? What happens in a weeks time? Personally i think Locke didn't really blow the sub up, and Locke has told Ben this, and he's again promising Juliet to get off the island. Also more questions about Jacob. He's obviously a very important person. This is why I love Lost. As soon as you get an answer, it leads to another question. This keeps me thinking about the show for a lot longer than any other show I watch. One question: So, did Sun conceive on the island or off? I think this will have a lot of significance in the coming seasons. Second question: Is Jacob a person? A force? An acronym? (J.A.C.O.B.)? Third question: Was the gas mask that Ben gave to Juliet simply to keep her from getting knocked out from the gas, or does it serve a dual purpose? Where did the Others go, and do they need gas masks to get there? Perhaps to protect them from "The Sickness" or other dangerous fumes? Panten 04-12-2007, 11:31 AM Wow, what a great episode - definatley in my top three of this season. There were so many great scenes and developments it's hard to start somewhere. EM was fantastic - you feel with Juliet the whole episode and think what a poor women she is and then they give us the ending scene with Ben - BAM! She is growing to be one of my favourite characters on the show. I also loved the interaction and growing tension between several people - Sayid and Jack aren't done yet and now he has Sawyer on his side - this should get interesting. And i think there's more to Ben and Juliet too - will she really be playing her role as a mole or has she other plans? In a way, this reminds me alot of the Michael plot last season - a father who would do anything to get his son back, would Juliet do the same for to get to her sister? As we all know, Ben seems to keep his promises. Alot of answers were possibilities for speculation were given and as i already mentioned, the ending scene was one of the classic Lost moments were you just stare at your Tv and can not believe that it is already over. After the last two fillers, this was Lost at its best. Intense story, great acting and a brilliant script - i loved it! 10/10 Dezdemona 04-12-2007, 11:33 AM Forgot to mention a couple of things last night: * Sun pregnant on an island where all pregnant women die? BIG Uh-oh. * Kate, shooting a worried look at Sun, while I'm thinking SHE'S had some of that unprotected sex herself of late. DOUBLE big uh-oh, with sprinkles on top! * Claire's implant? SCARIEST thing on the island to date!!! :eek2: * Now I'm thinking of all the people who've had contact with the Others and who might have an "implant" of their own: Michael, Walt, Charlie, Kate, Sawyer, Jack, Locke - even Juliet, herself! Whoa! Eugenics by remote control??? The Others are not "the good guys" in any possible universe I can relate to. :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: Can I give this episode an 11? :biggrin: sickotriz 04-12-2007, 11:43 AM * Now I'm thinking of all the people who've had contact with the Others and who might have an "implant" of their own: Michael, Walt, Charlie, Kate, Sawyer, Jack, Locke - even Juliet, herself! Whoa! Eugenics by remote control??? The Others are not "the good guys" in any possible universe I can relate to. :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: Can I give this episode an 11? :biggrin: I agree about the implant. It would have been easy to give any of them an implant... and we know for a fact that Kate, Jack, and Sawyer did have a needle inserted into them at some point before they woke up... But they ARE the good guys. No doubt about that. ;) redmaria 04-12-2007, 11:44 AM wow!just finished watching it!!!Gave it a 10!!Wasnt really that shocking,as most of us had predicted(Claire-astrology wise) the outcome of Juliet's sudden interest in our losties,but because of the excellent acting(Not a rarity on this show)and the shots of so much new scenery!!!The submarine being in a ''pod''(lake)!!!Now that was what i call an answer!!!!So much debate about that!!i got chills runing up and down my tumorless spine watching the submarine sequence!!!!Strong stuff! :fear3: elfdream 04-12-2007, 11:56 AM I give it a 9. My one complaint is her shut down of Sayid and Saywer. Whenever one of the others starts that sanctimonious self righteous trash talking I want one lostie to stand up and tell them "It doesn't matter who we WERE anymore!" and tell them to shut the hell up. I await the day. Apart from that..great episode. ToKyO 04-12-2007, 12:15 PM 9/10 Just an amazing episode, from top to bottom. redmaria 04-12-2007, 12:25 PM I give it a 9. My one complaint is her shut down of Sayid and Saywer. Whenever one of the others starts that sanctimonious self righteous trash talking I want one lostie to stand up and tell them "It doesn't matter who we WERE anymore!" and tell them to shut the hell up. I await the day. Apart from that..great episode. Thats exactly what i thought!and i didnt demand such a polite answer too!!!!:badwords: annieone 04-12-2007, 01:59 PM wow. A 9 for the epi, a 10 for Elisabeth Mitchell ims 04-12-2007, 02:03 PM Why cant I vote you maayaday? lostcheri 04-12-2007, 02:10 PM WOW! What a eposide! I gave it a 9....I just wish Jack wasn't so trusting of Juliet or has he gone to other side? BlackrockBob 04-12-2007, 02:10 PM This episode had two of the best scenes on Lost for me: 1) Hugo telling Juliette what happened to the last Other that was on the beach. Just the subtle hint of what would happen to her if she did something wrong. 2) Juliette shutting up Sayid and Sawyer by telling the things from their past that they are most ashamed of. I just hope Jack has a plan. He always has a plan, but they never work out right. I didn't like his "she is under my protection" attitude. I think we saw more foreshadowing, and until we see it pay off, it is hard to get a good feel of how great this episode really was. Just like Expose, I'm waiting until the season is over until I really judge this episode. I have a feeling we will look back and realize that this was a knock you on the floor episode. Tiny Time Machine 04-12-2007, 02:13 PM Great episode. I gave it an 8. Liked The flashback. That scene between Juliet and Ben in his kitchen was wonderful. I think Emerson is a great actor (although not as great as some say) but he outdid himself here. Elizabeth Mitchell is, in my opinion, the best addition to the cast since the pilot episode. Sayid. Seriously, with every episode I become more and more thankful for this character. No cheesy B.S. like last week's subplot and the whole of 'Exposé'. Ethan!!! This character gets TONS of screentime for a dead guy, but I love every second of it. Tangible forward momentum in the plot. Everybody's back at camp! Well, except for Locke, but he's always done his own thing. Hopefully this will mean less segregated storytelling for the remainder of the year. I think that has really hurt season three. Didn't like Yet another slow-motion musical reunion. I'm almost as sick of these scenes as I am of the Hurley-eulogising Claire-looking-mopey funeral scenes. Charlie seemingly having forgotten being hung and nearly killed. Claire being used solely as a damsel-in-distress yet again. This character could be so much more. jontarbox 04-12-2007, 03:20 PM I gave this episode a 9 ...loved the tension between Jack and Sayid, Elizabeth Mitchell is absolutely brilliant as Juliet...... irish lost fan 04-12-2007, 04:12 PM 10 - This episode is up with my other favourites "The Glass Ballerina" and "Par Avion" because.. Juliet is a great character. Good flashbacks and good on island story. Claire-time. I always love an episode that features Claire. Jack is wrong.. AGAIN. Sayid is right.. AGAIN. The tension between the two was great. erin1679 04-12-2007, 04:50 PM I gave it a 9. I liked that it didn't leave us dangling with Juliet...is she a spy or not.... I had thought it was rather coincedental that Claire got sick right after Juliet got there...glad they cleared that up right away too :) It was a great episode. I'm glad I stayed up, though I still wish that it switched back to its earlier time :redface: LostIslandBaby 04-12-2007, 04:52 PM I gave it a 9. I liked that it didn't leave us dangling with Juliet...is she a spy or not.... I had thought it was rather coincedental that Claire got sick right after Juliet got there...glad they cleared that up right away too :) It was a great episode. I'm glad I stayed up, though I still wish that it switched back to its earlier time :redface: Yes, it was a great episode and I'm glad I was able to stay up for it too, thanks to spring break. I am with you on the time change.:) ZoSo 04-12-2007, 05:14 PM An 8, it was really good but there could've been more Other/Dharma stuff in her FB that would've made it more interesting. Skybluelost 04-12-2007, 06:23 PM ...bravo, gave it a 10...well played...great action, tension, and above all one of the top runners for the best...called it on juliette all the way...my big question i would ask juliette would be, "i thought you said all the pregnant women died, what about rousseau?"... skybluelost minnesotan_grl83 04-12-2007, 06:41 PM Gave ' One Of Us' a 9!! Great job on putting this episode together!!!! :thumbsup: This is the most I have seen of an episode that gave away a lot of answers!!!! I loved it!!! I couldn't believe Juliet, after her pleading she is innocent and all, is actually not. It's too bad, I was looking forward to her becoming friends with everyone. I had a weird feeling about her when she entered camp. Poor Claire. :( islandchica 04-12-2007, 06:56 PM Gave it an 8. I thought it was a really good episode. The acting was superb - Elizabeth Mitchell and Michael Emerson especially did a fantastic job. I like how, right when I was starting to believe Juliet's story, and think that she may ACTUALLY be a good person, we find out that she's still in line with Ben and Co. And can I just say that I LOVED Sayid and Sawyer in this episode? They were right all along! I should have known better than to doubt Sayid, haha. heatherlar 04-12-2007, 07:51 PM I gave it a 9, with a 10 for Elizabeth Mitchell's performance. Her portrayal of Juliet, along with superb writing, make this character absolutely fascinating. It wasn't exactly a shocker that she is a plant, but I'm holding out hope that there is more to the story ... perhaps she will double-cross Ben. THAT I would love to see, and in the end I'm hopeful that she'll fall on the side of the Losties. I can't help but root for her. The island action was terrific, the plot moved along at a nice pace, and the reunion was sweet. The Kate/Sawyer hug was quite moving, and the Jack/Sawyer man hug was a nice touch. Some of the dialogue, particularly between Jack and Juliet, made little sense to me, but perhaps this will be cleared up in the upcoming episodes. How did Juliet know that Sawyer killed Duckett, anyway? pdh1978 04-12-2007, 08:01 PM This episode sucked. Really. It was an episode for the moaners out there, the "We want answers! We want answers!" mob. Guess what people? We all realised after the Not in Portland episode that blondie was required on the island because people have difficulty getting/staying pregnant on the island. Most of us realised that Ben did not know who was on the plane when it crashed, but that the Islanders have a means to communicate with the outside world and could find out who was on it. And it was bleeding obvious that blondie was planted in the group last week, when Jack said "She's coming with us" (did no-one else think "uh-oh" at that point?). So what did we really learn? That blondie's sister had her baby and blondie was dating sleeping with Goodwin. Wow. Great stuff. And there was no excitement of any kind, whatsoever! Still it was nicely written, and let's face it, still better than any other tv shows. Hopefully Desmond's episode next week will be an absolute stonker, to make up for this weeks. Baileysdad 04-12-2007, 08:38 PM ATTENTION ALL!!! Previews are SPOILERS and must be SPOILER FONTED. Also, please report the post as a spoiler so the MODS can fix it..don't quote it in your reply to the poster as it makes more work for us...and don't reply to the person who quotes it in their post...hit the RP button and one of us will take care of it. Thanks... knitngurl 04-12-2007, 08:38 PM Gave it a 9. Things are getting much better on the show. The past 3 or so epis have almost made up for the rest of the season. kadayi_polokov 04-12-2007, 08:59 PM 9. A good episode in that it provided a lot of answers to a lot of mysteries, as well as set up an interesting situation where Jack might well end up with more than egg on his face if events play out badly for him. I wondered what the point of Hurley conning Sawyer into assuming command was as we all knew Jack was coming back to the beach. If things go tits up with Juliet (as it looks like they might), Sawyer will be in prime position to take the reins, especially as it looks like Sayid is prepared to support him. Trevski 04-12-2007, 09:23 PM Wow!. Intruiging, exciting, brilliant.....this is definitely shaping up to be the best and most diverse season IMO. SarahM 04-12-2007, 10:02 PM Wow! I gave this one 10! It featured all my favorite characters and actually managed to answer some questions. I loved the Juliet and Ben scenes! I really like Ben and Juliet better and better with each episode. The kitchen scene is one of my all time favorites! Great acting! The Sawyer and Kate scene was very sweet. Sawyer has always been my favorite character and Ben has almost caught up now! Hope they both survive! jheri 04-12-2007, 10:12 PM I gave it a 9, I really enjoyed it. I thought that Juliet had changed and maby she has, we shall see, but from the looks of it at the end of the episode she hasn't, and its hard to trust her. It just gets more and more interesting. I can't wait to see the next episode! MegletTX 04-12-2007, 11:33 PM This episode ROCKED!! But couldn't bring myself to quite give it a 10 since that would be absolute perfection (which is like nearly impossible!) so I gave it a 9. :biggrin: Kell 04-12-2007, 11:51 PM I'm waiting until the season is over until I really judge this episode. I have a feeling we will look back and realize that this was a knock you on the floor episode. Really? Then why give it a 1 - Very Bad Episode? That seems like going ahead before the season is over and judging the episode. pibbsneaker 04-13-2007, 01:50 AM Not sure exactly what to give this one, but my score wouldn't be good. I've detested the Juliet character since her introduction and her flashback makes me hate the Others' storyline even more. They've all but runined the show. I'm still incredulous as to the warm welcome that she recieved back at the beach camp. After all the Others did to the them, you'd think that the people at the beach would at least tie her up regardless of what Jack said. The whole thing with Juliet treating Claire was beyond silly. First of all, why does Claire have to get an injection from Juliet. Couldn't someone have gotten the case and given it to her? I don't buy the whole--I must be ok cause I'm the only one that can help Claire--bit that fooled everybody. Just stupid. MFerris 04-13-2007, 02:25 AM I gave it a 9. It filled in a huge chunk of the Other's backstory without giving away the whole thing. It also made me wonder if Julliette is on Ben's side, Jack's side or on her own side. Yes, we saw she's a plant but we also saw how Ben has treated her durring her last three years on the Island. This episode gave us an interesting clue when they had to give her tranquilizers for her journey to lessen the shock, that was interesting. Also, this show wrapped up the whole Captive-Jack story, so from here on out it's all uncharted territory. Helen_ 04-13-2007, 02:58 AM The episode was incredible, I voted 10. I felt my brain was boiling and it still is;) In my opinion it was just the greatest episode of S 3. Not my best-loved, 'cause I love that kind of emotional episodes the most, like ATOTC or PA, but definitely most fascinating so far (even more than FBYE). And Elizabeth Mitchell is a wonderful actress! DrUrbino 04-13-2007, 07:42 AM 10 of 10 That is my opinion. :) ESP 04-13-2007, 09:31 AM 11/10. I really loved this episode. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: lovelost4815162342 04-13-2007, 11:28 AM WOW WOW AND MORE WOW!!!!! 10 all the way. It is probably the first one after the hiatus with a 10 for me, even thought the other ones have been increadible! This episode pretty much had all i could possible want. YAY! lostinlaf 04-13-2007, 12:04 PM I give it a 10, because I love the episodes that surprise me. I was totally feeling sorry for Ethan Juliet and thinking they were actually trying to help Claire, (of course I had forgotten how he, presumably him, had strung up Charlie), but then they twist it back around at the end and leave me wondering again... KariLynn 04-13-2007, 02:14 PM I have to admit that I've been trying to wean myself off of the Fuselage and have been pretty successful since October (though I still watch the show religiously). This is the first episode this season where I absolutely couldn't resist logging on to see what everyone was saying. I haven't been this excited since the Blast Door Map! QueenLizzie13 04-13-2007, 05:15 PM yeah, I try to stay away from the Fuselage to avoid being tempted to look at spoilers. But ever since Lost came back from it's long hiatus, I haven't been able to resist. Especially with FBYE, TMFT, and now One Of Us. <3. xoxo. fruitloop 04-13-2007, 05:25 PM :smile: :smile: Loved the epi! Yeah, Jack...she is "one of us" but she will walk over your dead body to get off the island! Sawyer was so sweet with Kate..and Jack...I cant totally hate Juliette though she has had such a hard time....and when in the world will people realize they better listen to Sayid! Bad_Robot 04-13-2007, 06:29 PM That was an amazing eppy and I loved it very much. One of the best of the season definately. jhh 04-13-2007, 10:26 PM 5 Would they please ask some damn questions. This double talking, long conning crap needs to end at this season, because I won't sit through another season of it. But my main problem is the others going to the extreme for an infant and a pregnant woman. Through out this entire series we have always been fed the line 'I don't want him do it, I want him to want to do it.' But that gets thrown out the window when it comes to kidnapping women and children. The others are the most irritating villains ever in the history of tv. Maxum 04-13-2007, 11:22 PM This was a great episode. Everything about it. Juliet is one of the most ambiguous characters on Lost, and that's not an easy thing to say since so many of them are mysterious. Her flashbacks were just heartbreaking in the sense of just how desperate and lonely she is on that island. Sleeping with Goodwin is not love, it's companionship. Her rage at Ben for his sudden tumor to her joy at seeing her sister and her nephew on video was an emotional roller coaster ride. EM is a great addition to this show. LOVED the reunion on the beach, and I was really happy to see the Jack and Sawyer interaction. It felt genuine. Although Sawyer does not know that Jack knows about him and Kate, there was no animosity between these two guys. Someone hit it on the head in an earlier post, it was warm AND awkward. I do love having the entire ensemble together. I actually was pretty happy at how Juliet cut Sawyer and Sayid off at the legs, mostly because it showed these two guys (in some ways) what Jack was up against as a prisoner. Just when you think you have the upperhand and you think there's an easy way to get answers to your questions, the Others come in from left field and drop a bomb on you. Jack didn't know they had a dossier on him, and Sayid and Sawyer learned the same lesson. It's easy to want to come at your adversary with guns blazing, but sometimes you don't really know your adversary or how powerful they may be. I believe that both men have just learned their first "Other" lesson. I think Juliet was just happy to get away with her life. It was really nice to get some answers regarding the purpose Ben's group in terms of trying to ensure full-term pregnancies. It answered the question of why they wanted Juliet - a woman who made an infertile woman pregnant and why they were interested in children. Of course, there are still many other questions that need to be answered, but it was a great start. As for the Jack issue of trusting Juliet, I think way too many people are jumping to the conclusion that Jack does, in fact, trust her. We have no real evidence of it, and Jack has proven to be a man who can be deceptive. After spending two weeks fighting against Ben and Juliet and not trusting a word that came out of their mouths, I just find it very difficult to believe that Jack suddenly trusts her. Kate asked some interesting questions of Jack in the jungle when they were collecting firewood. She wanted to know what happened to him in that last week in Othersville, and Jack told her that he kept his head down, didn't create any trouble, and didn't ask any questions. Now, that's not the Jack I know at all. Nope. Something's up. I just hope it's not a bad "something." Lastly, that final back-stabbing scene with Juliet and Ben was pure Lost. Loved it for it's ambiguity. Who DOES Juliet trust? Who is she deceiving or is she the one being deceived? And if so, by whom - Jack or Ben? Excellent episode and great performances by all. PennyKnows 04-14-2007, 10:27 AM Very very good episode. Gave it an 8 - as I am a harsh critique LOL lockeisthekey 04-14-2007, 10:29 AM I gave it a 7. Really good, but not the best ever. I was afraid it would suck when I realized it was a "juliet" eppy... but it didn't. my only complaint- no John Locke! :) I still don't think we're getting the full picture though. I've thought Juliet a mole since she was "left behind", and this eppy did nothing to change my mind. EXCEPT-- I just can't trust what I'm being shown. :D Sayidfan33 04-14-2007, 07:39 PM I'm giving it a 9. Very close to a 10, but it irritates me to see Jack being played by Juliet so easily while everyone else is on to her. Overall a great episode! JeremyBender 04-14-2007, 09:48 PM Awesome episode from beginning to end. First off, I'll always love Juliet if for no other reason than her laying the verbal smackdown on those sanctimonious scumbags Sayid and James. I thought James' head was going to exlode when she calmly mentioned the man he "killed in cold blood the night before you got on the plane". After what Sayid did to Ben in the Swan gun armory the first day he was caught, I keep yearning for Sayid to be reduced to a bloody pile of skin and broken bones, but alas, a verbal beating will have to do. For now. Great scenes between Ben and Juliet, nice to see Goodwin and Ethan again, Richard is way cool, tons of answers, great music as usual, no Charlie/James/Hugo "comedy" scenes (always a plus when there isn't one), wonderful photography and direction, a well deserved 10 in my book. Charmedfreak 04-15-2007, 03:29 AM 9/10- good episode, the ending shocked me, I never saw that coming. Grasshopper 04-15-2007, 02:30 PM good epi i gave it 7 i was starting to like Juliet but brill twist at the end. xpetri 04-15-2007, 05:15 PM 10/10. Classic. MasterCrackle 04-15-2007, 07:42 PM Great Episode. I gave it a 9. Loved it when Sayid was spiting out questions at Juliet. The end was jaw dropping, (though I suspected it) but I didn't expect them to give us that so quickly. llamalover 04-15-2007, 09:56 PM loved it, everything seemed perfect honeymfw 04-16-2007, 02:03 PM I loved the episode. I believe it answered a lot of questions. The_Valenzetti_Equation 04-16-2007, 09:08 PM Wow. Great episode. Stupendous. Awesome. Exciting. Fantasmagorical. After 4 nines and an 8 in the past five episodes...PERFECT TEN. One of very few episodes to get that in my book. lostfan80 04-17-2007, 04:55 PM One of the best episodes of the season. Ethanrules 04-18-2007, 02:52 PM 10/10 A fantastic episode! I didn't enjoy Not In Portland and have hated Juliet's character since the beginning of Season 3,but after this episode she has become one of my favorite characters. Her scenes with Ben were great acting. I especially liked the scenes in which she tells Ben that he has the tumor,and when he takes her to the Flame. I didn't see her betrayal coming,and I'm still not quite sure if she really is helping the Others. The preview has me very excited for the next few weeks. talliann 04-20-2007, 09:15 PM Pretty good episode. Rated 9. Porochaz 04-21-2007, 09:26 PM Great episode, loved it a 9 and a half episode simply because it didn't touch my top 6 but was still an excellent episode... (I gave it 10 on the poll since theres no 9 and a half) kerrixx1 06-12-2007, 08:05 PM OOOOOH....this is one my all time faves! Liz Mitchell was brilliant in this. Lots of mysterious smokey stuff going on too! Loved it. Gave it a 10 but would've given it more. swordgirl 07-09-2007, 06:59 AM good episode , have some revelation . i like that.... also love the hug scene between kate n sawyer even noticing some discontinuing in that scene.... freckles_shephard 07-14-2007, 11:49 AM Very good episode, I enjoy Juliet flashbacks. seeingJack return to the beach was definately a high light too. 1DocLover 07-18-2007, 12:32 PM Very good episode, I enjoy Juliet flashbacks. seeingJack return to the beach was definately a high light too. Of course I was happy to see Jack walking back up the beach to the Losties camp, however Sawyer with his "son of a *****" , didn't seem too thrilled to have him back. But I did think the little hug they gave each other was very sweet. No matter what has happened with Jack/Kate or Sawyer/Kate - Jack and Sawyer have something between them (completely separate of Kate), and I really hope that gets developed more in Season 4. thelizinator297 01-08-2008, 02:23 AM Awesome eppy. It gave us so many answers, but it has also still implanted plenty of questions in my mind. I loved the reunion (Kate and Sawyer were cute) and the cute C/C moments. One moment I found particularly intriguing was when Juliet pointed out to Sayid and Sawyer that maybe they shouldn't be acting righteous. Total cliffhanger ending! RipperJack 01-08-2008, 07:56 PM Its a good ending. Leaving you to believe that the Losties were in trouble with Juliet, but I always trusted her to be good. SCREW BEN! giulia_ricci 03-04-2008, 11:00 AM I would give 10 only for skate reunion!!! |