View Full Version : Locke doesn't want to leave
cowboy_dan 03-15-2007, 01:28 PM Face it, Locke is blowing up everything that would get him off the island. Swan station, Patche's place and he's even going to blow up the sub.
He doesn't want to leave, I think it's pretty simple.
So then they need to kill Locke, eveyone needs to kill Locke, if they ever want to get off the island again. If they don't he will blow it all up.
Why isn't Desmond on to this? All he can see is birds on rocks?
RamessesIX 03-15-2007, 01:45 PM I don't believe Locke blew the Swan station on purpose. But, I think you're dead on that he doesn't want to leave. What would he have to go back to? But...why doesn't he want anyone else to leave? Is it just that he wants the company? He needs people to be a messiah for?
I don't believe Locke blew the Swan station on purpose. But, I think you're dead on that he doesn't want to leave. What would he have to go back to? But...why doesn't he want anyone else to leave? Is it just that he wants the company? He needs people to be a messiah for?
You have pointed out the key flaw in the "Locke is blowing things up because he does not want to leave" theory. Assuming the losties were rescued, why couldn't he just stay behind? Of course, he would likely have at least Rose and Bernard for company, and maybe even Kate.
The one answer could be that, because he views the island as having mystical powers, he does not want anyone else from the outside world finding out about it.
RamessesIX 03-15-2007, 01:58 PM You have pointed out the key flaw in the "Locke is blowing things up because he does not want to leave" theory. Assuming the losties were rescued, why couldn't he just stay behind? Of course, he would likely have at least Rose and Bernard for company, and maybe even Kate.
The one answer could be that, because he views the island as having mystical powers, he does not want anyone else from the outside world finding out about it.
Another possibility is that he doesn't want 'civilization' arriving at the island. If the survivors were rescued en masse and published their "Incredible but True!" memoirs, how many appearances on Ellen do you think it would be before some authority showed up to investigate this island, or at least claim it for the Hilton and Marriott empires? Paraplegics and cancer patients would descend by the thousands.
If Locke feels some mystical connection with the island, or some sense of proprietorship, I can see why he might go to some lengths to keep that scenario from happening.
lostgurl 03-15-2007, 01:59 PM Locke really believes there is something powerful about that island, he even chalked Boone's death up to a sacrifice the island demanded. There has to be something major going on with Locke that we haven't seen yet. I could totally buy into Locke keeping them all there to keep the island undiscovered. It's either that or he just believes in the island so much that he's willing to keep everyone else there to serve his own agenda.
lockedup 03-15-2007, 02:03 PM If Locke had not destroyed the Swan station the island would never have been "visible" to the outside world, (as in the season 2 finale.)
I like his line in the season 2 finale
Desmond: You just killed us all. Locke: No, I just saved us all.
I think in the end, John's actions, whether he knows it or not, will be the key to the Losties survival. How long have those stations existed there? It's time to throw a monkey wrench into everything and create a new dynamic on the island. If Locke hadn't destroyed the Swan hatch they would still be down there pushing the button, and the outside world would never had seen the island on the radar. Even if he has his own agenda Locke isn't evil, anymore than Sawyer or Sayid is truly evil. Locke is bringing crucial change to the Island dynamic even if he is not always aware of why he is doing it.
I believe the island is using John as a catalyst. C'mon guys, think about how boring the show would be without a character as mysterious as Mr. Clean. At least Locke is compelling and interesting. If anything, I think Nikki and Paulo are "truly evil" and deserve to be killed off.
I believe the island is using John as a catalyst. C'mon guys, think about how boring the show would be without a character as mysterious as Mr. Clean. At least Locke is compelling and interesting. If anything, I think Nikki and Paulo are "truly evil" and deserve to be killed off.
Locke is my favorite character. I agree that he is not evil, but he must have some purpose motiviating him and I want to know what it is.
Keep in mind that, in season 1, he knocked Sayid out just as he was about to triangulate on the position of the radio tower. Just added proof that he is willing to sabotage the efforts of his fellow castaways to get rescued.
shera11 03-15-2007, 02:38 PM I have been thinking the same thing, POV, if they are rescued, why couldn't John just say, hey, "you go ahead, I'm staying". I know blowing things up makes for good tv, but if he wants to stay, he should just stay.
iowalost815 03-15-2007, 02:48 PM . Even if he has his own agenda Locke isn't evil,
This is somewhat OT for this thread. But I was flirting with the idea that Ecko failed in his island mission. After visiting the Pearl station w/Locke, he decided he had to keep pressing the button, and Locke decided it was worthless to do so. We now know there was a reason to keep pressing the button.
Hatch blows.
Then the smoke monster visited Ecko briefly [when Ecko went to seek solace with his brother''s plane], but went away when I think Locke showed up.
The smoke monster kills Ecko after Locke et al visit the Pearl Station.
Locke said he saw light in the Smoke Monstor. Makes me wonder what the "island" has in store for Locke's mission.
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