So we know...but they dont..when do you think Jack and Claire will ever have the American doctor Christian conversation???

Congratulations to all those who figured this one out.

Someone from the lost-media forums did. They even have a youtube trailer of Jack/Claire sibling vid, check it out. But i guess alot of people did too.

I think this was the first theory that I got right.

Congratulations to all those who figured this one out.

I even won a bet! :biggrin:

I don't think they'll know anytime soon but I'm glad at least we do.

I LOVED the Christian/Claire scenes. John Terry is fantastic.

Yeah, I had really doubted this one, though I accepted it as a possibility.

Maybe she could give Jack some tattoo advice.

John Terry probably has had more work on Lost than Emilie De Ravin has. But of course, I am always happy to see them. I believe this plotline was planned from episode 1, and I almost wonder if Jack going to the Others to rescue Ben is a HUGELY drawn out method for the writers to make Jack the person who steals Aaron away from Claire. If Jack is Aaron's uncle, he has the motive to give him a better life. And since Jack is a doctor, giving him an Other patient was a good way to get him integrated over there.

Well, first of all, they need to be at the same place. Then someone's got to tell them. OR, they've both got to see a pix of Christian and exclaim, "DAD!" Something like that.

I'm not holding my breath. . . .

Can I just say again how much I love John Terry and Christian? He's a wonderful actor and Christian is a good man, despite his flaws. He truly loves his daughter (awwww about the singing to Claire as a baby!)...........I hope Claire realizes that one day.

I wonder if she somehow may find out through Sawyer, because spoiler pics indicate that she will be spending some time with him. I know she never found out his name, which makes it tricky, but she's smart. If they get talking and she puts 2 + 2 together..........

I love the idea of Jack/Claire as siblings; I am ready NOW for some great emotional reunion.
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John Terry probably has had more work on Lost than Emilie De Ravin has. But of course, I am always happy to see them. I believe this plotline was planned from episode 1, and I almost wonder if Jack going to the Others to rescue Ben is a HUGELY drawn out method for the writers to make Jack the person who steals Aaron away from Claire. If Jack is Aaron's uncle, he has the motive to give him a better life. And since Jack is a doctor, giving him an Other patient was a good way to get him integrated over there.

If that happened, Jack would be a kidnapper and then he could just die as far as I'm concerned. He'd be no different than Ethan - Aaron needs his mother; even if he didn't, how could he possibly have a better life with the Others? Jack is a good guy -he's seen Claire and Aaron, even though he has no knowledge of his relationship with them; how could he even think of doing that? I can even conceive of anykind of storyline where Jack would kidnap his own nephew.

Congratulations to all those who figured this one out.

True, true, congradulations to everyone who held on to their beliefs on this one. What a twist! But being she doens't even know his name I can't see how she'll ever find out. It would be so cool for her and Jack to know they are siblings.

What are the chances that two siblings that didn't even know they were related wound up on the same flight that crashes onto an island?

What are the chances that two siblings that didn't even know they were related wound up on the same flight that crashes onto an island?
Um, slim to none, I'd say. I'm still in the camp that these people were all intended to be on the flight - but that it was supposed to land, and not crash.

Jack and Claire will find out, I'm confident of it. It's too major of a plot point to be reduced to a minor cross like Sawyer having Kate's mom for a waitress. The writers have set this up for 2 1/2 seasons. They are going to do something with it.

OMFG!!! you guys with theories...are my heroes!!!! well but Claire never knew she had a brother.

John Terry probably has had more work on Lost than Emilie De Ravin has. But of course, I am always happy to see them. I believe this plotline was planned from episode 1, and I almost wonder if Jack going to the Others to rescue Ben is a HUGELY drawn out method for the writers to make Jack the person who steals Aaron away from Claire. If Jack is Aaron's uncle, he has the motive to give him a better life. And since Jack is a doctor, giving him an Other patient was a good way to get him integrated over there.

Oh, man.... that is good.... what a theory.
So freakin' creepy.
Would that make Jack the new leader of the Others?

Um, slim to none, I'd say. I'm still in the camp that these people were all intended to be on the flight - but that it was supposed to land, and not crash.

Jack and Claire will find out, I'm confident of it. It's too major of a plot point to be reduced to a minor cross like Sawyer having Kate's mom for a waitress. The writers have set this up for 2 1/2 seasons. They are going to do something with it.

I agree with both of these points. They will find out. I think one of the Others will tell Jack.
Claire knew that her father had another family, so it is not a stretch for her to think she might have half-siblings.

I definitely believe, and have always believed, that they were put on the plane for a reason. I agree that it was supposed to land, not crash.

Um, slim to none, I'd say. I'm still in the camp that these people were all intended to be on the flight - but that it was supposed to land, and not crash.

Jack and Claire will find out, I'm confident of it. It's too major of a plot point to be reduced to a minor cross like Sawyer having Kate's mom for a waitress. The writers have set this up for 2 1/2 seasons. They are going to do something with it.

For sure. I definitely think we'll see something else happen with this, maybe even this season. I've heard some people talking about maybe Juliet having something to do with it, since she's a fertility doctor and they could have taken Claire's blood when they had her. And they took Jack's blood when they had him, so it would be easy enough for the Others to figure it out. They might already know considering how much they seem to know about the survivors anyways... But yeah, I can't wait to see the scene when Jack and Claire figure it out. I'm really glad they went this way :smile:

Also, as you guys are saying, the chances of long lost siblings ending up on the same crashed plane are pretty slim... to me, it seems to be more support for the idea that the survivors were all on that plane for a reason.

Well, first of all, they need to be at the same place. Then someone's got to tell them. OR, they've both got to see a pix of Christian and exclaim, "DAD!" Something like that.

I'm not holding my breath. . . .


Don't forget that Christian's body is somewhere on the island and the vision has appeared to Jack. It could appear to both at the same time.
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Someone asked me tonite how I figured this out based on the "Christian visiting an Australian blonde lady in a pouring rain demanding to see HER with Ana Lucia waiting in the car" episode from last year and I had no answer for her.

There must have been SOMETHING there, since lots of other people figured it out too.

:hug: to Zoe and Laura for agreeing with me. I love this plotline. I don't care if people think it is too soap-operish. No soap could pull off such a long term payoff!

Jack and Claire will find out, I'm confident of it. It's too major of a plot point

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away (i.e., after Two for the Road), I thought so too.

Lately though, I've decided that interconnectedness by itself might be a major theme to the creators. I'm open to the idea that they're really hammering in how we're all brothers and sisters under the skin, two degrees of separation, yada yada. And I'm sticking with my theory that Kate is the 3rd sibling. That's a huge hammer but I can live with it. As an amateur and avid genealogist, I'm often astounded by how closely related we all are.
Sun, Jin, Hurley, and Michael as siblings would be pushing it though.

But whether Jack/Claire/Christian/Aaron are a major plot point or an allegorical device, it's good. If they're both, that's even better.

True, true, congradulations to everyone who held on to their beliefs on this one.

LOL. It's been a pleasure pointing out why it is and it should be Claire and not Cindy, Kate, or some random girl. elfdream is the one who convinced me and I think pacejunkie even had a thread about it long before TFTR aired. So that's sticking with a theory. :biggrin:

I should also mention Amanda from Lost Forum who came up with this theory after Claire's first episode aired back in season 1. :clapping:

:hug: to Zoe and Laura for agreeing with me. I love this plotline. I don't care if people think it is too soap-operish. No soap could pull off such a long term payoff!

Me three! Lost has had many a "soap" moment, some of them bad, some of them excellent. This falls into "excellent" for me.

Lately though, I've decided that interconnectedness by itself might be a major theme to the creators. I'm open to the idea that they're really hammering in how we're all brothers and sisters under the skin, two degrees of separation, yada yada.

I hope that's not true, because the possibilities opened by The Lost Experience are simply too cool not to be addressed, but since I'm satisfied with how the plotline turned out so far, I think I could deal with your version too.

But whether Jack/Claire/Christian/Aaron are a major plot point or an allegorical device, it's good. If they're both, that's even better.

I feel exactly the same.

Me and another message board user did call this connectino between Jack/Claire being brother/sister, in the episode that Jack's dad takes Anna Lucia on that trip to Australia to do some "digging around his past", and that is when he goes to visit Claire's mom in that episode.

I'm just wondering the clever way the writers have had in thier heads how they are going to come to this conclusion whilst on the island.

+ Jack knows what he's doing....he'll never become one of them, unless he is Him.

I really can't wait for the episode where Jack and Claire find out! I think it has so many possiblities! I think that this opens up some really interesting places that the show can go, and I really want to see "Uncle Jack" handle the muchkin!!!

Does anyone remember in the first season where Jack sees his dad and follows him to the cave where there is luggage and the casket he is supposed to be in. That was never addressed - were we to assume his body came out somewhere in the landing? Or... was his dad not ever in the casket because he isn't dead and he is HIM - the "brilliant one" old patchy referred to.... if Jack and Claire's dad masterminded this whole thing and brought them to the island, maybe he's there as well... (we did see him walking around leading Jack, and we do know his body isn't in the casket).....

Okay, for one, I don't think that Jack and Claire will find out their siblings. I think the creators just want us to know, let us be aware of yet another connection on the island.

However, if Jack did find out that Aaron was his nephew - let's say that Juliette is leaving and she promises a better life for Aaron then on the island - I totally see Jack taking the baby and giving it to Juliette. He knows the baby will be better off (as far as being rescued and not living on an island), despite Claire being angry and hurt (and probably freaking out, too.) :undecide:

Does anyone remember in the first season where Jack sees his dad and follows him to the cave where there is luggage and the casket he is supposed to be in. That was never addressed - were we to assume his body came out somewhere in the landing? Or... was his dad not ever in the casket because he isn't dead and he is HIM - the "brilliant one" old patchy referred to.... if Jack and Claire's dad masterminded this whole thing and brought them to the island, maybe he's there as well... (we did see him walking around leading Jack, and we do know his body isn't in the casket).....

I really like this theory!! I have been wondering about the lack of a body. The only other thought that I have had about the lack of a body and Christian showing up in the jungle is that Smokey somehow got ahold of the body and became him...and that is why the Others hold the Viking like funerals complete with setting the bodies on fire.

Uhm this is my first post. But what about this whole "Raised By Another" thing. If it's so important that Aaron cannot be raised by another, what would happen if the others took him? Do they not know about this? Or do you guys think that it was just a ploy created by the psychic. Forgive me if this has been discussed before.

...well but Claire never knew she had a brother.

But Christain did tell Claire he had another family. So she knows the possibility of a brother does exists. Too bad she never asked Christaian about his "other" family. Maybe she just didn't want to know.

What are the chances that two siblings that didn't even know they were related wound up on the same flight that crashes onto an island?

I was thinking this as well (I'm sure a lot of us are). It almost has to be that there is one common link among all the survivors, or that they were all in some kind of group predestined to go there given all the connections. With a sister and brother - it just can't be random chance.

OMFG!!! you guys with theories...are my heroes!!!! well but Claire never knew she had a brother.

But Christain did tell Claire he had another family. So she knows the possibility of a brother does exists. Too bad she never asked Christaian about his "other" family. Maybe she just didn't want to know.
It frustrated me when Claire said she didn't even know Christain's name and didn't want to know. And he did mention his other family. That would lead me to think that he had at least one other child.

I do believe that eventually Jack and Claire will discover their link as siblings. The fact that she doesn't know Christain's name might lend a bit of a monkey wrench. But what if Christain appeared on the island again to Jack...and Claire came upon them and saw him as well? Or better yet, the other way around?? Could you imagine Jack's reaction then?

Photo. Of. Christian. Among Jack's stuff. Gets seen by Claire. Jack's back by then. "Who is this?" "My father." "But he's MY father!"

It'll happen. Sooner or later.

Photo. Of. Christian. Among Jack's stuff. Gets seen by Claire. Jack's back by then. "Who is this?" "My father." "But he's MY father!"

It'll happen. Sooner or later.
i would hope it's that simple.

but this is lost, lol.

I can see it all now

Season 4.

Towards the end of a Jack-centric episode.
Jack and Claire are on the beach. Jack pulls out a picture of his father.

Claire: What are you looking at?
Jack: Oh, I'm just looking at a picture of my father. You know, I've always had trouble with him.
Claire: What do you mean?
Jack: I don't really want to go into ... he, he always discouraged me. He said things to me I couldn't handle situations. He was a problem drinker, and it always affected his work. In the end, he died, and at times I feel somewhat responsible.

Claire: I'm sorry to hear that, I can tell you I hardly knew my father. If you don't mind could you show me the picture?

Jack: Here
Hands her the photo.

Claire looks at the photo, lifts up her head with troubled eyes.
Jack: What's the matter? Claire? Claire?

The Lost logo screen comes up indicating the episode is over.

Congratulations to all those who figured this one out.

I haven't seen this episode yet (graveyard shifts suck), but honestly if you paid attention to the Season 2 DVD bonus disc it's pretty hard not to come to the conclusion these two were related. Throw in the Ana Lucia episode where we see Jack's dad arguing with a blonde-haired woman about seeing his daughter and it's a dead giveaway.

I think Ben or Juliet will tell Jack because the Others know everything about everyone on that island it seems. What a better way to get Aaron in their possession - have Jack bring her and the baby there for a 'better life.' Good thing that Jack is just faking!

I think this was the first theory that I got right.


Me too!!! You could see it coming from a mile away - back in that Ana Lucia flashback.

"Somehow, I've always known"
-Princess Leia, Return of the Jedi

Unless she sees a picture of Christian how will they ever find out that they have the same father. I mean Sawyer figured out that he talked to Jack's father in the bar just by talking with Jack, but how would Claire and Jack's conversation go in order for them to find out they are half siblings? I'd like to see that!

Oh, man.... that is good.... what a theory.
So freakin' creepy.
Would that make Jack the new leader of the Others?



I agree with both of these points. They will find out. I think one of the Others will tell Jack.
Claire knew that her father had another family, so it is not a stretch for her to think she might have half-siblings.

I definitely believe, and have always believed, that they were put on the plane for a reason. I agree that it was supposed to land, not crash.


I actually think that Jack will find out off the others, and that will give him the incentive to get back to his group of survivors...quitepossibly the only thing that will have Jack break his promise of being Bens doctor...IMO

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Me too!!! You could see it coming from a mile away - back in that Ana Lucia flashback.

I agree. It's cool that they finally confirmed it though. A scene between her and Jack where they find out they're related would be very cool though, much like the scene where Jack learns that Sawyer met his father.

Ah...vindication. Its a nice feeling. Some of us have suspected this since Season 1.

Now that its out in the open..what are they going to do about it?

Ah...vindication. Its a nice feeling. Some of us have suspected this since Season 1.

Now that its out in the open..what are they going to do about it?

What lead you to believe that in S1? The "daddy abandonment crap" that Thomas mentions to Claire?

I just love thinking back to the scene in RBA when Jack is bandaging her hands and asking her questions about the baby. And then he doesn't believe her and she storms off. It's always been a great scene to me. But you can see it almost as a sibling scene. Talking intimately and confidentially, but then ultimately ending in a fight. :rolleyes:

What lead you to believe that in S1? The "daddy abandonment crap" that Thomas mentions to Claire?

I just love thinking back to the scene in RBA when Jack is bandaging her hands and asking her questions about the baby. And then he doesn't believe her and she storms off. It's always been a great scene to me. But you can see it almost as a sibling scene. Talking intimately and confidentially, but then ultimately ending in a fight. :rolleyes:

You know I can't even remember!

There was the thing with the Americanisms in her diary but I guess those were just prop mistakes...but there was a lot more than that. I think it was Jack's flashback when he went to look for his dad in Australia and we got the impression that it was something Christian did on a regular basis and someone somewhere whose name is lost in the mists of time wondered if he had a mistress/second family in OZ and of all the people on the show the person who 'might' be the right age to be a sister to Jack would be Claire...plus the fact that her dad was absent. It just fit.

Does anyone remember in the first season where Jack sees his dad and follows him to the cave where there is luggage and the casket he is supposed to be in. That was never addressed - were we to assume his body came out somewhere in the landing?
I don't believe Christian is really alive, but another theory that has been out there is that the Others took the body to do an autopsy and/or genetic testing on it, so they could prove Claire and Jack's siblinghood, or learn more about the magic genes that make them so interested in Aaron.

However, if Jack did find out that Aaron was his nephew - let's say that Juliette is leaving and she promises a better life for Aaron then on the island - I totally see Jack taking the baby and giving it to Juliette. He knows the baby will be better off (as far as being rescued and not living on an island), despite Claire being angry and hurt (and probably freaking out, too.) :undecide:
I do think Jack will be an instrument for getting Aaron to the Others. Hopefully he will learn to love Claire as a sister, so that he will protect them - but dramatic storytelling indicates to me that there should be a massive conflict within Jack about this.

I think Ben or Juliet will tell Jack because the Others know everything about everyone on that island it seems. What a better way to get Aaron in their possession - have Jack bring her and the baby there for a 'better life.' Good thing that Jack is just faking!
Agreed. This is why I think this plot has been set up from episode 1. All along the writers new that as Claire's brother, Jack would be the instrument for getting Aaron to them.

Ah...vindication. Its a nice feeling. Some of us have suspected this since Season 1.
Wow, very impressive. I would say a huge number of people got it after TFTR, but season 1 is pretty amazing. Good job!

Here's my deal: We don't really know that Claire doesn't know Christian's name. After her saying she didn't want to know and started storming off, they kind of had a tender moment. Maybe she reconsidered. There are plenty of ways she could have found out. And if she does know, leaving us thinking that she doesn't is precisely the kind of misdirection the Lost team would use, saving the fact that she does know until the episode where she and Jack realize their connection.

Just an idea.

Just finished watching this episode, and I think I woke my roommate up when he told her he was her father. For the 10 seconds before he told her, I was almost yelling "I'm your father, Claire, I'm your father, Claire!" over and over, lol. What an intense episode!! :biggrin:

You know I can't even remember!

There was the thing with the Americanisms in her diary but I guess those were just prop mistakes...but there was a lot more than that. I think it was Jack's flashback when he went to look for his dad in Australia and we got the impression that it was something Christian did on a regular basis and someone somewhere whose name is lost in the mists of time wondered if he had a mistress/second family in OZ and of all the people on the show the person who 'might' be the right age to be a sister to Jack would be Claire...plus the fact that her dad was absent. It just fit.

Fair enough! :cool:

"Somehow, I've always known"
-Princess Leia, Return of the Jedi



That was my first thought too, especially since the producers are big STAR WARS fans. This makes me think this was planned from the beginning of the show. And what about about.......

"Claire, I'm your Father" Total Darth Vader moment!!!!!!!:biggrin:

Yeah, definitely a great moment. I'd suspected this after that whole trailer-in-the-rainstorm episode, but was surprised to see it come back! The episodes are finally kicking ***, I'm glad to see. And they'll HAVE to find out they're siblings. Otherwise, what's the point, just so WE can pat ourselves on the back? I do think The Others will be instrumental in them finding out though--there really can't be any other way. I mean, does Jack even have a photo of his dad? Does he even have a wallet anymore? Or maybe Jack and Claire will both see Smoky as Dad and have some sort of epiphany, but The Others route seems more plausible.

What are the chances that two siblings that didn't even know they were related wound up on the same flight that crashes onto an island?

Do not mistake coincidence for fate!

Uhm this is my first post. But what about this whole "Raised By Another" thing. If it's so important that Aaron cannot be raised by another, what would happen if the others took him? Do they not know about this? Or do you guys think that it was just a ploy created by the psychic. Forgive me if this has been discussed before.

Richard Malkin confessed to Eko that he was a fraud in "?", and one of the deleted scenes from that episode (included on the season 2 DVD set) cleared up the bit about Claire further. He says that a couple in LA paid him to convince a pregnant woman to give up her child to them. Something tells me that "couple" was "not quite in LA". ;)

I haven't seen this episode yet (graveyard shifts suck), but honestly if you paid attention to the Season 2 DVD bonus disc it's pretty hard not to come to the conclusion these two were related. Throw in the Ana Lucia episode where we see Jack's dad arguing with a blonde-haired woman about seeing his daughter and it's a dead giveaway.

You referring to the Easter Egg in the "Lost Connections" game? :)

You know I can't even remember!

There was the thing with the Americanisms in her diary but I guess those were just prop mistakes...but there was a lot more than that. I think it was Jack's flashback when he went to look for his dad in Australia and we got the impression that it was something Christian did on a regular basis and someone somewhere whose name is lost in the mists of time wondered if he had a mistress/second family in OZ and of all the people on the show the person who 'might' be the right age to be a sister to Jack would be Claire...plus the fact that her dad was absent. It just fit.
You're brilliant to have figured that out in Season 1. I had to have my arm twisted after TFTR, but have been a believer since then.

As to how Jack & Claire find out -- I'd kind of like to have Sawyer instrumental in it. I guess Claire probably does not have a picture of Christian given the way they parted in the flashback, but maybe Sawyer will become chatty with Claire and learn that baby Aaron's dad left, just like her dad left her, and that he was a doctor from LA, and how ironic it was that she was headed for LA....and Sawyer's wheels get turning... and we have another great moment like in Exodus where Sawyer can make this known to one of them.

Agreed. This is why I think this plot has been set up from episode 1. All along the writers new that as Claire's brother, Jack would be the instrument for getting Aaron to them.


Wow, very impressive. I would say a huge number of people got it after TFTR, but season 1 is pretty amazing. Good job!

Except that Jack was originally supposed to die in the pilot episode but the producers thought better of killing off a strong and popular character.

Except that Jack was originally supposed to die in the pilot episode but the producers thought better of killing off a strong and popular character.
Well, that's true. But, I think that was a very early change - they still had time to write the pilot the make Jack a fully developed character, right? If you disagree, will you at least give me early in season 1? :biggrin:

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Does anyone remember in the first season where Jack sees his dad and follows him to the cave where there is luggage and the casket he is supposed to be in. That was never addressed - were we to assume his body came out somewhere in the landing? Or... was his dad not ever in the casket because he isn't dead and he is HIM - the "brilliant one" old patchy referred to.... if Jack and Claire's dad masterminded this whole thing and brought them to the island, maybe he's there as well... (we did see him walking around leading Jack, and we do know his body isn't in the casket).....

I've had the creepy notion and have posted before on this that Christian Shepard ( think about that name for a minute) is alive and the * big guy/boss* on the island that we haven't seen yet.

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Does anyone remember in the first season where Jack sees his dad and follows him to the cave where there is luggage and the casket he is supposed to be in. That was never addressed - were we to assume his body came out somewhere in the landing? Or... was his dad not ever in the casket because he isn't dead and he is HIM - the "brilliant one" old patchy referred to.... if Jack and Claire's dad masterminded this whole thing and brought them to the island, maybe he's there as well... (we did see him walking around leading Jack, and we do know his body isn't in the casket).....

I've had the creepy notion and have posted before on this that Christian Shepard ( think about that name for a minute) is alive and the * big guy/boss* on the island that we haven't seen yet.

:frusty: <~ Just a lil' though. :biggrin: He's one of my favorite characters and if there's a conspiracy going on, I want him involved. BUT. Am I the only one who has a problem with him being the leader of anything? (http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showpost.php?p=1430548&postcount=5)

After this was revealed, I kept wondering how exciting it must have been for all those people who do NOT spend hours every day on this board! It might have been fun to be suprised. As for whether J&C will ever know, if the way they come to the realization is through photos ("that's my dada" "that's my dad, too!") it will be a Parent Trap moment!

Beyond that way of knowing, there's not much else left. Claire doesn't know Christian's name. Ana is dead, and so can't say "by the way, when Christian was pounding on that blond's door in Australia..." and I refuse to believe that Christian is alive and well and wandering around the island, no matter what Jack saw.

As ffor the suggestion that Kate i the third in the sibship, after that kiss between her and Jack, all I can say is EEEEWWWWWW.......

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Does anyone remember in the first season where Jack sees his dad and follows him to the cave where there is luggage and the casket he is supposed to be in. That was never addressed - were we to assume his body came out somewhere in the landing? Or... was his dad not ever in the casket because he isn't dead and he is HIM - the "brilliant one" old patchy referred to.... if Jack and Claire's dad masterminded this whole thing and brought them to the island, maybe he's there as well... (we did see him walking around leading Jack, and we do know his body isn't in the casket).....

I've had the creepy notion and have posted before on this that Christian Shepard ( think about that name for a minute) is alive and the * big guy/boss* on the island that we haven't seen yet.

I'm really starting to get frustrated. Christian Shephard isn't the leader of ANYTHING. When people on Lost die, they stay dead, TPTB have been quoted as saying so. Christian Shephard died of a heart attack early in the first season, so I don't understand why people keep saying "Christian Shephard is HIM!". Do some research, a lot of these theories have already been debunked.

Photo. Of. Christian. Among Jack's stuff. Gets seen by Claire. Jack's back by then. "Who is this?" "My father." "But he's MY father!"

It'll happen. Sooner or later.

The Others know everything about our losties. I'm sure they know that Jack and Claire have the same father and I'm sure they'll use it to their advantage. My theory- right now Jack wants off the island, but maybe Ben will tell him about Claire and Aaron to make him want to stay and protect/watch over them. It is awfully hady to have a surgeon around after all. . .

As to how Jack & Claire find out -- I'd kind of like to have Sawyer instrumental in it. I guess Claire probably does not have a picture of Christian given the way they parted in the flashback, but maybe Sawyer will become chatty with Claire and learn that baby Aaron's dad left, just like her dad left her, and that he was a doctor from LA, and how ironic it was that she was headed for LA....and Sawyer's wheels get turning... and we have another great moment like in Exodus where Sawyer can make this known to one of them.

I was just thinking the same thing about how it is too bad Claire doesn't have a picture of Christian to show Sawyer. But that is a good thought you have there: She could start telling Sawyer how her father is a doctor from LA, and so on.

I wonder how Sawyer would handle this situation. Knowing the Lost writers, they will have Jack and Claire getting smiiten with each other, and ready to get romantically involved, at the very same time Sawyer gets this shocking revelation about their common father.

I'm guessing Sawyer will get this revelation in the middle of next season, in the episode right before the winter break, and just before the LOST "ker-thunk" sound and closing credits. Then we can agonize for 12 weeks over how Sawyer will handle this situation. Heck, I am agonizing over it right now!

My theory- right now Jack wants off the island, but maybe Ben will tell him about Claire and Aaron to make him want to stay and protect/watch over them.I'm 100% on board with that.

As to how Jack & Claire find out -- I'd kind of like to have Sawyer instrumental in it. I guess Claire probably does not have a picture of Christian given the way they parted in the flashback, but maybe Sawyer will become chatty with Claire and learn that baby Aaron's dad left, just like her dad left her, and that he was a doctor from LA, and how ironic it was that she was headed for LA....and Sawyer's wheels get turning... and we have another great moment like in Exodus where Sawyer can make this known to one of them.When I first read this, I just thought oh great, Sawyer definitely needs to get yet another storyline. :rolleyes: But, it got me thinking about Christian's Australian backstory and wishing it had played out so that Sawyer was involved. Christian says he went to Australia because he couldn't tell Jack that he was sorry. So he came to see Claire, presumably to apologize to her and try to get a better relationship with at least one of his kids. He finally drinks up the courage to go to see her, gets shut out by Aunt Lindsey, then is left off at the bar where he talks to Sawyer. He was just shut out of his daughter's life, telling Sawyer how some people are supposed to suffer, and then just talks about Jack? Just a simple "neither of my kids will talk to me" would've been good enough - we don't know that Jack wasn't an only child, so it wouldn't have given it all away.

Hmm, guess I've migrated to the group that believes the connection wasn't always planned out.

I know a lot of people think Christian Sheperd is dead and I do too...however, the greatest ending to this season would be Jack and Claire and other Losties locked in a big battle for control of the radio tower or some other landmark and reaching the computer room they throw open the door and all you hear is both of them saying "DAD!" and then the Lost logo flashes and we all put our foot through the tv's.