Did Locke seem more like he did in season one tonight? Selfish. Has his own agenda? Maybe it's just me. :redface:

i agree...i do like season one lock best....but he did seem to me working on his own agenda....not sure what his relationship w/the OTHERS is........

No he seemed the complete opposite. He killed a guy without hesitation. He seems a lot more shiftier now then he did before.

I just dont get how he planned ahead so well. From the preview we can tell he blew something up but how did he know he needed the c4? like when sayid said "Are you here for Jack?" You had to know Locke had something else going on.

It does seem like the Season 1 Locke is returning, and I might have been hoping for this more than anything else from the show. I don't think Locke necessarily needs to become a villain, but it works a lot better for him to be serving only his own shady secret motives than in the rational leadership role he's played for quite a while now. Locke knew and/or planned something involving the island that none of the other characters (or audience) knew about.... that was an interesting mystery in itself. They kind of lost that by bringing Locke back down to the same level as the other survivors.

The definitive Locke moment for me is when the monster attacked in the S1 finale. Trees are getting blasted up out of the ground, people are running around in terror, Locke's getting pulled underground with Jack's grip the only thing keeping him from the abyss... and what does he do? Says, "Let me go" - not in a selfsacrificial 'save yourselves' way, but like a little kid looking up to ask their parents to go on a wild rollercoaster ride when they already know they're going to say no. That's the kind of craziness that makes Locke one of the richest characters on TV and it takes a wizard like Terry O'Quinn to pull it off without making it look exaggerated or ridiculous.

In last week's episode, we saw that 'same' Locke when he gave up watching over the violent Hostile because he couldn't resist the chess game. That expression when he looked up in response to the chess game beeping was priceless... you knew exactly what he was thinking, it was totally psycho, and it fit the character perfectly. Then in today's episode, the dynamite in the backpack (and the motives behind it) were the kind of twist we saw from S1 Locke. Hopefully, next week continues to deliver big because it certainly looks like it will.

I just dont get how he planned ahead so well. From the preview we can tell he blew something up but how did he know he needed the c4? like when sayid said "Are you here for Jack?" You had to know Locke had something else going on.

personally, i dont care, but f.y.i., some people dont watch the previews, so that bit above should be hidden.

anyway.... yes, IMO, locke has a very clear motivation. what that motivation is will most problally come out in the next ep. "man from...."

The Locke we knew and loved does seem to be back. Oh, how I hated how they wrote the Locke character during the second half of season 2.

And I couldn't be happier that Terry O'Quinn is once again portraying someone who is one of the most fascinating characters on television.

Personally, I don't like this Locke.

What has he done that has been helpful to any of the 815ers?

He got Boone killed; he blew up the Swan; he blew up the flame; and now he's killed Mikhail.

And since when is he for killing anyone? He allowed Sayid to torture Ben, but I don't believe he'd vote to have him killed.

Locke's destructive and selfish behaviour stands between us and the answers we want. Everything he does is making me angry......

Hehe. The beauty of the Locke character is that he is mysterious, driven by some inner need that we don't fully understand at this point. That, and he is portrayed by Terry O'Quinn.

Would I like to hang around Locke in the real world? No way. Do I find his character one of the most fascinating ones on TV? Yup.

I guess what I am trying to say is that there aren't many characters on the island whose actions haven't been criminal or in a morally gray area. Lost is full of flawed characters, and some of the more twisted ones are also the more interesting ones. I guess I am not one to become personally involved in a character; rather, I like to watch how the characters change and advance a plot. Unfortunately, viewing tv and movies like I do does not allow me to enjoy the shippers' delights. All I ask for is an interesting, and deep, character.

Lockesmithe, I hear ya.

I do have the tendancy of becoming emotionally attached to the characters. I've been finding myself watching Locke and yelling "Why!!!!???" at the tv.

I just have this awful feeling that because of his selfish actions, we're going to be robbed of answers. I don't really think we'll get anything good out of his conversation shown in the preview....

I think Locke is the best chance we have of getting answers, to be honest. Sayid asks a lot of questions, but he is doing so to try to find a way off the island, not to find out "what it all means." Locke is the mouthpiece of the people who want to know what is really going on on the island and what role the 815ers have to play.

And, I don't think the pushing of Patchy was out of character for Locke. Locke simply called Patchy on his bluff. Patchy knew the fence was operational and was trying to get the team to kill themselves walking right through it. Locke simply called him on his bluff.

I think Locke is the best chance we have of getting answers, to be honest. Sayid asks a lot of questions, but he is doing so to try to find a way off the island, not to find out "what it all means." Locke is the mouthpiece of the people who want to know what is really going on on the island and what role the 815ers have to play.

And, I don't think the pushing of Patchy was out of character for Locke. Locke simply called Patchy on his bluff. Patchy knew the fence was operational and was trying to get the team to kill themselves walking right through it. Locke simply called him on his bluff.

I agree completely. That's the great thing about Locke, he's passionate, and he's not afraid to do stuff - although it usually turns out bad. :biggrin:

To me he's the same as season one, but yet also not the same.

He's gone back into believing in the island, but the island has been taxing on his personality & mental state. He's quicker to kill some because of this.

I like the Locke as he is now and was in season 1.

Who's to say he's standing between us and the answers by blowing up the flame station? None of us know what he really found out in the Flame station. I'm sure he found out more than he is letting on to the rest of the crew and us. I mean really... isn't that what this show is famous for... the losties seldom sharing really important information with each other in a timely manner? How long did he keep the discovery of the swan hatch to himself? The Smokie and so on. Why did he blow up the station and fry Patchy? To keep all he knows to himself. Knowledge is power and John Locke wants the other losties kept in the dark so they don't screw up things. After all, he's the "Box Man".

[quote=Lost Illusion;1429927...That's the kind of craziness that makes Locke one of the richest characters on TV and it takes a wizard like Terry O'Quinn to pull it off without making it look exaggerated or ridiculous.
Hopefully, next week continues to deliver big because it certainly looks like it will.[/quote]

Ahh. Thanks for so eloquently expressing my exact feelings about Locke / O'Quinn.

Ever since Locke first stared at Kate with that orange peel in his mouth, I knew he was going to be one of the most exciting characters in television history.

When he bopped Sayid upside the head in Season 1, and (for a while) tried to lay the blame elsewhere, I appreciated his flaws and strengths; his self-interest. Locke is human and multifaceted. And, yes, it takes an actor with Terry O'Quinn's skill to make Locke real.