The whole throwing the spider to paralyze him so she can steal the diamonds seemed a little ridiculous, especially with the male spiders hurrying over and biting her too.

Is the reason they had her on that tv show Expose because they were sort of making a joke about the plot of this episode? Know what i mean?

(i did like the episode, just saying)

Definitely. Their story was itself a parody of a parody. It was all one big campy joke, but I hardly consider that worth all the set up and screentime those two got.

I think that you are right. Maybe Darlton was trying to prove a point to the ABC executives, that this will be the kind of show we will all be stuck with if ABC refuses to give them an end point and forces them to stretch out their originally intended timeline just to keep the show on the air longer.

It felt a lot like Desperate Housewives. :rolleyes:

Was it really done as a joke? OR an excuse for a disguised clip show?

Yeah I dont get it...The Rose & Bernard story was done really well and I love that episode, the other 48 days was amazing, the desmond episodes are my favorite...why was this one like this?

hurley mentioned something about
a forth season reveal on expose
that could be a reveal about the series.

hmmm! something to think about.

I think that you are right. Maybe Darlton was trying to prove a point to the ABC executives, that this will be the kind of show we will all be stuck with if ABC refuses to give them an end point and forces them to stretch out their originally intended timeline just to keep the show on the air longer.

It felt a lot like Desperate Housewives. :rolleyes:

Then quit watching Lost, I hear Grey's Anatomy is pretty stimulating. Well it's community doesn't have as much whiners at least.

I thought the opening scene, with the campy show-fakeout was still in bad taste despite its "joke campiness".

Then quit watching Lost, I hear Grey's Anatomy is pretty stimulating. Well it's community doesn't have as much whiners at least.

relax...we're just discussing it. i know lost fans can be touchy.

Admiral Erik Pressman: I agree.

Definitely. Their story was itself a parody of a parody. It was all one big campy joke, but I hardly consider that worth all the set up and screentime those two got.

I don't get you. When I watched the episode, I thought you'd be doing one-handed backflips. Charlie stepped up and was a man, and both of the characters you despised died in a horrifying way.

The whole throwing the spider to paralyze him so she can steal the diamonds seemed a little ridiculous, especially with the male spiders hurrying over and biting her too.

Is the reason they had her on that tv show Expose because they were sort of making a joke about the plot of this episode? Know what i mean?

(i did like the episode, just saying)

Makes me wonder if This was their "wish fulfillment"... Nikki wanted to be on that show so badly, so maybe their life became just like one of the episodes. They even died in a way that "Alias" *cough cough* I mean "Expose" would have killed someone.

Very good point Mark.

I think the point is that they got what they deserved and that karma still applies on the island.

Then quit watching Lost, I hear Grey's Anatomy is pretty stimulating. Well it's community doesn't have as much whiners at least.

Rudeness like this doesn't play here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion without someone telling them to not watch the show...if you have nothing to add to the discussion then please move on...

So if this episode (Expose) is a parody of Lost, my question is who will turn out to be Cobra? The seemingly good guy(leader) who turns out to be the true bad guy and betrays those who work for him.

So if this episode (Expose) is a parody of Lost, my question is who will turn out to be Cobra? The seemingly good guy(leader) who turns out to be the true bad guy and betrays those who work for him.

I think you just described Ben, did you not?

The epi. was a loose parody of "Expose" (the show within the show) from the get-go, only without the jiggle/high cheese factor. It was intentionally tongue-in-cheek, and managed (literally) to kill two birds with one stone, as well as adding a very Lostian macabre twist in the end. Maybe not the greatest epi in terms of character development, but that's obviously a matter of opinion.

I think you just described Ben, did you not?

The epi. was a loose parody of "Expose" (the show within the show) from the get-go, only without the jiggle/high cheese factor. It was intentionally tongue-in-cheek, and managed (literally) to kill two birds with one stone, as well as adding a very Lostian macabre twist in the end. Maybe not the greatest epi in terms of character development, but that's obviously a matter of opinion.

I dunno. I seem to recall being absolutely mesmerized as Nikki bounced across the beach toward Artz.

I was thinking maybe on of the 815'ers. I hope not.

I dunno. I seem to recall being absolutely mesmerized as Nikki bounced across the beach toward Artz.

Exactly what I was about to say! :lol:
Arzt was also pretty mesmerized by that red bikini while she was asking him about "trajectories n stuff" .... ;)

Craw, I've been thinking about this...a lot of the reviews (ew, tvguide, eonline) of "Expose" have picked up on the good guy being revealed as the bad guy in the fourth season, and wondering whether it's a clue as to the future of "Lost." So I know what you're talking about.

I would be really disappointed in this, though. Did anyone see the movie "Reindeer Games" with Ben Affleck & Charlize Theron? For the entire first half of the movie you think Charlize is a "good guy" who has befriended Affleck, and then turns out she's not. Which is fine, except that she went out of her way to save Affleck from the other bad guy (Gary Sinise) several times. It wasn't a clever plot twist, because the only people it was designed to fool are the audience. It was a cheap out for the writers.

In order for this to be a real plot line on Lost, if one of the 815ers turns out to be Jacob (or another Big Bad), it would have to be someone who we have NOT seen in a one-on-one situation with The Others where that character's interaction precludes them from faking the tension. If that criteria is not met, then it becomes a cheap out, just like in "Reindeer Games." So who does that rule out? To my mind, anyone who has been physically or mentally abused by The Others. That means the "Cobra" can NOT be:
Jack
Kate
Sawyer
Locke
Charlie (no, we didn't SEE him get strung up, but he was clinically dead there for a bit, and was technically lost in the jungle. A high-stakes ruse, to be sure)
Michael (if the rumors of his return in season 4 are true)

Also, by nature of certain characters' flashbacks and the circumstances around them landing on the island, I think we can exclude the following:
Hurley
Desmond
Claire

That leaves...Sayid, Jin & Sun. Sayid I wouldn't buy. Same for Jin. And if we go back and watch Sun in season 1, I don't believe that either. In fact, why would the "Cobra" have been on the plane and risked his/her life in the plane crash in the first place?

My point is this: I hope the theories are NOT true. Yes, it's an intriguing plot twist, but it wouldn't make any sense in a way that can be satisfactorily explained. "Lost" is cool enough without creating twists for the sake of twists.

Craw, I've been thinking about this...a lot of the reviews (ew, tvguide, eonline) of "Expose" have picked up on the good guy being revealed as the bad guy in the fourth season, and wondering whether it's a clue as to the future of "Lost." So I know what you're talking about.

I would be really disappointed in this, though. Did anyone see the movie "Reindeer Games" with Ben Affleck & Charlize Theron? For the entire first half of the movie you think Charlize is a "good guy" who has befriended Affleck, and then turns out she's not. Which is fine, except that she went out of her way to save Affleck from the other bad guy (Gary Sinise) several times. It wasn't a clever plot twist, because the only people it was designed to fool are the audience. It was a cheap out for the writers.

In order for this to be a real plot line on Lost, if one of the 815ers turns out to be Jacob (or another Big Bad), it would have to be someone who we have NOT seen in a one-on-one situation with The Others where that character's interaction precludes them from faking the tension. If that criteria is not met, then it becomes a cheap out, just like in "Reindeer Games." So who does that rule out? To my mind, anyone who has been physically or mentally abused by The Others. That means the "Cobra" can NOT be:
Jack
Kate
Sawyer
Locke
Charlie (no, we didn't SEE him get strung up, but he was clinically dead there for a bit, and was technically lost in the jungle. A high-stakes ruse, to be sure)
Michael (if the rumors of his return in season 4 are true)

Also, by nature of certain characters' flashbacks and the circumstances around them landing on the island, I think we can exclude the following:
Hurley
Desmond
Claire

That leaves...Sayid, Jin & Sun. Sayid I wouldn't buy. Same for Jin. And if we go back and watch Sun in season 1, I don't believe that either. In fact, why would the "Cobra" have been on the plane and risked his/her life in the plane crash in the first place?

My point is this: I hope the theories are NOT true. Yes, it's an intriguing plot twist, but it wouldn't make any sense in a way that can be satisfactorily explained. "Lost" is cool enough without creating twists for the sake of twists.

So if this is true is this the " game changer" everyone is talking about? If so it looks like alot of people missed it.

I dunno. I seem to recall being absolutely mesmerized as Nikki bounced across the beach toward Artz.

Okay, admittedly there was a little Nikki jiggle factor there. And I guess one could argue that the whole gotta-get-the-diamonds subplot was pretty cheesy. But nothing could outcheese seeing Billy Dee in that pimp daddy outfit!

So the smoke monster is Bille Dee Williams? Sweet....

Definitely. Their story was itself a parody of a parody. It was all one big campy joke, but I hardly consider that worth all the set up and screentime those two got.
I totally agree.

In order for this to be a real plot line on Lost, if one of the 815ers turns out to be Jacob (or another Big Bad), it would have to be someone who we have NOT seen in a one-on-one situation with The Others where that character's interaction precludes them from faking the tension. If that criteria is not met, then it becomes a cheap out, just like in "Reindeer Games." My point is this: I hope the theories are NOT true. Yes, it's an intriguing plot twist, but it wouldn't make any sense in a way that can be satisfactorily explained. "Lost" is cool enough without creating twists for the sake of twists.

I disagree. If there is something funky going on with time, one of the Losties could be Jacob and not yet know he is Jacob, if that makes sense. Then the tension wouldn't be faked.

looks like people are catching on to the idea that expose may be more than filler. A lot of threads about the big Cobra reveal.

looks like people are catching on to the idea that expose may be more than filler. A lot of threads about the big Cobra reveal.
Something like Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back, if you think about it.