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WOW! Once again, 10 minutes of show stuffed into a full 45 minutes! Tune in for the last 5 mintues and you'll be caught up for the next episode.


One of Lost's trademarks is it's moronic characters. I know, I know... some people think it's the flashbacks but no, it's the island morons. In every episode the characters behave like morons and the extent of their stupidity depends on the plot that TPTB need them to serve.

Sun tries making a deal with her father. If he gives her the money, she'll keep pretending everything is fine and ignore what he really does. But her father puts the money on the table and says if she takes it, Jin will work for him. Sun, proving she was also a moron before she landed on the island, obviously agrees as she takes the money. So Sun takes the money to save Jin from shame but sentences him to be involved with her father's immoral and criminal activities. Nice going moron!

Sun actually tries to demand some answers from Juliet but of course before she can get all of her answers, Kate pulls Sun away. Then Sun, reverting to Lost's standard moron-mode, never asks Juliet the questions again. Moron.

Charlie believes that by letting Mikhail go he will return tomorrow "with 5 of his mates". Charlie obviously forgets that they have been living unprotected on the beach for the last 3 months where they could be attacked or killed by the Others at any time. Please die already Charlie. We could use one less moron on the show.

And enough of this "I gave my word" crap. They let Mikhail go because Sayid gave his word? Lame. Give your word, have him help the parachute woman and then beat some answers out of him. Any time these idiots come face to face with someone that has anwers they either don't ask, accept a "mysterious" non-answer, or let the person go (remember Carl anyone?). Have I mentioned these people are morons?

weak....i should've watched the soprano's rerun. :frown:

If only there was some Jack Kate scenees. :frown:

This late in the season, and we get what is essentially a filler. It's episodes like this that are driving fans away...instead of moving forward plotlines, they go sideways and drop even more questions/mysteries on us.

I'm betting that after having the spotlight for 2 episodes, we won't even see the camping party next weeks, which means, shockingly, Parachute girl will get yet another reprieve from having to answer any questions.

The flashbacks have got to go. So Sun was on flight 815 because she was leaving Jin cause she didn't like what he had become while working for her father, now we see Sun was responsible for Jin having the job in the first place. Way to stand by your man.

People are shocked that Sun has only 2 months to live? Newsflash...the last 3 seasons have only covered 90 days....Sun will live to see the end of the 5th season, if there are any viewers left watching.

Well, that was a waste of time.

So Sun was on flight 815 because she was leaving Jin cause she didn't like what he had become while working for her father, now we see Sun was responsible for Jin having the job in the first place. Way to stand by your man.

THANK YOU!

Now I guess I'm supposed to suspect Jack and not trust him because the island morons don't so surprise, surprise it'll turn out they're wrong... but we already know that bcause Ben told Juliet that Jack trusts her and she should tell him she'll save Claire. Obviously, they didn't let Jack in their plan, they're just using him. So so much for that. The part about Sun getting all suspicious of him was lame too since he didn't ask any questions a doctor who also just found out pregnant women die on this island wouldn't ask.

And can someone please explain to me why the outside world WOULDN'T presume the losties are dead? Didn't pieces of the plane fall into the ocean anyway? Didn't they burn the bodies in the fuselage? Once those were found with no survivors (another logical assumption, since that tends to happen in the middle of the Pacific) why wouldn't everyone be presumed dead? Why is that chick supposed to blow my mind with that piece of info?

Here are some things I didn't love.

When Sun found out the baby was conceived by Jin, she acted as if it suddenly erased the fact that she cheated on him to begin with. Just because this baby was created by one of Jin's magic sperm doesn't mean Jae's weren't also floating around in there at one time or another. How awful! Look around, Sun. At this point, it doesn't matter whose baby it is. It matters that NOW you and your magic baby are going to die. And Jin will be left alone. But OK... let's rejoice because... Jin's sperm were more successful than Jae's... the man you had an affair with, remember?!!!

And now... as much as I sometimes despise the A Team, this episode definitely showed us what makes them the A Team. Desmond, Charlie and Hurley? Suck. I lost a lot of respect for Desmond. It looks like next week, he tries to go behind Jack's back, but after witnessing what happened in the jungle, I would not follow him anywhere. This group of weenies is really pathetic. Like worse than "I want my kidney back" pathetic. It seems that only Jin has a working brain (perhaps a side effect from all the extra magic sperm!!!) because at least he appeared to want to apprehend Mikhail. Too bad he is conveniently the one that can't argue his case.

And... that is all I have to complain about... because... what else happened?

I didn't even watch the episode I was so uninspired by Insider Scoops spoiler.

I taped it in case everyone loved it, but honestly I am really pissed about this episode because the "BIG reveal" at the end of the episode.

How that is a Big reveal, and why my head should be spinning after that I have NO idea! I am seriously ticked off by this cause there are going to be pages and pages of discussions over what Naomi meant and if the Losties are in fact all dead, or if the Others somehow recreated the crash far away from the island. And then we are not going to get any clarification on what she said for a while and then they will casually slip in that what she was saying was they found part of the plane and came to the obvious conclusion that everyone died on impact....

So I am going to be pissed by this until they reveal that there was another plane set up somewhere else to keep people from finding the island OR that they found the plane and everyone's bodies.

Oh and I will be even MORE pissed if it just turns out she is working for the Others and is lying....

....At this point, it doesn't matter whose baby it is. It matters that NOW you and your magic baby are going to die.


Good points. I also wonder if Sun and her baby's impending death on the island will spur any sense of urgency to get off the damn island... not that these morons HAVE EVER put much time or effort into trying to escape or be rescued. Which is odd considering the basic premise of this show is people marooned on a dangerous island.




It seems that only Jin has a working brain (perhaps a side effect from all the extra magic sperm!!!) because at least he appeared to want to apprehend Mikhail. Too bad he is conveniently the one that can't argue his case.


Jin can understand and speak English when TPTB need him to understand and speak English.

I am so frustrated... I don't know how they really thought they could get away with another filler episode.

First, that guy Mikhail is dead, I don’t care really that the island can ‘cure’ people; you can’t cure someone whose brain was fried with electromagnetic static.

Second, why does Sun trust Juliette? What a moron! Oh, the baby is Jin’s but I am going to die… annoying. And the flashback… seriously, it is so boring. Oh, my family shame oh, my father is a fisherman, get over it already!

Third, ‘there were no survivors on that plan crash’… Yes, I just got a punctured lung and now I remember those 3 seconds on CNN when they said that and I even remember the flight number and everything! WOW!!

Also, I really don’t like the whole ‘they are all dead’ theory… It does not fit, and you know that in the end they are never going to address this issue again until season 7 and by then, who knows who will be watching?

UGH!

Oh, I would also like to add something about the magic sperm. So is the plan to get the one remaining female cast member (Kate) pregnant as well? I mean, it seems like there's a reasonably good chance that she may have gotten pregant by Sawyer. So... seriously? Is that what women have become on this show? Even the main characters? Merely science projects? This storyline is lame. And I'm disappointed because it seems like a "biggie." Is this why they killed off Shannon, Ana Lucia, and Libby? So they wouldn't have to deal with three extra pregnant women?

Is that what women have become on this show? Even the main characters? Merely science projects? This storyline is lame.

I totally agree, the whole show will now revolve around fertility and babies and stuff? As much as I should be interested in this (because I am pregnant right now) it is a totally lame story! I want the monster and mystery of the island back and I want them to start actually trying to figure out how to get off the stupid island!! aaaaaaaaaa

I am completely frustrated. We were promised a string of episodes full of revelations. We were also promised a "game changer" bomb "shortly after the break." It has all proved to be nonsense. We are getting banal flashbacks and little to no advancement of the on-island plot.

So... seriously? Is that what women have become on this show? Even the main characters? Merely science projects?

Well, it does have the added benefit of giving them the chance to show Kate strip in front of Sawyer every five episodes or so. All in the name of science.

Meh episode, I didn't care anymore than I cared last week. 90% filler.

Good catch on the Sun inconsistencies, but I don't really expect more than that because characterization isn't their strong suit anymore. The young woman who was suffering because her husband had become a cold-hearted goon who came home with blood on his hands... gone. Sun must be amnesic. I'm sure that's it.

I'm mildly amused by Patchy's nondeath more than anything because a good rule of thumb with the writers is to take each statement, turn it upside down and go from there. Sure, the island cured his fried brain, but not Shannon's asthma or good ole gunshots.

I kinda like Charlie again, which means they're probably going to kill him.

WOW! Once again, 10 minutes of show stuffed into a full 45 minutes! Tune in for the last 5 mintues and you'll be caught up for the next episode.
colin72, you took the words right out of my mouth. On the one hand, I really like the characters (yes, nowawdays even more than the "The Triangle" -- not much of a stretch as of late), but what we learn in the flashbacks seems to have little to do with what is at hand. If you really think about it, the plot barely advanced, we learned very little new relevant information.
Just about anyone who's ever taken a screenwriting class has been warned against 1) relying on flashbacks to tell your story and 2) wasting valuable screen time on anything that doesn't further your story. I think the writers of Lost are good writers, but for whatever reason they continue to use the flashback crutch and write in all this filler, and it irks me to no end.

Where to start...

Well, I'd say Sun's character is pretty well destroyed now. Last week I felt they ruined anything decent left about Kate and pushed Desmond almost to the end of that same road. This week it's Sun. The new fact that she personally put Jin in the position to become what he did makes her later actions make no sense. What is this new trend of going back and revising (ruining) what were originally decent flashback storylines?

They let Mikhail go?! Even after he tried to steal the phone?! I can't say I found that shocking given these characters past actions, but I just can't see any possible way that makes sense. Desmond's excuse of needing everyone to help with the parachutist doesn't work. You only need two people to carry a stretcher. That leaves two to deal with the prisoner. What's the problem?

The acting even got to me in this episode. The last two seasons have done a lot of dragging out scenes with very little content, but this episode takes the cake. Every scene with Sun and Juliet completely... and utterly... overdid.. the.. ... ... DRAMATIC PAUSE! Spit it out already! It's not heightening the tension when you stop like that, it's killing it! It's painful too because I know they are both good actresses and know better than that. I know someone told them to do their lines that way. They should have rebelled!

I don't post very often, but I've been hanging around this site since the middle of season 2 and I used to really enjoy reading other people's insights on what was going on on the island and the deeper meanings involved. It's becoming less that way as more and more crackpot theories are encouraged by the ever more convoluted plotline. I cringed after Desmond's time travel episode because I knew that would become an explanation for every twist in the plot in the future, "It's a Time Loop, has to be!" Then it got even worse after Locke's next episode, "Ben can just use his Magic Box, and make whatever he wants!" Now with the bit about "Flight 815 was found with no survivors", the purgatory theme has even been resurrected! This site is rife with every hare-brained scheme anyone can come up with. It's very sad.

colin72, you took the words right out of my mouth. On the one hand, I really like the characters (yes, nowawdays even more than the "The Triangle" -- not much of a stretch as of late), but what we learn in the flashbacks seems to have little to do with what is at hand. If you really think about it, the plot barely advanced, we learned very little new relevant information.
Just about anyone who's ever taken a screenwriting class has been warned against 1) relying on flashbacks to tell your story and 2) wasting valuable screen time on anything that doesn't further your story. I think the writers of Lost are good writers, but for whatever reason they continue to use the flashback crutch and write in all this filler, and it irks me to no end.


This episode exhibits many of Lost's problems. There are many ways that TPTB have failed with this show. I believe that from the start they had basic ideas planned out of where they wanted to go but they are failing trying to get there. The pacing, consistancy and the way they handle the characters is horrible. They insist on sticking with the flashbacks in every episode and seem to devote the same amount of time to flashbacks in each episode.

This episode and this season as a whole shows that they simply do not have enough story to tell to justify all these episodes. I would much rather have had 2 seasons of an incredible show than 4 seasons of a plodding, mediocre bore.

colin72, you took the words right out of my mouth. On the one hand, I really like the characters (yes, nowawdays even more than the "The Triangle" -- not much of a stretch as of late), but what we learn in the flashbacks seems to have little to do with what is at hand. If you really think about it, the plot barely advanced, we learned very little new relevant information.
Just about anyone who's ever taken a screenwriting class has been warned against 1) relying on flashbacks to tell your story and 2) wasting valuable screen time on anything that doesn't further your story. I think the writers of Lost are good writers, but for whatever reason they continue to use the flashback crutch and write in all this filler, and it irks me to no end.


Well, to be fair to the writers the concept of the show relies on flashbacks. There will be
a flashback almost every episode. It's part of the series. They aren't going to abandon
that. Despite what your professor told you, it can sometimes work to great effect. One
example is the movie "Memento", but there are others.


I agree that a lot of screen time is wasted, but that's what happens when you get a
big budget and don't have the plot to justify it. "Lost" is paced like a weekly soap
opera. If it aired 5x per week, like a soap opera, this pacing wouldn't be so bad.

The last two episodes have brought the plot to a stand-still!

First an entire episode devoted to showing the Losties finding the parachutist, then an entire episode devoted to healing the parachutist, and I'm sure it'll take another whole episode just to bring the parachutist back to the camp. And we'll get to see every moment of it. :mad:

Oh, we also found out Jin was the father. Meh. I agree with you, MrsArtist, with the focus on fertility it's like TPTB are trying to turn the show into a medical drama. Remember the mysterious island they used to be on?

Why on earth would Sun go with Juliet anyway? Sun knows Juliet is an Other, and now the "former" Other wants her to join her on a jungle trek, and no one else must know about it! Nothing suspicious there!

First an entire episode devoted to showing the Losties finding the parachutist, then an entire episode devoted to healing the parachutist, and I'm sure it'll take another whole episode just to bring the parachutist back to the camp. And we'll get to see every moment of it. :mad:

See, if we think back to how long it took for us to discover the hatch, talk about opening the hatch, blowing up the hatch door, going into the hatch, finding out what the hatch was then ultimately blow it up to discard with a plot that became stale and and a bit of a dead end, this is nothing new. However, the hatch was mysterious and interesting, much more so than the parachutist. Or maybe it's just me because I don't really care anymore.

Why on earth would Sun go with Juliet anyway? Sun knows Juliet is an Other, and now the "former" Other wants her to join her on a jungle trek, and no one else must know about it! Nothing suspicious there!

Although she is suspicious of Jack because he brought Juliet into the camp and spent over a week with them. She's just not suspicious enough of them apparently.

The parachutist speaking in tongues even though she speaks better English than Hurley and Desmond letting Mikhail go (we don't need no stinking answers!) were just a couple of lame attempts to stall the plot.

Why on earth would Sun go with Juliet anyway? Sun knows Juliet is an Other, and now the "former" Other wants her to join her on a jungle trek, and no one else must know about it! Nothing suspicious there!
Yeah, lame. I was waiting for Sun to at least TRY to bring Kate along... or someone. (I guess she couldn't bring Claire because then who, if not Sun, would watch Aaron?!)

What I didn't like about the episode:

- Sun responsible for Jin's life of crime, yet we've seen in other flashbacks that she blames him entirely - nonsensical writing!!!

- Sun follows Juliet into the jungle like a freaking moron

- Juliet says that 9 other women have died. With Colleen that makes 10. Yet she told Jack earlier in the series that as a fertility doctor she is not used to death. I don't believe that at that point the writers would have said that Juliet had seen 9 other deaths, I don't believe that had it planned. maybe I am wrong.

- / + good and bad seeing Patchy back. Love the dude, glad to see him. They better have a bloody good reason for it though

Why on earth would Sun go with Juliet anyway? Sun knows Juliet is an Other, and now the "former" Other wants her to join her on a jungle trek, and no one else must know about it! Nothing suspicious there!

Yup, that grated on me. Is anyone watching Juliet? You may want to keep her from guiding the pregnant woman into the woods.

And the triumphant return of Patchy! I was hoping La Chupacabra would burst through the foliage, but no go. Then the morons let him saunter away, even though death doesn't seem to hold him back much. Why not have Jin use some quick, cool hitman death strike - then Hurley can say something like "See you next week, Russian dude".

That was a snoozer and loser of an eppy. It may go down in the annals as the worst episode of Lost. So what did we really learn?? Sun has a mean streak like her Daddy, and she loves Jin so much, she'd rather him be a Thug for Papa Sun than "ashamed" of his birth. Oh, and that was consistent with the Sun in season 1 flashbacks?? The one who hated her violent husband and couldn't understand why he was doing the things he was doing?

Soon, not one character on this show will have one redeeming quality left. I can't believe what TPTB have done to their characters this year. They've truly annihilated them. I don't care for most of them any more. But they are their characters. So I guess it is truly their perogative.

It was simply embarassing trying to explain the theme of this episode, and perhaps where the story is going on LOST, (is it going anywhere?) to my co-workers. "Really it's about "Other" island pregnant women dying, and a woman who needs to know when she got pregnant, and sperm count 5 times normal, and a dead guy coming back to life, and a woman who is able to pull the rug over our heroes eyes, and she's wishy-washy." :confused: They wanted to know if I accidentally was watching DOOL and not LOST.

TPTB you have truly turned LOST into a soap. But it's not even a good soap opera. I know more fans are talking about this being their last few episodes to watch ever. People are bailing on LOST now like they did after the mini-arc. I'm not sure if I'll ever watch the show live again myself.

Are they really going to turn this show into a story about women dying when they are pregnant? And all your female characters are going to go through this??? And all the men will be worried and trying to find new ways off the island to rescue the dying pregnant women. Nothing but lameness.

Kate is beyond ridiculous now. What she needs is a brain implant, not a possible pregnancy or some other medical crisis. I can't stand to watch this character any more. It's a shame. Kate had so much potential as an interesting female character at one point. Shame on you TPTB, you've truly destroyed what decency there was in Kate and any hope folks might have for her. She is simply Sawyer's sex object now.

I will not be buying S3 DVDs. This has been the season of the ridiculous and lame and I've witnessed the destruction of a once good show. I don't need to watch it happen again in my own version of a bad LOST flashback.

"We do not live in a world where there are no questions asked?"

Heh. If only that were the case.

To continue the moron theme:

Juliet breaks in to Suns tent in the middle of the night:

"Come with me and be very quiet" juliet says

Sun thinks "hmmm, its the middle of the night, juliet is with the others, I have reason not to trust her, and she wants me to follow her. Well, I wont ask her details of what she wants, who cares that there is a monster in the jungle that kills people, I wont ask Kate or Jack or anyone else to come with me, I will blindly trust this lady for no reason, and I will follow her and be selectively a moron for the next time period until the writers say I should be smart again."

Why would she possibly go alone with juliet in the middle of the night? Its so ridiculous.

Oh, I would also like to add something about the magic sperm. So is the plan to get the one remaining female cast member (Kate) pregnant as well? I mean, it seems like there's a reasonably good chance that she may have gotten pregant by Sawyer. So... seriously? Is that what women have become on this show? Even the main characters? Merely science projects? This storyline is lame. And I'm disappointed because it seems like a "biggie." Is this why they killed off Shannon, Ana Lucia, and Libby? So they wouldn't have to deal with three extra pregnant women?


Totally agree. This was my number one problem with this episode and this whole stupid plot in general. Really PTB? That's all the women are good for now? Getting them pregnant and having a dramatic pregnancy storyline where they die? So the whole joke about women who have sex on the island really isn't a joke anymore huh? Oh wait, yes it is because the plot is a joke.

And Sun is suspicious better Jack the doctor is asking questions about her prengancy, so she doesn't trust him. Yet she is willing to go alone with Juliet in the jungle in the middle of the night? Right...

It might be nice to get some female writers for the voice of the female characters on the show because they have become a total joke this season.

Hahaaaaa! I LOVED this episode, it's getting so silly it's jumping armies of sharks.

A latino woman starts to babble in *Italian* to English speaking people? Even when in a fever...Italian? And the lame bit about what she said to the patchinator and him OBVIOUSLY lying about it just to hope we will look up what she REALLY said (I believe it was that he is evil). I mean, I know there's something coming down the line for which they needed her to be Latino because originally Paulo would have been the role for it (communicating with the Portugese guys in the submarine from 23 seasons ago, I believe), but then switching to Italian just to be able to do the Patchy part where only he understands? Are TPTB seriously that kind of people that swap Spanish with Italian thinking 'it's both some kind of language from one of dem countries'? And what the HELL would a Russian officer know Italian for, actually? The relationships between both are virtually nonexistant, I'm pretty sure they don't give their soldiers lessons. Hell, next we know he speaks all 9 Belgian dialects? Ancient Greaak mayhap, he picked up speaking to four-toed peops?

THE OUTSIDE WORLD THINKS THEY ARE DEAD! Well who would have thought? 90 days of a missing plane, but I'm sure people were thinking they'd be alive and happy.

And they're trying so hard to get us to like Juliette and see her softer side, and understand she is being manipulated. Too bad she had one too many plastic surgeries and only has one singular facial expression, kind of hampers the idea.

If I remember correctly, it was ABC's talk show host Jimmy Kimmel who was interviewing Matthew Fox (Jack) when he (Kimmel) said something like "Its become such a hit show. I feel like you guys were caught off-guard & you had no idea what hit you"

He was joking. But, the way the last part of 2nd season went & the way that this season is proceeding I cannot but think that he unintentionally spoke the truth.

TPTB: We have the major arcs sorted out. Each season we plan for the minor ones.
But arent the minor ones supposed to fit in witht the major ones? Arent they supposed to be driven with what already happened?

Flashbacks as a story-telling device has lost its charm. GET RID OF THE FLASHBACKS. This is not to say that I hate FB's. TBTP just have made them irrelevant & impotent.

I was almost yawning trying to read those subtitles. Such a drag of an episode. The plot didnt advance. So it was Sun responsible for making Jin do her fathers dirty work. What for? To avoid shame. Rite. And then make a big deal in the previous seasons about Jin doing her fathers dirty work. Huh?
Jae Lee commits suicide out of shame & dishonor. Sun makes Jin become sort of a hitman to avoid him being ashamed. A job of a hitman is an honorable one? Enough of this honor & shame claptrap .

Sun trots in Jungle in the middle of nite after Juliet. Hey girls, are we forgettin there is a monster on a prowl????? Hey Sun, are you forgettin you are on a mysterious island where "others" grab hang & kill you?

Mikhail is alive. When will we get tht explanation. Or is it goin to be a oneliner "The island healed him". Thats it. As someone pointed what about Shannon Asthma & other such injuries to other Losties? Listen Mysterious Island, you practice favoritism.

The bad habit of not asking relevant questions or someone interrupting continues.
Kate interrupts Sun.
Sun doesnt ask anymore.
Parachutist lady speaks in all languages except English. Mikhail understands her.
She speaks chaste english only at the end to give us a supposed shocking ending.

Shocking ending: Arent the Dharma, Widmore, Paik strong enough to stage a fake crash? The ending might be shocking to the losties but how in the world is it suppose to shock viewers. Oooooo they might be dead. Debate on purgatory & let us slip with a loose plot.

I Love Lost. My love might have diminished, but it aint over. Thats why week after week I hope things will get better. But, last nite, when I asked myself "What if tomorrow ABC decides to scrap Lost. How would I feel?" I was shocked at what I was thinking. Strangely, I was reminded of Boone in Season 1 when he was asked by Locke how he felt when he saw (in his dream) Shannon die. I felt relieved.

(P.S. Adam Horowitz & Edward Kitsis = Bad Writer Duo)

It might be nice to get some female writers for the voice of the female characters on the show because they have become a total joke this season.

But it's not just the female characters that have become a joke this season, it's everybody. I understand TPTB wanting to make the characters more complex, but there is a fine line between a complex character and turning the character into someone that people can no longer understand or sympathize with. The characters can be complex, but at the same time, they should remain true to who they are. None of these characters have remained true to themselves this season. I feel like I'm watching a completely different show all together and it's not one that I particularly care for. If I had not have watched the first two seasons of Lost, it would be easy for me to stop watching at this point.

Mikhail is alive. When will we get tht explanation. Or is it goin to be a oneliner "The island healed him". Thats it. As someone pointed what about Shannon Asthma & other such injuries to other Losties? [B]Listen Mysterious Island, you practice favoritism.
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I agree with a lot of you wrote, but it does seem like the Mysterious Island *does*
practice favoritism. Locke is healed. Then he isn't. Then he is. Ben was fine and now
he isn't, and he's convinced it has to do with The Island. I think it is not out of the realm
of possibility that whatever mysterious power lurks on the island does not affect
everyone equally.

I definintely think that the island does practice favoritism, and that is what I think the others talk about when they say 'good person' meaning the island recongizes them as good and heals them. This if course raises a big question on why Ben got cancer....
Another thing...on the flashbacks - I think they are a cool way of telling us more about each person, but it is not necessary for them to have a FB EVERY EPISODE. They should not compromise quality for form. If a FB is not good, then take it out, you don't have to have one!!!!