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Karri
05-02-2007, 03:00 PM
What did you think? Rate it and then discuss the good and the bad. :)

caforrest2047
05-02-2007, 09:57 PM
My favourite episode ever, IMO there was nothing wrong with this episode. I pesonally would have given it a higher mark, if I could have. they should up the highest rating.

EricGunn
05-02-2007, 10:10 PM
Absolutely brilliant!!!

By far the most intense episode of the series. Well written and directed, Josh Holloway is at the peak of his craft and it flows Oh so smoothly.
I havent cried over a TV show scene in ages, but tonight, even if it's wrong, you will cry for Sawyer too...

10 out of 10.

:devil1: :devil2: :dgrin: :devil: :evil: :twisted: :34853_huh: ... Are they really there?:shrug:

The Shapeshifter
05-02-2007, 10:15 PM
Josh was amazing, and the whole thing was really well-crafted... but I couldn't rate it a full 10, because the Kate/Jack/Juliet scene just made me so ANGRY.

Kell
05-03-2007, 12:02 AM
Gave it a 10. Not quite as good as Expose, but really, really good. Maybe the best hour of Lost ever other than Expose (which was the best hour of television ever).

sickotriz
05-03-2007, 12:05 AM
Definitely a 10.

One of the best episodes of Lost or any TV show I've ever watched. This was HUGE payoff for Sawyer and Locke's storylines. Wow.

ozieozwall
05-03-2007, 12:14 AM
Rated it a 10 ! There is no reason to ever kill anyone. To exploit this subject in the way the writers wrote it, was amazing. Locke's father ( Kevin Tigh did a fine job) died in the car accident but on his way to hell, he had one stop to make and (Josh did the best acting scene ever on any TV show or Theatre movie I've ever seen) that was to resolve the conman's past deeds before being buried in Hell Forever.

This was the best acting, best directed and best written EP ever on Lost.

If you could bottle what happened on the Brig EP then there would be no question that the series Lost would be the most popular TV series Ever.

Thank You for a Brilliant Story

Diesels Blitz
05-03-2007, 12:20 AM
I gave this episode a 10 out of 10. I only gave away 3 other 10's during the entire series ("Collision", "Live Together, Die Alone", "I Do").

Brilliant acting, need I say more?

wedestroymyths
05-03-2007, 12:23 AM
wow.

so good.

just.

wow.

kpdjp
05-03-2007, 12:24 AM
i wasn't too thrilled with this episode.. it was one of the most predictable episodes this season. was anyone really surprised that cooper was the real sawyer? or that jack was hiding something? the whole jack/juliet/kate scene pissed me off as well. jack's smugness and holier-than-thou attitude and kate's dumb trust in him. both characters should be smarter than that =P

GettinLost
05-03-2007, 12:32 AM
I gave it a 9 - but that's really a ten for me because I never give out tens... :biggrin:

Thought it was an excellent episode - but it didn't "go" the way I thought... I was truly hoping Sawyer would not shoot Tony Cooper. But - in a way - it was merciful.

gigil115
05-03-2007, 12:34 AM
:o For me it was a dark, intense and weirdly hypnotic. I have so many thoughts running through my head over this one, it'll take time to sort out. I gave it a 10 because no other show can touch Lost for thought provoking storylines, dialogue, drama, suspense etc. The Brig had the whole package for me!

I understand how it's not for everyone because it challenges the viewers patience and intellect. If someone watches it for the first time tonight, they will be totally confused. It drives:eek: me crazy sometimes, but I'm still a Lost addict to the end!

lostnthesoutheast
05-03-2007, 12:37 AM
It was a wild, wild ride!!!!!! I gave it a 10 and I would have gone higher if I could have. It doesn't get any better than such an emotional and intesese episode where both Locke and Sawyer are centric!!!!! Better than the pilot even in my opinion.

The only down side, was Kate being such a twit. But the rest of the episode more than made up for it! I loved seeing that Jack and Juliet are indeed secretly working together. (I just love Juliet in genreal!) And I loved that Desmond and the gang went to Sayid when they needed someone they could trust. I loved that Locke had to admit to Sawyer that he was too weak to take care of his own problem. And I loved that Sawyer still gets all torn up inside whenever anyone mentions his parents.

Shocked that Locke never bothered to ask Danielle, though, what she was planning to do with the dynamite. I guess he was too preoccupied with personal matters, although I fear that this mistake may come back to haunt him.

Great episode! And other then Kate (and I don't hate her, but I could soon if she doesn't wise up), my only complaints are that the show wasn't nearly long enough and that the commercials seemed to last for decades. I was on the edge of my seat with my heart pounding, the whole way through.

Tigerlily1647
05-03-2007, 12:40 AM
I thought it was pretty good, not great. I really liked Sawyer. When he was forcing cooper to read the letter... that was pretty intense and the best part of the episode. But cooper himself was extremely annoying. I was just waiting for Sawyer to kill him, becuase lets face it, who didn't already know Locke's dad was the real Sawyer and that Sawyer would kill him... of course he would. Locke wasn't as bad as he usually is, which is good. Everything else was pretty predictable. The beach story was nothing we didn't already know and it went by really slow. And who didn't know as soon as Sayid told Kate about the phone that she'd go running to Jack. *shakes head* what was he thinking.

Jonesy
05-03-2007, 12:56 AM
Excellent episode! Loved every second of it! Adventure, intrigued, new theories...and Danielle was back! :biggrin:

Really mad at Locke right now, though... :chair:

He's as bad as Ben. :furious: :frown:


Still....it all makes for a fabulous story!

Bravo Lost team! :clapping:

sarakat
05-03-2007, 12:57 AM
This episode merits a 10 from me based on Josh Holloway's performance alone. I actually teared up a bit, which is only the second time in Lost's entire run that that has happened.

Kate the tattletale was not appealing. And I can't say that I was thrilled with Locke getting someone else to do his dirty work, but I suppose it was in character for him.

Can I mention how relieved I was to hear Alpert say there is more to the Others than fertility issues?

LostLaura
05-03-2007, 12:59 AM
It was good, but it didn't blow me away. As soon as I saw Locke coming to Sawyer, I knew what it was about. I was happy to have an on-island FB, but it wasn't an exciting one like the other on-islands we've had so far. I'm getting tired of not knowing what is up with Ben. And not much was revealed about that tonight. I'm glad Cooper is dead. I hope to never see him again in a FB. I'm glad that Sawyer got to kill. And everything with Sawyer tonight touched my heart. But it was pretty predictable what would happen.

I do wonder what is up with Danielle. I like the beach stuff. Especially Skate. :biggrin: But Kate pissed me off going off to tell Jack. Dummy.

So I gave it a 7. Not bad.

xero
05-03-2007, 01:00 AM
10- Wow

jasoncountdown
05-03-2007, 01:08 AM
10. One of the two episodes this season where the FBs were even better than the fantastic present stuff (One of Us being the other one). I was stoked when Sawyer offed that bastard instead of wussing out and "learning a special lesson about how revenge doesn't make you feel better" or whatever. I like dark, disturbed Sawyer a hell of a lot more than campy, schmoopy Sawyer. Episode was good times overall.

KneedingMore
05-03-2007, 01:22 AM
I think that this was one of the best episodes ever. Can't wait for the remaining episodes. Since coming off it's break, LOST has been like a runaway train, and I'm so glad I'm along for the ride!

Dezdemona
05-03-2007, 01:40 AM
This one gets a solid 10 from me, and I'd even give it an 11 if I could. Outstanding!

* First of all, Josh Holloway was absolutely incredible.. It was only when Locke opened the door that I realized I had actually been holding my breath since Cooper started reading the letter. Sawyer's confrontation with Locke earlier, all his scenes with Cooper and his final scenes with Locke - as riveting a performance as we've ever seen in the series and I hope he gets a well-deserved Emmy nom for it. Sawyer's whole meeting with Original Sawyer was just gut-wrenching. This character could be so banal, but the writers bring layers and then Josh somehow finds a whole lot more to add to it. Most complex and fascinating character on the show. . Awesome tonight. Can't wait to see how this experience will have changed him.

* Terry O'Quinn was superb, as always. I loved the confrontation scene with Sawyer and Locke's pained admission that he couldn't kill him, he just couldn't. Such a nuanced performance from the master. However weird he gets, I always find myself pulling for Locke to find whatever destiny he's chasing. Excellent tonight.

* Ben - Michael Emerson is always a treat to watch. I was intrigued by the implication that his very speedy recovery was somehow related to Locke's proximity. Whoa.

* So glad we're getting to see more of Richard. Was his conversation with Locke orchestrated by Ben? Or does he have an agenda of his ow, as it would seem on the surface?

* Naiomi's news is fascinating. They found the plane and accounted for all the bodies? How is THAT possible?

* Jack is being obnoxious and secretive. Why doesn't he ever learn? IF, in fact, he and Juliet have some kind of plan, he should be sharing that information and plan with at least some of the Losties. It's insulting to the others how dumb he seems to think they are... hence arrogant and obnoxious. I'm guessing that whatever he's not telling affects the welfare of the others. They have a right to know, but oh no, he has to be "in control". Pfft!

* Poor, poor pitiful Kate, thinking she'd get Jack's attention again by telling tales on her fellow Losties. Kate is at her worst in connection with Jack... again.

A brilliant episode from start to finsh... dark and twisty, with a great pay-off to the Sawyer and Locke stories and some interesting developments in the Others' camp and on the beach thrown in for good measure. Can't wait to see where it's all going next!

ETA - All JMO, of course.

Baileysdad
05-03-2007, 02:09 AM
Holy cow...did I fall back to watching Season One...this was a ten all the way. Good grief. Sawyer v. Sawyer! Coop gets his just dessert..Locke back to the hunter...wow. This is going somewhere great.

DrUrbino
05-03-2007, 02:18 AM
10/10

I thought it was brilliant episode!

Sawyer is now my favorite character on the show. Once again Terry O'Quinn was brilliant and Michael Emerson always delivers. The dialogue was excellent, Ben throws "Don't tell me what I can't do" in Locke's face. He shrugs it off yet, Locke is totally playing chess with Ben. I can't wait until next week!

Dolphinjen
05-03-2007, 02:28 AM
Deserves an Emmy nomination for the acting alone.

Everything about it was fantastic. Besides Josh's extraordinary performance, (Terry's performance was intense, too, as always) the set design was something I would expect from a motion picture rather than a tv show. The forlorn Lost theme music I've come to love in the background just heightened the poignancy of an already heartbreaking storyline. I loved it!!!

The reason I did not give it a 10: I was really disappointed in the Kate/Jack/Juliet scene. It seemed even more juvenile juxtaposed with the significance and intensity of the other plot.

gano
05-03-2007, 02:33 AM
I gave it an 8. Great acting all around. So we have a creepy cultish conman conning the son of a greedy conman into conning a tortured, vengeful conman into killing the greedy conman who conned the vengeful conman's mother. Only on Lost! :cool: My heart broke for Sawyer, and I was so disappointed when he went through with killing Cooper and let himself be a pawn in Locke and Cooper's sicko love/hate dysfunction. But it's true to character. I suppose if someone let revenge fantasies drive their existence for like 30 years, they are unlikely to walk away from it when the opportunity falls into their lap.

Very interesting that most people seem to be cheering on Sawyer's eye for an eye murder, and castigating Jack for extending Juliet some kindness and the benefit of the doubt, turning the proverbial cheek. I guess I'm in the minority in that I was more annoyed with the whole "don't tell Jack" thing, as if its a foregone conclusion that a week with the Others would turn Jack into a gullible idiot and negate the fact that Jack's always tried to act in the best interest of the camp at his own detriment. Ungrateful Losties sure turn their loyalties very quickly. At least Kate still had his back. I think her faith in Jack is admirable. So shoot me. Maybe Jack is being secretive because Ben needs to be 100% certain that he is still in control of the situation before Jack and Juliet spring their plan...element of surprise and all that. And he would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that pesky Locke. Now Sawyer will "out" Juliet, and nobody will believe Jack even if Juliet is really only pretending to be the mole, and the camp will be divided, and Ben will be very happy because united we stand, divided we fall blah blah blah.

engulfthemanatee
05-03-2007, 03:06 AM
Oh my god! That was an amazing episode. Two character arcs reached their climaxes in the same episode. That was intense! And we even got some interesting answers as well...like how Cooper got to the island. This really does seem to be purgatory or some sort of afterlife, what with the plane wreckage and BODIES found as well. Maybe it's not purgatory but something having to do with the afterlife...I'm intrigued!

Kudos to all for possibly the best episode of the series yet!

Kitsume
05-03-2007, 03:14 AM
This was probably the best hour of television, excluding sports, I have ever seen.

littlegoddessdc
05-03-2007, 03:14 AM
Definitely the best episode of the season, if not the second and third season combined. The last episode was ehh, but this one was great. The only part that bugged me was Kate being so dumb.

BOBBY
05-03-2007, 03:20 AM
i really wanted to vote 9.5,
banging episode Darlton,

brandi23
05-03-2007, 03:28 AM
10 - I'm still speechless.

ukusconnection
05-03-2007, 04:03 AM
I agree, the whole Jack situation is making me very angry. He is so two-faced and carries the holier than though attitude, which is quite the contrary.

TRoss
05-03-2007, 04:55 AM
WOW. That exceeded ALL my expectations. I wasn't expecting much of Sawyer's part in this ep, since they appeared to be wrapping up one of the biggest parts of his back story in an ep that belonged to someone else. But WOW, that was fantastic. I was one of the ones that expected it would be predictable, that Sawyer wouldn't kill Cooper, that he'd "learn a special lesson" about revenge, as jasoncountdown put it, so I was SHOCKED when he went through with it, and surprisingly GLAD. All that emotion that lead up to it - how Locke primed him, and then angered him by locking him in, and then how Cooper MOCKED him and his pain . . . letting Cooper live would not have been as convincing as the path they took turned out to be.

I'm still waiting for that flashback that will show us just how much the Real Sawyer's actions affected Sawyer's life - things had to be pretty bad for him to turn his entire life toward revenge - I'm betting he didn't have any family members or counselors helping him deal with things. :(

I hated that he was used as Locke's pawn too, but I can see how Locke rationalized it. He probably thought it was a win-win situation for the both of them, but based on Sawyer's reaction AFTERWARD, boy was Locke wrong. :( Can't wait to see what this holds for the future of Sawyer's character.

And WOW - Josh Holloway's performance. :o I thought he was great before, but DAMN, that was emmy-worthy. When he had Locke on the ground, and his whole interaction with Cooper - even just his REACTIONS to Cooper's words - that's what sets a great actor apart from a merely good one - the non-verbal stuff - how much does it move the audience? How much does it tell what's in the character's mind? It was just . . . GREAT. He's always been good at using emotional looks to flesh out his character, so I was to glad he got a chance to do a really substantial emotional scene, and as much as I love his humorous, angry, and wise-cracking scenes, I hope we get to see more of the emotional side. too.


As for Locke's character - I REALLY hope he didn't do this to impress the Others, but rather to get "in" with them and learn more about the Island.

Oh, and I LOVED the Skate stuff. :biggrin: I've said it before and I'll say it again, that relationship has the makings of being something rare and special - one where you can be yourself, and still be be loved and accepted for who you are. When Sawyer or Kate make a mistake, or do something the other may not like, they may be disappointed, but they don't hold it against each other, or subject each other to emotional punishment. What more could you want than a relationship where, when you make the mistakes you most certainly will make (being human), you are not made to feel like you're not "good enough", or that you're not worth loving until you do what's "right". I sure hope they end up together in the end, but if they don't, it will have been great to watch.


I gave it an 8. Great acting all around. So we have a creepy cultish conman conning the son of a greedy conman into conning a tortured, vengeful conman into killing the greedy conman who conned the vengeful conman's mother. Only on Lost! :cool: :24:

sjb121590
05-03-2007, 07:34 AM
I've been giving Lost A LOT of 8's recently. I mean, what was supposed to be shocking wasn't (at least to me). I mean, once I realized Locke wanted Sawyer to kill Cooper, I knew at once why... that Cooper was the Sawyer that "killed" his parents. So when that was revealed, I only nodded and said, "I knew it!" And then, after Gregg Nation's "the bloodshed begins tonight", I knew that someone was gonna die, and it was obvious once we revealed it was Cooper and not Ben, who it was going to be.

I mean, I liked it, it was a good episode and all. But again, the shocking parts weren't shocking.

Zatherran
05-03-2007, 07:35 AM
excellent show.. seeing the tail section losties and how they were so comfortable with being there! did they go through the same behavoir modification?
Locke performed well.. doing what they were looking for.. He didnt kill his father, but worse still he pushed the issue to someone else to hold he guilt.. supposely keeping his hands clean. I believe that locke will besurprise and upset at his choice, he sometimes runs blind folded with his faith, and after all these lessons learned he is still putting his hand in the fire again..

slowly we are learning about the losties.. they have been on the island for 3 months, that is a long time to come to conclusion that they are not getting off the island..
they havent established a form of government everyone is still fending for themselves.
they are still strangers.

I have to say that i am disappointed in that the dont trust Jack.. seeing and witnessing all that he has done. doesnt anyone remember the poker game!

i had unfortunetly some interuptions from bad weather ( why cant they interupt during a commercial! it the weather is that bad do it then, not during lost! ) and phone calls through out the show..missing a quarter of it.. but based on what i have seen..
I give it 10.

lostlocke
05-03-2007, 08:09 AM
Fantastic. What an episode. I gave it a 9, I'm still waiting for that 10!! I can't give it a 10 because I wasn't shocked by anything. I think this was absolutely one of the best of the season.

AnalogKid
05-03-2007, 08:14 AM
This one was a 10. Terrific acting from Terry and especially Josh. I never imagined the confrontation would be that intense!
A more fitting title might have been "Two For the Price of One" or "Two Birds with One Stone" because of how both were freed from their yoke with the death of Locke's dad.

Danii832
05-03-2007, 09:01 AM
That was the best episode of lost i think i've ever seen.
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I hardly took a breath throughout the whole Sawyer/cooper thing, and it was done so well, it was incredible in my opinion. Josh Holloway is such an amazing actor, i can't quite believe how awesome his scenes were.

On the other hand, i hated kate so much in this episode, and her scene with Jack and Juliet was beyond ridiculous, but the other stuff was so good, it didn't change my overall opinion of it. The first absolute 100% ten i have ever given i think, and i wish there was a higher option!

fruitloop
05-03-2007, 09:29 AM
Loved it! Haven't given but three tens...this is one of the BEST epis ever....Josh was fantastic.....Can't understand why Kate would Tell Jack anything...she kept the med hatch a secret...but guess after Ben she had to...
Guess Kate went back to Sawyers tent a second time....threw my preception of time element but then who wouldn't:biggrin:

Dmcquickly
05-03-2007, 09:54 AM
My favourite episode ever, IMO there was nothing wrong with this episode. I pesonally would have given it a higher mark, if I could have. they should up the highest rating.

Sounds like Spinal Tap..."It goes up to 11." lol

Joshypoo
05-03-2007, 09:55 AM
This was one of those episodes where you want to rewatch it immediately. I gave it a 9 (more like a 9.9) - it was awesome and so much better than I could have imagined. Josh and Terry's scenes were the strongest performances to date. LOVED IT!

Kate731
05-03-2007, 10:21 AM
I gave this one a 10. This is probably one of my favorite episodes. It was an excellent Locke, Sawyer and Ben episode, and those are three of my favorite characters.

I had to watch it again after too. I love getting both CTV and ABC!

I agree about the Jack part. Both him and Kate are acting, well, not smart. But that was such a minor part of the episode, I don't really care, and its obviously setting up for something else. Plus, I love Juliet, so she saved the scene for me.

vangelicmonk
05-03-2007, 10:42 AM
I'm not surprised at all the 10's. However, mine was a 9. I'm probably a little greedy with my 10s. Nevertheless, great episode. I'm glad they didn't think they needed to establish some other story for Locke other than what happened with the Others flashback. Sometimes I think they push the flashbacks rather than let them come naturally. LOST is in full gear. I'm lovin' it.

billy76
05-03-2007, 10:48 AM
This was actually a really good epi!!!!

The best part had to be the Sawyer killing Sawyer scene. The chain strangling was awesome: Unpredictable, graphic, dramatic, full of emotion, vicarious (I almost felt like I was there), and everything it NEEDED to be. Wow, I was really impressed with that scene. Josh Holloway was awesome. And the guy playing Locke's dad was great too. And Locke, well, he was classic stoic Locke (in a good way).

Locke's "not anymore" line at the end of the epi was great. So many meanings to that, and as an old prof. of mine used to say: "So powerful!"

Ben is such a great part of this show. He's so complex and calculating. (So different from many of the "beach boneheads" (not that I don't like them, cuz I do, but man they're so stupid half the time!) Case in point: Kate telling Jack about the parachuter and satellite phone in front of Juliet?!?!??! Now maybe Juliet already knows about that. But come on Kate!!!! Either your really confused (will it be Sawyer or Jack tonight) or your just plain dumb.

Jack is Jack. I'm soooooo tired of him. At least many of the beachies are too.

And Danielle, what can I say about her? Just so mysterious. Why the hell was she after explosives BTW?

All in all it was a great hour (or 42 minutes) of entertainment. Vert enjoyed it too!

1LovesLost
05-03-2007, 11:02 AM
Absolutely brilliant!!!

By far the most intense episode of the series. Well written and directed, Josh Holloway is at the peak of his craft and it flows Oh so smoothly.
I havent cried over a TV show scene in ages, but tonight, even if it's wrong, you will cry for Sawyer too...

10 out of 10.

:devil1: :devil2: :dgrin: :devil: :evil: :twisted: :34853_huh: ... Are they really there?:shrug:

I totally agree, Josh was brilliant and really gained so much respect from me! :ntworthy::ntworthy::ntworthy:

DuckDodgers
05-03-2007, 11:08 AM
One of the best

agua fresca
05-03-2007, 11:16 AM
Definitely a 10. My fave episode ever. Sawyer's rage was incredible -- a great piece of acting by Josh.

GaiusKnight
05-03-2007, 11:24 AM
Personally I thought it was easily a 10 level episode. Sawyer finally acts like Sawyer, and Locke acts like Locke. The scenes were intense and the ending was satisfying. I really liked this episode. And yes, I did cheer when the real Sawyer died, though I felt a bit guilty about it later.

However, since my vote counts for my whole family, it is weighed down by the votes of the women in the house, who either didn't believe it was right for Sawyer to kill Locke's father, or was really mad at Jack fo keeping a secret with Juliet instead of Kate.

Petragrrl
05-03-2007, 11:38 AM
Oh, this episode was absolutely kick-***!!! As both a DOLT and a DIMPLE, I was in total fangirlie heaven last night! Brilliant!

I gave a 9, because the show seems to be getting better and better... and I'm definitely reserving my 10 for the finale... Yes, my expectations are THAT high!

pinkrose
05-03-2007, 11:53 AM
I really liked the episode, but for some reason I just couldn't give it a 10. It was definitely one of those ones where you don't want it to be over, and you can't wait to see what happens next. I liked that we seemed to get more answers than questions too. It was almost weird to get so many answers. Maybe that's why I only gave it a 9. :shrug:

heatherlar
05-03-2007, 12:05 PM
I really wanted to give this episode a 10, because Josh Holloway and Terry O'Quinn gave gripping performances. I settled on a 9 because I wasn't crazy about the smoke and mirrors "are we in Hell?" stuff, and I'm tiring of the Kate crap. It's becoming increasingly difficult to root for her, as much as I want to. Why on earth would she sell out her friends to share important information with someone I'm sure she still considers an enemy (Juliet) at this point? Just to get back into Jack's good graces? I'm over that storyline. JMO, of course.

As a spoiler junkie, I had already surmised that Cooper was the Original Sawyer, but that knowledge didn't dampen my enjoyment of the episode one little bit. Loved the Danielle/Locke bit. Loving Alpert. And I'm looking forward to the remaining episodes of the season!

palomino_grl78
05-03-2007, 12:14 PM
I gave it an 8. Not as good as last weeks episode but I liked the FB's better. We need more on island FB's. Plus I am really digging that Albert guy and we got to see him in this epi. Still better by far than any other thing on TV!

RamessesIX
05-03-2007, 12:26 PM
So the worst-kept secret on Lost, if not all of TV, is finally out. That sound you hear is 15 million Lost fans patting themselves on the back for being the first to dope out that Locke's father was the 'real' Sawyer. Anyway, there was a definite excitement about last night's episode, an unmistakeable vibe of Things Starting to Happen. I like to see all the characters involved, moving around like pieces on a chessboard towards an explosive endgame.

I'm going to write the rest of this under the assumption that they are not all dead and in Hell, which I think is accurate because I hardly think the writers would reveal something like that with at least a season plus to go, and how does one parachute into Hell anyway? If I'm wrong, I'm going to be very, very disappointed.

I do have to say that there was some excellent acting all around in last night's ep - the Sawyer/Locke scenes in particular were gripping, right from the first confrontation. And hey - Jack told everyone that Locke blew up the sub! Nice little tidbit that shows that the characters do communicate information offscreen. I laughed when Cooper called Ben 'bug-eye', too. And a little bit at Danielle's "What the hell did I just walk in on?" bemusement - but a woman fetching dynamite can't ask too many questions. Surreal little scene, that.

I was a bit disappointed that after waiting weeks to find out where the Others went, they basically hadn't gone anywhere interesting, and after waiting to find out why Locke had joined them, he had basically had nothing better to do. I didn't find the explanation of how Cooper got to the island very satisfying, either, especially since I'm not in favor of mystical answers to the show's mysteries.

There were also some details that bugged me and pulled me out of the narrative, such as:


Last week, Desmond was playing devil's advocate for the Others, now he won't trust Jack (whose medical expertise he needs) because he spent some time with them.
Why does Ben tell Locke about Juliet? The story would have been better served if Locke found out by accident and swiped the tape recorder for Sawyer.
Wouldn't Sayid and Hurley have the sense not to play with the sat phone in broad daylight where anyone can wander by, if they want to keep it a secret?
Kate doesn't trust Jack, either - why does she run right to him with the news, after being asked not to? Just to make a point? "Telephone, telegraph, tell a girl..."
She ought to be the last person concerned about being rescued, anyway. She, of all people, should be on Locke's side.


And was it me, or did Locke and Ben not quite have the chemistry they did a few episodes ago? (Except maybe for Ben's "When you showed up, I felt pins and needles" line - and I'm not going near that one, kids.) Most of it was Ben behaving like a brat and a bully rather than the master manipulator of old. (He did get an "Oooh, I hate him, I wish Jack had killed him" from my wife, which seems like a compliment to me.) "Don't tell me what I can't do, John", though, now that was a killer line.

To be fair, there were several great moments, too, including Jack challenging Charlie because he knows the latter can't lie convincingly, the Locke/Danielle scene, Richard recommending an understudy (hmm...was he part of the "some of us" mentioned in Juliet's INXS video?) and all of the Locke/Sawyer conversations. Not to mention Sawyer's confrontation with Cooper, which hit every note. I'm starting to like Sawyer again, just a little, which means he's due to do something selfish and nasty.

It's sure got me pumped for next week, and that's no small praise. 8/10.

MontanaLost
05-03-2007, 12:30 PM
This was a 10 for me, easy. I'd have given it a 14 if I could. :)

I always read as many spoilers as possible before an episode because I just can't stand to wait, but with Locke being my favorite character, I unsubscribed from all spoiler threads and didn't even let myself watch previews this week because I wanted it all to be really surprising when I watched. I was soooooo not let down. I'm re-watching it this morning on abc.com and am just entranced by ever aspect of it. I may try and go spoiler free for the rest of the season and see what that does for me!

opes
05-03-2007, 01:21 PM
Best Eppy Ever.

Nothing bad about it.

realityaxe
05-03-2007, 01:37 PM
AMAZING EPISODE!
Aside from Kate being rather childish, it was a complete super homerun of an episode!

ngibarra
05-03-2007, 01:54 PM
I thought it was a great episode, it pissed me off though when Kate told Jack after Sayid told her not to tell anyone about it. How can anyone trust her? All she does is run off and tell Jack everything. Unbelievable.

But besides that, GREAT EPISODE!

desmondslosthairstraighteners
05-03-2007, 02:05 PM
Yeh great episode 9/10, great acting from both Sawyer and Locke, and it's nice to see things stirring up at the camp. Things stopping me from giving it a 10 were:

*Would have been much better if throughout this season and last season they wouldn't of made it so blatantly obvious Locke's dad was the real Sawyer, i don't read spoilers and i don't watch previews but i've known this for a long time, and i'm sure millions of others did - the scene would have been better as a surprise.

*The Sawyer vs Sawyer scene seemed a little...underwhelming. Great scene, i thought the murder was handled well, the chain was great, but it just felt like the writers made Locke's dad act like a complete arse to make Sawyer's murder more justifiable. Any man tied to a chair, facing one of his tragic victims from his past would plead for his life, not rip up a letter - the very foundation of Sawyer's revenge quest. If they would have shown it like it should have been showed, with Locke's dad pleading for his life and Sawyer still taking it due to overwhelming hatred it would have made Sawyer seem inhumane, and we can't upset our Sawyer fangirls now can we? (They should have though) - I think back to the Ben/Sayid torture scene last season and it was a lot more intense and gripping, it was superior.

*On island flashbacks are usually great but this was a little stale...

One of the best episodes of the season, but i thought The Man from Tallahassee was better, the chemistry and dialog between characters in that episode was greater. I didn't really like Ben all that much in this ep either.

IslandChaplain
05-03-2007, 02:46 PM
I am pleased to see so many people loved it like I did. I think the entire second half of this season has been progessively topping itself, and this was no exception.

***mod edit*** This ep was great television.

The only thing that I didn't like, but don't confuse that for bad tv, I just didn't like the development, was that Jack was being so indifferent to the thoughts of the other islanders. Juliet is a freaking spy! WAKE UP BOYEEEE!

I enjoyed that Locke's dad thought the place was Hell, and that he was nebulous about the answer. Here we go!!!

AMEN
IC

xpetri
05-03-2007, 03:02 PM
a 10 episode. easy 10. go watch Heroes jump the shark if you rate this 1.

Lockefan
05-03-2007, 03:26 PM
I have been a complete and utter broken record since the end of the hiatus, and here I go again, I have no choice whatsoever: another perfect 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's all I can say. I'm just too blown away by the stunningness of it all. TEN!

Tiny Time Machine
05-03-2007, 03:45 PM
I gave this one an eight.

For me, this episode was exciting and moving and well-acted. The reason I didn't rate it higher was because of the overwhelming sense of missed opportunity I felt as the episode ended. Namely in James 'Sawyer' Ford discovering the original Sawyer and killing him.

Don't get me wrong, I thought Josh Holloway performed these few short scenes spectacularly, the guy playing Anthony Cooper was great, the use of the Black Rock for location was inspired (loved that moody lighting), but it could have been so. much. more.

Sawyer has spent his entire life searching for this man. He's focused on it so much that he practically became this man. Every fibre of his being, his self-loathing, his life, rings with the name Sawyer. Where was the release that came with killing this man? There was a reaction there, for sure, but was it any greater than the reaction he gave when he slept with Kate? When he killed Frank Duckett? When Ana-Lucia died? I don't think it was.

In a season that has enough free screen time to spend an hour killing Paulo and Nikki, an episode on Jack's tattoos, an episode on the beach boys fixing a Dharma van, it seems a little unbalanced and underwhelming that the pay-off for the very first and most important thing we ever learned about Sawyer was handled in three (albeit good) scenes. This revelation and payoff was the sort of story that, if handled well enough, could have been the defining moment of the season. I wish it had been.

I've been saying ever since 'The Man From Tallehassee' that once Sawyer learns that Anthony Cooper is the real Sawyer and is on the island that his final days on the island (and the show) will have begun. I expected him to go out in a blaze of glory that would shake the Lost-loving audience to its core. I still think he'll be dead be the season's end now he's gotten his girl and killed his nemisis, but I don't think it will be as satisfying.

Aside from that though, I really did like this episode. Great performances by all, some of the scenes tonight really did feel (to me) season one quality.

Team Taskmaster
05-03-2007, 04:37 PM
It was good, certainly, but with all the hype...I guess it was just a little obvious what was going to happen. All that remained was waiting for Sawyer to finish the deed. I guess I'm just a little sick of Needy and Bad Decision Making Brigade. I know Ben is a master manipulator, but anyone could succeed with a guy like Locke. Where's Season One Locke? We miss him! Ditto for Kate.
We gave it 8/10.

erin1679
05-03-2007, 05:19 PM
I gave it a 10!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVED it! It was dark, scary, thought-provoking, heartbreaking, and kept me guessing the whole time. It took me 3 hours to fall asleep last night (and I am rewatching it right n ow!)

addicted2much
05-03-2007, 06:44 PM
I gave it a 10.
Wonderful performances from Josh, Terry , and Kevin.

LostMyMarbles
05-03-2007, 07:25 PM
This is the first 10 I've ever given. I could always find something wrong with an episode, even the ones that blew me away.

I hadn't expected Sawyer to kill Cooper. I can't wait to see what the ramifications will be on Sawyer's character. Locke is absolutely amoral and totally fascinating. Kate is a one-woman disaster. Loved Desmond's happiness when he saw Sayid had been included in their secret, and everyone's sneaking around so Jack wouldn't find out. Can't wait to see the Jack-and-Juliet "plan" or Sawyer's revelation of the pregnancy obsession and the coming raid. Can't wait to see what Naomi adds to the group. Don't have the faintest idea where they're going with this "dead" concept--that totally threw me for a loop and I think it's a fakeout, but I have no idea what the explanation is.

I expect the rest of the season to be a 100-mile-an-hour roller coaster and I'm along for the ride!

lostgurl
05-03-2007, 07:52 PM
Loved every second of it.. I'm giving it a 10.
I love that Jack is sticking to his guns for a change. He's ticking some people off and I love it. He'll come through in the end I've no doubt. Sawyer, Locke, Ben, and Alpert were amazing. Oh, and Cooper is a bastard.

OldWiz
05-03-2007, 08:08 PM
My first 10! Josh showed his chops here and so did the little bug-eyed bastard. I'm really hating him, but M.E. is great!

Oldwiz

Dezdemona
05-03-2007, 08:32 PM
My first 10! Josh showed his chops here and so did the little bug-eyed model student. I'm really hating him, but M.E. is great!

Oldwiz

Bravo! I've been hoping you'd give this one a 10. Kudos to Josh, Terry and Michael E. - and to Damon and Carlton - for earning it. :biggrin:

kadayi_polokov
05-03-2007, 08:39 PM
9

Great as it was to see Sawyer and Locke deal with their demon, the idiocy of Kate and Jack made this far from perfect.

jheri
05-03-2007, 08:44 PM
10 all the way. Even though early in the episode I figured that it wasn't Ben that Locke had captive and that Locke's father was indeed the Sawyer that James (Sawyer) Ford had been looking for, I still found James Ford's reaction and eventual action overwhelming. I really loved this episode as I keep saying this season just keeps getting better and better. I just wanted more.

Ethanrules
05-03-2007, 08:51 PM
9/10


This is the only epiosde of Lost that has, after watching the episode, left me not sure what I thought about the episode. I felt like I was watching something different then Lost. Now lets just say that Lost was a book and Season 3 was Part 3. I felt if someone read it,the beginning of the chapter entitled The Brig would start out with something like this: "Now,before we get to the end of Part 3,there is one more stary we have to tell."


The Brig revolved around my favorite characters on Lost, Locke and Sawyer. The interaction between these two actors was brilllant. As always,the banter between Locke and Ben was great. The two people who really came out in this episode were Nester Carbonell as Richard Alpert and Kevin Tighe as Anthony Cooper. Richard's talk with Locke about Sawyer was n one word brillant. Cooper also appeled to me when he stood up to Ben at the totem pole. I was waiting for someone to call him Bug-eyed!


The parts at the Black Rock were very engaging. I wonder why Danielle wanted the dynamte? My favorite scene by far was Sawyer and Locke going their seperate ways. When Locke put Cooper over his shoulders,I had a funny thought. Togther at last.

Melissa
05-04-2007, 01:14 AM
I gave it a 10. It was fast paced, emotional, and dark. Loved James and Sawyer interactions. Can't wait to see what Jack and Juliet are up to.

CorpseFX
05-04-2007, 03:43 AM
finally the momentum picks up after 5 episodes of near boredom.
Locke is the catalyst of the show, hands down.
without him this show holds little to no esoteric value or execution.
i gave it an 8 and finally look forward to next weeks somewhat.
too bad we'll have to way almost a year starting soon haha

Serafina
05-04-2007, 07:43 AM
I'd love to give this a 10, but the Kate and Jack scenes just took the edge off of it for me, so instead I'll rate it a very high and very well deserved 9.

The story, pace, direction, atmosphere and acting were all fantastic, and it's one of those episodes I think you can watch repeatedly without looking at your watch or reaching for the fast forward button when certain scenes come on.

Slowboat
05-04-2007, 10:14 AM
I don't do this often but this episode gets 10 from me.

baldlocke
05-04-2007, 10:20 AM
I gave it no more than a 6, not bad but it didn't blow me away:undecide:
Predictable outcome of the Sawyer/Cooper encounter; what is more, the finding of the plane and the Losties' bodies now smells like conspiracy (Dharma?Hanso?Widmore?) and the halo of mystery surrounding it (that after "DOC" led us to appealing theories like different timelines, parallel universes related to the "LostTime"...) almost vanished... anyway in Lost you never know...let's see what happens, I'm still positive!

Mr. Find
05-04-2007, 02:16 PM
The Locke/Sawyer story was a 9. The 'lets not tell Jack" story was a 6. Overall, the episode was very good.

The preview was a 10. I hope I am not setting my self up for a letdown, because it got me very psyched for the remaining 3 episodes.

frankness
05-04-2007, 05:10 PM
I rated it an 8. Josh Holloway's acting is worth a 10 and nothing less and Terry was very good too, but the things happening on the beach were a bit predictable and slowed the fast pace down a bit.

I've been impressed with season 3 in general so far but this episode definitely was one of the best so far.

Maxum
05-04-2007, 05:40 PM
The episode was good, and both Josh and Terry were great. Also, the rest of the characters involved, Cooper, Ben, Richard, etc., were all really well played. The end result was a bit predictable, but it didn't take away from the emotional moments. I mean, we were all waiting for this to come at some point. Although, all the murdering of people is not making the Losties look much better than the Others. This is two for two for both Locke and Sawyer.

I am intrigued more and more with the Juliet and Jack dynamic - not as a couple, but that there is obviously something afoot. Clearly Jack DOES have a plan, and he hasn't been duped by Juliet. I could care less that he was rude or dismissive to Kate. Heck, Locke and Sawyer can murder a man, and its all cheers, bells, and whistles, but Jack is rude and he's in the dog house. :rolleyes: I'm sure it will be revealed why Jack has chosen to stay silent or appear aloof to the rest of the Losties. There is much more to what happened to him, imho, than what viewers know yet.

Each episode has been building and building upon the next, and I think the writers have done a good job of adding to the suspense. I can't wait for the next episode to unfold.

Baileysdad
05-04-2007, 06:26 PM
I am amazed at how many 7's and up this epi recieved.

I think there is no mystery that a Locke centric episode is GOLD.

Maxum
05-04-2007, 06:34 PM
I am amazed at how many 7's and up this epi recieved.

I think there is no mystery that a Locke centric episode is GOLD.

I think it's more about a well-crafted and well executed story, as well as fantastic characters - not just one. The episodes have been building, each better than the last. I have high hopes for the remaining ones and the season ender.

Bad_Robot
05-04-2007, 06:37 PM
I gave it a 9. It was a terrific surprise and a Locke episode is always good in my book. :) Sawyer was great too in it.

That ruled!

Distress Signal
05-04-2007, 06:38 PM
Locke, being the fascinatingly written character he is, tends to draw better executed plots and progression in the story in his episodes. It's just the way it is. Except for Further Instructions, which I think almost everybody likes to forget happened. ;)




Not only were Josh and Terry great, but so were Michael, Kevin Tighe, the Naomi chick and the rest of the cast. Especially the first 4 though.

Fuyuko
05-04-2007, 08:12 PM
My favorite epi this season. I loved the lack of off-island flashbacks! I was on the edge of my seat!

Talon
05-04-2007, 11:18 PM
I gave this episode a ten rating, but it was really about a 9.5. The only reason it did not get a true 10 was because the full ensemble cast was not working together in an explosive episode- perhaps the season finale will be like that.

This episode was the absolute best of season 3 thus far, and I was extremely happy with how it turned out. Josh gave an amazing performance, and Sawyer is set-up to perhaps play a bigger part in the mythology of the show.

Kate is getting irritating, Jack continues to be arrogant and self-righteous, and Locke is becoming more manipulative.

So much to look forward to as this season comes to a close. The Locke/Sawyer scenes, as well as the Sawyer/Sawyer scenes, will be considered classics of the show by the series' end. I was so pumped up Wednesday night, lol...

Ripper
05-04-2007, 11:52 PM
10! This was amazing, I'm not one for killing in cold blood, but Cooper was such an a$$ that he needed it to happen and I guess he thought he needed the punishment too since he believed he was in Hell. Holloway was fantastic as was the directing, O'Quinn is always great. What is Locke up to? Jack continues to be STRANGE. So Good!

flashbackfan
05-05-2007, 12:35 AM
I loved it and gave it a 9. Josh was amazing, don't think I've ever seen him do so well before. The scenes between him and the real Sawyer were just spine chillingly good!

ESP
05-05-2007, 03:19 PM
Best episode of the series - solid 100/10! loved it.:) :) The actors were on top form !! and looked real good:biggrin:

talliann
05-05-2007, 11:43 PM
I rated it 9.

Passport
05-06-2007, 04:27 AM
'The Brig' - 7/10

My rating may seem a little harsh for this episode but let me explain. I was really annoyed by the timeline inconsistancies in this episode, Kate tells Jack that Naomi parachuted onto the island yesterday - but it was three days ago. Kate is still the most annoying character on the island!
I really hope that TPTB are going somewhere with the appearences of Cindy.
I felt that something didn't gel with the episode though and while I appreciate that this was a very good episode it seemed very self contained - due to the nature of the flashbacks; and therefore killed the momentum of Naomi's discovery (etc) slightly.

JeremyBender
05-07-2007, 08:04 PM
A 9 out of 10. It's been pretty obvious since Deus ex Machina that Anthony Cooper = Mr. Sawyer, but the way he mocked James by tearing up his letter was classic. James blowing chunks afterwards was pretty cool too! :) Loved the Ben/John scenes, love Richard Alpert too.

I also love the way that TPTB are mocking the "they're dead, no they're in purgatory" nonsense, more of that please. :)

irish lost fan
05-08-2007, 05:17 AM
10/10 although I should have voted it 9. Loved everything about this episode except for Kate and Jack. They are getting more annoying as time goes on.
Great mini cliff hanger too.. can't wait for next week.

Pythagoras99
05-09-2007, 02:46 PM
Since it hasn't been mentioned, another stroke of genius was Naomi's line, "What was your name? Sayid? Remind me not to rescue you, Sayid." WOW! Mr. Republican Guard Interrogator has finally met his match! I sense love in the air!

Hopefully in the next episode we'll get an adequate explanation for Jack's insane behavior.

Grasshopper
05-09-2007, 03:56 PM
Good for a Locke flasback liked Sawyer in it and Jin and Hurley were hilarious as usual really good how it ended i really wanna to know whats going on with Jack and Juliet

redmaria
05-17-2007, 03:48 PM
i gave it a 9,not because i didnt absolutely love it ,and wasnt thrown away by James and John's dynamic duo,but because i usually reserve 10s for life changing epis such as Man Of Science Man of Faith.
thanks Darlton,this was pure Lost
100%
Since it hasn't been mentioned, another stroke of genius was Naomi's line, "What was your name? Sayid? Remind me not to rescue you, Sayid." WOW! Mr. Republican Guard Interrogator has finally met his match! I sense love in the air!

Hopefully in the next episode we'll get an adequate explanation for Jack's insane behavior.
haha,yeah me too!they go much better together than Shannon and Sayid did!go NA-OH-MI

Porochaz
05-26-2007, 07:02 AM
Gave it a 9, a great episode in the present the Lockeback was slightly dissapointing but overall good

hakwam
05-26-2007, 07:29 PM
good episode:)

kerrixx1
06-12-2007, 07:24 PM
Wow. DARK episode. I was speechless afterwards. Ben's such an a-hole. Sawyer really got used here. I wonder if Locke really feels that he did a good thing by having Sawyer handle that for him?

swordgirl
07-10-2007, 02:32 AM
one of best episodes on Lost. heartwrech and thrill. Great performance for Josh and Terry. But i hate Kate and Jack behavior. stupid + idiot

freckles_shephard
07-22-2007, 08:40 AM
I gave it a 9, every point of that towards Josh's performance, he was just truely amazing. Locke is the only reason I didnt give it a full ten. :mad:

vertigo
12-28-2007, 01:00 AM
I figure I'll post here having just seen it again. A definite 10/10 for me once more. I wasn't a member of The Fuselage back when this thing aired but I wrote a comment on IMDb so here goes:

One of the best, not just this season, but for the series' entire run. Anybody who has written anything will know how hard it is to juggle so many story lines and keep it entertaining for the reader and viewer. Well, I tip my hat off to Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof for proving both their immense talents with this spectacular, spellbinding hour of entertainment.

While casual viewers might have enjoyed the fast moving, high energy episode last night, those who enjoyed it the most were undoubtedly the show's most loyal fans. With many claiming that the show has 'lost' its mystery and intrigue, the writers were under pressure to produce something more interesting (as if the show wasn't interesting already), and with "The Brig" they have shown that they can step up and create something so good even the most demanding fans simply have to be satisfied.

What made this episode special was that while more mysteries were created, more cryptic answers were given, and the story of that damn island taken further, it was in fact the interaction between the characters that was the best part of it all. "The Brig" was about the confused, angry two men we know as John Locke and Sawyer. Naomi adds further intrigue to the tale by providing some shocking information.

Much credit is due to director Eric Laneuville for getting such great performances out of his cast, especially Terry O'Quinn, Josh Holloway, and Michael Emerson. What a great episode. If the rest of the season can be half as good as this, myself and many others will be very, very happy and frustrated people.

Letter Grade: A+

RipperJack
01-08-2008, 06:38 PM
Loved it!!! Who could have seen that Cooper was the one responsible for the death of Sawyers parents. If I was in Sawyers position i would have killed the old bastard too. Even in the face of death he is still arrogant and soulless.

I wanted to punch through my tv.

thelizinator297
01-13-2008, 04:43 PM
Interesting dynamics between Sawyer/Locke/Locke's father. That was an intense, well done and well acted scene, but so was the stuff between Locke and the others (Richard looks like he wears eyeliner). I felt like Jack was being kind of a jerk to Kate when he was all, "You can say anything in front of Juliet." Grrr. But the dynamics with the Losties and the girl from the helicopter were way interesting, and I can't wait to see what's next!