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lost12
03-22-2007, 05:46 AM
What would John be doing if he were Ben, since not "putting in the fridge"?:confused:

LauraA
03-22-2007, 05:56 AM
John would be hunting it, cleaning it, cooking it over an open fire, and if there were leftovers, he certainly wouldn't have a fridge to store it in. Locke is a hunter; he is one with the island. He gets it. He doesn't think Ben gets it, because he is soft, has electricity, isn't hunting for his food. Hence, Ben hasn't been healed by the island, but Locke has.

atom
03-22-2007, 09:37 AM
I don't think that hunting and living raw is what makes you get the island. Locke wasn't healed because he did any of that, he was healed from the beginning.

piscescat
03-22-2007, 10:23 AM
Maybe it was more about living with purpose, not just comfortable with electricity and available food.

workingmom
03-22-2007, 11:58 AM
John would be hunting it, cleaning it, cooking it over an open fire, and if there were leftovers, he certainly wouldn't have a fridge to store it in. Locke is a hunter; he is one with the island. He gets it. He doesn't think Ben gets it, because he is soft, has electricity, isn't hunting for his food. Hence, Ben hasn't been healed by the island, but Locke has.
I see Locke's point which was Locke is a self-proclaimed Jungle Guru who communes with the island rather than shape a community on it that's like any given suburb on the mainland. But Locke forgets that he himself was raiding the fridge in the hatch, doing dishes, and listening to obscure 70's records for most of Season 2.

penyours
03-22-2007, 03:55 PM
I see Locke's point which was Locke is a self-proclaimed Jungle Guru who communes with the island rather than shape a community on it that's like any given suburb on the mainland. But Locke forgets that he himself was raiding the fridge in the hatch, doing dishes, and listening to obscure 70's records for most of Season 2.

oh touche, it's quite true.

mikey_mike
03-22-2007, 04:09 PM
cool thoughts. I kinda think that John's karma with the island is all about developing an active relationship with the island. Additionally, John was a humble man who lived quietly. He had trauma brought about by the bad actions of others. He was made to suffer but he accepted his quiet lifestyle as best he could. He lived without a need for avenging the bad things in his life. Case in point, he found his father and instead of plotting against his father, he worked towards protecting others from his father's action. As a result, perhaps Locke's father is on the island to truly test his resovle towards goodness. If he fails the test perhaps he too will end up back in the wheelchair.

Ben, on the other hand is a manipulator. He leads with lies not with integrity. And perhaps that is why the island does not heal him.

sttct
03-22-2007, 04:11 PM
Yeah but didn't Locke loose his ability to walk when he was doing most of that?

RufusFirefly
03-22-2007, 04:55 PM
Clearly Locke is affiliating himself at least philosophically with the other inhabitants of the island -- the "hillbilly Others."

Not sure if he even knows they exist, though, but it's a hint as to what they're about I think.

ozieozwall
03-22-2007, 06:27 PM
My thought here is Locke is pissed off that the others are living a regular lifestyle, while the lostie's are living on a beach. If I was stranded on a beach and then found some other people living a regular life and found out they knew about my situatuin and did nothing ot help me. My rath would have no limits.